Need help getting to manastone camp- anyone going down or able to help?

[Ataria]

I am wanting to get to the manastone camp. After going to wrong side, made and calmed my way throughout UGuk. A knowledgeable monk told me I needed to get to LGuk Live side instead of dead side.

So, made it there. Tried calming my way down llooking at wiki on LGuk Live side form #A on map, and something saw me that perhaps I did calm. I DAd and ran back to the zone and zoned into UGuk. Then on the other side, they all attacked me there. Is that supposed to happen? I thought once you zoned, you zoned. I know on the other side usually there is 1 pather. Crazy xp loss in 36. I should have maybe waited till 37, but the longer I wait, the longer that list gets.

Anyway, I need help with invis and escort (so I can make it there in one piece), or a partner who wants to work the way down. Will tip of course! Let me know your price. Thanks :)

PS The guy who is position #1 told me he has been there since Sunday. Yes, im insane, but wanna at least try and see how long I can last!

[WaffleztheAndal]

Helping you to participate in this camp would legitimately leave me with a guilty conscience.

[Ataria]

lol :) I can understand that!






Please :-) Though I am currently assessing my own sanity.

[Crovax]

I recommend asking for an invis from a local caster.

[Modwolf]

Keep us posted on your journey into the rabbit hole.

[turbosilk]

I am wanting to get to the manastone camp. After going to wrong side, made and calmed my way throughout UGuk. A knowledgeable monk told me I needed to get to LGuk Live side instead of dead side.

So, made it there. Tried calming my way down llooking at wiki on LGuk Live side form #A on map, and something saw me that perhaps I did calm. I DAd and ran back to the zone and zoned into UGuk. Then on the other side, they all attacked me there. Is that supposed to happen? I thought once you zoned, you zoned. I know on the other side usually there is 1 pather. Crazy xp loss in 36. I should have maybe waited till 37, but the longer I wait, the longer that list gets.

Anyway, I need help with invis and escort (so I can make it there in one piece), or a partner who wants to work the way down. Will tip of course! Let me know your price. Thanks :)

PS The guy who is position #1 told me he has been there since Sunday. Yes, im insane, but wanna at least try and see how long I can last!

And you believed him that he's been there since Sunday?

[Ataria]

I did!

[Ataria]

I recommend asking for an invis from a local caster.

Agreed, so far no replies. Will continue to keep trying that however, unless someone here is able to.

[Videri]

Tried calming my way down llooking at wiki on LGuk Live side form #A on map, and something saw me that perhaps I did calm. I DAd and ran back to the zone and zoned into UGuk. Then on the other side, they all attacked me there. Is that supposed to happen? I thought once you zoned, you zoned. I know on the other side usually there is 1 pather.

So, it certainly wasn't the same mobs from LGuk that attacked you in UGuk. You're right that mobs cannot cross zone lines. It was probably a train someone else had just zoned off.

It sounds like you're a cleric. I think bumming an invis is the right tactic. If you kill the 1 undead frog at Live Side ent, then get an invis, you can run invis all the way to EE camp. I recommend having the map open, and if you can't, print it out like it's 1999.

Good luck.

[Ataria]

So, it certainly wasn't the same mobs from LGuk that attacked you in UGuk. You're right that mobs cannot cross zone lines. It was probably a train someone else had just zoned off.

It sounds like you're a cleric. I think bumming an invis is the right tactic. If you kill the 1 undead frog at Live Side ent, then get an invis, you can run invis all the way to EE camp. I recommend having the map open, and if you can't, print it out like it's 1999.

Good luck.

Could be there was a train. Yes, I am a cleric :)

As for position, I am currently on Live Side at #A on wiki, I believe this is the right spot, and I have to get to #8, right?

I am /ooc'ing every so often for an invis. No bites yet. I have one druid will help but she/he is #4 at guise camp and cant leave. So far thus it seems everyone is on a list somewhere and cannot leave, or possibly in an xp group. but I am not giving up! :)

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Once you do this there is no turning back, OP. Please reconsider!

[Albane]

While the item is useful, this isn't a PvP server where having that extra mana is going to win a fight for you. All Raid content in this game is trivialized with so much information and raids having 50+ people there, you won't need the stone.

Also, it will be around for months to come. The list will be small for the dedicated in the months to come.

[Ataria]

Made it. Not sure how to edit first post.

So, here I am following the sweetest little enchanter gnome. BTW, did I ever say how adorable gnomes are? Anyway, im following her little tiny feet for dear life, as I never ever been Live Side before, not breathing, following verbatim each little footstep, and I all of a sudden this huge minotaur appears engulfing my screen as I run through, think i had a mini heart attack! hah!

I am #10 on the list as of 9:55 East, with I dunno how many hours I spent at the zone seeking invis. But I am happy, I am super positive, and ready for manastone showers! Oh, and i'm most likely delusional too.

Here's to hoping and becoming zombified!

[korzax]

It drops about every 10 hours, so you have to wait around 100 hours to get one. good luck.

[Ataria]

So about 4 days... Doing the math sure does put it into perspective! lol but then I am not sure what sounds better, 100 hours or 4 days.

[zillabunny]

How is it going?

[Ataria]

How is it going?

Well... the first half, I died when the server went down or whatnot, the eye popped, attacked me, then I am disconnected. I was originally lvl 36, so the death when trying to calm thru live side, plus the death when the server went ld, Lost lvl ><. Coupled with the fact I think there's more of an xp loss in 36.. could be wrong. If so double whammy.

Heartache over one guy who was #4, missed an afk check, and he said he only has until saturday off, so he left, completely bummed.

I am petrified of missing an afk check or an ld, but other than that, golden so far!

Since being here, there have been 4 names, 1 with a stone.

[mcoy]

XP loss is based off of total xp required for previous level, so since 35 is a hell, yes you lose "more" when you die at 36.

Buy a cloudy potion or camp https://wiki.project1999.com/Groi_Gutblade for a couple Ring of Shadows and keep 1 in reserve for recharging the others.

Alternatively get 39 and the ability to 50% rez may make you more desirable to have around the camp, and thus someone may be more likely to escort you.

It's sad, but with the state of things as they currently are it's unlikely people would be willing to jeopardize their position to help someone else.

-Mcoy

[Chocolope]

I am #10 on the list as of 9:55 East

big oof

[Modwolf]

How is that line looking? You gonna go sleep and come back now that you are there? Gonna take every ounce from the times posted here.

[zillabunny]

I would like some updates please

[korzax]

Updates please.

[Ataria]

I am now #5, we have not had one stone yet since that first, its been about 21 hours isnce last stone drop i think. I moved from #10 to #5 due to 1 drop, and the rest failed checks/LDs etc. I think there is now 6 on the list.

I am fortunate in that I had just woken up after a long sleep when I came down here- I had been waiting for a time where I had a good quality sleep and a long one, so far doing okay. I have always been one to stay up for super long periods despite having the gene for narcolepsy.

So far from what people have said in group there has been no drops back to back and it may just be a solid bet of 10 hours of placement on list. Which kind of takes the "hope" aspect out, like "hmm maybe it will drop sooner". Which is kind of a bummer.

I am eating very healthy and not as much, I have my meals all packed in the fridge (insane)- lots of berries, sprouts etc. Things that wont make me tired. I am drinking matcha tea. Got my Lion's Mane and Reservatrol and other little supplements. I have an egg timer I set after each afk check for 6 mins. It has been a godsend with the blasting bell.

I could see myself taking 7 min naps between those, we shall see.

I think the worst part is seeing the agonizing missed checks from people and how upset they are, despite being well and present for the most part.

[bridgetroll]

good god what is this

[Videri]

https://i.imgur.com/2MleLSg.jpg

[Ataria]

I'm not normal. perhaps slightly neurotic.

[entruil]

following her little tiny feet for dear life, as I never ever been Live Side before, not breathing, following verbatim each little footstep, and I all of a sudden this huge minotaur appears engulfing my screen as I run through, think i had a mini heart attack! hah!

classic! server is a success

[ZiggyTheMuss]

I'm not normal. perhaps slightly neurotic.

You somehow sound a lot more normal than the average manastone camper that has popped up on the forums here. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you find it worth it!

[zillabunny]

Update?

[Ataria]

Update?

No manastone yet. About 26 hours since last drop. #4 on list. Sadly, another missed an afk check. He fell asleep- has happened to him a few times previously he said ><

[Grimstrike]

No manastone yet. About 26 hours since last drop. #4 on list. Sadly, another missed an afk check. He fell asleep- has happened to him a few times previously he said ><

You have been sitting there for 26 hours straight with others in front of you that have been online longer?

[Ataria]

You have been sitting there for 26 hours straight with others in front of you that have been online longer?

Correct. I was at #10 about 26 hours ago. I arrived shortly after it dropped. That was the only one in my time here that dropped. They have all been on longer, some of them a few days.

[Larken]

I am wanting to get to the manastone camp. After going to wrong side, made and calmed my way throughout UGuk. A knowledgeable monk told me I needed to get to LGuk Live side instead of dead side.

So, made it there. Tried calming my way down llooking at wiki on LGuk Live side form #A on map, and something saw me that perhaps I did calm. I DAd and ran back to the zone and zoned into UGuk. Then on the other side, they all attacked me there. Is that supposed to happen? I thought once you zoned, you zoned. I know on the other side usually there is 1 pather. Crazy xp loss in 36. I should have maybe waited till 37, but the longer I wait, the longer that list gets.

Anyway, I need help with invis and escort (so I can make it there in one piece), or a partner who wants to work the way down. Will tip of course! Let me know your price. Thanks :)

PS The guy who is position #1 told me he has been there since Sunday. Yes, im insane, but wanna at least try and see how long I can last!

Kudos to you for your determination, it's a good quality to have.

On another note. I know everyone here "hates" pvp. But as much as I see everyone complain about lists and horrible long camps. Would PVP be so much worse than current solution to these legacy items? Really?

[Ataria]

I have yet to try the PVP server here. Funny you say that. Just saw DAOC is going to be f2p in the Off Topic section. I played the PVP server (Mordred). I also played on the PVP server in EQ2 for many years, oh how I loved pvp there- and the battlegrounds!!! For some reason, EQ always came across to me as a blue (non pvp) not sure why! But, I haven't tried it. One of these days.. Maybe if there is a bit more of a pop there.

[unleashedd]

oh man that is some commitment. gonna be goin thru this on my CLR hopefully soon, but i dont plan to list unless im near the top - cant possibly stay at it for longer than 10 hours or so :(

[Larken]

I have yet to try the PVP server here. Funny you say that. Just saw DAOC is going to be f2p in the Off Topic section. I played the PVP server (Mordred). I also played on the PVP server in EQ2 for many years, oh how I loved pvp there- and the battlegrounds!!! For some reason, EQ always came across to me as a blue (non pvp) not sure why! But, I haven't tried it. One of these days.. Maybe if there is a bit more of a pop there.

Yeah, pvp gives a game more meaning and depth.
P99 staff have alluded to opening up a fresh pvp server in the near future. I think it will be a blast with triple digit population for sure.

[Videri]

You have been sitting there for 26 hours straight with others in front of you that have been online longer?

Uh, I have a friend who has been on the list for 50 hours now. He has moved 6 list spaces forward. Mind you, advancing a list space is more likely due to someone dropping out than a manastone dropping.

Some people have expressed disbelief about people camping it for 26 hours, but multi-day manastone sessions are now the norm.

And by the way, I logged into said friend's character for 2 hours earlier tonight so he could take a nap. He actually woke up before our agreed time, poor guy.

[Ataria]

oh man that is some commitment. gonna be goin thru this on my CLR hopefully soon, but i dont plan to list unless im near the top - cant possibly stay at it for longer than 10 hours or so :(

I wish I had gone right when I turned 35, I think the list was like 20 hours avg. But I wasn't feeling my best, and I had it in my mind I really wanted to get the paw quest done.

What was I thinking? (or not thinking). Oh well, my paw gets to be with me throughout this insanity.. I may start talking to it like its my voodoo doll or something...

[Ataria]

Uh, I have a friend who has been on the list for 50 hours now. He has moved 6 list spaces forward. Mind you, advancing a list space is more likely due to someone dropping out than a manastone dropping.

Some people have expressed disbelief about people camping it for 26 hours, but multi-day manastone sessions are now the norm.

And by the way, I logged into said friend's character for 2 hours earlier tonight so he could take a nap. He actually woke up before our agreed time, poor guy.

Same, moved from 10 to (now) 4, only one due to a drop, which was the only drop and now 26.25 hours ago and the rest to those falling asleep/missed AFK's etc.

It is gut wrenching when they realize they fell asleep or missed a check after so long.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Anyone ever read The Long Walk by stephen king?

[Ataria]

Anyone ever read The Long Walk by stephen king?

Not yet, but for some reason it sounds suiting. I have read a few things of his, including, "On Writing."

[DMN]

Anyone ever read The Long Walk by stephen king?

Maybe 'Walk' from Pantera.

[Sebekkha]

Just checking in to see if Ataria is still alive

[bubur]

If someone dies doing this, is there a chance the whole project gets shut down?

Maybe I'd be okay with increasing the drop rate a tad after all...

[Tethler]

Will video games claim another victim (https://www.thegamer.com/15-people-who-have-died-playing-video-games/)?? A manastone isn't worth your health.

[Ataria]

Still alive.

Think I fell asleep and missed some checks, but luckily, no one was behind me. But gave me a lil bit of refresh.

We had 2 drops within an hour or two of each other. Im #2. I believe I will make it.

List is down to 3, shortest I seen it. Have seen a few people come and go after being there a couple of hours. Which is nice, new company is nice.

[Videri]

Able to kill the mobs with that few? I notice it was triple cleric, which should be great against a wizard mob, as long as at least 2 are not afk...

[Ataria]

It is rough. Will be nice if someone else comes. Had a few close calls.

[Sebekkha]

Glad to hear, Antaria. I don't play green/teal but am intrigued, yet horrified of the efforts people are putting in for pixels, as a nurse, ive been involved in the care of a young man who had a massive pulmonary embolism due to excessive gaming, it's very real.

Please, stay safe and take breaks, even if it's just walking on the spot

[Ataria]

Thank you, much appreciated.

Actually just got up from making some matcha tea, then picked up all the toys my little 4-legged darling dragged out all over. Felt good to stretch the calves.

I have a bag of granny smith apples next to me, lots of water.. #2 is telling me how careful I really must be now.

[Solist]

https://imgur.com/wIw9bJM

I'm over 110 hours at this god damned camp in 6days, over two stints.

This shit destroys your body and brain. I slept for 12 hours, stayed up for 6 hours then slept for 17 hours straight after the first failure (circa 52 hours in, an afk check box didnt pop so i failed, or it popped somewhere off screen etc).

57 Hours in at the moment and I've had a tiny little 3hr nap while a friend nuked shit and clicked boxes for me as I was incapable of even making a cup of coffee I was that fucked, smashed a mug in kitchen.

Sitting in this chair for last 34 or so hours clicking a box is just....fucked.

Hope you get yours asap after me Etaria.

[Danne]

Sounds like you need to give it a little bit more effort, Solist.

[zillabunny]

This is so crazy

[stakka]

That is insanity

People potentially sacrificing days, weeks, months, or years off their life for a manastone on an emulated server.

Its almost anxiety inducing.

[solleks]

the only thing unemployed people are willing to do with any ambition is sit and wait for free stuff

[yeetngreet]

I camped 10 hours for a fabled frenzy sash back when I was like 16. Thank you for hearing my story

[korzax]

Welfare queens

[Purplefluffy]

https://imgur.com/wIw9bJM

I'm over 110 hours at this god damned camp in 6days, over two stints.

This shit destroys your body and brain. I slept for 12 hours, stayed up for 6 hours then slept for 17 hours straight after the first failure (circa 52 hours in, an afk check box didnt pop so i failed, or it popped somewhere off screen etc).

57 Hours in at the moment and I've had a tiny little 3hr nap while a friend nuked shit and clicked boxes for me as I was incapable of even making a cup of coffee I was that fucked, smashed a mug in kitchen.

Sitting in this chair for last 34 or so hours clicking a box is just....fucked.

Hope you get yours asap after me Etaria.

It really isn't that important.

[slayer69]

Buy cloudy potions... invis in a bottle for 10p!

I’m guessing you’re a cleric given DA. So, you have ivu, just buy 4 or 5 cloudy potions... they sent in Kaladim if you’re a dwarf. I believe I’ve seen in Freeport as well.

[Ataria]

Success, I rec'd my manastone this evening.

Everyone was great and worked together, well except one cleric who refused to in order to save his frog faction.. so the end tail of it was difficult since he was in #2 spot and refused to help. We had people coming in and out, so that was helpful, and then the druid (he toggled between 3 and 4) had a friend come, so spawn to spawn I did not know if we would have enough. Thanks to all of those before and after me.

All in all, I went from #10 to #1 spot in about 2 days and 22 hours. In that time, was about 5 stones, first one being shortly after I arrives, and ending with my drop. The rest of the spots were due to missed afk checks etc. I kept track of every single spawn and PH and time- maybe post that later for those who wanna play around with numbers if anyone is interested.

Edit: PS: Currently only 2 on list I think, the cleric and the druid. So this is a very good time go get there if you want one. Also last time there was a long period between drops, we had a few drops. I can't say the cleric will help, but the druid will.

[baakss]

Everyone was great and worked together, well except one cleric who refused to in order to save his frog faction.. so the end tail of it was difficult since he was in #2 spot and refused to help. We had people coming in and out, so that was helpful, and then the druid (he toggled between 3 and 4) had a friend come, so spawn to spawn I did not know if we would have enough. Thanks to all of those before and after me.

Glimrock? Yah that guy is super selfish. Word is that he's at the #1 spot right now, and he's still refusing to touch the mob to "preserve his faction" lol.

Honestly, I think he should be petitioned, GM should watch for a couple cycles, and then GM should drag him away from the camp to pull him out of the list.

[Ataria]

Much agreed, yes it was him. I felt bad and let him leach until the last few hours, group members were so fed up with him. So I finally kicked him tonight. I think i kept him in there thinking that when he got to #2 he would help, and I was too tired to deal. But, even in #2 he would not help. The druid said, what if I refuse to help you? And he said, well I can't kill it by myself. I do not understand his logic, but yes, pure selfishness. His inaction did not look favorably upon him.

Not sure much can be done, it's the way it was designed and working as intended. However after experiencing this kind of camp and list, I would prefer if the list members needed to be participants. Not sure how it could be implemented.

[jacob54311]

Much agreed, yes it was him. I felt bad and let him leach until the last few hours, group members were so fed up with him. So I finally kicked him tonight. I think i kept him in there thinking that when he got to #2 he would help, and I was too tired to deal. But, even in #2 he would not help. The druid said, what if I refuse to help you? And he said, well I can't kill it by myself. I do not understand his logic, but yes, pure selfishness. His inaction did not look favorably upon him, and thus his guild he represents.

Not sure much can be done, it's the way it was designed and working as intended. However after experiencing this kind of camp and list, I do feel the list members need to be participants. Not sure how it could be implemented, but seems to be an issue.

That's just pure sociopathy right there, it sounds like. Total inability to see things from other peoples' point of view.

[WaffleztheAndal]

So do you have to shit in less than 6 minutes to avoid missing an afk check at this camp? I heard the afk check can be as short as 6 minute intervals.

[Ataria]

So do you have to shit in less than 6 minutes to avoid missing an afk check at this camp? I heard the afk check can be as short as 6 minute intervals.

yeah, brand new pack of poopsocks each time.

Kidding.

No, you just need to press the button before the next one pops which is 6-12 mins. I had a timer set for 8 mins. Some had their timer set for 10.

Clicking the button not a big deal. The psychological duress of did I get it in time? Did I miss it? Constantly typing /list was the anxiety catalyst.

[GinnasP99]

GM should watch for a couple cycles, and then GM should drag him away from the camp to pull him out of the list.

Preferably the moment EE pops

[Videri]

Success, I rec'd my manastone this evening.

Congratulations. I'm glad you made it through.

All in all, I went from #10 to #1 spot in about 2 days and 22 hours. In that time, was about 5 stones, first one being shortly after I arrives, and ending with my drop. The rest of the spots were due to missed afk checks etc.

So you were there 70 hours total. And you say during those 70 hours, 5 manastones dropped; so during that segment of time, it was an average of 14 hours per stone. That sounds pretty standard from what I've read and seen.

[Videri]

Everyone was great and worked together, well except one cleric who refused to in order to save his frog faction.. so the end tail of it was difficult since he was in #2 spot and refused to help.

This guy was willing to risk his chance at a manastone to preserve live frog faction? That seems like a wacky prioritization.

In fact, it's so unreasonable it makes me suspicious. Is there another reason this guy didn't want to participate in fights or even become KOS? Was he playing another server at the same time? Watching remotely with some software so all he could do was click boxes and not actually play the game? Perhaps GMs ought to look at this guy.

[bubur]

its wacky for sure, but that whole area sans 1 basilisk and 1 undead frog right at the liveside entrance are all on live frog faction, including the minotaurs and EE himself

if the cleric has long-term plans to camp the manastone every week, i guess that would be motivation enough to maintain faction

a couple of cloudy pots would suffice at getting to the camp though. no real need for faction in that hypothetical

[Videri]

Exactly, bubur. Spend 100p on cloudy potions so you can get a priceless manastone on a cleric? Yes. Risk your own and others' place on the manastone list so you don't have to use invis to get into Lower Guk? Ridiculous.

And I do hope, for his sake and everyone else's, that this guy doesn't get on the manastone list over and over again without helping kill a single mob.

[Diogene]

Lol, its almost like people dont care about this game, they only care about the social status of having a manastone. Its an opportunity of being higher up in the class system than they are in real life. Manastone may well be the most covered in game item of all time, and this particular camp on this particular server, the most hardcore and dirty gaming experience of all time. Rogean and co need to check on this before its getting too much of a bad rep. Its an accident waiting to happen

[Videri]

No, we just wanna use one for free mana on our clerics.

[Nagoya]

This was good journalism Ataria.
One day this will be history for future generations.
Humans are scary.
Project 1999 is scary.
Please don't die farming a manastone peeps.

[branamil]

I'm willing to camp this up 80 hours for you, hit me up. I think this community is built on helping others!

[DMN]

its wacky for sure, but that whole area sans 1 basilisk and 1 undead frog right at the liveside entrance are all on live frog faction, including the minotaurs and EE himself

if the cleric has long-term plans to camp the manastone every week, i guess that would be motivation enough to maintain faction

a couple of cloudy pots would suffice at getting to the camp though. no real need for faction in that hypothetical

Speaking of this. I don't remember some of this stuff being classic:

Minotaurs, evil eye, and the water elemental all should be KOS to *everyone*. EE and elemental both see invis. And a couple of the minos generally see invis. For 100% sure the patriarch placeholder ALWAYS see invis. And that was actually a trick people used to get the right mino for him if they didn't want to kill all the minos.