So, were a few days in? Thinking of rerolling? Already rerolled?

[Cen]

I might. Who knows. I might condense my Ranger/Cleric combo into just a Druid, and be part of the Druid army. Or just a Cleric.

All I know is, the life of a Ranger is a hard ass one. I will probably try a few more days to press on, but that 40% is real. I'm only level 12, and i've been wasting way too much time playing.

The real difficulty isn't so much the penalty alone, but the drama it brings. Ive only ever been demonstrably denied once outright for a Rogue that I know of. Also, two other groups got angry over a Ranger being in their group making the leveling slower. Some bickering has broken out and I get concerned that will make it tougher to find groups with anyone who got involved after, etc. This is compounded by the minor camp issues that come up from overpopulation, unrelated to the class, but adds difficulty to groups. Most of my groups have been outdoor though. Dungeons are a crapshoot right now.

Couple things changing my mind:

As a Druid I know automatically i'd be around level 15 I believe if I performed as I did on the Ranger with the experience totals, but the kit is a little easier to solo with too starting at 14.

As a Cleric everyone will want me and its still a fun class for me to play (I like all roles basically), and im sure any bickering will be forgotten easily ;D

So I might reroll. I might not.

Anyone run into issues with your initial class choice?

[bubur]

sry to enable your altohalism. it's a good idea to stay with your one char, but i imagine its getting to be a good time to be a cleric

'first wave' imo is still in full effect, so things are overcamped.. but pretty soon the traditional needs for tank and main healer will be pronounced and every camp will have a group ready to invite

would b a fun journey to the top as a cleric in groups in the 'second wave'

[Chortles Snort|eS]

me miGht hAv 2 plAy alT soOnEr deN me thot
big RiP

[kaluppo]

I have a high elf cleric and wood elf druid and both classes are overly represented right now in Gfay. Clerics are great if you can devote the time to grouping because after lvl 10 they suck bad at soloing. At least Druids can rock the solo 1-60 if needed to. They get better at it as they level up due to animal charms, dots and quad kite spells.

Every group likes 1 tank, 1 healer and 1 CC. That leaves three slots for DPS. Monks and rangers get dps or pulling spot. So I would only be a ranger if one I didnt mind the hybrid penalty and I likeed pulling because you will be asked to a lot. But man is it nice being able to fear kite solo as a ranger along with sow and invis.

Of course rogues are most wanted of all. Every group loves to have more than one of them, guilds love to get as many as they can get and you don't have the groups lives in your hands the way pullers and healers do.

[solleks]

much respect to the druid army

[Fireblade7]

This thread is making me want to start my rogue now... I’ve already started over once DE Cleric to a halfling Druid. Although I am having fun, I wish spells weren’t so expensive. Already have his name and everything, oyyyy!

[silo32]

380 druids online right now

could use a few more clerics, rogues even warriors

or be a snowflake and stay ranger

you will enjoy the guised ranger more than anything I promise you this

[FungusTrooper]

im enjoying being part of the dru army

enjoying being a daniel a lot more tho

[Bazia]

i only didnt pick ranger because OP kept flaunting he was on the forums

i conceded and now you better finish the deal

[Cen]

I do enjoy the pulling and kind-of-tanking ive been doing, but right now im in full leather and need to upgrade to banded asap.

I will keep at it for now ;P

[Jibartik]

lol chortles big rip I watched the clips and they were beautiful much more valuable than a level 50

OP your ranger is my hero I hope he lives on but if you want I'll show u where I burried Dijin.

[Cen]

lol chortles big rip I watched the clips and they were beautiful much more valuable than a level 50

OP your ranger is my hero I hope he lives on but if you want I'll show u where I burried Dijin.

What are you doing instead of necro? :D

[Jibartik]

Same necro haha, I been waiting to do necro for like 2 years lol I almost went gnome but again been imagining this human necro for so long.

But I am much happier as Innorruk even though it makes no difference like whatsoever.

[Wenai]

me miGht hAv 2 plAy alT soOnEr deN me thot
big RiP
Chartles Manson the Troll Shadowknight.
What are you doing instead of necro? :D
A much less wise Necromancer.

[Cen]

Same necro haha, I been waiting to do necro for like 2 years lol I almost went gnome but again been imagining this human necro for so long.

But I am much happier as Innorruk even though it makes no difference like whatsoever.

I feel that way about SK's. I always feel like being Inny is right since the epic is Innoruuk's Curse :p

The character I always wanted to play as a kid was a DE SK but I knew back then that its hard to go in on a non big race SK statistically and slam etc

[Danger]

I feel that way about SK's. I always feel like being Inny is right since the epic is Innoruuk's Curse :p

The character I always wanted to play as a kid was a DE SK but I knew back then that its hard to go in on a non big race SK statistically and slam etc

http://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_the_dead

is a good reason to roll DE.

IDK how item recharging and shit works on blue/green and if you guys could recharge lockets of escape or not but the ring is rechargeable via a 10 gold quest hand in.

[Jibartik]

A much less wise Necromancer.


Haha you know what was funny I was in the sewers thinking "wtf my swimming going up so slow for" but didnt even dream it was a result of what it actually was lol


I feel that way about SK's. I always feel like being Inny is right since the epic is Innoruuk's Curse :p

The character I always wanted to play as a kid was a DE SK but I knew back then that its hard to go in on a non big race SK statistically and slam etc

I think getting a full set of rubi could be a fun quest, and a guise for your ranger. Imagine how sick you'd look for like 6 months like that.

DE SK is super cool too, a Human Sk is another one of my bucket list characters, maybe Purple99 is where we roll those two :cool:

[Cen]

Haha you know what was funny I was in the sewers thinking "wtf my swimming going up so slow for" but didnt even dream it was a result of what it actually was lol




I think getting a full set of rubi could be a fun quest, and a guise for your ranger. Imagine how sick you'd look for like 6 months like that.

DE SK is super cool too, a Human Sk is another one of my bucket list characters, maybe Purple99 is where we roll those two :cool:

Yes! I am Saving my SK character for a new pvp server if it happens. SK's (and wizards) were amazing on Rallos Zek

[Jibartik]

IDK how item recharging and shit works on blue/green and if you guys could recharge lockets of escape or not but the ring is rechargeable via a 10 gold quest hand in.

iirc it is trade able usable from inventory and I believe the faction is atainable by anyone with a DE mask. Its an amazing item though I wonder if anyone has got one on green? My faction was not high enough at all lmao human necro is a very weird experience.

[Grimstrike]

I rolled a paladin back in 1999 and I rolled a paladin on Blue in 2013, now I rolled a paladin on Green. What is wrong with me??

[Pilgrimzero]

Enjoying my dwarf rogue so far. Really wish I had backstab though

[Soothsayer]

Having plenty of fun on my level 14 gnome warrior so far. I've been using Bull Smasher and a Minotaur Battle Axe and I have very little trouble holding aggro so far. Really looking forward to getting double attack at level 15 and trying out Oasis for XP.

Another goal is to get some solid magic weapons ASAP for Unrest - PGT and possibly a good combine weapon, or if I can get one early enough, langseax.

[dekova]

I The real difficulty isn't so much the penalty alone, but the drama it brings. Ive only ever been demonstrably denied once outright for a Rogue that I know of. Also, two other groups got angry over a Ranger being in their group making the leveling slower. Some bickering has broken out and I get concerned that will make it tougher to find groups with anyone who got involved after, etc.

Some people are crazy.

I had fun duoing with you tonight, hope you enjoyed playing your ranger.

[Natewest1987]

Well. Interesting ideas here about first wave and second wave. To the OP - stick with the cleric. I started a Druid at launch and just refilled today to necro. Maybe it will change ( hopefully ) but groups are so hell bent on getting pet classes. Have a very different time getting groups as the Druid, and trust me, nothing will piss you off worse than not being able to get a group and then finding several camps being duo’d by Necros and mages who don’t want to split their xp. lol.

Maybe I’ll revisit the Druid sometime. I really wanted to atleast get to try charm animal, but soloing high greens would literally take me a century.

[Natewest1987]

Oh, also, re: the hybrid penalty. That prejudice is maybe a lot more common than you think. I’ve seen people being out right rude to hybrids and having no problems with telling them why.

[gilfaethwy]

Try being a wizard. It’s like you have cooties when trying to find a group.

[Widan]

Try being a wizard. It’s like you have cooties when trying to find a group.

Find a pet class soloing thats higher level than you. i.e. at hell level 3 find an level 4 pet class. They will get much more exp this way so this gives them incentive to group with you.

[wildstar]

de necro halfling warrior

my halfling is still looking for a bind in kaladim. so i kinda just afk a lot until i get that done lol

[Archythagoras]

I played druid till 8 then rerolled a wizard cause I wanted to wear robes.

Is that dumb?

#Fasionquest

Good news is I dropped that dumb idea and went back to Druid.

[Jimjam]

I played human bard til 3 then rerolled to human bard cos mith marr seemed more fun than zek; all those hymns and psalms! And imbuing my group with Valour (MR) so they don't run from dragons!

[fortior]

reroll, uggos

[Deathrydar]

Oh, also, re: the hybrid penalty. That prejudice is maybe a lot more common than you think. I’ve seen people being out right rude to hybrids and having no problems with telling them why.

Those players won't last.

[Tecmos Deception]

Those players won't last.

Did you play on blue?

People complained about grouping with (and some even refused to group with too many) hybrids up until the day they removed the penalty. Which was, of course, a LOT longer time period than the penalty will exist on green. Of course "those players" will last.

Reality doesn't adjust to your wishes just because you state your wishes out loud as if they were true.

[magusfire24]

I have a high elf cleric and wood elf druid and both classes are overly represented right now in Gfay. Clerics are great if you can devote the time to grouping because after lvl 10 they suck bad at soloing. At least Druids can rock the solo 1-60 if needed to. They get better at it as they level up due to animal charms, dots and quad kite spells.

Every group likes 1 tank, 1 healer and 1 CC. That leaves three slots for DPS. Monks and rangers get dps or pulling spot. So I would only be a ranger if one I didnt mind the hybrid penalty and I likeed pulling because you will be asked to a lot. But man is it nice being able to fear kite solo as a ranger along with sow and invis.

Of course rogues are most wanted of all. Every group loves to have more than one of them, guilds love to get as many as they can get and you don't have the groups lives in your hands the way pullers and healers do.


Rangers can't panic animal till Velious actually so ya. Face tanking and root rotting with arrows or kiting with them and snare is about all you got solo.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

I’ve learned (again) how extreme the TRL SK XP penalty is
In just one evening of DE CLR session I was able to approach my 1.5 weekend TRL SK gains

ThX 4 the thotS & 👏🏽🙏🏽 lads

[fugazi]

15 wiz here. The prejudice is real and there are plenty of assholes who won't bother grouping with me. Lucky for me, there are enough cool people about that hitting places like Befallen and Najena isn't a problem, but yeah.

I got to say, though, that people are pretty goddamn bad at this decades-old game. The lack of knowledge, whether it be basal or more advanced, is simply astounding. Then again, it's nothing to be proud of to be good at this particular elf sim.

[Gustoo]

As a ranger, I face meleed and then arrow kited until mob died.

Would do again.

[Barkingturtle]

Struggling here but it wouldn't be Classic if I wasn't vacillating between bard and ranger. Have both to 4 but am seriously considering a reroll to monk, rogue or warrior--something with less of an experience penalty and more of an incentive to group. Already feel myself slipping into the place where I do nothing but solo and I swore this time would be different.

[Gustoo]

Play the bard and group.r

[Deathrydar]

Play the bard and group.r

[Aaramis]

I'm torn between sticking out the Troll SK (fml xp penalty) to try for a Guise, or the sad realization he probably won't get one and maybe go with a different class (Rogue).

Issue with Rogue is I'm sitting around LFG, it's essentially wasted time as he can't solo worth shit.

Gah.

[fugazi]

Play the Troll SK. Be that next level mix of cool and stupid.

[Gustoo]

You can get to level 30 and get a guise Aaramis, for sure.

You got a lot of time before it is nerfed.

But if you're torn and arent into it, just move on.

[Vexenu]

Still six months before legacy items removed. Plenty of time to level. It's just a matter of blocking off enough time to wait out the list once you're there.

[Gustoo]

Exactly. The guise is much easier to get than the manastone. Since it can't be resold.

If you like the sk, be the SK.

[Aaramis]

Be that next level mix of cool and stupid.

I already do that as my job, not sure I want to repeat in a game :p

[Sizar]

Made my first wizard, got to nearly level 6 hating every minute of it. Took his 15 plat and bought a Bull Smasher while xfering over a full set of cloth to my first every cleric. Now level 11 cleric and loving it. Just wish I didnt waste those like 18 hours or something on the wizard.

[osf]

I rolled a dark elf enchanter. Got to level 3.5 on release day. Then rerolled as I decided I wanted to put more points into CHA instead of INT for this guy, so created a new dark elf enchanter with the same name and got to level 5 a couple days later.

Then decided I wanted to try a high elf enchanter instead, since I have already had dark elf on live EQ...

So, I'm now level 3 in GFay and oh, my goodness, GFAY sucks compared to Nektulos!

[oldhead]

three toons so far... getting behind the curve tho... no more level 1s.

Need to focus.

[Cuktus]

I will roll an alt after the first wave is pushed well past early mobs. Fighting over infected rats and decaying skeletons was not fun.

[Deathrydar]

I created a rogue on Friday but I decided I will wait until everything clears out and the casuals are on to make it easier to get into a group.

[magusfire24]

I myself will probably play more serious this weekend. Should be a bit more calm hopefully.

[Bazia]

theres literally no tanks boys 10+

[Deathrydar]

theres literally no tanks boys 10+

Might be time for me to create that Shadow Knight I used to play back in 99!!

[Lamil]

theres literally no tanks boys 10+

I keep debating an Ogre SK but I just don't think I want that kind of punishment in my life right now.

[magusfire24]

Might be time for me to create that Shadow Knight I used to play back in 99!!

Go troll SK for that almost negative exp gain LOL

what around 60% penalty for Troll SK?

[drakkan]

Lol@ the druid army - If you're having the discussion about alts, everyone playing a druid right now is "maining" their soon to be alt. While painful to main the melee class you actually want to play, I've never understood the "play a class you don't fully enjoy in order to be able to twink the class you actually want to play later." Seems like there is a good bit of that mindset. I couldn't imagine playing that many hours of a character I don't fully enjoy in order to better gear a class I actually want to play, on top of releveling!

Earning the gear as you level, especially on this type of fresh server seems far more enjoyable.

[drakkan]

Go troll SK for that almost negative exp gain LOL

what around 60% penalty for Troll SK?

68% to be exact and ogre SK is 61%.

[Jimjam]

I saw my first twink today. Level 1 paladin in full banded wielding some kind of falchion and a chitin shield. Boy was I jelly!

[Aaramis]

I saw my first twink today. Level 1 paladin in full banded wielding some kind of falchion and a chitin shield. Boy was I jelly!

I've seen quite a few level 5-8s running around in full bronze so far, that's about it.

[Graahle]

Big casual Human Ranger here just tryna make it out of Qeynos Hills when I do login. Thinking I should just run straight to catacombs and see what's up.

[Aaramis]

Lucked out with a completely clear day. Awesome time to log on, get some levels and feel refreshed about choosing SK.

Been LFG for 6 hours now. Swamp is full of people that don't want to group. Frustrated, logged onto the Rogue in Faydwer, and all the groups are full. FML. *sigh*

Shoulda rolled Necro or Druid apparently!

[Bazia]

im putting my rogue on backburner until tanks can make it past level 5

[laodaron]

If I reroll, it's definitely a no mana class. I'll go Warrior or Rogue likely, maybe a Monk. Or I'll lean into the penalty and go Troll SK.

Or else I'm going to roll something that's a master solo class. I'm a Shaman right now, in Everfrost, and at any given time, there's about 25 Shaman LFG.

[Raclen]

Clerics are pretty solid, good for leveling, soloing and raids. Their mana efficiency is about 90% of a wizard when fighting undead and you can tank/melee pretty good on them too. If you solo you are just restricted to undead.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

The noobie zones are a NIGHTMARE now that mob spawns are reduced to normal rates. Shame that people who missed launch weekend and are already behind the curve and being further punished!

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Lucked out with a completely clear day. Awesome time to log on, get some levels and feel refreshed about choosing SK.

Been LFG for 6 hours now. Swamp is full of people that don't want to group. Frustrated, logged onto the Rogue in Faydwer, and all the groups are full. FML. *sigh*

Shoulda rolled Necro or Druid apparently!

Yup it's DISGUSTING trying to play a melee. No groups are inviting melee characters of any kind. Really sad and EXTREMELY unclassic.

Funny to see the people who are happy that Mages got nerfed while theyre playing Druid Chanters and Necros themselves lol

[skipdog]

Yup it's DISGUSTING trying to play a melee. No groups are inviting melee characters of any kind. Really sad and EXTREMELY unclassic.

Funny to see the people who are happy that Mages got nerfed while theyre playing Druid Chanters and Necros themselves lol

What? lol

can we just delete this guy already?

[Raclen]

Yup it's DISGUSTING trying to play a melee. No groups are inviting melee characters of any kind. Really sad and EXTREMELY unclassic.

Funny to see the people who are happy that Mages got nerfed while theyre playing Druid Chanters and Necros themselves lol

It isn't that people don't want melee it is just the heavy amount of players that made pure casters. A melee requires a priest. I made a rogue, I require a priest and a melee in group. If you run up to a group with mages/necros/enchanters/wizards and want in you won't work in that group.

[Cen]

I popped in today and got depressed at a little bit of LFG time and failed soloing time. Got some banded now but.. ;D Great duo last night with Buko in lavastorm. Duoing with priests as a ranger has been the best groups i've done.

I need to just not go so hard at this and take it slow..

I will probably chill out for today and not try to play much

[Robersonroger38]

Was lvl 4 Troll warrior... loved the regen just have to much solo lust in me..rerolled Gnome Necro lvl 11 soloing killing yellows and killed a couple reds . Fear kiting, just wanted to see if could do it really Lol, level 12 spells in bags . Sitting on 48p !!! Yea Glad I rerolled definitely!!

Necros
Only
Get stronger
By level.

[Cen]

Im debating doing a DE Warrior instead. Why fight for legacy fashionquest when you can get it at level 1 ;p

More so im just enjoying the asskicking aspect of the ranger over the magic, and I like Dark Elves.

[Jibartik]

Im debating doing a DE Warrior instead. Why fight for legacy fashionquest when you can get it at level 1 ;p

More so im just enjoying the asskicking aspect of the ranger over the magic, and I like Dark Elves.

The only real reason I want to play a ranger is for pulling MM with harmony but even still I think that would be more fun on blue cus on green it will be empty anyway. oops I was going to try to convince you to stick with it but oh no.

[Cen]

Only other issue is warrior gonna be just as hard to find groups with, no solo there ;p ah im taking a couple days to play other stuff while it cools down