NO to a second server!

[Baler]

Population is key to the classic experience!

/tell rogean NO

[Danger]

NO TO GREEN2 YES 2PVP

[Spock2020]

I would wait also. When people are more spread out I think it's gonna work fine.

[Baler]

I'm required to say,. yes pvp server.

I would wait also. When people are more spread out I think it's gonna work fine.

Exactly, I think this is the proper answer to the "problem".

[Dolalin]

This is about what Fennin Ro was like at launch. It's classic in that sense.

[Hagglebaron]

Voting no to a second server, pop is the highest concern imo. Need alot of players.

[skorge]

regular EQ launch had like 700 people...this is triple the amt of people to the point they had to increase spawn rate 80%...so ummmm yea we need 2-3 servers

[skorge]

Voting no to a second server, pop is the highest concern imo. Need alot of players.

Rogean said he would MERGE servers together after a few weeks or so, so the second server will be temp

[lowner411]

But if they have resources for a second server … maybe they could open it up for a fresh PVP server with teams!

[Baler]

Population is VERY important to the success of Green. Do not make a 2nd server.

PVP server with teams!

I'd quit green for that.

[NegaStoat]

Teams PvP was what was promised before the mysterious meeting that caused Velious to be delayed, just in time for Daybreak's latest progression server at that time. All sorts of hype and podcasts covered what the staff was going to try, and Sirken was itching to get it going.

Then nothing.

[Baler]

Players Online: 2576

Honestly,. that's not even an issue. With the increased noobie zone spawn rate. People are filing through in a normal classic fashion.

I understand staff may get a lot more petitions lately but give it a couple days. Things will be normal and good!

[Connor]

Population feels great, easy to get a camp going you can get a full group in under a minute.

[skorge]

arent only noob zones increased spawn rate? many people are 5+ now...chaos may be about to happen lol

[Videri]

With 120 in Misty Thicket, I joined a group, got to level 4, and made several pieces of tattered/patchwork armor in 4 hours, including UI setup time and 1 death. It will only get better as the population levels up and spreads out.

I guess a temporary second server would be fine, though.

[Vidar]

No to a second server. it is not needed.

[Gustoo]

I am dying to log in and see this hit 3000. Epic levels of population.

If there is another server, hopefully it is pvp. xoxoxo

[Polixa]

But will the pop spread out? Once 2000 people hit L25? There are fewer mid level hunting spots than newbie zones.

Once the bulk of people hit 40, and one Sol B spawn point per group, Blue will look attractive again.

Once the 2 dragons are locked down by a 300 member guild, Blue will look like paradise...

[Nilstoniakrath]

I want a second server, as in, a Green dumping ground for when the Classic Green cycle hits Luclin. Leave Blue alone, let it be the server for customized "in the spirit of what classic should have expanded to after Velious" and give it all the good QoL stuff. DON'T dump the legacy stuff from the Green(s) onto Blue.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

The 35+ grind is gonna be problematic. 250 ppl in LGuk ain't gonna work especially considering it will NOT have increased spawn rates

[Vizax_Xaziv]

I want a second server, as in, a Green dumping ground for when the Classic Green cycle hits Luclin. Leave Blue alone, let it be the server for customized "in the spirit of what classic should have expanded to after Velious" and give it all the good QoL stuff. DON'T dump the legacy stuff from the Green(s) onto Blue.

I think this is what they intend to do

[Baler]

dont take the non-classic way out..ffs

[skipdog]

No split!

[Raclen]

Is baler trying to say it is classic to have 1 server with 2x the population of a classic server instead of 2 servers with the correct population per server?

split followed by a merge followed by a keep your mouth shut kid

[gangsta]

NO TO GREEN2 YES 2PVP

[Jimjam]

I'm saying no because i want to see permafrost filled out.

[Malikail]

Why not? They killed one perfectly good server in blue why not launch a Second green one so none of them are successful? I just had to chime in cuz this thread made me laugh. You don't want a second green server? I can relate, I didn't want this one in the first place. I almost feel completely left out, not only am I not excited about it, I can't even understand why anybody else is. "Oh boy we get to start over again, limited to original World content, a few custom rules and a level cap of 50", not only is that a hard pass for me I do not understand why people are excited about it except people who have been away for a really long time.

[DarkwingDuck]

What? Definitely need a second server. This ones twice as popular as Blue has been in the last 2-3 years

[DarkwingDuck]

Why not? They killed one perfectly good server in blue why not launch a Second green one so none of them are successful? I just had to chime in cuz this thread made me laugh. You don't want a second green server? I can relate, I didn't want this one in the first place. I almost feel completely left out, not only am I not excited about it, I can't even understand why anybody else is. "Oh boy we get to start over again, limited to original World content, a few custom rules and a level cap of 50", not only is that a hard pass for me I do not understand why people are excited about it except people who have been away for a really long time.

Because the prices are inflated, raiding is toxic, and if you want an epic piece for you better be ready to shell out 100k-500k to poopsocking neck beards stuck in their chairs since 2002.

A chance for hundreds or thousands of us, to play some classic EQ from day 1, without competing with fanboy00twink

You don’t need to feel left out. In a month 500 of these guys will be back on blue. And it’ll be back to the 900 that were always on

[gangsta]

NO TO GREEN2 YES 2PVP

[Eyesnthedark]

I spent about 45 mins to kill 2 rats until i picked a spawn point and camped one mob. Not sure if broken, or working as intended. (insert fry) 95 people in the swamp under level 5.

Also, i'm going to be reporting 94 people later when i have time to sift through the video for KSing.

[Bisonzabi]

pls ban anyone using anything BUT a 56k dialup modem.

#KeepIt1999 #Windows98FOREVER

[Malikail]

Because the prices are inflated, raiding is toxic, and if you want an epic piece for you better be ready to shell out 100k-500k to poopsocking neck beards stuck in their chairs since 2002.

A chance for hundreds or thousands of us, to play some classic EQ from day 1, without competing with fanboy00twink

You don’t need to feel left out. In a month 500 of these guys will be back on blue. And it’ll be back to the 900 that were always on

I completely disagree with everything you said but I hope you're right about the people going back to Blue. It's none of the things you think it is that separates the Wheat and the chaf. It's not that they're "poopsocking neckbeard stuck in their chair since 2002" Hell I started last February and I don't think 500k is a lot of money. It's the way they approach the game, something they won't change and so they'll have the exact same frustrated experience on Green. But I do thank you for at least trying to explain to me what it is they're excited about: hope. It gives people hope that they can be on top. They can't, their approach to the game prevents it, but they'll learn that in time.

I'll check out green when they release kunark on it. The original era of EQ didn't really appeal to me that much, buddy of mine I worked with spent pretty much the whole original period trying to get me to start playing which I did right before kunark was released because it looks so damn cool on the box to be honest

[pharmakos]

Yes to second server being enforced roleplaying!

[Amaurot]

I don't understand the whole pvp server argument. You have a book of discord? Noone's stopping you from going red.

[Danger]

I don't understand the whole pvp server argument. You have a book of discord? Noone's stopping you from going red.

Yeah, you don't understand, which is fine. You haven't played EQ pvp, most people haven't.

Turning in that book makes you unhealable and unbuffable by anyone who didnt turn in the book and makes grouping/raiding/anything basically impossible.

So then what, you're relegated to grouping with the other people who turned in the book (so you're probably not going going to pvp them) but still cant contest camps or other disputes via pvp with those who didnt turn in the book.

Dumb.

Eq on a pvp server feels different. You're constantly checking who's in your zone to see if a new person you dont know is around. People start asking if anyone knows Amaurot, what class/level is he? Is he a good dude? Most people run /anon or /roleplay so you dont know what class or level they are and if they're a threat

Conflicts or resources competition can be resolved by combat. Sure you can harmtouch that Ranger low on hp fighting a rabid grizzly bear because you want the bear for yourself but your reputation will follow you, and is in some ways more important than on a non pvp server. Maybe the Ranger gets his friends and they hunt you down.

It brings an element of both paranoia and community bonding while resolving list mechanics and the ability to address territorial disputes.

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

[Danger]

Also its fun.

[Lordgordon]

I voted no because im level 40 already and have looted 10 manastones.

[tinklepee]

Just add guild wars to green, no need to split the pop

[Obrae]

not taking position on yes or no, but just stating that everyone saying launch was like this clearly was not playing at launch.

[Gustoo]

Haha yeah at real launch people spent like 5 hours finding their guild master and talking to NPCs not suicide rushing skeletons and shitting pants if they had a staff

[Gustoo]

But vanilla is definitely best era of EQ. When bronze was good.

[Meiva]

I voted no because there wasn't much info. It felt like a panicked what do we do? There was even a dramatic earthquake lol.

What was a healthy classic server population back in 99? Was it 3k, 2k, 1k, 800, fewer? If 1k is healthy and we at a steady 2.5k peak, yea maybe you all should roll another server.

It might divide some people which sucks though... we gonna have to form server factions. Cross server /war. It's the only way.

[cd288]

Honestly, if they opened a second Green server I’d just stop playing Green and go back to Blue. In a couple months, all the recently joined population will stop playing and the population will be back to 1-1.2k at prime time on Green. Split that in half for two servers and why play at all? Blue has similar population to that so I’d rather go play my established characters at that point.

[gangsta]

Yeah, you don't understand, which is fine. You haven't played EQ pvp, most people haven't.

Turning in that book makes you unhealable and unbuffable by anyone who didnt turn in the book and makes grouping/raiding/anything basically impossible.

So then what, you're relegated to grouping with the other people who turned in the book (so you're probably not going going to pvp them) but still cant contest camps or other disputes via pvp with those who didnt turn in the book.

Dumb.

Eq on a pvp server feels different. You're constantly checking who's in your zone to see if a new person you dont know is around. People start asking if anyone knows Amaurot, what class/level is he? Is he a good dude? Most people run /anon or /roleplay so you dont know what class or level they are and if they're a threat

Conflicts or resources competition can be resolved by combat. Sure you can harmtouch that Ranger low on hp fighting a rabid grizzly bear because you want the bear for yourself but your reputation will follow you, and is in some ways more important than on a non pvp server. Maybe the Ranger gets his friends and they hunt you down.

It brings an element of both paranoia and community bonding while resolving list mechanics and the ability to address territorial disputes.

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

This man should be ours spokesman. Took the words from my mouth. If you need a description of our blight look no further.

[Wutaan]

I completely disagree with everything you said but I hope you're right about the people going back to Blue. It's none of the things you think it is that separates the Wheat and the chaf. It's not that they're "poopsocking neckbeard stuck in their chair since 2002" Hell I started last February and I don't think 500k is a lot of money. It's the way they approach the game, something they won't change and so they'll have the exact same frustrated experience on Green. But I do thank you for at least trying to explain to me what it is they're excited about: hope. It gives people hope that they can be on top. They can't, their approach to the game prevents it, but they'll learn that in time.

I'll check out green when they release kunark on it. The original era of EQ didn't really appeal to me that much, buddy of mine I worked with spent pretty much the whole original period trying to get me to start playing which I did right before kunark was released because it looks so damn cool on the box to be honest


Pretty sure it comes down to tackling content without twinks carrying you or well geared high levels available to bail you out if you mess up.

[Dilemne]

those who dont want a 2nd server are tha same that come from blue and want more people, but they can deal with high population because they have friend here..
all those who are forbidden to xp because groupe are xping want a 2nd serv and will leave.. cheer !

ps : I dont care about lose or win, or succed or fail.. but i think a game have to be fair play or pvp.
the last good pve community is on lotr i think (i dont like this game, but..).. i heard eq was one but its just mix max player who want to be better than their neightbour.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

me suspecT 2nd serVer waS 5k launch populatioN continGencY plAn scenArio

[Dilemne]

my dream is than gm just check who dont want new server... only old blue player ask for this... Only them can play like this, and only them will subsist and stay here then.. its just blue 2.0, i thought it was a new adventure but not at all.

[Bbeta]

if they are going to consider a second server, i really hope they consider it a no CSR server but following the no boxing no RMTing rule set.

[Khikik]

if they are going to consider a second server, i really hope they consider it a no CSR server but following the no boxing no RMTing rule set.

How exactly do you think that would be enforced without CSR?

[astuce999]

The 35+ grind is gonna be problematic. 250 ppl in LGuk ain't gonna work especially considering it will NOT have increased spawn rates

This.

The artificial spawn rate still has mobs dead in a few seconds from spawning.

I'd actually go for 4 servers with this population and in a month from now if naggy/vox aren't dead within minutes of spawning on any of those servers merge them back into 2.

cheers,

Astuce

[Tecmos Deception]

How exactly do you think that would be enforced without CSR?

Oh come on. VP was a no csr zone on blue, but it's not like you could box and rmt freely inside of it. But it was still called no csr.

[gangsta]

if they are going to consider a second server, i really hope they consider it a no CSR server but following the no boxing no RMTing rule set.

I hope for a pvp server where the only thing they enforce is anti-rmt and anti boxing. That is all.

[Smashed]

Now, a lot of people will point to the red server's languishing population as proof of an EQ PvP server not working, well I can only mention there is A LOT more to that story than most are aware of which include huge changes to PvP mechanics and group dynamics and SEVERAL staff members who are all no longer staff members.

Whenever people speak in defense of the red server, it sounds like my old college friends telling me why communism would be so cool and would have totally worked in the Soviet Union if it wasn’t for x, y, and z. For sure, man.

[Dilemne]

Are you sure that only listen to those people who dont want a new server because they can perform is a good thing ? What did all people who cant xp because too much people will do ?
good calculation...
And did someone ever think that most of new player didnt configure their chat window and missed the rogean message (and didnt answer for sure..)
Player who played blue want more challenge.. i can understand this. they ask for malus xp etc... but im not sure the 2k more people that came for green have fun waiting a bat on a single spawn point and having a 5/6 man group killing it (and then claim proudly on the forum that they did it ! )

[Tecmos Deception]

Are you sure that only listen to those people who dont want a new server because they can perform is a good thing ? What did all people who cant xp because too much people will do ?
good calculation...
And did someone ever think that most of new player didnt configure their chat window and missed the rogean message (and didnt answer for sure..)
Player who played blue want more challenge.. i can understand this. they ask for malus xp etc... but im not sure the 2k more people that came for green have fun waiting a bat on a single spawn point and having a 5/6 man group killing it (and then claim proudly on the forum that they did it ! )

You're also almost certainly overreacting about the landrush in the first weekend of a server many people have been anticipating for years.

[Dilemne]

i come here to tell my disapointment.
you just stick to me and try to insult me ?
I dont care about people rushing.. its just.. there is rules, why dont respect it ? only to faster pl ?? and gm are ok with this ?

[Tecmos Deception]

i come here to tell my disapointment.
you just stick to me and try to insult me ?
I dont care about people rushing.. its just.. there is rules, why dont respect it ? only to faster pl ?? and gm are ok with this ?

Your post history suggests you were excited. Cool. So was LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE.

Then when the server came up and it was as busy as most everyone said it was going to be, and you had some bad experiences with the rush of people thrilled to grab hold of every part of the green launch they could, you come on the forums and complain about the volunteer staff, who are few in number, letting "anarchy" reign and equate the people who didn't jump to share kills with you ingame to real-life racists and say that you hope green server fails and complain that SURELY the only reason anyone doesn't want a new server is because they're selfish pricks but YOU of course are only speaking on behalf of all the poor, downtrodden newcomers.

Yeah I'm gonna insult you. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

[Dilemne]

Im talking about something i lived
Gm changed respawn to be faster because there is too much people, but some people just abuse about it. And they can proudly say on forum " we were not 5 but 6 on the group that ks you.
Blue people are not impacted, they have a guild, they have a blue char they can play waiting.
New people dont. So only option is to be reckt by unfair people and shut our mouth or leave.
I dont think staff did a bad job, but they have a ton of work today to ensure the perenity of green serv.

And feel free to insult, i already underlined you were a coward, do this behind your screen, using that double talk that implie insults, without the courage to assume your words

I have no problem asking gm to ensure fair-play on their server
And if you think i deserve to be insulted for this, feel free to do it, be yourself, be the cow !!
Or maybe you think the staff need you because they can t defend themselve, i dont know..

[Tecmos Deception]

My take-away here is that I should feel like an idiot for not realizing right from the start what any attempts to talk to you would amount to.

[Dilemne]

Again, double talk.. try to have courage at least behind your screen... then maybe you ll try in real life one day
How can you say that you re an idiot while you just want to say the idiot is me ? ( or worst)
And insulting someone isnt an attempt to talk...

[Natewest1987]

My question is what is going to happen when everyone bottlenecks into the same zones that do not have increased spawn rates ? I mean, right now can be terrible for the moment, but isn’t it going to just get worse ?

[Dilemne]

increased spawn isnt classic and create some insane difference between people.. those who just abuse it and spit on rules have an insane advantage.

[Yorkshire]

It's amazing to see how much everyone is loving this right now! It's 6:00AM on a Sunday and there are still over 1000 people online! This is wild.

[Dilemne]

welcome to the world.. its midday in europe

[Gustoo]

Record the ks

The suspensions will set them back quite a bit in their leveling speed.

Justice will prevail.

[Dilemne]

i wont do a gm work. if the staff doesnt want to be the police, i wont be it to save their server.
And with people claiming proudly they did ks with a full group on this forum, and other that insult me because i complain about them... it just show me how staff care about this.

[Frug]

NO TO GREEN2 YES 2PVP

You and the 18 other people on Red. Sounds like a good use of time.

[Dilemne]

You and the 18 other people on Red. Sounds like a good use of time.

"you are not enough to be a part of our community or having fun in our server
plz go back to your server/game. (i'm not racist, i have a friend playing on red)"

what a good argument, quoting today population on red... blue is only 233 today.. what s your point ?

Do you ever think that being underpopulated in a pve game is just more challenging ? while being underpopulated in pvp means no fun..

only 1k player on green now, and it will continue to go down until all new player left. GJ

[Dilemne]

Honestly, if they opened a second Green server I’d just stop playing Green and go back to Blue. In a couple months, all the recently joined population will stop playing and the population will be back to 1-1.2k at prime time on Green. Split that in half for two servers and why play at all? Blue has similar population to that so I’d rather go play my established characters at that point.

did you ever understand what was the question ????

They asked if we want a 2nd green server for the start, wich will be merge with green 1 after some times...

and yeah, stop thinking green is only for the 800 blue players... the 3k more arent from here.

[Gustoo]

i wont do a gm work. if the staff doesnt want to be the police, i wont be it to save their server.
And with people claiming proudly they did ks with a full group on this forum, and other that insult me because i complain about them... it just show me how staff care about this.

No one on this server owes you anything.

You're an idiot.

[Jimjam]

For the moment it seems the population is spread out well enough. Sure you can't just default to the 'xp highway' spots, but its nice you are pushed into 'new' xp locations.

[Dilemne]

You would be doing your own work.

You're an idiot.

YES its always the insulted guy who is an idiot, not the one who insult him with no reason.
Player part of the job is report on forum, i wont dl something like fraps or anything else, configure it and then go back to those guys, hoping to be ks again and then capture it... while a staff member could just port to some place and see what s happen.

[Gustoo]

Sorry I changed my post to be more specific.

If you can't be bothered to fraps the 2 staff will have a harder time confirming that you were kill stealed and as a result the entire server population will suffer the negative impacts of those mean players for a longer period of time.

Thanks for not contributing.

[Dilemne]

my part of contibution was to report an abuse on the forum.
Your part is just to insult me

[Meiva]

I mean, I play nice, but it's reasonable to believe many of us will be KSing from time to time? We are all gonna be bottlenecked for a while.

[Dilemne]

I mean, I play nice, but it's reasonable to believe many of us will be KSing from time to time? We are all gonna be bottlenecked for a while.

true
And i dont care about the stupid solo who try to ks.
But when 5/6 man group do this, you just cant do anything except let them win.. thats why you need to be helped by the staff or let bad people abuse.. 2nd option seems to be the only one.

[Gustoo]

Dang maybe fraps it.

[Dilemne]

Dang maybe fraps it.

fraps wasnt a thing in 1999... hopefully, staff member on live could react without this.
And i just wont log in anymore, so i wont just do it for fraps.

[Gustoo]

Staff isn't paid here. Can't be everywhere. Use your celly to record your screen if you have to and post on youtube.

[Dilemne]

Staff isn't paid here. Can't be everywhere. Use your celly to record your screen if you have to and post on youtube.

i agree, they cant be everywhere. And you are helping them for sure.. by drowning forum report with all your good words.

[Jimjam]

Staff isn't paid here. Can't be everywhere. Use your celly to record your screen if you have to and post on youtube.

I record my screen caps to VCR and post them to Rogean Brad himself.

[Gustoo]

Thanks dillem.

Jimjam that's solid and deeply approved by staff and community.

[Dilemne]

they are too busy posting screenshot from elitist player yeah

[iamnotsalem]

Dilemne is a little bitch who bent over backwards giving me all his armadillos until he quit. Lol ! Loser !

[Dilemne]

Dilemne is a little bitch who bent over backwards giving me all his armadillos until he quit. Lol ! Loser !

exactly what i mean.. anarchy > rules here

[cd288]

fraps wasnt a thing in 1999... hopefully, staff member on live could react without this.
And i just wont log in anymore, so i wont just do it for fraps.

You won't log in anymore? Promise?

[Pozzey]

PVP server with 8 people on it... those people want a 2nd server... laff.

[Bazia]

I stole a bear spawnpoint in EC from some monk last night, it's a dog eat dog world atm

https://i.imgur.com/jodGh2c.png?1

sorry you lost

[Danger]

been a sewer dweller for like 10 levels now.

https://i.imgur.com/I6IgRgP.png

[Sear]

Teams PvP box pls so I can paypal a Scrooge McDuck sized donation to our humble server overlords.

Thanks. Stick a fork in the old red one already. Rallos Zek sucked.

[Danger]

Teams PvP box pls so I can paypal a Scrooge McDuck sized donation to our humble server overlords.

Thanks. Stick a fork in the old red one already. Rallos Zek sucked.

checked, prased, and seconded.

[Sear]

Imagine Everquest but you can use the gear you spend a billion hours camping to kill other players

once you experience the neckbeard adrenaline rush of pvp'ing for a camp deep in Lower Guk, you'll never want to go back to blue (or green - whatever)

also, the pvp community is not toxic at all and rly friendly normal ppl :)

[Bazia]

you hated red searyx

[Byrjun]

Because the prices are inflated, raiding is toxic, and if you want an epic piece for you better be ready to shell out 100k-500k to poopsocking neck beards stuck in their chairs since 2002.

A chance for hundreds or thousands of us, to play some classic EQ from day 1, without competing with fanboy00twink

Except this cycle happens with every new server. Players are mad because they don't have access to Content X, they ask for a new server, it launches, and then Content X gets monopolized by the same exact neckbeards that monopolized it on the last server. So you ask for a new server so you can experience Content X and the cycle continues.

Team PvP sounds great until you find out that the other team has more players and now they can monopolize the content even more effectively than they did on Blue or Green or whatever other server.

Classic EQ will never be a fair game, so there will always be complaints regardless of what the devs do.

[Jimjam]

Imagine Everquest but you can use the gear you spend a billion hours camping to kill other players

once you experience the neckbeard adrenaline rush of pvp'ing for a camp deep in Lower Guk, you'll never want to go back to blue (or green - whatever)

also, the pvp community is not toxic at all and rly friendly normal ppl :)

You're not meant to kill other players, just their characters.

[Danger]

Team PvP sounds great until you find out that the other team has more players and now they can monopolize the content even more effectively than they did on Blue or Green or whatever other server.

At least then players can channel their frustration into an opposing team (Threads about "fuck the Evil team" instead of deracinated individuals yelling into the void about individual player conduct) through which you have a cathartic way of satisfying your grievance (get the lads together and kill them) rather than into, well, nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Brgdd7PtqM

[unleashedd]

in the name of multiculturalism, i moved my halfling to kaladim to take all your scrap metal! NECKBEARD MODE ENGAGE!

[Tecmos Deception]

deracinated

New vocab word of the day!

[Smedy]

I vote for red99 merging into the trashcan that is blue 99 and open a new green red99 so we who enjoy actual difficult rpgs can play too, would love to experience everquest in pure darkness with pvp

[fugazi]

I'm not sure if adding 15 daily players to Blue is going to do much for its numbers, Smedy.

https://i.imgur.com/rNcTIVB.png

[Dilemne]

New vocab word of the day!

Asshole of the year talked

[Tecmos Deception]

Open another one

Why don't we just instance everything? :rolleyes: