Don't allow multi boxing for green/teal.

[VII]

You released teal to help lower population on green. Great idea. However, if you allow players to play a character on each, they'll just /move a toon to teal, make another on green, and nothing's been solved. Green's population is still rimming 2k. All that's happened is you're giving the hardcore players 2x the chance to get limited edition loot.

Make it one or the other. Got a dude on green, can't play teal and visa versa.

[Baler]

I really think this is being blown out of proportion.

[Bazia]

stop fucking badgering the staff jesus fuck, talk about de-incentivizing them to do anything interesting

blue had a bunch of different exploit and other issues and the economy was fine until kunark year 3 after 2 years in classic

relaX

[zaneosak]

stop fucking badgering the staff jesus fuck, talk about de-incentivizing them to do anything interesting

blue had a bunch of different exploit and other issues and the economy was fine until kunark year 3 after 2 years in classic

relaX

In a sea of actual dumb forum posts about this, this one actually is a legitimate issue. Green has 2k right now, Teal 700. I haven't seen 2700 since launch weekend. Clearly people are boxing which doesn't solve the issue that the split was done to fix anyways.

[Baler]

In a sea of actual dumb forum posts about this, this one actually is a legitimate issue.

As someone who actually played two servers at the same time (red/blue) I can assure you the amount of people who do this are in the minority. Such a small amount it really won't impact either server.

Yeah everyone is all hyped new teal server. Let people get over the initial spike of interest things will even out and multi-server players will dwindle.

[VII]

I don't post often, as shown by my post count and account creation date. But if they do all this work, for population control, and that ONE thing is thwarted by allowing people to play on both, then all the staffs work is for nothing.

That's all, I'm concerned about the population issues too, so lets choose. Teal OR Green. That's it.

Can't imagine this wasn't thought about by them, maybe they just need to come forth and state what the policy is for green/teal multi play.

[Bazia]

In a sea of actual dumb forum posts about this, this one actually is a legitimate issue. Green has 2k right now, Teal 700. I haven't seen 2700 since launch weekend. Clearly people are boxing which doesn't solve the issue that the split was done to fix anyways.

no one wants 2700

[VII]

As someone who actually played two servers at the same time (red/blue) I can assure you the amount of people who do this are in the minority. Such a small amount it really won't impact either server.

Red never offered mana stones, holgresh elder beads, scepters of destruction, locket of escape etc with the promise of these items made available on blue again after the server cycles. guarantee you the numbers of people doing it this time are much higher than you realize.

[zaneosak]

no one wants 2700

I'll take missed the point for $1000, Alex.

[Bazia]

who the fuk even is playing the "long game" to get more shit on the dead ass blue server where everyone has 12 characters and every item imaginable

its not very believable

[cd288]

I don’t even know how easy it would be to do this

[Somekid123]

Shut the fuck up and enjoy the game.

[VII]

who the fuk even is playing the "long game" to get more shit on the dead ass blue server where everyone has 12 characters and every item imaginable

its not very believable

it would be for RMT, clearly.

[Baler]

Red never offered mana stones, holgresh elder beads, scepters of destruction, locket of escape etc with the promise of these items made available on blue again after the server cycles. guarantee you the numbers of people doing it this time are much higher than you realize.

You skipped the important part.
Yeah everyone is all hyped new teal server. Let people get over the initial spike of interest things will even out and multi-server players will dwindle.

[zaneosak]

As someone who actually played two servers at the same time (red/blue) I can assure you the amount of people who do this are in the minority. Such a small amount it really won't impact either server.

Yeah everyone is all hyped new teal server. Let people get over the initial spike of interest things will even out and multi-server players will dwindle.

False equivalency. Green and Teal will some day "possibly weeks, months, or a year" be the same server. Why should you be able to progress two characters, camp multiple cash camps or be on /list at the same time to increase your platinum count, character count, or legacy item acquisition chance faster in a play space that will eventually be the same.

[cd288]

False equivalency. Green and Teal will some day "possibly weeks, months, or a year" be the same server. Why should you be able to progress two characters, camp multiple cash camps or be on /list at the same time to increase your platinum count, character count, or legacy item acquisition chance faster in a play space that will eventually be the same.

Just remember, you guys wanted this

[Vivix]

Everyone who is saying no is multiboxing right now lol.

[Tecmos Deception]

Just remember, you guys wanted this

I think a few people might have mentioned a new server would cause new problems, didn't they? ;)


Also, I really truly can't believe they're allowing boxing across teal and green. Either they're off their rockers or they actually don't intend to ever merge the two servers.

[cd288]

I think a few people might have mentioned a new server would cause new problems, didn't they? ;)


Also, I really truly can't believe they're allowing boxing across teal and green. Either they're off their rockers or they actually don't intend to ever merge the two servers.

lol

[Daldaen]

You should be limited to 1 IP across all 4 of their servers. No reason to allow boxing across any of them. All it does is splits peoples attention and makes them bad half paying attention players.

[Videri]

I hope no one will play Green and Teal simultaneously. However, boxing on 2 separate P99 servers has never been prohibited before. You could play both Red and Blue. We thought that was for the sake of Red’s population, but I’m not sure.

Is it even possible for the staff to detect or prevent a player from simultaneously logging in one character on each of two P99 servers?

* Please do not answer with your assumptions - please only answer if you actually know the answer to this question and why it is so. *

[Videri]

You should be limited to 1 IP across all 4 of their servers. No reason to allow boxing across any of them. All it does is splits peoples attention and makes them bad half paying attention players.

/agree

[pmccain226]

I think a few people might have mentioned a new server would cause new problems, didn't they? ;)


Also, I really truly can't believe they're allowing boxing across teal and green. Either they're off their rockers or they actually don't intend to ever merge the two servers.

I'm a Tecmos fan, watched a bunch of your YouTube vids, but... you're overreacting. It's been specifically stated that this may revert within weeks.

That's not really a whole lot of time for some neckbeards to ruin an economy. Even months wouldn't be a big deal. We're sitting in classic, after all.

[Palemoon]

2 boxing between green/teal = free spot on the /list for manastone while you grind on the other server? hmm

[Zeboim]

More like leveling your utility Druid while you grind your chanter.

Definitely an issue however. It's a major leg up for die hards, and it also really spoils the point of the split in the first place.

[sentinel]

Agreed, no multi boxing

[Tecmos Deception]

I'm a Tecmos fan, watched a bunch of your YouTube vids, but... you're overreacting. It's been specifically stated that this may revert within weeks.

That's not really a whole lot of time for some neckbeards to ruin an economy. Even months wouldn't be a big deal. We're sitting in classic, after all.

It's as much a principle of the thing as it is a problem because of the effect it has on the server. And yes, it might only be weeks. But maybe it'll be months. And that WOULD be a big deal. Half of classic with some hundred people able to box level up raid alts and collect more plat and legacy items leading into kunark isn't kosher. That's the shit that'll speed us to a blue situation. And the blue situation is most of the reason why everyone was excited about green, because you get to play without it without tons of item and plat and character power creep.

[zodium]

You should be limited to 1 IP across all 4 of their servers. No reason to allow boxing across any of them. All it does is splits peoples attention and makes them bad half paying attention players.

correct

[cd288]

It's as much a principle of the thing as it is a problem because of the effect it has on the server. And yes, it might only be weeks. But maybe it'll be months. And that WOULD be a big deal. Half of classic with some hundred people able to box level up raid alts and collect more plat and legacy items leading into kunark isn't kosher. That's the shit that'll speed us to a blue situation. And the blue situation is most of the reason why everyone was excited about green, because you get to play without it without tons of item and plat and character power creep.

Classic might not have the best gear, but there are a good number of lucrative cash camps that will cause a bunch of inflation when duplicated like this, so I agree with you. And you're right, we have no idea when this will merge back. If Green doesn't drop drastically in population, then we're likely looking at until Kunark

[norova]

Throwing my coin in the no boxing hat. If the intention was to temporarily control population, allowing boxing defeats the purpose. It removes the incentive for anyone to actually leave Green temporarily, which was the whole point.

Force them to choose one or the other.

[Neverwinter27]

Now there should never really be a merger, or might as well merge all three(blue,green,teal) when they do decide to do it.

[Keza]

I just took it as a given that it wasn't allowed, but honestly I'm surprised anyone would argue for boxing.

The logical thing to conclude from Rogean's post is that they will merge right before releasing Kunark. This means people who aren't dedicating all their characters to raid guilds can play both servers at the same time, farm lists, lock down easy camps like AC etc knowing they'll eventually get that character back.

It may seem like barely anyone would do this, but I'd bet it's higher than you might think. Not catastrophically so, but still meaningful, and more importantly meaningless to allow it.

[cd288]

I just took it as a given that it wasn't allowed, but honestly I'm surprised anyone would argue for boxing.

The logical thing to conclude from Rogean's post is that they will merge right before releasing Kunark. This means people who aren't dedicating all their characters to raid guilds can play both servers at the same time, farm lists, lock down easy camps like AC etc knowing they'll eventually get that character back.

It may seem like barely anyone would do this, but I'd bet it's higher than you might think. Not catastrophically so, but still meaningful, and more importantly meaningless to allow it.

Not sure why anyone thought this was like a made up concern pre-split. You have always been able to do this on p99 servers and tons of people will do it for Green and teal

[frantz256255]

You released teal to help lower population on green. Great idea. However, if you allow players to play a character on each, they'll just /move a toon to teal, make another on green, and nothing's been solved. Green's population is still rimming 2k. All that's happened is you're giving the hardcore players 2x the chance to get limited edition loot.

Make it one or the other. Got a dude on green, can't play teal and visa versa.

Maybe...you need to take a breath...or a coffee..or some vacation...its just a fucking game men !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vizax_Xaziv]

It's a fair point the servers are gonna be merged that one should not be allowed to level on both simultaneously

[knucklehead]

It makes sense to only allow play on one server, as Teal is effectively just a long-term instance of Green designed to relieve pressure of overcrowding.

The above statement that "they're going to be merged again, which means all the cash and items will be merged as well" should make it crystal clear that you'd be effectively two boxing the entire time til they merged, which does jack the economy a bit.

More importantly, it does not shit to alleviate pressure on Green if even just 1/4 of the folks on Teal are also playing Green, which is totally likely.

Multiple clients on servers that will never interact doesn't have these problems.

[Ligma]

I don't think we should allow boxing because then I have to play two servers in order to properly deny pixels.

Seriously though, none of those legacy items are even that good. But if there's 100 more manastones then I have to rmt mine for $5 less in a few years when I'm homeless because all the shit filled socks finally got my house condemned.

[AgentEpilot]

stop fucking badgering the staff jesus fuck, talk about de-incentivizing them to do anything interesting




Right? Like what the fuck they release this beautiful new server, now another one and immediately its like "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT IT THIS WAY".

I am worried Rogean gonna snap one day and delete all our pixels.

[cd288]

It makes sense to only allow play on one server, as Teal is effectively just a long-term instance of Green designed to relieve pressure of overcrowding.

The above statement that "they're going to be merged again, which means all the cash and items will be merged as well" should make it crystal clear that you'd be effectively two boxing the entire time til they merged, which does jack the economy a bit.

More importantly, it does not shit to alleviate pressure on Green if even just 1/4 of the folks on Teal are also playing Green, which is totally likely.

Multiple clients on servers that will never interact doesn't have these problems.

This was always going to be the case (it has always been the case with all P99 servers that you can play on multiple servers simultaneously), and when it was brought up as one of the reasons not to split the server all you people went "MUH BUT MY EXP IS SLOW RIGHT NOW!" Well, you guys got what you wanted with splitting the servers and now you have to deal with it.

[Zekayy]

you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing so stop crying and before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

[cd288]

you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing so stop crying and before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

Sorry about your foot. Foot injuries are the worst

[sentinel]

before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

You mean you could *not* care less

also what happened to your foot? (more interesting than this discussion)

[Keza]

you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing so stop crying and before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

But red isn't merging with anything, and blue is already bloated with loot and at the end of it's life, so kind of completely different and totally incomparable. Also when green and teal merge it will be impossible to box them because it will be one server.

I don't know what your foot has to do with anything... I have a blood clot in my leg right now that could break free and kill me at any moment. It's not exactly relevant to p99, but I'm guessing your high on painkillers.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing so stop crying and before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

You REALLY don't understand the problem here, do you? I'm gonna ask you to please refrain from posting in this thread again! Thank you!

[Videri]

you guys are complaining about this but we have always been able to do this Can play red and blue at the same time no issues can play green and blue at the same time can play red and green at the sametime when teal merges with green It wont allow boxing so stop crying and before anyone says im taking advantage of this im not I could careless as I broke my foot and currently in the hostpital

The idea is someone could play a character on Green and one on Teal, level up both, then have two characters when they merge; while us regular folk only have one.

Multiply this by a whole guild and boxing would put them ahead of other guilds.

It might not end up being a problem because the merge may come soon, but the arguments against cannot be ignored.

[Wurl]

The idea is someone could play a character on Green and one on Teal, level up both, then have two characters when they merge; while us regular folk only have one.

Multiply this by a whole guild and boxing would put them ahead of other guilds.

It might not end up being a problem because the merge may come soon, but the arguments against cannot be ignored.
Yeah, this. Suddenly I feel like I'm wasting my time by only playing one character on Green instead of playing both Green and Teal.

[Zekayy]

The idea is someone could play a character on Green and one on Teal, level up both, then have two characters when they merge; while us regular folk only have one.

Multiply this by a whole guild and boxing would put them ahead of other guilds.

It might not end up being a problem because the merge may come soon, but the arguments against cannot be ignored.

you must be new here welcome to p99 where guilds have always had the advantage over other guilds thats just the p99 meta also theres nothing stopping anyone creating mutiple accounts you can have as many as you want

[Tecmos Deception]

you must be new here welcome to p99 where guilds have always had the advantage over other guilds thats just the p99 meta also theres nothing stopping anyone creating mutiple accounts you can have as many as you want

You talking about how some guilds squeeze out every advantage they can on p99 while still not realizing how boxing on teal and green is a horrible idea really makes me think you've got at least a mild concussion in addition to the foot injury.


I'm really starting to believe the staff don't intend on the servers merging though. So it's kinda moot.

[curtischoy]

Agree with OP. Allowing the boxing of green and teal is stupid and should not be allowed.

[Raclen]

You talking about how some guilds squeeze out every advantage they can on p99 while still not realizing how boxing on teal and green is a horrible idea really makes me think you've got at least a mild concussion in addition to the foot injury.


I'm really starting to believe the staff don't intend on the servers merging though. So it's kinda moot.

I don't think intentions have anything to do with it. I think it is strictly quantitative and they will base it on average population. I think this because they said it in the announcement.

[Videri]

you must be new here welcome to p99 where guilds have always had the advantage over other guilds thats just the p99 meta also theres nothing stopping anyone creating mutiple accounts you can have as many as you want

Of course some guilds will get ahead of other guilds, but they are not usually allowed to do so through boxing.

[Raclen]

Do you guys really see a big advantage in playing two chars at once on different servers? Are you worried about a guild farming more items and having more plat than another guild or a guild being able to level more than 1 char at a time? I don't think for most classes it is that advantageous to level 2 chars at the same time unless they are both solo classes. If you are a group dependent class... which is also the type of class guilds need to get ahead, they can't really go afk to play another char.

[Lone Gnome]

Wait you can play both green and teal and copy chars? thats like boxing while you level 2x speed?

im confused about the rules

[Tecmos Deception]

Do you guys really see a big advantage in playing two chars at once on different servers? Are you worried about a guild farming more items and having more plat than another guild or a guild being able to level more than 1 char at a time? I don't think for most classes it is that advantageous to level 2 chars at the same time unless they are both solo classes. If you are a group dependent class... which is also the type of class guilds need to get ahead, they can't really go afk to play another char.

Assuming the servers do merge in the future:

A guild like TMO during blue's Kunark dominated the entire raid scene for months and months because they had a slew of alts for vox and naggy, a slew of tracking characters, a bunch of porters, shared accounts, etc. PP is good for recharging, consumables, tradeskills that eventually churn out necessary resist gears, etc. Gear is obviously important to have... double the tranix crowns and such are waiting to be claimed for the life of the split.

All that shit is easier to put together if you get to box on the two servers that then get merged.

[cd288]

Do you guys really see a big advantage in playing two chars at once on different servers? Are you worried about a guild farming more items and having more plat than another guild or a guild being able to level more than 1 char at a time? I don't think for most classes it is that advantageous to level 2 chars at the same time unless they are both solo classes. If you are a group dependent class... which is also the type of class guilds need to get ahead, they can't really go afk to play another char.

You clearly have never bumped into the decent number of people boxing multiple characters in a group on P99

[Videri]

Assuming the servers do merge in the future:

A guild like TMO during blue's Kunark dominated the entire raid scene for months and months because they had a slew of alts for vox and naggy, a slew of tracking characters, a bunch of porters, shared accounts, etc. PP is good for recharging, consumables, tradeskills that eventually churn out necessary resist gears, etc. Gear is obviously important to have... double the tranix crowns and such are waiting to be claimed for the life of the split.

All that shit is easier to put together if you get to box on the two servers that then get merged.

Tecmos and other posters have collectively described the potential problem more than adequately. Anyone who claims not to understand is either trolling or inexperienced.

[curtischoy]

which is also the type of class guilds need to get ahead, they can't really go afk to play another char.

Go afk? What are you talking about? It is not very difficult to play 3 at a time well, 2 is easy.

[Raclen]

Admit it, you are all lady men and need to reevaluate your life choices if teal boxing bothers you.

[cd288]

Admit it, you are all lady men and need to reevaluate your life choices if teal boxing bothers you.

I'm actually just more loling at the outrage of various Teal players that some Green players are just boxing on Teal instead of permanently switching lol

[Raclen]

I'm actually just more loling at the outrage of various Teal players that some Green players are just boxing on Teal instead of permanently switching lol

Where is this outrage? It is only in your brain.

[cd288]

Where is this outrage? It is only in your brain.

Did you miss the first couple hours after people realized this was possible? lolololol

[Raclen]

Yeah I missed that complaining I guess.

[Zekayy]

Assuming the servers do merge in the future:

A guild like TMO during blue's Kunark dominated the entire raid scene for months and months because they had a slew of alts for vox and naggy, a slew of tracking characters, a bunch of porters, shared accounts, etc. PP is good for recharging, consumables, tradeskills that eventually churn out necessary resist gears, etc. Gear is obviously important to have... double the tranix crowns and such are waiting to be claimed for the life of the split.

All that shit is easier to put together if you get to box on the two servers that then get merged.

Understandable but like I said earlier thats just the p99 meta theres always going to be a #1 guild on any server you go to you just have to try and out do them, I get the fact that this could be a problem but at the sametime its also not people farm items on both green and teal right? cool that means theres more of those items on the server and prices go down or stay about the same its called supply and demand. Like the pre nerf CoS people farmed a shit ton of those and the price only went up a bit like a couple k when they got nerfed just using the CoS as an example

[Tecmos Deception]

Understandable but like I said earlier thats just the p99 meta theres always going to be a #1 guild on any server you go to you just have to try and out do them

Your argument is "shit's never going to be perfect so why worry about trying to improve it at all"?

...

You're exasperating.

[Quinas]

Green and Teal are effectively one server.

Might as well allow people to box two characters on Blue too.

[Arvan]

Yeah should not be allowed to box green + teal.

The red argument holds no water because red is never getting merged.

I feel like the people that are so adamant about keeping it are playing both and decreasing the quality of both :(

[cd288]

Understandable but like I said earlier thats just the p99 meta theres always going to be a #1 guild on any server you go to you just have to try and out do them, I get the fact that this could be a problem but at the sametime its also not people farm items on both green and teal right? cool that means theres more of those items on the server and prices go down or stay about the same its called supply and demand. Like the pre nerf CoS people farmed a shit ton of those and the price only went up a bit like a couple k when they got nerfed just using the CoS as an example

Except you also ignore the ease with which you can get tons of plat via farming. People playing on both simultaneously means more plat farming/influx of currency into the economy which advances things further down the road to inflation and high value items costing absurd amounts of plat that really only the fat cats can afford.

[Gustoo]

The only issue with boxing green and teal is that you can sit on the manastone list on two servers at the same time. Seems dumb.

[oldhead]

Agree, do not allow players to be on both servers at once.

[Raclen]

Your argument is "shit's never going to be perfect so why worry about trying to improve it at all"?

...

You're exasperating.

No it was an economics argument based on supply and demand. If you want to knock out everything the number 1 guild can do that makes them better have limits on hours per day an account can be logged in for.

As for most people I'm sure they are okay with the top farmers farming 2x the tranix crowns so they can buy one versus them just having the monopoly on 1x tranix crowns. If you think farming an item like that is stopping the number 2 guild from raiding they are out of luck anyways, because the number 1 guild can easily hold down the top spawns in classic on one server.

The effect of people 2 boxing is a huge exaggeration and a non issue.

[Cuktus]

The main argument I keep seeing is people are going to be prepping for merge and have more stuff/toons/alts/etc. Why is this bad? More is better, is it not? And its not like this isn't an option for everyone. In the end, seems like a win/win to me.
P.S. If someone is playing a chara on each server and under-performing in your group, boot them.

[Chintofv]

Staff should just award every player on both green and teal a DE mask and a mana stone. Then everyone would just STFU about this stuff. I had both on live, and back then no one gave a crap. I’ve never had either on Blue, and guess what? It didn’t matter. Why people are getting their panties in a bunch over what may or may not happen in three years is mystifying. I’ve enjoyed green knowing there was no way I would ever poop sock my way into getting a manastone. Chill out.

[skipdog]

Staff should just award every player on both green and teal a DE mask and a mana stone. Then everyone would just STFU about this stuff. I had both on live, and back then no one gave a crap. I’ve never had either on Blue, and guess what? It didn’t matter. Why people are getting their panties in a bunch over what may or may not happen in three years is mystifying. I’ve enjoyed green knowing there was no way I would ever poop sock my way into getting a manastone. Chill out.

LOL! "how dare you discuss things about a video game server on a discussion forum for that server!"

imagine thinking that people discussing issues on a server bothered you SO MUCH, that you had to make a post to tell them to STFU and demand that the devs should give everyone everything just so this guy doesn't have to see threads like this (that he has been somehow forced into clicking into and reading).

mind boggling stuff!

[korzax]

I'm 5 boxing, red, blue, green, teal and purple

[Zekayy]

Your argument is "shit's never going to be perfect so why worry about trying to improve it at all"?

...

You're exasperating.

Clearly you have never raided on p99 dude people cheat to get to the top thats how shit is here on p99 its not going to change because theres a new server

[Zekayy]

No it was an economics argument based on supply and demand. If you want to knock out everything the number 1 guild can do that makes them better have limits on hours per day an account can be logged in for.

As for most people I'm sure they are okay with the top farmers farming 2x the tranix crowns so they can buy one versus them just having the monopoly on 1x tranix crowns. If you think farming an item like that is stopping the number 2 guild from raiding they are out of luck anyways, because the number 1 guild can easily hold down the top spawns in classic on one server.

The effect of people 2 boxing is a huge exaggeration and a non issue.

Finally someone gets it

[Zekayy]

The main argument I keep seeing is people are going to be prepping for merge and have more stuff/toons/alts/etc. Why is this bad? More is better, is it not? And its not like this isn't an option for everyone. In the end, seems like a win/win to me.
P.S. If someone is playing a chara on each server and under-performing in your group, boot them.

[Chintofv]

LOL! "how dare you discuss things about a video game server on a discussion forum for that server!"

imagine thinking that people discussing issues on a server bothered you SO MUCH, that you had to make a post to tell them to STFU and demand that the devs should give everyone everything just so this guy doesn't have to see threads like this (that he has been somehow forced into clicking into and reading).

mind boggling stuff!

STFU

[Zeboim]

People playing on both servers to farm items doesn't mean there will be more items, it just means that (at worst) half as many people will control them. That logic is bunk. All of those valuable items are going to be locked down on both servers. Teal already exists, the number of items is now set. It's just a question of who has them.

[Process2Progress]

Here is The REAL Concern:
*Teal Made To alleviate the Pressure/over camping on green
*Most of the Players don't "/Move" ...They create second toon's (Box) on teal
*Green is still over camped..people who legitimately "/move" or start fresh on teal get screwed out of legitimate camps that otherwise would not be populated by "Green/Teal Boxers"

The economical impacts (Though they are valid)...are secondary in my opinion at this point, why let people take over all the camps on both server and leave the rest of the players vying for scraps...just saying..now that said even if Nilbog and Rogean made it only one or the other "green or teal" there are plenty of people (Not good ones mind you) who would still exploit it and use a second account to farm on teal as well...
The following Public Service announcement applies to them...

To all of you who box multiple toons on P1999 servers with vpn's and workarounds because you "FEEL" it should be ok because you could do it on live back in 1999...
YOU too are the reason for a plethora of problems that were on blue. Quit cheating the rest of the "Legitimate" playerbase who actually follow the rules and guidelines...in essence.. Quit Cheating...go back to live with your bs shenanigans.. you are unworthy of p1999.. and know that all your accomplishments in p1999 mean nothing...you invalidate your own character legitimacy by breaking and bending the rules as you please. No Justifications (Rant Over)

Have an awesome game everyone:) and play legitimate..its the only way that counts.

[solleks]

It's impossible to efficiently play two characters doing two seperate activities on seperate servers. You're probably just losing camps/mobs and appearing incompetent/inactive.

[k9quaint]

I am worried Rogean gonna snap one day and delete all our pixels.

This

[cd288]

Here is The REAL Concern:
*Teal Made To alleviate the Pressure/over camping on green
*Most of the Players don't "/Move" ...They create second toon's (Box) on teal
*Green is still over camped..people who legitimately "/move" or start fresh on teal get screwed out of legitimate camps that otherwise would not be populated by "Green/Teal Boxers"

The economical impacts (Though they are valid)...are secondary in my opinion at this point, why let people take over all the camps on both server and leave the rest of the players vying for scraps...just saying..now that said even if Nilbog and Rogean made it only one or the other "green or teal" there are plenty of people (Not good ones mind you) who would still exploit it and use a second account to farm on teal as well...
The following Public Service announcement applies to them...

To all of you who box multiple toons on P1999 servers with vpn's and workarounds because you "FEEL" it should be ok because you could do it on live back in 1999...
YOU too are the reason for a plethora of problems that were on blue. Quit cheating the rest of the "Legitimate" playerbase who actually follow the rules and guidelines...in essence.. Quit Cheating...go back to live with your bs shenanigans.. you are unworthy of p1999.. and know that all your accomplishments in p1999 mean nothing...you invalidate your own character legitimacy by breaking and bending the rules as you please. No Justifications (Rant Over)

Have an awesome game everyone:) and play legitimate..its the only way that counts.

What’s overcamped on Green in your opinion? To me it seems fairly under camped actually. Last night two bandit camps were open in west and East Karana, an orc camp was open in EC, multiple derv/orc camps open in the desert. Barely anyone in SK or Lake Rathe. The gnolls in Highpass were open. Not many people in the Unrest yard for a decent period of time, and short wait lists in Unrest and CB (did not check Mistmoore). Guk was more crowded but it always is. What do you feel is overcamped?

[cd288]

It's impossible to efficiently play two characters doing two seperate activities on seperate servers. You're probably just losing camps/mobs and appearing incompetent/inactive.

It’s really not. It depends on the class. If you’re a puller/tank and you’re in a group then sure. But playing something like a caster and a healer? Super easy, even if you’re in groups on both at once. EQ is such a simplistic game for those classes. Stand up, cast nuke with caster and send pet in if you have one, sit back down, monitor health levels on healer, stand up cast heal, sit back down.

[Natewest1987]

Damn. Wish I would have known this was more than a rumor before I transferred both chars to teal lol.

[Keza]

It's impossible to efficiently play two characters doing two seperate activities on seperate servers. You're probably just losing camps/mobs and appearing incompetent/inactive.

This reminds me of a certain thread a couple months back regarding... or maybe it was derailed and ended up talking about the skill level required to play EQ.

My friend can't listen or speak and play games at the same time. Does that mean all the devs who added VOIP to their game wasted their time, or does it mean my friend is an idiot?

Point being you could play different servers effectively. The only way this would be difficult is playing a bard/ench/shaman/monk on each server in a fast pulling group or as the puller of said group.

[Jeni]

Here is The REAL Concern:
*Teal Made To alleviate the Pressure/over camping on green
*Most of the Players don't "/Move" ...They create second toon's (Box) on teal
*Green is still over camped..people who legitimately "/move" or start fresh on teal get screwed out of legitimate camps that otherwise would not be populated by "Green/Teal Boxers"

The economical impacts (Though they are valid)...are secondary in my opinion at this point, why let people take over all the camps on both server and leave the rest of the players vying for scraps...just saying..now that said even if Nilbog and Rogean made it only one or the other "green or teal" there are plenty of people (Not good ones mind you) who would still exploit it and use a second account to farm on teal as well...
The following Public Service announcement applies to them...

To all of you who box multiple toons on P1999 servers with vpn's and workarounds because you "FEEL" it should be ok because you could do it on live back in 1999...
YOU too are the reason for a plethora of problems that were on blue. Quit cheating the rest of the "Legitimate" playerbase who actually follow the rules and guidelines...in essence.. Quit Cheating...go back to live with your bs shenanigans.. you are unworthy of p1999.. and know that all your accomplishments in p1999 mean nothing...you invalidate your own character legitimacy by breaking and bending the rules as you please. No Justifications (Rant Over)

Have an awesome game everyone:) and play legitimate..its the only way that counts.

This is not a winning strategy hope you can keep up with the rest of us playing multiple toons.

[solleks]

It's impossible for me to efficiently play two characters doing two seperate activities on seperate servers. I'm probably just losing camps/mobs and appearing incompetent/inactive. Please send help.

[Kriebel10k]

How do i go about getting it approved so i can have 2 accounts on the same IP? I would like to have my son play with me but hitting a wall.

Thanks.

[Frug]

Here is The REAL Concern:
*Most of the Players don't "/Move" ...They create second toon's (Box) on teal


The population numbers don't back this up. There are some boxers, sure, but green has dropped by a large percentage that Teal has reported.

[Natewest1987]

I'm confused by all the misinformation on this topic on the forums. Is there a definitive response from devs whether youre allowed to box teal and green at the same time ?

[cd288]

I'm confused by all the misinformation on this topic on the forums. Is there a definitive response from devs whether youre allowed to box teal and green at the same time ?

You are allowed to. You have always been allowed to play on different P99 servers at the same time. You can play on Blue and Green at the same time for example

[worm4real]

You should be limited to 1 IP across all 4 of their servers. No reason to allow boxing across any of them. All it does is splits peoples attention and makes them bad half paying attention players.

Feel like it's worth noting that there are people who have two people in the same household playing together and that anyone determined to multi-box is going to get around a IP limitation. Really would be a bummer for my brother and I have to go back to the true 1999 experience of only being able to dial into the internet on one computer at a time.

edit: Though I guess this is separate from the family IP exception? As it stands no one needs to claim that to be playing on green and teal at the same time?

[silo32]

I really think this is being blown out of proportion.

No it's not