Meditate Macro?

[jakeojohnson]

Is there a hotkey/macro for sit and meditate? I am far to lazy to be hitting 2 buttons every time I need to med.

Thanks

[Wootwoot]

Video below!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[Wootwoot]

Video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[Wootwoot]

How to video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[NegaStoat]

A /meditate macro command does not exist for the Green client. Please enjoy your selectively 'classic' experience to the fullest.

[Wenai]

Yeah. I wouldn’t be able to play a caster for this reason currently. I know it sounds small, but I have almost everything bound to hotkeys and not being able to hit a hotkey to trigger med would be awful.

I can speak on the UI perspective. I don’t know if the Titanium Client has any concept of a meditate button as it was never really part of that era. It is the same reason the /meditate text command doesn’t have any function. So even if classic you could press and hold the meditate key to make a hot button, that clearly can’t be supported here since the meditate key is just a custom P1999 thing.

Personally I would like to have seen it maintain the button state somehow.

[Khorza]

Personally I would like to have seen it maintain the button state somehow.

Maybe I'm wrong (it's been awhile) but that's how I remember it in classic. All you had to do is open the book and the button would already be pressed.

[Fammaden]

I thought it stayed pressed in beta but I didn't play beta a ton and just made many lowbies. It definitely used to work that way during Kunark at least, I didn't play in vanilla back in era.

That would make all the difference. You can bind spellbook open to any key, but you currently have to click the damn button everytime. I suppose we could say this substitutes for the inconvenience of the fullscreen book, but that would be a stretch.

[Naxy]

When did it change to be that you only need to sit to med?

[whitebandit]

Maybe its just me, I mentioned this in another thread, But i could have SWORE that the meditate button could be dropped on your hotbar... And clicking it would automatically open spellbook and meditate

[Tyronius of Midnight]

Maybe its just me, I mentioned this in another thread, But i could have SWORE that the meditate button could be dropped on your hotbar... And clicking it would automatically open spellbook and meditate


Will have to test this later tonight on my trilogy server!

[kotton05]

Maybe its just me, I mentioned this in another thread, But i could have SWORE that the meditate button could be dropped on your hotbar... And clicking it would automatically open spellbook and meditate

I think you could hotbar the spell book or something but not med

[Nirgon]

Bind /book

The issue is meditate button does not stay pressed in once clicked

It should remember how you've toggled it and remain that way between zones

Has to be some way to hax that in...

[Yoite]

Maybe its just me, I mentioned this in another thread, But i could have SWORE that the meditate button could be dropped on your hotbar... And clicking it would automatically open spellbook and meditate

i remember it being this way as well and i think thats how i had it on my hotkeys. im going to try to get back into my photobucket account for screen shot proof.

[Yoite]

no luck, got the photobucket account but there were not many pictures of EQ in there...Where did i save them? the world may never know.

[Deathrydar]

Is the extra step of clicking the meditate button really that big of an issue?

[Wickedbane]

Is the extra step of clicking the meditate button really that big of an issue?

Yes!

[Trollhide]

Is the extra step of clicking the meditate button really that big of an issue?
It's p obnoxious yes

[curtischoy]

Is the extra step of clicking the meditate button really that big of an issue?

I'd bet it's more mouse clicks than maxing tailoring.

[Deathrydar]

I cannot believe how lazy some of ya'll are.

[Voodude]

I cannot believe how lazy some of ya'll are.

I don't think it has anything to do with being lazy as there is just no good place to put your mouse while you're about to sit and med. You always have to wiggle it around to find it. It's just annoying.

[Fammaden]

I cannot believe how lazy some of ya'll are.

Was it like this at launch in 1999 or is this unintended? I haven't seen anyone telling me that this is on purpose or some classic feature.

[skipdog]

I cannot believe how lazy some of ya'll are.

I'd agree, IF 'Opening the spellbook and then clicking the mediate button every time you meditate' is classic.

If, in classic, you just clicked it once and then it was just a matter of opening your spellbook (thus blocking your view of the world), then this seems silly that they'd add this forced spellbook with a broken meditate button. Forcing a mouse click every meditate really isn't comparable to being blind to the world.

[Deathrydar]

Was it like this at launch in 1999 or is this unintended? I haven't seen anyone telling me that this is on purpose or some classic feature.

When you opened the spell book in 99, you automatically meditated, or you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever, I can't remember which one. But clicking it every time I open the book presently is not that big of a deal. It actually adds another piece of immersion into it for me!

I think it's making some of you blue-vets have to actually think for once and you are all getting frustrated.

[skipdog]

When you opened the spell book in 99, you automatically meditated, or you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever, I can't remember which one. But clicking it every time I open the book presently is not that big of a deal. It actually adds another piece of immersion into it for me!

I think it's making some of you blue-vets have to actually think for once and you are all getting frustrated.

So because you personally enjoy the un-classic 'extra mouse click every time you meditate' behavior, everybody else should suffer just... because!??!

There's no talking sense into some people. Some people's opinions are pretty easily ignored.

[Deathrydar]

So because you personally enjoy the un-classic 'extra mouse click every time you meditate' behavior, everybody else should suffer just... because!??!

There's no talking sense into some people. Some people's opinions are pretty easily ignored.

Suffer? Because you have to click a button?

Suffer?

OMFG, so dramatic......Suffer?

/smh

[mcoy]

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August 30, 2000 8:00 am
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*Today's Patch*

Today we modified the EverQuest client to implement the following
changes:

- The /book command (/book #) now accepts pages 1 through 50, and will
switch to the proper page.
- Opening your spellbook will automatically cause you to begin
meditating providing that you have the skill.
- Removed the /meditate command since it is no longer necessary.


So in a little over a year and a half we should no longer have to click it.

-Mcoy

[Videri]

Is the extra step of clicking the meditate button really that big of an issue?

Nah. It’s easy and fast enough. My mouse moves toward the Meditate button before my left hand even hits B (bound to spellbook).

[Deathrydar]

Nah. It’s easy and fast enough. My mouse moves toward the Meditate button before my left hand even hits B (bound to spellbook).

Yeah, I got it down now as well. A couple of times I sat there with the book opened and forgot to click meditate but, as with all things, I learned how to adapt.

[skipdog]

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August 30, 2000 8:00 am
------------------------------

*Today's Patch*

Today we modified the EverQuest client to implement the following
changes:

- The /book command (/book #) now accepts pages 1 through 50, and will
switch to the proper page.
- Opening your spellbook will automatically cause you to begin
meditating providing that you have the skill.
- Removed the /meditate command since it is no longer necessary.


So in a little over a year and a half we should no longer have to click it.

-Mcoy

Ok, then if you had to click the Meditate button every single time in classic, then well done by the devs here!

[Videri]

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August 30, 2000 8:00 am
------------------------------

*Today's Patch*

Today we modified the EverQuest client to implement the following
changes:

- The /book command (/book #) now accepts pages 1 through 50, and will
switch to the proper page.
- Opening your spellbook will automatically cause you to begin
meditating providing that you have the skill.
- Removed the /meditate command since it is no longer necessary.


So in a little over a year and a half we should no longer have to click it.

-Mcoy

This is the only post in this thread that matters.

[Deathrydar]

Ok, then if you had to click the Meditate button every single time in classic, then well done by the devs here!

/move to resolved

[skipdog]

/move to resolved

You're the one who is convinced that the behavior on green is un-classic, but that it should remain because it adds to your immersion.

I'm just the one that wants things to be classic. That's it.

[Deathrydar]

You're the one who is convinced that the behavior on green is un-classic, but that it should remain because it adds to your immersion.

I'm just the one that wants things to be classic. That's it.

I am convinced that the behavior on green is unclassic?
Not sure where you're getting your information from.

[skipdog]

When you opened the spell book in 99, you automatically meditated, or you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever, I can't remember which one. But clicking it every time I open the book presently is not that big of a deal. It actually adds another piece of immersion into it for me!

I think it's making some of you blue-vets have to actually think for once and you are all getting frustrated.

Is your memory truly that short?

[Deathrydar]

Is your memory truly that short?

I still don't see where I am convinced that the behavior on green is unclassic? Because I said that I didn't know if it auto clicked or didn't back in classic?

[mcoy]

This is a thread of people reminiscing on the "good old days" back in 2004:

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-26860.html

Yinamar
12-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Having to open your spell book and actualy click meditate.

Ice Weasel X
01-01-2005, 09:56 PM
Having to open your spell book and actualy click meditate.It was always embarrassing to go AFK with the book open, then come back and find out you'd forgotten to click that damn button.

I'm pretty sure I even have it in my Qien logs of me commenting on being dumb and forgetting to meditate.

-Mcoy

[skipdog]

I still don't see where I am convinced that the behavior on green is unclassic? Because I said that I didn't know if it auto clicked or didn't back in classic?

Are you just incapable of reading what you typed? Here, let's go through this step by step:

You said this: "When you opened the spell book in 99, you automatically meditated, or you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever, I can't remember which one."

This is you, stating how you believed it was in 99. You are saying that EITHER you 'automatically meditated' OR 'you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever'. This is you, making a clear declaration that it was one of these two options back in classic, in 1999.

[Deathrydar]

Are you just incapable of reading what you typed? Here, let's go through this step by step:

You said this: "When you opened the spell book in 99, you automatically meditated, or you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever, I can't remember which one."

This is you, stating how you believed it was in 99. You are saying that EITHER you 'automatically meditated' OR 'you had to click it the first time and it auto-clicked forever'. This is you, making a clear declaration that it was one of these two options back in classic, in 1999.

Correct. But I have no problem with it. Is there something wrong with you?

[silo32]

I cannot believe how lazy some of ya'll are.

lmao you don't even play on this server all you do is cry

and you can meditate click the button and heal or cast a spell in between server ticks like a shm cani dancing but with meditate, its very tedious but is better than just sit medding healing, nuking, if you time it right you can catch med ticks

[Jimjam]

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August 30, 2000 8:00 am
------------------------------

*Today's Patch*

Today we modified the EverQuest client to implement the following
changes:

- The /book command (/book #) now accepts pages 1 through 50, and will
switch to the proper page.
- Opening your spellbook will automatically cause you to begin
meditating providing that you have the skill.
- Removed the /meditate command since it is no longer necessary.


So in a little over a year and a half we should no longer have to click it.

-Mcoy

This needs green bug reporting...

Pretty sure we are lacking /meditate command.

[Valion]

Your right Jimjam typing /meditate does not work in game I've tried it more than once and get not a valid command if added to a hotkey.

[keithjinternet]

I don't understand this. It's also classic to not be able to see anything while medding, and just stare at your spellbook. That obviously was not implemented. Why are so many things cherry picked?

[Cuktus]

I don't understand this. It's also classic to not be able to see anything while medding, and just stare at your spellbook. That obviously was not implemented. Why are so many things cherry picked?

They had this one working. The community... was not receptive.

[keithjinternet]

They had this one working. The community... was not receptive.

Judging by this forum, the community can't decide whether they want a truly classic experience or not.

[Deathrydar]

Judging by this forum, the community can't decide whether they want a truly classic experience or not.

You can close these forums now.

[Valion]

They had this one working. The community... was not receptive.

Shame nothing quite like hearing footsteps in SK hearing a grunt then seeing taunting Attacker master collapse the book just as your pet dies to a cyclops. Fun times. Guaranteed to get the heartrate/bloodpressure going. :D

[Naxy]

It was very ... unnerving only being able to play by hearing and watching healthbars.

[Daliant17447]

Why would u put book on a hotkey.... U can already directly bind it in options

[Zheta]

Would appreciate /meditate, if only to stave off the carpal tunnel I thought was avoiding by not choosing Bard.

[whitebandit]

Would appreciate /meditate, if only to stave off the carpal tunnel I thought was avoiding by not choosing Bard.

Cannidancing is dead!

[FungusTrooper]

Just fyi, you can bind spellbook to a key, and it also remembers the window position, so you can put it where the button is easy to click, and bind it to your normal sit key.

That makes it easier, but not easy.

[Uuruk]

Level 35+ casters will now automatically meditate while sitting.

i need dis (or is it already this way)

[jakeojohnson]

you got like 10 troll posts on my thread. Please exit the thread and go back to trolling your bridge

[Zaes]

There was a button and command because I used to have a social macro made, we didn't have to click it everytime.

[Khorza]

There was a button and command because I used to have a social macro made, we didn't have to click it everytime.

It was /meditate. Doesn't work on P99 yet.

[Midoo]

I play Shaman. Canni dancing would be horribly uncomfortable if I had to time a spellbook button AND a pixel perfect mouse click along with sitting down within a tiny window of time.

From what I read auto-medding came out 4 months into Kunark but there was a /meditate command we could macro. I'm sure the devs already have a lot on their hands and the Titanium client isn't exactly flexible but I consider this to be a priority.

[Tecmos Deception]

Just fyi, you can bind spellbook to a key, and it also remembers the window position, so you can put it where the button is easy to click, and bind it to your normal sit key.

That makes it easier, but not easy.

I positioned my spellbook so the meditate button was over top of the "Main Chat" text in my main chat window so I had a quick reference on where to move my mouse towards as I was hitting my spellbook key.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Just fyi, you can bind spellbook to a key, and it also remembers the window position, so you can put it where the button is easy to click, and bind it to your normal sit key.

That makes it easier, but not easy.

this, makes it at least a bit less awful, as someone who is used to typing out all commands (im from MUDs), having a key or having med bound to sit, and then all u gotta do is click med.


And yes, during classic when u opened the book u immediately med. you never had to click med. However this must be to the client or something, or the massive amount of work to fix. either way. take what u can get folks. shits vlassic.

[Evets]

Get to level 35 and you just have to sit.

[Rick Sanchez]

I'd bet it's more mouse clicks than maxing tailoring.

/cringe tailoring lol

[bum3]

Anyone else think you should be required to play gems in order to meditate?

[Ivory]

Anyone else think you should be required to play gems in order to meditate?

And you only gain back mana when you clear a line....

Finally the best gems players shall have their day in the sun and be the most powerful casters the world has ever known!!!!

[El-Hefe]

Anyone else think you should be required to play gems in order to meditate?

I’m 100% in.

Gems is the real endgame.

[DiogenesThaDogg]

Get to level 35 and you just have to sit.

Excellent, I've found kiting to be challenging as a wizard when you can't sit for each med tick.

[Doktoor]

this, makes it at least a bit less awful, as someone who is used to typing out all commands (im from MUDs), having a key or having med bound to sit, and then all u gotta do is click med.


And yes, during classic when u opened the book u immediately med. you never had to click med. However this must be to the client or something, or the massive amount of work to fix. either way. take what u can get folks. shits vlassic.

This is incorrect as the post with the patch message points out. In 1999 and in to 2000, you had to click the ned button every time you sat down. It was changed after a while as noted above.

The old macro was

/sit
/meditate

Which was so much better than what we have now, which is a lot of mouse work.

[silo32]

i bound the book to a hotkey 1-6

had to click meditate every time.... did that for 35 lvls now i can just sit?

I do notice tho that if you open the spell book and swap out spells that the meditate button can still be pressed in, can anyone confirm you are actually meditating. I thought the button is suppose to be perma pressed in 35+

i might ticket this

[vordrax]

I play Shaman. Canni dancing would be horribly uncomfortable if I had to time a spellbook button AND a pixel perfect mouse click along with sitting down within a tiny window of time.

From what I read auto-medding came out 4 months into Kunark but there was a /meditate command we could macro. I'm sure the devs already have a lot on their hands and the Titanium client isn't exactly flexible but I consider this to be a priority.

I hit 24 on my Shammy. This is the first Shaman I've played, so take anything I say with a grain of salt. But so far canni dancing hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be. I have hotkey 2 set up to cast Canni and then hotkey 3 set up to sit and open the book. I have my spellbook parked in a specific place. It takes a second to reorient myself if it's been a couple of minutes since I did it, but once you get into the groove it's not a big deal.

The only thing I'd say that really bothers me about it is it makes it harder to pay attention to what's going on around me, including my group's health. Not impossible, but requires more mental bandwidth than I'm used to giving to my normally chill shammy.

EDIT: I'd say that the thing that makes it harder to tell what's going on is that, not only do you have to hit canni (which fizzles way more often than I expected it would), open book, manually click meditate button, but then you have to watch for the tick, which seems to be weirdly inconsistent, at least on this server (I never played Blue, I did play Live but it was never something I paid attention to before.) Like you'll see your health jump up, back down. Sometimes I see my mana tick up twice with about half a second to a second between. So I THINK I'm doing ok but it's hard to tell, and requires way more focus than I wish it did.

[listur]

I have hotkey 2 set up to cast Canni and then hotkey 3 set up to sit and open the book.

You could save a bit of work if you make a macro with:

/stand
/pause ##, /cast # (Add this line again if you are able to cast twice between ticks.)
/book


I have never played a Shammy and don't know the specifics of canna dancing, but I don't see why that wouldn't work. Should take you down to 2 clicks, just the macro button and med button.

[vordrax]

You could save a bit of work if you make a macro with:

/stand
/pause ##, /cast # (Add this line again if you are able to cast twice between ticks.)
/book


I have never played a Shammy and don't know the specifics of canna dancing, but I don't see why that wouldn't work. Should take you down to 2 clicks, just the macro button and med button.

Unfortunately fizzles kill that macro. My canni button does stand though!

[Modwolf]

Keybind the book, make canni slot 1 and get a spyglass. While it is more work the time frame to click button isn't hard. You cant double canni like before tho.

[listur]

Do you fizzle often enough to make it not worth saving a keystroke all the time? Seems like once my skills are maxed I rarely fizzle, but could be level/stats related.

Just spitballing, but would something like this work?

/stand
/pause x, /cast y (Where x is the cooldown refresh of a fizzle. 10 maybe?)
/pause xx, /cast y (Where xx is the cast time +3 of the canni)
/book

It would make your macro take a fizzle timer longer, but should still be well within the 6 second tick. This would only be useful if you can't normally get 2 canni's between ticks, and if the cast time of Canni is less than 3.5ish seconds.

Might not be horrible useful, but now I'm interested in trying since I have never build a macro around a fizzle chance :P

[aaezil]

So many kiddies whining. At least you dont have to stare at the spellbook filling your entire screen to med like real classic eq.

[vordrax]

So many kiddies whining. At least you dont have to stare at the spellbook filling your entire screen to med like real classic eq.

Already put in my time haha.

[JHTheisen]

This is the only post in this thread that matters.

Doesn't this imply that there should be a /meditate command and should be able to be included in a social macro?

[tabias16]

AUGUST 23, 2000

/meditate causes you to sit down, open your spellbook, and begin meditation.

[listur]

AUGUST 23, 2000

/meditate causes you to sit down, open your spellbook, and begin meditation.


Whether the patch notes say it or not, I absolutely do not believe that /meditate was in the game for only 1 week. Also, all the other commands from the Aug 23rd patch notes are in the game. Why selectively make /meditate not work?

[vordrax]

AUGUST 23, 2000

/meditate causes you to sit down, open your spellbook, and begin meditation.

This "patch" also says it added the following commands:

/help will now display emotes, guild commands, and normal commands separately.

/sit will cause your character to sit. "/sit off" will cause your character to stand.

"/cast #" (where # is 1 to 8) will cast the spell memorized in the corresponding slot.

"/book #" (where # is the even displayed page number divided by 2) will take you to the corresponding page of your spell book. For instance, to flip to page 27/28, type "/book 14".

"/doability #" (where # is 1 to 10) will fire the specified ability. Abilities 1-6 are those that are set on the "Abilities" page; Numbers 7-10 represent those that are set on the "Combat Skills" page.

/whotarget can be typed to do a /who on the targeted PC.

"/language #" (where # is a number corresponding to the desired language) selects the chat language to use in general communication.

"/language help" displays a list of available languages and their corresponding number. "/language" alone displays the current language.

/meditate causes you to sit down, open your spellbook, and begin meditation.


Are we sure these commands didn't exist prior to this? Do we need to remove /sit? /language (I don't even know how you'd change language without it)? /cast? We're SURE these commands weren't available for over a year?

[Doktoor]

Doesn't this imply that there should be a /meditate command and should be able to be included in a social macro?

Yes! And it would be classic AND would make gameplay better.