Number of Manastones that will drop

[ecurb_dlabihcra]

I've been trying to approximate the number of Manastones that will drop on Green, and estimate how that will affect prices of Manastones on blue when the servers eventually merge. Assuming constant poopsocking (almost guaranteed):

Evil eye spawns:
28 minute respawn
=~2 an hour x 24 hours/day
=48 a day x 30% spawn chance (approximating)
=14 EEs per day
X 7 months before legacy items cease
X 30 days / month
= 3024 total EE spawns
X 8% manastone drop rate
= 241 Manastones that will drop on Green

With over a thousand people trying to get one of these things, that doesn't sound like much!

How much do you think manastone prices will be when the servers merge? Assuming they're like 600-800k today, will they drop to 300k?

[Somekid123]

Trying to predict what manastones will be at merge? *eye roll*

[Polixa]

Add a factor for how many manastone owners will still be active players at blue/green merge?

[evilution]

Username checks out.

[Samaritan]

@OP - You and the people of your ilk are everything that is wrong with EQ.

Please stay on Blue. Thx.

[Albanwr]

What on earth is wrong with you, OP?

[bwe]

No one cares

[Cen]

I was not expecting this much hate. I did the same calculation for guises and people were happy :p

[ecurb_dlabihcra]

I was not expecting this much hate. I did the same calculation for guises and people were happy :p

Thank you Cen - my thoughts exactly.. . Holy shit. There are literally dozens of threads of people talking about how they are going to literally sit in front of their computers for 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight, and this harmless thought experiment gets just absolutely lambasted?

Yikes.

[evilution]

Thank you Cen - my thoughts exactly.. . Holy shit. There are literally dozens of threads of people talking about how they are going to literally sit in front of their computers for 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight, and this harmless thought experiment gets just absolutely lambasted?

Yikes.

There is no tolerance for math here. Math is not classic, it ruins the mystery that is EverQuest.

[Kubaton]

Prices will come down.
It will be overly socked by farmers looking to lock them up just as they did the first go round.
I predict GM's will do nothing about jerks (just like last time) FTE > social camp agreements

Most are going to green for this very reason only b/c of the merg. Several of us got C blocked and camps stolen from us back on the original launch. Its a vendetta issue + we want a damn stone to use

[Octopath]

Prices will come down.
It will be overly socked by farmers looking to lock them up just as they did the first go round.
I predict GM's will do nothing about jerks (just like last time) FTE > social camp agreements

well except for that whole list thing

[uygi]

I think there's going to be some serious traffic for manastone. That /list is going to be nuts; I really hope a character can only /list one thing at a time.

I understand manastone is powerful, but what are you really accomplishing with it? Wiz+epic is pretty good, but by the time you have epic what do you really need that ability for? Just doesn't sound like it makes the game more fun...

[FishBait01]

you are guaranteed one every 3 days if you no-life it.

thats my internal manastone clock, crafted over years of different probabilities of drop rates

if you only grind it in 12yr increments, your chances are 3x worse

[Gustoo]

The hate comes from the understanding of the twisted thought process behind OPs post. Like...OMG in 5 years blue manabones are gonna be worth less.

Like holy shit right now you can get one for the mere cost of a fistfull of fungis.

If you want one you can get one.

Then now and always

[Samaritan]

Thank you Cen - my thoughts exactly.. . Holy shit. There are literally dozens of threads of people talking about how they are going to literally sit in front of their computers for 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight, and this harmless thought experiment gets just absolutely lambasted?

Yikes.

If you would have broken down the math on the manastone camp, that would have been fine. There have been a few that have already done so, so it's not like you're telling the community something we didn't already know.

The issue was your last statment:

How much do you think manastone prices will be when the servers merge? Assuming they're like 600-800k today, will they drop to 300k?

You sound like an EC fatcat that's already pitching "Well, when Green merges the prices are really going to drop". Most of us view players like you negatively.

[Gustoo]

We're talking like 5 years before anything green hits blue. A very long time.

[fortior]

maybe p99 won't even be here in 5 years

[Madbad]

maybe p99 won't even be here in 5 years

stfu

[fortior]

stfu

maybe youll be dead in 5 years, its a long time

[kylok]

That escalated quickly

[Gustoo]

Lol this is good thread please move to resolved

[Polycaster]

I've been trying to approximate the number of Manastones that will drop on Green, and estimate how that will affect prices of Manastones on blue when the servers eventually merge.

11470

[Graventhel]

I was not expecting this much hate. I did the same calculation for guises and people were happy :p

Guises are a no-drop item mainly used for its "fun factor". The Manastone and its camp are the embodiment of greed made into pixel form

[Cen]

Guises are a no-drop item mainly used for its "fun factor". The Manastone and its camp are the embodiment of greed made into pixel form

Yeah. Though I always wanted to use a manastone on a Cleric or Druid. I wanted to see how good it feels ;D It's gotta be amazing to Manastone and then cast free CH from BP... but in classic zones only.

[Nuggie]

maybe p99 won't even be here in 5 years

You take it back! Why throw that type of negativity into the Universe?

[Tenlaar]

Yeah. Though I always wanted to use a manastone on a Cleric or Druid. I wanted to see how good it feels ;D It's gotta be amazing to Manastone and then cast free CH from BP... but in classic zones only.

That's why I'd like to try to get one myself, I think that a manastone would speed up leveling a druid and/or cleric alt and make it different and enjoyable enough that it's not totally overwhelming to get done by the time Kunark rolls around.

[Izmael]

I got my (45 ish then) cleric full HP gear and a manastone and went to Lower Guk to see how goes.

It works, you can solo. It's still 10x slower than duoing with an enc though. Pretty boring, too.

And if you want to be efficient, you need to stone down to like no HP, which means you're dependent on noone training any kind of mob near you as you will get low hp aggro and insta die.

[Deliverator]

I can definitely attest to quad kiting as a druid being much better at 34 when you have a manastone in your pocket. All hail Andain

[Chryorn]

How much do you think manastone prices will be when the servers merge? Assuming they're like 600-800k today, will they drop to 300k?
But the servers will merge again and again and again... Just calculate how many manastones will arrive on Blue over the next 127 years. You will have to give people money just to get rid of your manastones.

[Seungkyu]

Man, and I was planning on casually grabbing 3 manastones...

[Indecisive]

Where's the 8% drop rate come from? Is that a real number, or just a guess? Seems crazy low to me, as I would have thought it to be two or three times that number. Most other "rare" item drops are closer to 25% or higher.

[Forsh]

maybe youll be dead in 5 years

He's got a point.

[Gustoo]

It wasn't an excessively rare drop, so its probably 25% or higher.

No one really focused on OP's actual numbers just his painfully cringe assessment of values in blue EC tunnel.

[Baler]

Ideally people on the list will work together to kill the list mobs as fast as possible. This will make the list move faster and increase the kills per hour.

[Daldaen]

In classic *generally speaking* the drop rates for mobs with two items are 75% Common and 25% rare.

I don’t believe in an 8% Manastone drop rate.

[YmirEQ]

In classic *generally speaking* the drop rates for mobs with two items are 75% Common and 25% rare.

I don’t believe in an 8% Manastone drop rate.