Faction, Clerics, and Teal...

[Phillosopher27]

I've been noticing an increasing problem on teal and would like some clarification on the matter. We (34+ melee) have a huge issue getting clerics to come group in Sola to kill gnomes, and HHK guards because they are worried they will tank their almighty Gnome faction in ak'anon. So my question is, If a cleric is NOT a gnome, what are they losing out on by killing gnomes in Sol a, and Guards in HHK? I just dont see the point of stifling 90% of melee in their mid levels because you don't want to tank faction in a city you'll never visit? Unless there is some other reason. Please, HELP ME UNDERSTAND!

[bum3]

Why can't you group where they are? Lots of people prefer to get exp where they also get upgrades.

[Tecmos Deception]

I just dont see the point of stifling 90% of melee in their mid levels because you don't want to tank faction in a city you'll never visit?

Damn entitled millennial melee. You're the reason people voted for Trump. Why don't they make good music anymore these days? In my day we didn't have wizard spires sending us to the moon; we had to run from Qeynos to Freeport, blind, with no SOW, both ways.

[strawman]

Ak'anon is actually the best city in the game and you should feel bad for killing gnomes

[Swish]

Ak'anon is an awful place, don't see why anyone would care about faction there lol

[Puluin]

If the cleric is in fact a gnome, tanking gnome faction ruins tinkering convenience.. ( maybe entirely? I forget all the vendors )
Otherwise if not a gnome, it's personal preference, likely due to a shorter run for spells.

Hhk guards will tank efp and wfp guard faction as well as some in qeynos.
This means that since clerics don't get invis, doing anything in FP and parts qeynos becomes a life or death mission.

Go to cazic Thule instead.

[Danth]

Killing those gnomes also lowers Kaladim rogue guild faction which can cause problems for people who want to hang around the bank or go to the areas deeper in like the paladin/cleric guild.

Danth

[Swish]

I understand wanting to preserve factions if you're an enchanter particularly, but there's no shortage of places to bank in EQ.

These gnomes need more evil race time :p

[AegnorP99]

I hate destroying factions, even utterly useless ones. Just feels bad to hurt the good guys.

[Fawqueue]

It's just a case of what if-ism. It's not that anyone believes that Ak'Anon faction will be relevant later, they are just worried that it might...or that an NPC on that faction might be placed randomly around the world and catch them unaware. It's the fear of the unknown.

[Isomorphic]

Why can't you group where they are? Lots of people prefer to get exp where they also get upgrades.

Just had a warrior roll, win, and loot a runed mithril bracer over a shaman and druid. So why even go to a zone with upgrades?

[Bazia]

i havent seen 1 nbg group yet on p99

[Wallicker]

Had a lovely NBG group in unrest the other morning with players from 3 different guilds nice to see

[bum3]

Just had a warrior roll, win, and loot a runed mithril bracer over a shaman and druid. So why even go to a zone with upgrades?

You guys didn't specify need before greed at group formation? I always make sure it's need before greed.

[A1551]

i havent seen 1 nbg group yet on p99

I havent seen one NOT nbg group yet on teal. Not knocking it either way as long as everyones aware but so far the people ive been with, even rando pickup groups, have all nbg’ed stuff.

[Cen]

Who here hates ruining Dervish cutthroats? ;D

[Morratiz]

I just dont see the point of stifling 90% of melee in their mid levels because you don't want to tank faction in a city you'll never visit? Unless there is some other reason. Please, HELP ME UNDERSTAND!

Bruh....

[Palemoon]

If I'm a good race, I don't want to destroy other good race factions.

[Danth]

Just wait till you want to do Plane of Growth and all those goodie-goodie Clerics disappear the moment someone mentions it.

Danth

[cd288]

HHK guards can be a real problem since it's Qeynos and FP guard factions as well. Not surprised you don't see a good race being willing to join you killing them. Only non-evil race I've ever seen killing HHK guards were Enchanters since they can Illusion

[Jimjam]

Killing gnome makes it harder to use the gnome vendor in solA to purchase tink bags.

[curtischoy]

Shit...I'm a gnome and I've already considered killing those damn robots.

[mcoy]

Who here hates ruining Dervish cutthroats? ;D

I avoid tanking any faction that I can't repair. I skip the derv camps on every character.

-Mcoy

[Polixa]

Just had a warrior roll, win, and loot a runed mithril bracer over a shaman and druid. So why even go to a zone with upgrades?

I wondered how long it would take for a NBG complaint on green/teal.

NBG sucks badly, especially for non-melee. Melee characters can claim NBG on way more wonderful toys that have resale and twink value than casters and priests. Go with rolling for every sellable. In the long run it's fairer on everyone.