Guise - Coresponding Dark Elf face option

[peterpal]

Given I happen to get lucky on a guise of the deceiver. Is there a way to tell in advance which Dark Elf face you get? Is it like face option 1 to 1 or did someone do the trial and made a matrix for that yet?

[uygi]

My guess is you get default face according to the client and/or server, otherwise this sounds near-impossible to document without GM powers. I kinda doubt any of them are gonna do this.

[Gustoo]

Man deep fashionquest here.

Guessing dwarf face 1 would translate to de face 1

[nilbog]

I think players should get a different dark elf face depending on what face their true race has.

I assume it would be something like human:male:face2->darkelf:male:face2.

If this isn't working, and if it should, will add it to the list. Not high on priority by any means, but would be nice to have details for when someone wants to work on it!

[Cen]

Ive tested this thoroughly. For the quickest reference use the velious fashion page. There are six faces lined up. Whose faces are exactly aligned with which face you get when you race change using the illusion spell.

However two problems to note with that method. Number one is there's only six faces shown out of the eight. Number two is that helmets obscure some faces. I will tell you the helmeted dark elf face is the one that belongs to the very deep red eyed mr spock looking face.

Another method that you can't do one blue anymore now but works on the easy server is to use a quickly leveled up chanter to cross-reference the illusions while using the face tab to switch faces. Be careful doing this method and make sure you Zone before you check each time because the first time you cast it that face will always come up even if you change using the face tab

Finally if you just show me what face you want to have as a dark elf I will show you what face to get with whatever race you want to play

Here is a human example of what I meant for the fashion page (I cut out the helmeted plate guys):

https://i.imgur.com/m8hmZ6x.png



also heres a link to some face comparisons some jackass made using his cell phone camera for some reason a couple years ago when talking about the topic
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2519817

[bubur]

also heres a link to some face comparisons some jackass made using his cell phone camera for some reason a couple years ago when talking about the topic
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2519817

to add 1 point of data here: my halfling on green has the face shown on this dudes' cell phone images and when I guise, I become that same dark elf face

so it probably is already working as nilbog suggested above

[Wenai]

You can customize your DE face locally to whatever you want. Use S3DSpy to open the s3d files. They correspond as Nilbog posted above. Just take the one you like, and overwrite the one that corresponds to your regular race face. It is pretty simple. I did it on Blue.

[Canelek]

Strong FashionQuest opening. Well done!

[Cen]

to add 1 point of data here: my halfling on green has the face shown on this dudes' cell phone images and when I guise, I become that same dark elf face

so it probably is already working as nilbog suggested above

It is working normally and correctly as far as I have seen. I guess I should have mentioned.

[Ashenden]

I guess I can give you guys this. Male obviously isn't finished. Can double check faces for yourself I only think it's right no guarantees here.

Female Faces (https://i.imgur.com/ysztuiq.jpg)

Male Faces (https://i.imgur.com/4gkSFpO.jpg)

Oh also it's the EQ HD faces so sucks for you if you don't like them.

[peterpal]

That's perfect, thanks for all the answers

[bubur]

I just did this also. Comparing with Ashenden's work, we appear to have come to the same results independently. I'm 90% sure this is accurate. Any enc on blue or green that can confirm would be wonderful.

Each column corresponds to faces with the same ID. If you pick a face in one of these columns, you can expect to guise into the dark elf at the top of that column (probably).

Male
https://i.imgur.com/QFTZTuk.jpg


Female
https://i.imgur.com/uzPYwfV.jpg

[Wallicker]

It angers me beyond end that my eyepatch pirate human bard is not an eyepatch pirate Barbarian bard with illusion!

[Cen]

Oh right female humans have a duplicate face ;D

I feel like Male Dark elf faces 3 and 7 are the most popular ones
and female 4

[Seungkyu]

I feel like Male Dark elf faces 3 and 7 are the most popular ones


They're definitely the most handsome, and pretty boy faces of the bunch.

It's interesting that many people to choose an ideal version of themselves rather than a realistic version.

I'm Korean American, so I'm definitely playing a Mistmoore Dark Elf for realism.
"Mistmoore Dark Elves = South Koreans."

Guide to playing Dark Elf Shadowknights
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67121

[Cen]

So im likely maining a Human ranger and I can't decide between my two favorites, the ginger and the eyepatch. I feel like eyepatch is great for a rogue and bard, but maybe a grizzled ranger too. Both their dark elf counterparts I dislike but thats okay ;D

[bubur]

Oh right female humans have a duplicate face ;D

So they do. Never noticed until now. But yup just doubled checked and confirmed. If you're looking for one of those, the left-right order on the reference grid I posted is sequential when using the right arrow on the char selection.

[Primordial Ooze]

I'm pleased they my Erudite female cleric with the green eyes will get the guise with the green eyes. Also corresponds to my favorite human and iksar female face, tho that's not really going to come up.

[Gustoo]

Awesome.pic

[Muggens]

Love the many-face picture

[bubur]

Interesting factoid: the face of Opal Darkbriar as a high elf wizard in the Freeport casters guild corresponds accurately to the face of Opal as a dark elf cleric in East Freeport

Not so mysterious. She just has a guise!... And maybe likes to rp as a cleric that can only nuke? I think I knew a few ppl on red that did that too

[Baler]

what patch does guise change items?
month/year

[Cen]

Interesting factoid: the face of Opal Darkbriar as a high elf wizard in the Freeport casters guild corresponds accurately to the face of Opal as a dark elf cleric in East Freeport

Not so mysterious. She just has a guise!... And maybe likes to rp as a cleric that can only nuke? I think I knew a few ppl on red that did that too

I heard she was either astral projecting, or controlling the other woman and using her name. Not sure which :p

[whitebandit]

I heard she was either astral projecting, or controlling the other woman and using her name. Not sure which :p

i need more eq lore in my life

[bubur]

added the reference images to the p99 fashion wiki page (https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Fashion#Predicting_Player_Illusions)

thx to Cen for the idea and Ashenden for beating me to sharing it. hope this wiki addition which anyone may edit is acceptable to yall who've looked into this

[Chortles Snort|eS]

I just did this also. Comparing with Ashenden's work, we appear to have come to the same results independently. I'm 90% sure this is accurate. Any enc on blue or green that can confirm would be wonderful.

Each column corresponds to faces with the same ID. If you pick a face in one of these columns, you can expect to guise into the dark elf at the top of that column (probably).

Male
https://i.imgur.com/QFTZTuk.jpg


Female
https://i.imgur.com/uzPYwfV.jpg

one eyed troll | DE face

confirmeD

[Ashenden]

People in for a surprise when there's no Face button in Green99.

[Baler]

People in for a surprise when there's no Face button in Green99.

does that actually work on blue? I always set the face I wanted for the rest of my career at character creation. :confused:

[zodium]

the only faces that matter

https://i.imgur.com/sMiSeHA.png

[Ashenden]

My version with EQ HD faces finished, and one female human face that was in the wrong spot fixed.

https://i.imgur.com/2pTyQ9U.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bKCuUMm.jpg

[DromalPhrenia]

the only faces that matter

https://i.imgur.com/sMiSeHA.png

DANIEL

[Chortles Snort|eS]

If I ever had 2 play humAn thereS only 1 choiCe

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/Npc_priest_of_discord.png