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Nirgon
10-27-2019, 04:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ImZSgcV.png

Telin
10-27-2019, 05:22 PM
They should con scowls, but not really attack, right?

Sunderfury
10-27-2019, 05:30 PM
They should con scowls, but not really attack, right?

Well, attack everything regardless of faction (AggroPC), and con scowling during invisible still but not attack

Explained here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288904&highlight=invis

Nirgon
10-27-2019, 05:36 PM
To my recollection, SG/HGs always saw invis and attacked

They'd attack druid ring merchants, sro merchants etc too (ancient cyclops would suicide to the DEs in sro camp also)

Sunderfury
10-27-2019, 06:27 PM
To my recollection, SG/HGs always saw invis and attacked

They'd attack druid ring merchants, sro merchants etc too (ancient cyclops would suicide to the DEs in sro camp also)

Not sure if any actually did, or people thought they did. Is a confusing mechanic. Either way, evidence > recollection.

AggroPC flags don't exist on P99 at present, so not sure how Telin will flag things (maybe a chance to see invis)

Sundawg
10-27-2019, 08:56 PM
The sand giants would fight the sro merchants, verified on EQmac and fixed it here a few years ago along with some other npc vs npc stuff in that zone.

Nirgon
10-28-2019, 09:49 AM
Nothing on giants being see invisible mobs though? With EQ Mac being down, live is probably the only remaining thing to check. I'm sure they are still unchanged.

I'm certainly not trying to make them easier and thought this find was a gimme.

Nirgon
11-30-2019, 06:46 AM
Bump for Sand Giant

Sand Giant see invis (at the bottom flagged as see invis):
http://mqemulator.net/npc.php?id=35162

Also note they have 70 aggro radius instead of 55 like a spec

DMN
11-30-2019, 08:58 AM
To my recollection, SG/HGs always saw invis and attacked

They'd attack druid ring merchants, sro merchants etc too (ancient cyclops would suicide to the DEs in sro camp also)

Nope. They never actually saw through invis. Some ice giants and fire giants do. That's about it. That nightfall giant might see through invis. i don't remember. it was just one of those weird quirks like crocs in oasis always scowling but never attacking. He shouldn't even be in green right now, though. You are right about them attacking lots of things though. they would also attack the gnolls out in EK.

Nirgon
11-30-2019, 04:10 PM
Sand giant do

derpcake2
12-01-2019, 04:59 AM
Not sure if any actually did, or people thought they did. Is a confusing mechanic. Either way, evidence > recollection.

AggroPC flags don't exist on P99 at present, so not sure how Telin will flag things (maybe a chance to see invis)

Giants attacking merchants is (was?) happening on red.

Perhaps it was taken out because it is too easy to drag a giant to merchants, have them get it to low hp, and charm the giant to kill it for full gains.

soronil
12-01-2019, 07:47 AM
Sand giant do

You still havent posted any in era evidence, while in era evidence to the contrary can be found here:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288904&highlight=invis