Green has ruined p99 for me

[kaluppo]

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of green and was looking forward to it. But right now Green has ruined the blue server which until yesterday I loved. Blues population has been cut in half if not more than half. I spent all night last night trying to get an unrest group to no avail. 7 hours of LFG. There was not enough people to group with and the ones there are training everyone else. I died 3 times with no rez and lost my level on my ranger. He was 23 and now back to 22.

EC tunnel on blue is deserted for the most part. I just sat at WC rings for 15 minutes by myself. No druids porting, no players massing to go hunt somewhere. It was strange to say the least.

As for green I knew I had to stay away on day one. That's why I was trying to get a group in unrest on blue. 2600+ people all fighting over bats and skeletons. I thought it would be better tonight cause peeps would have leveled beyond newbie zone yard trash. 300 people in Gfay and pulled two mobs in a 30 mminute span and both mobs were stolen/KSd by another player.

I can't get XP on one server cause it's over-populated and I can't get XP on the other server cause it's under-populated. So I have decided to dust off the old PS4 and give P99 a break. Not for good, just until I see either Blues population hit 800+ again during peak times or Greens get down to maybe 1500.

Not much of rant cause its nobody's fault. Shit happens and the population is what it is for the moment. I'll keep an eye on the server population to see how it's progressing and I hope to see it level out on one server or the other within a month.

[baakss]

Wtf then why can’t I find pained soul camp open on blue. :(

[baakss]

Real talk: it’ll calm down dude. It’s been one say, people are exciting about green. Let everyone have some fun. :)

[kaluppo]

Wtf then why can’t I find pained soul camp open on blue. :(

That's the other thing. Cash camps are still being well camped. AC camp in OOT is still farmed heavy although I dunno why if no ones is in EC to buy the MQ , LOL.

And I guarantee those poepple still locking down blue cash camps are playing green at the same time on another window.

Fun times, lol.

[kaluppo]

Real talk: it’ll calm down dude. It’s been one say, people are exciting about green. Let everyone have some fun. :)

I think so too. I am hopeful that green will be more playable within a months time. 2600 people were on Green last night and thats more that double what blue normally had at peak time on Friday night. I'd say 1500 people who were not playing P99 a week ago came back for green launch. Some will burn out and others will make record time getting to 50.

I work night's mon-thurs so I get home at 5 am. That might be a nice off peak time to log into green and solo with a Druid I created there. So maybe I will only be semi-retired for now.

[Donkey Hotay]

300 people in Gfay and pulled two mobs in a 30 mminute span and both mobs were stolen/KSd by another player.

I don't really understand this complaint. I've been able to camp single spawn without issue in Nektulos and we had 230 at peak. I see a ton of reddit-type people running around like the spawns are magically materializing but given your 60s, you should know how the game works; find a spawn point and camp it. The spawns aren't even slow. If you aren't a soloer, over every rise lies another full group with unlooted kills littering their campsite. I see folks advertising for more non-stop.

Are you even trying to play?

[MiRo2]

I found a group in less than 10 minutes on Red tonight with less than 20 people on the server, not sure how you couldn't find a group on a server with 400 people on it in 7 hours?

Were you weren't actually trying?

[kaluppo]

I found a group in less than 10 minutes on Red tonight with less than 20 people on the server, not sure how you couldn't find a group on a server with 400 people on it in 7 hours?

Were you weren't actually trying?

I have a LFG hot key (/ooc 23 Ranger LFG). I would send that ooc once every 5-10 minutes. Now I should clarify that I was not sitting in unrest for 7 hours straight. I would sit there for 30-45 minutes doing my lfg hotkey and then someone in guild needed a port or rez from my lvl 60's. But I would always go back and try again after that was done.

It was just a bad night in unrest. 400 people does not mean 400 people actively grouping. Some were just soloing or holding down cash camps. A few were in EC tunnel although I am shocked how long you can be in EC now before even seeing an auction. I tried again tonight to get an unrest group but no one answered my /ooc and I got trained again, LOL.

It is what it is.

[MiRo2]

Were you weren't

I must be drunk, but it doesn't change the fact I quickly found a group to grind exp for several hours with.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Thanks for reminding us that you can’t please everyone. Crazy that thousands of people can find something to do, but you can’t, am I right?

[kaluppo]

I don't really understand this complaint. I've been able to camp single spawn without issue in Nektulos and we had 230 at peak. I see a ton of reddit-type people running around like the spawns are magically materializing but given your 60s, you should know how the game works; find a spawn point and camp it. The spawns aren't even slow. If you aren't a soloer, over every rise lies another full group with unlooted kills littering their campsite. I see folks advertising for more non-stop.

Are you even trying to play?

I am trying but I admit I have never seen anything like this. 300+ people in a newbie zone is uncharted waters for me. So while I am used to playing, I am not used to not finding mobs to kill. I joined original EQ in OCT 2000 so by then Kunark was out with velious about to launch, server economy was established and all newbie zones had plenty of mobs for people to kill. Finding a group was not always easy but finding a mob to solo was never a problem.

I didn't discover P99 until November 2018. So obviously by then I had the same situation. Established economy and no shortage of newbie yard trash.

I'll try playing during non-peak hours on green. Probably have better luck. Fortunately I am used to working nights so I am wide awake at 3am, Im used to sleeping from 7 am till 2 pm. I'll do some early morning grinds maybe.

[shuklak]

It's a good game.

[gundumbwing]

This thread feels more like a blog about the OPs sleeping schedule.

[Nirgon]

Just wanna honk a horn in dis clown's face

[imsorryGMs]

7 people in KC on blue tonight. Everyone please stay on green 😉

[branamil]

You could log off and do something else instead of crying about your 4-polygon legolas

[Gustoo]

That's the other thing. Cash camps are still being well camped. AC camp in OOT is still farmed heavy although I dunno why if no ones is in EC to buy the MQ , LOL.

And I guarantee those poepple still locking down blue cash camps are playing green at the same time on another window.

Fun times, lol.

Now youz know how red is. People need the fresh every once in a while. Classic content that spanned less than 3 years for over 8 years on a pvp server is pretty intense, let alone over 10 years on blue server.

[Gustoo]

7 people in KC on blue tonight. Everyone please stay on green 😉

Good availability of no pop server on red for this attitude. I think fungi permanent camped (who needs all these fungis??) and lodizel.

[Vivix]

Blue was a test server. Maybe play on the real server now.

[Champion_Standing]

RIP P99

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Sorry about the beta server

[Valeriya]

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of green and was looking forward to it. But right now Green has ruined the blue server which until yesterday I loved. Blues population has been cut in half if not more than half. I spent all night last night trying to get an unrest group to no avail. 7 hours of LFG. There was not enough people to group with and the ones there are training everyone else. I died 3 times with no rez and lost my level on my ranger. He was 23 and now back to 22.

EC tunnel on blue is deserted for the most part. I just sat at WC rings for 15 minutes by myself. No druids porting, no players massing to go hunt somewhere. It was strange to say the least.

As for green I knew I had to stay away on day one. That's why I was trying to get a group in unrest on blue. 2600+ people all fighting over bats and skeletons. I thought it would be better tonight cause peeps would have leveled beyond newbie zone yard trash. 300 people in Gfay and pulled two mobs in a 30 mminute span and both mobs were stolen/KSd by another player.

I can't get XP on one server cause it's over-populated and I can't get XP on the other server cause it's under-populated. So I have decided to dust off the old PS4 and give P99 a break. Not for good, just until I see either Blues population hit 800+ again during peak times or Greens get down to maybe 1500.

Not much of rant cause its nobody's fault. Shit happens and the population is what it is for the moment. I'll keep an eye on the server population to see how it's progressing and I hope to see it level out on one server or the other within a month.

Nobody cares about blue anymore.. stop crying

[Wallicker]

Join a guild on green, group up, send tells, move to a less populated area, pick up a tradeskill, run some quests for good classic items. idk there’s so much shit to do on green figure it out man. this is the most population I’ve ever seen on this MMORPG that’s meant to have interaction with other players and I’m loving it!

[Valeriya]

Its easy finding groups and killing mobs. People make it sound like your fight over mobs cause its so populated but thats not true

[WaffleztheAndal]

Green is fine, a huge success imo.

[Cyph]

How I see it, there are a few things going on here:
1) Server population changes are impacting (changes in) game play. Blue is far more quieter than normal and finding a group is more difficult than it used to be. Green is excessively busy, which is to be expected, but insinuating that camping a single spawn is the way the game was meant to be played is a bit of a stretch
2) The competition on Green may be bringing out some toxic behaviour (the demeanour of some of the comments here, and what I've read elsewhere, gives direction to that)
3) What will happen with server populations long term? Well, we'll find out soon enough. Personally, I think Green will level out (lower than what it is now) and Blue will likely return to a level near to what it was, but not as much
4) If Blue was just a test server, why not get rid of it? Is Green just a test server for the next progression server/GreenV2?

Personally, I'm used to playing offpeak due to my geographical location; it has always been difficult for me and likely will continue to be difficult. I play different characters that suit a) the playtime, b) population (if I need to find a group), and c) what interests me at the time. Leveling my warrior is a lot more difficult than the necro :)

There are people who decided to stay on Blue. Perhaps due to the quality of life improvements or the time invested. Others want to try Green, or never played EQ back when it launched, and perhaps were ex-Blue players who came back. I think it will be interesting to take a look back at this thread in a couple of months time. All the same, the game is still fun (and sometimes a break is needed, heck, I've been doing it on and off since the early days of P99).

[Cyph]

And sincerely, sorry that you had some bad experiences.

I've been thinking of firing up Outer Worlds on my PS4; picked it up and barely touched it (but what I did play seemed good).

[Barkingturtle]

Blue has like 340 people on right now at 10:25am EST.

For some perspective, when I started playing on Blue the population was under 300 during primetime.

I think we'll all be fine.

[Cyph]

Blue has like 340 people on right now at 10:25am EST.

For some perspective, when I started playing on Blue the population was under 300 during primetime.


I was thinking that there were times I recalled it being quite low as well (lower than this population that is).

I'm still thinking that in a couple of months people will jump back to Blue. We'll see ;)

[Spock2020]

I think it's more a question of which zone has people on blue then any other thing.You can just going anywhere and finding group you have to be more selective. I suggest to do a /who all in different zone before traveling to see if that gonna work .

[Tecmos Deception]

Real talk: it’ll calm down dude. It’s been one say, people are exciting about green. Let everyone have some fun. :)

It already IS calm in some places. Gfay? Not a great idea. But lots of folks would rather complain than make a classic level 1 journey to a less-crowded spot.

I spent 20+ minutes in innothule yesterday, 2 minute run from grobb, without seeing another player, with more dark blues than I could kill. Groups with plenty ro kill in sro. Groups doing fine in front of and even inside uguk. I'm sure innothule isn't the only place to exp at 1-4 that isn't a nightmare.

[WaffleztheAndal]

Blue has served it's purpose. It's now such an inflated monstrosity of a classic server, Green was long overdue and VERY welcome.

[Fammaden]

I think it's more a question of which zone has people on blue then any other thing.You can just going anywhere and finding group you have to be more selective. I suggest to do a /who all in different zone before traveling to see if that gonna work .

Not to mention looking for people in your level range and sending tells to join or form groups, instead of standing around unrest /ooc'ing LFG over and over at the same handful of people for a half hour.....this shit is like EQ101 man.

[Fammaden]

It already IS calm in some places. Gfay? Not a great idea. But lots of folks would rather complain than make a classic level 1 journey to a less-crowded spot.

I spent 20+ minutes in innothule yesterday, 2 minute run from grobb, without seeing another player, with more dark blues than I could kill. Groups with plenty ro kill in sro. Groups doing fine in front of and even inside uguk. I'm sure innothule isn't the only place to exp at 1-4 that isn't a nightmare.

Eh, as someone who's been leveling a troll and agrees with you, the 60 to 80ish in the swamp is very different than 160 in BB/GFay/Steam. Where do they run to? Take a boat to Antonica and have effectively zero chance of getting a bind? (This is changing now but still have to find someone willing to take the time and mana to bind you.)

This is basically why I'm a shaman instead of a gnome necro right now though, which might be better in the long run for me anyway. But ogre/troll starting experience is a different animal than the rest of the world. The swamp and feerrot actually have out of the way stuff that the masses don't know to go camp. When there's no free skeletons in the entire freeport newbie yard your options are tanked.

[pogs4ever]

after playing green and having so much fun, i feel disgusted to have ever tracked a dragon on blue.

[Octopath]

Logged in blue this morning and specs in oasis were still camped.

[Lhord99]

From what I’ve gleaned raiding ToV and Hate the last 2 days, Blue is now the server for people with RL obligations, people with generally upper-middle to high-end toons they’ve not yet finished, but who also can’t afford the divorce to re-roll on Green.

Idk about you all, but I’m 1,000% okay with that. I’ve had some great person-to-person experiences on blue these last 2 days.

[Zal22]

If you really sat lfg in unrest on a hunter for 7 hours i pray for your sou

[mattydef]

Give it some time. The green hype will die down eventually and people will start logging back on blue, especially after guises and manastones stop dropping on green. It would be nice if green went down to 1500 and blue went back up to 800ish down the road.

[Wallicker]

Blue is Dead once the population starts to teeter, they will be releasing new content like planes then Kunark etc

[WaffleztheAndal]

No server run by Nilbog will ever go past Velious. He has stated this as fact.

[Zemus]

Blue is Dead once the population starts to teeter, they will be releasing new content like planes then Kunark etc

Does this mean we won’t be getting anymore AM guild thread bumps?

[Cyph]

Vanilla EQ is a different game to what it became in Kunark then Velious, regardless of the age of the server. Eventually it will once again become a case of entering planes, tracking dragons, etc, and depending on the population, may be even worse than Blue.

But yes, there definitely are issues with Blue, that being the age of the server and thus impact to the economy. It would be great if there was a holistic way to address this (without wiping the server or impacting active or near-term active players). Maybe something along the lines of the recent low level character wipes, but less low level.

What what Lhord99 said:
"From what I’ve gleaned raiding ToV and Hate the last 2 days, Blue is now the server for people with RL obligations, people with generally upper-middle to high-end toons they’ve not yet finished, but who also can’t afford the divorce to re-roll on Green."

Very true.

[Tyronius of Midnight]

OP is a sad pathetic little manlet.

[Bardp1999]

OP can I have your stuff?

[baakss]

Does this mean we won’t be getting anymore AM guild thread bumps?

Do they still post their weekly kill lists?

[solleks]

blue is like a dirty old pair of trousers its time to just go into costco and get some shiny new cargo shorts

[Wonkie]

turns out blue isnt fun when theres noone to deny pixels to

[pogs4ever]

turns out blue isnt fun when theres noone to deny pixels to

[Clazxiss]

turns out blue isnt fun when theres noone to deny pixels to

Also isn't fun when there is no one to show off the denied pixels to.

In the end, this what killed the Red server as well.

[Nirgon]

Also isn't fun when there is no one to show off the denied pixels to.

In the end, this what killed the Red server as well.

Eventually but not at first

I'll take it

[Gustoo]

Profound truths here.

[Gnec]

Didnt read op's post but im sure you can file it under WAAA

your level 23 go play green where the players are

[Gnec]

shit wait 22



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

[Uuruk]

This dude bitching about blues pop never endured playing on red for multiple years.

[AgentEpilot]

Who would wanna play on red

[Gozuk]

Blue is now the server for people with RL obligations

Nailed it. Green is a fucking blast but it cost me my family and job. Worth

[Lamil]

Lots of people don't seem to understand groups on Green. I usually find a spot people can find and just shout "lvl 5's lfg head here and lets kill stuff" 2 minutes later I usually have a full group and the grind is going. Gotta be a bit proactive

[Swish]

There was a time when red was getting numbers and it actually was around 280 a night, then a decision was made that because it wasn't seen to be struggling anymore they'd remove the XP bonus.

Next day: 70-80 pop, the casual guild (Red Dawn) of the time couldn't raid properly anymore... and though they did change it again, the numbers never really went back to a steady 250+

Like any server, it needs players to attract players... and that's blue's problem as well now. 2 people in Mistmoore on blue a couple of hours ago. It's become a raiding server, new p99 players aren't going to be buying your EC junk and the fat cats won't be selling much to the high end players - better to list it on the EC forum now and log in when you make a sale <3

Maybe people will get bored of green? Maybe not though, I made a warrior and its slow as hell without a healer but I'm enjoying that :D

[Mistle]

They won't get bored of green right now with the rush of everyone running around in noob gear at tiny levels.

When they are trying to break through the L40 hell by killing one dwarf in Butcherblock they waited in line for while knowing there is another 6 months until Kunark is released? Yeah, there'll be some people reconsidering their life choices at that point.

You people (the ones going to max on green) are crazy. Twice was enough. If it went past Velious maybe but ugh.

[Daloon]

"hows WoW"

it's fantastic, thank you. saw 400 people online Blue, hope ur all having fun.

[Valeriya]

Blue is dead...... So many people are in denial over it

[Bardp1999]

population in the 300's at 6:30 EST

[Valeriya]

It will contiune to plummet just wait

[Bazia]

stop bully blue

[cd288]

Blue is dead...... So many people are in denial over it

Why do we even have to argue about it? Everyone playing, on either Green or Blue, are fans of EQ and enjoy playing on P99. Who cares which server they are on? We don't need to be talking shit to each other just because you think they should be playing on your server.

[Valeriya]

I dont care what server they play on. Im just making a point blue is dead

[Valeriya]

https://imgur.com/5c1x8yw

Blue is dead

[Valeriya]

https://imgur.com/5c1x8yw

[Nirgon]

Blue is dead

[Vexor777]

Im going with blue is dead. Is raiding even fun on blue anymore?

[Valeriya]

Not really

[Raclen]

Well there is a better server available, Green, or you can go to Red and have every camp open.

[pogs4ever]

blue is dead.

[Khorza]

I don't really understanding trying to play Blue at this point unless you've been playing the same character for years, raid with the same people, and just trying to get a few more Vulak kills to complete your BIS.

You can die in Unrest as a level 23 Ranger on Green, so why do it on Blue?

[Valeriya]

230 people on blue right now and continuing to drop

[Nirgon]

230 people on blue right now and continuing to drop

[pogs4ever]

Yah no reason to play blue with average 300 with probably 800 on pop day

[mycoolrausch]

Green will solve blue's problem of 50 raid mobs with no instances by having 2 raid mobs with no instances lol

[bigjeff100]

No way blue is dead.. Everything will balance out in due time... Let the initial excitement run its course.

The people who came specifically to play green will begin to fizzle out over time..

People who came to green from blue will bounce back and forth depending on friends online/guild events and such..

And at the end of the day, all we know is that the plan was to roll green back into blue once the cycle is complete.. So blue will always be home :)

[Chortles Snort|eS]

it niCe dat Dey leaVe betA seRver Up!!

[gundumbwing]

No way blue is dead.. Everything will balance out in due time... Let the initial excitement run its course.

The people who came specifically to play green will begin to fizzle out over time..

People who came to green from blue will bounce back and forth depending on friends online/guild events and such..

And at the end of the day, all we know is that the plan was to roll green back into blue once the cycle is complete.. So blue will always be home :)

At the end of the day they said they aren't sure anymore what the plans are for Green at the end if it's timeline. It may merge into blue. It may not. But like they said, it's 3 years off... theres no rush go figure out what to do.

[Erati]

At the end of the day they said they aren't sure anymore what the plans are for Green at the end if it's timeline. It may merge into blue. It may not. But like they said, it's 3 years off... theres no rush go figure out what to do.

Having two identically locked servers makes no sense for niche community.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/Z012BKa.gif

[Valeriya]

blue is dead..... theres 300 people online right now quit crying and accept it. its going to continue

[rezzie]

Delete blue and let everyone enjoy green.

[Valeriya]

Delete blue and let everyone enjoy green.

MIND BLOWING.....

[Axlrose]

Rants and flames eh...?

Those people whining that "Blue is dead blue is dead!" will be the first motherfuckers back in a heartbeat if the mighty two (Nilbog and Rogean) decided to add some expansion aspects to Blue only. "Holy shit! Parts of Plane of Power have been linked to Old World zones! Dial the bat phones!" Since Blue is the dead beta server, there would be no true need to keep the ~classic~ excuse going at this point.

If you're having fun on Green, then more power to you. But to lambast people for staying on Blue is really in poor fucking taste. What's next when people fade off the hype and bore of doing more of the same grind that they done on Blue, on Live, on any other emulated server, imitate Sergeant O'Neil at the end of "Platoon", "They all left me, fucking faggots!"?

Even though mommy told you you're a special snowflake, the world does not revolve around you. Let people play where they want and quit worrying about the "Blue is dead!" server.

[Bazia]

i dont want all the duped blue manastones on my green server thanks but no thanks on the merge

DELETE BLUE

[bigjeff100]

Having two identically locked servers makes no sense for niche community.

[Wonkie]

But to lambast people for staying on Blue is really in poor fucking taste.

:o

[Valeriya]

Rants and flames eh...?

Those people whining that "Blue is dead blue is dead!" will be the first motherfuckers back in a heartbeat if the mighty two (Nilbog and Rogean) decided to add some expansion aspects to Blue only. "Holy shit! Parts of Plane of Power have been linked to Old World zones! Dial the bat phones!" Since Blue is the dead beta server, there would be no true need to keep the ~classic~ excuse going at this point.

If you're having fun on Green, then more power to you. But to lambast people for staying on Blue is really in poor fucking taste. What's next when people fade off the hype and bore of doing more of the same grind that they done on Blue, on Live, on any other emulated server, imitate Sergeant O'Neil at the end of "Platoon", "They all left me, fucking faggots!"?

Even though mommy told you you're a special snowflake, the world does not revolve around you. Let people play where they want and quit worrying about the "Blue is dead!" server.


Blue is dead

[Tzug]

Blue is dead

What a child.

[Valeriya]

Quit crying

[Tzug]

Quit crying

Nothing's more boring than a provocateur, but if that's what you've cobbled together for a makeshift personality, might as well go with it.

[Wonkie]

Nothing's more boring than a provocateur, but if that's what you've cobbled together for a makeshift personality, might as well go with it.

redbros are doing a revenge for all the times blue posters pooed all over their server promotion efforts

it's funny

[Nirgon]

Blue server was a toxic dump and failed because of its community. Enjoy your rooted dragons, and linking your pixels you farmed with the few people left there.

[Valeriya]

Blue server was a toxic dump and failed because of its community. Enjoy your rooted dragons, and linking your pixels you farmed with the few people left there.

[bigjeff100]

You're obnoxious

[Nirgon]

No surprise seeing this behavior from the toxic rooted dragon community. Enjoy your dead server.

[Bazia]

No wonder staff abandoned blue, look at these toxic ingrates

im glad they kept it open as a containment center to keep these shitheads off green

[Horza]

redbros are doing a revenge for all the times blue posters pooed all over their server promotion efforts

it's funny

[Wonkie]

You're obnoxious

obnoxious speech is the best kind of speech

[bigjeff100]

obnoxious speech is the best kind of speech

Debatable- However something tells me that word turns you on more than anything. So in fact, lets not debate.. You win again Wonkie :)

"Obnoxious speech is the best kind of speech"
- Wonkie Fall of 2019

[Darkfuneral]

Blue might hit 400 today bois!

[Chortles Snort|eS]

No wonder staff abandoned blue, look at these toxic ingrates

im glad they kept it open as a containment center to keep these shitheads off green