Kunark is a short hop to Velious

[Jibartik]

The thought occured to me that with such a short time in Kunark (7 months I believe?) before the launch of Velious that many folks may be dinging 60 for the first time some time into Velious.

I thought I was pretty good at Everquest and I was like level 54 when Velious came out and did quite a bit of exping in Skyshrine killing stuff all over those tunnels trying to get some cool new armor (http://pattyanddave.com/dave/aa/vol1iss2.html) back in the day.

Do you think this will be the case? Or will everyone be well into 60 by then?

Seems like a fun way to enjoy velious again (for a 3rd time:p).

https://i.imgur.com/HZPqO09.png

[Baler]

not everyone will be level 60 by the time velious comes out on green.
However the people who play every day of classic to 50,. then every day of kunark to 60..
Well obviously they'll be 60..

Raid guilds will have many level 60s and guild character 60s by the time velious comes out.

Leveling isnt hard tbh.

ps. BIG fan of the UI :D Keep at it!

[Jibartik]

Man. We need that -10,000% exp bonus :p

ps thanks :o

[Vizax_Xaziv]

not everyone will be level 60 by the time velious comes out on green.
However the people who play every day of classic to 50,. then every day of kunark to 60..
Well obviously they'll be 60..

Raid guilds will have many level 60s and guild character 60s by the time velious comes out.

Leveling isnt hard tbh.

ps. BIG fan of the UI :D Keep at it!
The 55-60 grind will be rough. Not many great xp camps at that level and there will be LOTS of players. The people who choose to tough it out during Classic and play Tanks / Rogues / Monks / Bards will definitely be rewarded come Kunark!

[Baler]

I honestly found that 55-60 was the harest part for the casual players.
This is evidence over hundreds of people.

[Chryorn]

Before Kunark I wanted to reach 50 with my necro. During Kunark I switched from necro to cleric, but didn't feel the drive to level to 60 before Velious. Not sure why... maybe because there was no new level cap... I don't remember.
Having Aegolism in the bank was a good reason to start to get to 60 though. I am not even sure what level the cleric was when Velious went live.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Before Kunark I wanted to reach 50 with my necro. During Kunark I switched from necro to cleric, but didn't feel the drive to level to 60 before Velious. Not sure why... maybe because there was no new level cap... I don't remember.
Having Aegolism in the bank was a good reason to start to get to 60 though. I am not even sure what level the cleric was when Velious went live.

U talking on Classic or Blue99? I kinda feel the same honestly. I know during Classic my Warrior was lvl 54 when Velious dropped. I fondly recall hitting 55 then getting to tank mobs in PoGrowth as my first ever raiding experience.

[Jibartik]

I wonder how many folks will swap to lizard? That's a long way to go in 7 months.

[Madbad]

I wont swap to lizard but I'm sure ill make a lizard "alt" when kunark drops

[Chryorn]

Classic. I haven't been that long on Blue - February 2018 - and didn't devote that much time to it. Blue is a bit strange. My cleric only made it to 49 and is the highest of my chars there.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

I wonder how many folks will swap to lizard? That's a long way to go in 7 months.

Yea I couldn't do that even if I wanted to. 1-50 isn't too terrible but that 51-60 push is some true grindage. Couldn't imagine doin the full 1-60 in a single xpack

[Vexenu]

After how long we waited for Velious on Blue it's going to be very jarring to have only 7 months of Kunark, and only 3 months with Epics before Velious rolls around. I suspect most players will keep most of their planar gear through Kunark and only end up replacing it in Velious. Kunark will be more about the 50-60 XP grind than gearing up appreciably. I'm curious how VP will be treated on Green though. I think most guilds will just skip it altogether, focus on leveling and keep their powder dry for Velious. Depending on how heavily contested Trak is there might not even be a single guild capable of fielding a successful VP raid before Velious drops. That would be a pretty amusing contrast with Blue's history.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Classic. I haven't been that long on Blue - February 2018 - and didn't devote that much time to it. Blue is a bit strange. My cleric only made it to 49 and is the highest of my chars there.

Yea a nice casual leveling speed. Nothing wrong w that at all my dude. That's what makes EQ so great - the open world design facilitates so many different playstyles.

[Bazia]

unpopular opinion but i think we could do a year in kunark and it would work out better

[whitebandit]

Im just so excited for a classic timeline. I want to see how far i can get.

[Vexenu]

unpopular opinion but i think we could do a year in kunark and it would work out better

Probably true. A four-year Green cycle sounds like a good amount of time, IMO.

Year 1 - Classic
Year 2 - Kunark
Year 3 - Velious
Year 4 - Final year
Year 4 ends - Reset/Rollover/New Green server starts

A solid year in classic and Kunark is enough time to fully appreciate the content in each before moving on. Then two years in Velious allows enough time to bring the server to full maturity and to just start feeling stale enough to get people excited for a fresh Green restart.

All that being said, I will not quibble with the staff's decision to approximate the classic timeline, especially on the first go-around with Green. I'm sure they might consider modest changes to the timeline for future Greens based on how the first one goes.

[Chryorn]

Yea a nice casual leveling speed.
More coitus interruptus. When I play I play a lot. But a lot of things happened during the last 1.5 years that took precedent.

Game related I had already realized on live that it is no fun to join a guild that has been in high end farming mode for a while. When my guild decided to leave the Innoruuk server to move to the new European one - Antonius Bayle I think? - we were just in the process of fighting our way into ToV. The server move resulted in the guild breaking up though. Our leader had arranged for us to join Darkwind and I would have been accepted after the trial phase. It just wasn't fun for me. I had enjoyed gearing up, getting stronger as a guild, moving towards more difficult targets. Suddenly getting all that handed to me, racing from one easy god kill to the next, just didn't do it for me. Between that and leaving a few good friends on the old server made me decide to quit.

That memory made me reconsider my plans to level to 55+ on Blue and join the raiding scene. Instead I tried a few classes I never really played before and got them to 40+ during my episodes of playing. And then it looked as if Green might really happen in the foreseeable future...

[Swish]

I would literally attempt maybe 1 character for green to 60, something I haven't played to 60 before so when it does roll into blue I'm just giving myself more long term options there :)

[BlackBellamy]

The Iksar are going to have a gigantic advantage because they are going to get totally twinkled out and oog buffed and healed on the way up. They’ll join the 50+ grind very soon after.

[Graventhel]

I thought I was pretty good at Everquest and I was like level 54 when Velious came out and did quite a bit of exping in Skyshrine killing stuff all over those tunnels trying to get some cool new armor (http://pattyanddave.com/dave/aa/vol1iss2.html) back in the day.

Did you know Zsazsa Vavoom?

[Jibartik]

No I dont Grave sorry. Is that an old member of this guild? I Just found this browsing some old web URLs on the wayback machine hehe

[Indicas]

people are going to be 50 by the first week, the problem is back then, wiki ect ect wasn't an option so you really had to figure out how to do stuff, now the game has been out 20 years people have figured out all spawn cycles, for instance i played a mage for 3 years on live and never got a pegasus cloak for epic, people thought it was a random spawn ect ect.. now there's a method to farm it and you can have it within an hour. so big differences like that speed the game up.

[bum3]

people are going to be 50 by the first week

As people like to point out here... that isn't classic.

I got my first full-time job right when kunark hit and it took me the full kunark to get to 55. It took me a couple weeks to get from 55-60 in velious. Velks was too good.

[soronil]

The Iksar are going to have a gigantic advantage because they are going to get totally twinkled out and oog buffed and healed on the way up. They’ll join the 50+ grind very soon after.

I tihnk you are comparing blue twinks to what will be kunark launch twinks...

For example, a "twinked" iskar monk day 1 of kunark is what, a set of cured silk armor, maybe a couple of 8/28 maces (ooooh spicy... he'll go back to bare fists at level 30).

Vanilla "twink" gear does not compare to Velious twink gear. For sure some good twink gear coming out in kunark, but it will be less common/expensive at kunark launch.

[Tecmos Deception]

As people like to point out here... that isn't classic.

I got my first full-time job right when kunark hit and it took me the full kunark to get to 55. It took me a couple weeks to get from 55-60 in velious. Velks was too good.

Fascinating.

[Graventhel]

No I dont Grave sorry. Is that an old member of this guild? I Just found this browsing some old web URLs on the wayback machine hehe

He was an old friend and guild mate. One of my characters was actually referenced in the blog along with many old names I remember. I was kinda hoping you were him.

[Chryorn]

I tihnk you are comparing blue twinks to what will be kunark launch twinks...

For example, a "twinked" iskar monk day 1 of kunark is what, a set of cured silk armor, maybe a couple of 8/28 maces (ooooh spicy... he'll go back to bare fists at level 30).

The gear will be a lot better than just cured silk. Azure sleeves, Gatorscale leggings, Lockjaw Hide vest or Foreman's Tunic, at least a FBSS, even though haste is level capped, ... The better Classic gear easily beats the monk PoF armor on AC. There were a lot of discussions about that. Brad brushed them off - high AC for monks wasn't part of his vision for the class.

[Jibartik]

He was an old friend and guild mate. One of my characters was actually referenced in the blog along with many old names I remember. I was kinda hoping you were him.

I wish I was lol Ive never re-connected with an old live friend but would love to haha

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Im just so excited for a classic timeline. I want to see how far i can get.

[cd288]

I wonder how many folks will swap to lizard? That's a long way to go in 7 months.

No plans to. Don't like playing Shamans, already have a Necro on Blue and an Iksar Monk on Blue, and don't like Iksars for SK.

[cd288]

people are going to be 50 by the first week, the problem is back then, wiki ect ect wasn't an option so you really had to figure out how to do stuff, now the game has been out 20 years people have figured out all spawn cycles, for instance i played a mage for 3 years on live and never got a pegasus cloak for epic, people thought it was a random spawn ect ect.. now there's a method to farm it and you can have it within an hour. so big differences like that speed the game up.

You really think people are going to just barely sleep for 7 days to hit 50 on an EQ emulated server when they've already hit 50 multiple times on the first iteration of said server?

[Chryorn]

Just look at the different threads organizing launch groups. For some the race already started.

[Fammaden]

You really think people are going to just barely sleep for 7 days to hit 50 on an EQ emulated server when they've already hit 50 multiple times on the first iteration of said server?

Is this sarcasm or do you really not know what you're dealing with here? The first 50's might even be sooner than a full week.

[Lojik]

Honestly it will be interesting to see how the server plays out. I think what part of it will come down to is peoples attention spans from classic to kunark. If lots of people really stay into it (lets be real here, classic EQ with high pops is REALLY slow) you could have lots of people competing for camps in kunark with subpar equipment and mechanics that are not as user friendly. Of course there will be 60's, but I have a feeling it's going to be fewer than people think.

[dekova]

You really think people are going to just barely sleep for 7 days to hit 50 on an EQ emulated server when they've already hit 50 multiple times on the first iteration of said server?

I'd say without a doubt, even with the lure of manastones and other high-value distractions.

[Indicas]

I'd say without a doubt, even with the lure of manastones and other high-value distractions.

IIRC on live back in 2000 when kunark was released there was a level 60 iksar within a week

[Jimjam]

Honestly it will be interesting to see how the server plays out. I think what part of it will come down to is peoples attention spans from classic to kunark. If lots of people really stay into it (lets be real here, classic EQ with high pops is REALLY slow) you could have lots of people competing for camps in kunark with subpar equipment and mechanics that are not as user friendly. Of course there will be 60's, but I have a feeling it's going to be fewer than people think.

Imo you gotta take vanilla slow. So much great content to pass through not much at the top.

[zaneosak]

Leveling will be harder than people think in the 40s and 50s without Kunark zones and Velious zones respectively, for some classes anyways. It will be ultimately a good thing because more people will group as a result, which is what made everquest what it was in the first place. Just chilling out in Lower Guk frenzied camp with 5 people getting a whopping 1/4 a yellow on a saturday afternoon.

[bum3]

Fascinating.

Thank you.

[skorge]

The main thing is there were be sooooo few fungis on Green when Velious hits...this will automatically make Green more classic than blue ever was.

[Jimjam]

There's gonna be plenty of mains struggling to pass 40 when velious hits... Crystal Caverns and Rygor Fort groups!

People will wear Rygor armour!!

[bum3]

Lguk so good exp... except when groups only get 1-2 mobs. hehe

[Jibartik]

There's gonna be plenty of mains struggling to pass 40 when velious hits... Crystal Caverns and Rygor Fort groups!

People will wear Rygor armour!!

I sure hope so! :o

[Gustoo]

Theres going to be a ton of people under level 60 when velious drops.

Rygor armor was top tier fashionquest for my ranger in olden days. Man those new textures were fly.