Boxers

[casspeus]

I have seen at least 5 people so far boxing toons. I know the devs have their hands full, but I really hope they get around to banning these idiots

[BlackBellamy]

Did you report all five?

[Khikik]

/petition (name) and (name). I think are 2boxing could a staff member look into it when possible

Note: %t does NOT work on petitions. Have to throw so many petitions out that people use %t

Not hard takes about 10 or 15 seconds

Then go on about your day, do not engage, harass, or violate any rules yourself based on your suspicion no matter how obvious you may think it is.

I look into and document all boxing reports. It is taken very seriously here.....Click my signature to find out just how seriously

[Swish]

That sig, love it

[Baler]

What does Khikik do here? - https://i.imgur.com/JvxaZ9u.mp4
That sig, love it

Dang that's some good s*** right there. I've been so focused on green hadn't even considered gifs. Aces to whom ever made that and props to Khikik for repping it.

[cd288]

I have seen at least 5 people so far boxing toons. I know the devs have their hands full, but I really hope they get around to banning these idiots

What did they do that makes you 100% sure they are boxing?

If you say something like "well I saw someone looking like they were auto following someone else" I'm gonna lol

[FungusTrooper]

What did they do that makes you 100% sure they are boxing?

If you say something like "well I saw someone looking like they were auto following someone else" I'm gonna lol

on day 1 i saw 5 daniels all following each other. i hear they're even still playing, now. disgusting.

[Vidar]

If there are boxers it is the players(our) responsibility to report them. the staff cant be everywhere at once.

[Taryth]

In ten years of on and off play on this server, almost all of which was playing with one person or another in the same house as me, I have never had a guide perform a boxing check. I have to imagine we've been reported at least once, as sometimes we use /follow and I'm sure it looks suss.

I believe the staff has methods of deducing who is boxing and who is not without interfering with the player in any way. The boxing check must be simply a final confirmation.

If you see boxers, don't post on the forums about it. What's that going to do? Start a witch hunt? Report them and allow the guides to do their thing. I highly doubt there are many boxers, everyone just wants to complain about the next Disaster of Green.

[cd288]

In ten years of on and off play on this server, almost all of which was playing with one person or another in the same house as me, I have never had a guide perform a boxing check. I have to imagine we've been reported at least once, as sometimes we use /follow and I'm sure it looks suss.

I believe the staff has methods of deducing who is boxing and who is not without interfering with the player in any way. The boxing check must be simply a final confirmation.

If you see boxers, don't post on the forums about it. What's that going to do? Start a witch hunt? Report them and allow the guides to do their thing. I highly doubt there are many boxers, everyone just wants to complain about the next Disaster of Green.

I’m assuming you were playing with VPNs?

[Bardp1999]

Pure gold

What does Khikik do here? - https://i.imgur.com/JvxaZ9u.mp4

[NegaStoat]

In ten years of on and off play on this server, almost all of which was playing with one person or another in the same house as me, I have never had a guide perform a boxing check.

I've personally reported several Necromancers in Felwithe using dual boxed low level elfs to sell for them while they were whacking guards. On two of those occasions, I got to see Bracknar appear and do a boxing test which had both of them fail. Believe me, they do check from time to time when it's obvious as hell.

[cd288]

I've personally reported several Necromancers in Felwithe using dual boxed low level elfs to sell for them while they were whacking guards. On two of those occasions, I got to see Bracknar appear and do a boxing test which had both of them fail. Believe me, they do check from time to time when it's obvious as hell.

Yeah this is definitely one of the more obvious examples. And it's always funny when the person doesn't bother to log off their boxed lowbie elf while they're killing guards because they're too lazy to log it back in periodically lol

[Taryth]

I’m assuming you were playing with VPNs?

No. I have an IP exemption.

One would think that a boxer using a VPN would be much more obvious, as they would be actively attempting to hide. But who knows, I'm not a forum conspiracy theorist. I just play the game.

[cd288]

No. I have an IP exemption.

One would think that a boxer using a VPN would be much more obvious, as they would be actively attempting to hide. But who knows, I'm not a forum conspiracy theorist. I just play the game.

I mean, in both cases it shows up as different IPs. So I think unless you're doing something where players look at your behavior and report you then I don't think you'd get tested. Since you're playing with multiple people and not actually boxing, I'm sure your behavior doesn't look suspicious enough.

[Jeni]

Just log into both servers on you computer then hot spot to your phone from the laptop and box two more there. It’s what all of us are doing. Going to have so many manastones! Think that guy afk on list is being a jerk? Nope just someone’s box getting more pixels then you gl trying to keep up at your x1 speed.

[cd288]

Just log into both servers on you computer then hot spot to your phone from the laptop and box two more there. It’s what all of us are doing. Going to have so many manastones! Think that guy afk on list is being a jerk? Nope just someone’s box getting more pixels then you gl trying to keep up at your x1 speed.

I believe the staff can tell if a connection is a tethered hot spot as opposed to an actual home internet ethernet/wifi connection. I'd expect they flag those for investigation.

[Jeni]

Cool and they will find one green character and one teal character nothing suspicious . If you are having trouble passing the box test just say you are actively playing on one of the other servers legally. Almost everyone in my guild Kingdom has been doing this no one caught yet.

[cd288]

Cool and they will find one green character and one teal character nothing suspicious . If you are having trouble passing the box test just say you are actively playing on one of the other servers legally. Almost everyone in my guild Kingdom has been doing this no one caught yet.

Well playing on both servers simultaneously isn't against the rules so why would you be box tested for playing one character on Green while you play another on Teal?

Playing two characters at once on a single server is what is against the rules.

[uygi]

The boxing check won’t include anything about green vs teal, they’ll test the two on same server. Remember that you can be boxing, and banned for it, totally regardless of what IPs you’re playing from. Idiot mistakes like same IP or same keyboard might be dead giveaways, but they’ll catch you regardless of how clever you think you are. You might get away with it for a little while, but that’s OK because then you’ll just have more to lose when you get your accounts permanently banned :D

I keep getting stark reminders that Green/Teal have massive non-P99 population... people whining about maps and compass, boxing openly, etc. etc.

[dennardscott86]

That sig, love it

Ok That was a Tenderizer quality sig right there, I love it!

[cd288]

The boxing check won’t include anything about green vs teal, they’ll test the two on same server. Remember that you can be boxing, and banned for it, totally regardless of what IPs you’re playing from. Idiot mistakes like same IP or same keyboard might be dead giveaways, but they’ll catch you regardless of how clever you think you are. You might get away with it for a little while, but that’s OK because then you’ll just have more to lose when you get your accounts permanently banned :D

I keep getting stark reminders that Green/Teal have massive non-P99 population... people whining about maps and compass, boxing openly, etc. etc.

You can't play from the same IP to my knowledge. It won't let you join the server if you have another character logged in from the same IP. Hence why you need VPNs or IP exemptions if you have more than 1 person in a home trying to play.

[Cen]

I assume GMs read tells between people so i wonder if boxers have fake conversations lol

[Zeboim]

Tighty whitey crew represent

[cd288]

I assume GMs read tells between people so i wonder if boxers have fake conversations lol

I don't think they have access to conversations. I think it was Menden on Reddit the other week who said they don't keep chat logs, which is why you have to screenshot or record it if you're trying to prove something in a petition via what was said in chat.

[Israel Adesanya]

Boxer briefs.

[uygi]

You can't play from the same IP to my knowledge. It won't let you join the server if you have another character logged in from the same IP. Hence why you need VPNs or IP exemptions if you have more than 1 person in a home trying to play.
...you answered it yourself, IP exemption. Tons of people have them, if people are willing to break the rules to box then they’re almost certainly willing to invent a “friend” that needs an exemption. My point is that no matter how you box, they will find you. And they will catch you. And you will lose all your shit that you boxed so hard to get. And you will probably rage. And we will laugh. Repeatedly.

[cd288]

...you answered it yourself, IP exemption. Tons of people have them, if people are willing to break the rules to box then they’re almost certainly willing to invent a “friend” that needs an exemption. My point is that no matter how you box, they will find you. And they will catch you. And you will lose all your shit that you boxed so hard to get. And you will probably rage. And we will laugh. Repeatedly.

I was just saying that your comment about idiot mistakes like using the same IP isn't really applicable since it's not a mistake that can actually be made.

At any rate, based on what past staff have said when they left the server, I'd bet there's a decent number of people who box frequently and don't get caught because they know how to avoid it. Personally, I've never seen the appeal in boxing because the whole point of EQ is that it's a social MMO lol, but I'm guessing there's quite a larger number of people than we think boxing with regularity since you'd essentially have to trigger someone's suspicions and be reported or otherwise by coincidence be doing it right in front of a staff member in order to be caught because how else would you know if someone is doing it if they're using multiple computers and IPs? Maybe I'm just ignorant of technology though.