Faydark has Nybright sisters at 12 for plat... what..

[TRiCiDE]

do Dark Elfs have close by?

[FishBait01]

They are like 150meters near, you won't agro them at all. There is also a bandit camp in the NW corner of zone.

Bandits in general drop bronze. For example, Nro, WC, and Oasis is badass for bandit bronze if you can't make it to lfay.

In RV you do Tagil quest for plat

[Sizar]

Anyone else confused at what op is talking about? Yes there are 4 sisters near MM zone, good camp for cash, will be highly contested...they are around level 12-14 ish or something...this what you are asking?

[Fammaden]

He's asking for a similar cash camp convenient to Neriak.

[Raekwondo Erudson]

Those who foolishly lust for gold will meet their doom at the hands of the High Men who thirst for knowledge.

Glory to Father Erud. Praise be to Prexuz.

[Vokhine]

Praz Prexus Pras our Brotherhood

Those who foolishly lust for gold will meet their doom at the hands of the High Men who thirst for knowledge.

Glory to Father Erud. Praise be to Prexuz.

[Tyronius of Midnight]

Praise Prexus and The High Men of Odus.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Da froGs and SpiDerS got LoTsa ShiniEs!! TasTy 😋 2!!

[TRiCiDE]

Yep!

[soronil]

Praise Prexus and The High Men of Odus.

I wasn't sold on "Male only Erudite guild". Too basic.

But if you guys have tightened it up to "Prexus Male only Erudite guild" then I am 100% on board where do i sign up.

[sacman08]

Do dervish cutthroats and orc camps

[Legidias]

LFay is close enough to neriak. Its like 40 minutes journey including boat.

[zaneosak]

LFay is close enough to neriak. Its like 40 minutes journey including boat.

My favorite part is running back when you're almost to the sisters camp and a brownie beats your ass into the ground 38 minutes into the trip.

[sacman08]

My favorite part is running back when you're almost to the sisters camp and a brownie beats your ass into the ground 38 minutes into the trip.

Or Equistrelle the Corrupted

[NegaStoat]

The Nybright camp pretty much is the best of its kind for the level range - I doubt anyone's going to argue that. But the thing that is always more important than raw early plat for a player is just getting levels any way you can, as efficiently (and by having fun!) as you can.

Steamfont minotaurs from both locations are a good substitute, as are the derv camps in Ro desert or East Commons, or the bandits in the Karanas as well as Lake Rathe. The cash to be made off of those camps will be like only 2/3's of the Nybrights (include that red bandit sash quest!), but that's life. It's enough to get by comfortably. Dungeon grouping will be a huge deal too. I think crushbone, split paw, and upper guk will be amazing.

I pray for the souls of people grouping in Befallen due to the mixed level range of mobs that walk around. Godspeed, daring heroes.

[Jimjam]

I'm giving away my best secrets, but there are more bandit camps in Lesser Fay than just sisters.

[NegaStoat]

I'm giving away my best secrets, but there are more bandit camps in Lesser Fay than just sisters.

The second bandit camp that you're thinking of is absolutely not safe if you are KOS to either Pixies or Faeries. For some unholy reason P1999 has incorrect mob pathing with a Thistle Underbrush placeholder wandering a wide, long, repeating path to either hill side facing the 3 spawn bandit camp as well as the center of that camp. If you are KOS to either Pixies or Faeries then eventually a Pixie trickster or a Faerie maiden will wander by, aggro you, you end up killing it, and then eventually a named Brownie spawns and wanders by to kick your ass.

Been there, got the shirt. That camp was ALWAYS safe back on old retail by sitting on the hill side facing the camp that was nearest to the zone wall, but no one can expect P1999 to be perfect.

[Aaramis]

Neriak has plenty of cash camps, just not super obvious ones like Nybrights who drop bronze rappers like candy.

Commons have plenty of animals for pelts (worth plat to tailors), wisps (lightstones), dervishes, etc.

Lavastorm has fire drakes and dervishes which can drop gems or jewelry for cash.

NRO has more dervishes including a chance at dragoon Dirk, plus lots of spider silks.

So, the plat is there - just not as concentrated or as easy to obtain.

[Wallicker]

Shralok pack camp, low lvl Rivervale guards not listed on wiki, runny eye, etc. not to mention you close to highkeep, could duo guard Blayle or Chopin both on 3 min timers around lvl 16 and make bank all the way to 50.

[Raekwondo Erudson]

I wasn't sold on "Male only Erudite guild". Too basic.

But if you guys have tightened it up to "Prexus Male only Erudite guild" then I am 100% on board where do i sign up.

All sons of Erud are welcome under the banner of the Dark Men of Odus. There are those amongst us who admire the incredible power of the Oceanlord. Others find solace in the soothing graces of Quellious. Yet others worship the harbinger of fear itself.

As the High Men of Norrath, we seek knowledge above all else. If one's quest for enlightenment brings him into the service of a deity, then so be it. We, as High Men, have the intellectual capacity to comprehend that the power of any deity pales in comparison to the combined might of the sons of Erud. Alas, the unification of the men of Odus is our sole mission.

Glory to Father Erud. Praise be to Prexuz.

[Donkey Hotay]

. . . Thistle Underbrush placeholder . . .

How long ago was this? Nilbog changed the PH(s?) at some point so the wiki info was all wrong--checking now--yep, still wrong.

(I ended up gathering everything from Steamfont to Lfay and AoEing it down to spawn him.)

[loramin]

The second bandit camp that you're thinking of is absolutely not safe if you are KOS to either Pixies or Faeries. For some unholy reason P1999 has incorrect mob pathing with a Thistle Underbrush placeholder wandering a wide, long, repeating path to either hill side facing the 3 spawn bandit camp as well as the center of that camp. If you are KOS to either Pixies or Faeries then eventually a Pixie trickster or a Faerie maiden will wander by, aggro you, you end up killing it, and then eventually a named Brownie spawns and wanders by to kick your ass.

Been there, got the shirt. That camp was ALWAYS safe back on old retail by sitting on the hill side facing the camp that was nearest to the zone wall, but no one can expect P1999 to be perfect.

Sounds like a bug someone should file (I know that normally evidence is required, but since there's so little evidence of pathing I think the devs might accept "memory evidence", especially when it makes perfect sense and opens up more play areas for people) :)

How long ago was this? Nilbog changed the PH(s?) at some point so the wiki info was all wrong--checking now--yep, still wrong.

(I ended up gathering everything from Steamfont to Lfay and AoEing it down to spawn him.)

Sounds like someone (it could be you!) should edit the wiki ... :)

[Donkey Hotay]

Sounds like someone (it could be you!) should edit the wiki ... :)

Someone already added the AoE method to the Discussion tab. Lacking the proper spawn, I would rather not delete some else's edit.

[FishBait01]

LFay is close enough to neriak. Its like 40 minutes journey including boat.

you mean 40min waiting for the boat.

was like a 1:20 ride from BB to FP. Only 1 boat runs when it should be 2

[TRiCiDE]

WOW, thanks all for responding. I feel all warm inside. :)

[loramin]

Lacking the proper spawn, I would rather not delete some else's edit.

Not to pick on you in any way, but IMHO this is 100% the wrong attitude to have about the wiki!

Look, no one wants inaccurate information: it doesn't help anyone. Even if all you do is delete inaccurate info and don't replace it with anything at all, you'll still be making the wiki better than anyone.

And if you do have info, but not all of it, say so! For one thing, I'd much rather know that, for instance, there's a placeholder for a mob, even if the wiki doesn't say what that placeholder is.

For another, if I see "we know X and Y about mob Z, but not ____" in the wiki, as soon as I figure out that "____" I'm going to edit the wiki and replace it with the right info. And lots of others are the same way.

So even when you just say "I don't know" in the wiki, you're still helping, because you're creating an invitation to have others help :)

This is a wiki for a reason. Anyone can contribute. If you see something that is inaccurate or can be improved, don't ask that it be fixed--just improve it.

[NegaStoat]

Sounds like a bug someone should file (I know that normally evidence is required, but since there's so little evidence of pathing I think the devs might accept "memory evidence", especially when it makes perfect sense and opens up more play areas for people) :)


The issue with making a bug report and submitting memory evidence is that the project is run by volunteers and time is their most critical resource that they have available. If someone reports something as being wrong, and they go to fix it, and then have someone else contend that the fix is wrong and submits better evidence, then they just wasted time that could have been used elsewhere.

There are a number of things wrong with the server and its mobs that I noticed from having fanatically played old retail.

1) The 4 spawn bandits in Butcherblock didn't have semi roaming paths. They were static placed mobs that would link aggro if you pulled one which made them hazardous for a Magician to solo the camp without clever use of the guards, but made it easy for a level 9 bard using Lament.

2) There were 4 skeleton mobs placed equidistant in relation to the fallen cog wheel in steamfont outside of the mino cave so that a druid could shift into tree form, thorn coat themselves and pull them each one at a time to be killed without having to move if they set themselves correctly in place. I abused this spot several times as a druid. There was no melee knockback from melee hits while in tree form as well. None. I could sit and med and fight as a tree the whole time for hours.

3) The entrance hallway of the Hole that had elementals in 2 rows were set deep enough in their alcoves so that they were not in LoS of each other if you were careful in pulling from sharp frontal angles, allowing you to single pull each of them one at a time in turn without crowd control effect spells. My magician abused the hell out of them in the mid to late 40's. I actually have semi proof of this being the case.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=99&p=5#comments

Comment thread started by SOLO EXP poster, 6th from the bottom.

4) High Elf paladin guards in felwithe never, ever, ever used any spell other than a standard healing style spell at low health, and that was it. Ever. They never cast root, dispel magic, lay on hands, or anything else other than self buffs periodically. Those were the mobs I bombed with joy with my magician after I was done with the Hole.


The major issue for #3 is that P1999's custom code uses a different method of mob aggro dectection over what true Retail uses and it just might not be possible for the volunteer staff to match it with specific delicate examples, like that stacked alcove hallway. The issue for #4 is that P1999's custom code for spell tables for mobs is far more robust than what old pre Luclin EQ had available and it would be darned hard to prove what spells a mob had and then apply it to some and not others.

I have submitted bug reports before but only for really critical things, and for those things being items I know the staff could correct with minimal effort.

[Donkey Hotay]

Not to pick on you in any way . . .

Lies, you're piling on for my low-effort meme from earlier today.

Also who knows, maybe the PH is back to pre-Nilbog'd on Green. If I'm really bored tonight, maybe I'll run over to LFay and check it out.

[NegaStoat]

How long ago was this? Nilbog changed the PH(s?) at some point so the wiki info was all wrong--checking now--yep, still wrong.

(I ended up gathering everything from Steamfont to Lfay and AoEing it down to spawn him.)

I encountered the issue when I first played on the server in 2013, but encountered it again back in... 2017? I think. For anyone really wanting the braided Ivy cords off of Thistle, the current correct place to nab him is by camping he pixie tower at #3 on the map and be on the sloping gully location facing the tower, with the 3 spawn bandit camp behind you in the distance. I whacked pixies there repeatedly there with my Necromancer while farming arrows for Etched Ivy Legs and made a point of killing any faerie or pixie that moved. The roaming Faerie Maiden PH for thistle always roamed by that spot and I got him to pop like 6 or 7 times while collecting the arrows.

[Donkey Hotay]

I encountered the issue when I first played on the server in 2013, but encountered it again back in... 2017? I think. For anyone really wanting the braided Ivy cords off of Thistle, the current correct place to nab him . . .

Ha! How odd, I did the very same with my necro and I know the spawn you mention although I wasn't bothering with that fairy at the time. How interesting; that does sound like the same pather going by the bandits, then.

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I take it that treeform does get pushback on P99?

[NegaStoat]

Treeform on p1999 doesn't negate knockback, yes.

[Donkey Hotay]

Treeform on p1999 doesn't negate knockback, yes.

That one does sound Bug-worthy. It makes good use of the spell and makes good sense from a RP perspective!

[loramin]

I have submitted bug reports before but only for really critical things, and for those things being items I know the staff could correct with minimal effort.

I dunno: I'm not staff and I can only speak for myself. But personally ... if I were in their shoes I'd much rather have that bug report (which is essentially what you just wrote) than not.

From what I've seen (and really, just from looking at the list of notes for any P99 patch), I really don't think they only care about "critical" stuff. I think the devs truly care ... a lot ... about correcting stuff like the pathing of NPCs in lowbie zones.

[NegaStoat]

Actually, my memories of the Hole were correct and someone else already caught it.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298764&highlight=Hole+Elemental+Warrior

Anyway, I'll stop derailing the OP's topic. Getting back on topic, mobs that will absolutely be in demand and command decent plat for their drops are Bixies. Assuming that the Honey Jum quest is working correctly, people are going to kill every spazzin' Koalindl fish they can for the first 4 months of the game, if not longer, for the Stein of Moggok quest. Do NOT sell those honeycombs cheap.

[Aaramis]

Neriak has plenty of cash camps, just not super obvious ones like Nybrights who drop bronze rappers like candy..

Aaaand, thank you telephone autocorrect. Gotta love those bronze rappers, rofl.

[Ivory]

Those who foolishly lust for gold will meet their doom at the hands of the High Men who thirst for knowledge.

Glory to Father Erud. Praise be to Prexuz.

Oh ya?

Gnomes is good! Gnomes is greatest!!!!!!

[loramin]

Oh ya?

Gnomes is good! Gnomes is greatest!!!!!!

Your "Gnomish" sounds like Ogre-speak ;)