AoW

[Naonak]

Great time at last AoW. Thanks so much on softening up AoW for Riot to finish off and get pixels.

Came across a AM-Detoxx post I found very funny, after watching AM and it's 6 alliances fail.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/632976920752947232/634374186009231360/unknown.png?width=874&height=212

Good times. Great Tunare kill for Riot today. Looking forward to another great cycle.

[Naonak]

Last cycle before Green release. Let's go

[Chortles Snort|eS]

1st 2nd

[beversami]

Have you hugged your "children" today?

[Rang]

Have you hugged your "children" today?

20 year old beta server elf sim pixels come first stern yikes

[branamil]

Where is detoxx in these trying times?

[imsorryGMs]

Congratulations on like the 300th AoW to spawn since velious

[Argh]

This one totally meant something

[shuklak]

Not the same anymore it takes hours to clear and it's just not worth the time. Plus wow was always better.

[steelwarrior]

a 5+ guild alliance getting AoW down to 45% at 4:30 AM on a weeknight, with next to zero, if not negative amount of communication going on is pretty impressive imo.

sry u lost statue again

[steelwarrior]

a 5+ guild alliance getting AoW down to 45% at 4:30 AM on a weeknight, with next to zero, if not negative amount of communication going on is pretty impressive imo.

sry u lost statue again

Oh and if i'm not mistaken, Aftermath won both the statue FTE and the Tunare FTE


sweet zerg tho

[feniin]

Oh and if i'm not mistaken, Aftermath won both the statue FTE and the Tunare FTE


sweet zerg thosorry your guild is dead.

[bradsamma]

Oh and if i'm not mistaken, Aftermath won both the statue FTE and the Tunare FTE


sweet zerg tho


How many did they have? Was it more than your typical riot zerg?

[Molitoth]

sry u lost statue again

AM loses COTH races on statue... blames cheating.
AM gets rules changed to racing.
AM loses races on statue... blames cheating. (Kelz [AM] owns the fastest time)
AM gets rules changed back to COTH.
AM wins COTH races... still loses.

Awaiting next rule change...

[Dman2701]

Riot had 69 people
AM/AG/Aegis had 97 people

[keen]

Was wondering how long it would take for Riot people to turn into fuckbags who talk shit when others wipe, while their zerg sits in the wings waiting to leapfrog the mob. The new douchebags of the server, bragging about their kills when 90% of them are uncontested while talking shit to the people who try to contest and fail. Cool story bro. I bet those 500+ active raiders you have feel real accomplished when they get the pixels they want with no competition at all. Hope those 60 man fear golems are loads of fun!

[Dman2701]

Keen , I don't think you understand what leapfrogging means, considering that's the only way AM knows how to raid in NTOV i would think you would be more familiar with it.

Leapfrogging is when Riot clears all the trash and flurry's and AM sits back and waits for the right moment to leapfrop over Riot while they are engage with another mob, so AM can FTE the named mob. Example..see Lord Koi this last cycle

What Riot did was wait for you to wipe and engage an unagroed mob , see AG with King Tormax last cycle when Aftermath/Aegis wiped.

[Erati]

fuckbags
:o

[Endonde]

Was wondering how long it would take for Riot people to turn into fuckbags who talk shit when others wipe, while their zerg sits in the wings waiting to leapfrog the mob. The new douchebags of the server, bragging about their kills when 90% of them are uncontested while talking shit to the people who try to contest and fail. Cool story bro. I bet those 500+ active raiders you have feel real accomplished when they get the pixels they want with no competition at all. Hope those 60 man fear golems are loads of fun!

Most of the Riot members shit talking are former casual players who spent years being picked on by AM, so now they wanna repay the favor. I don't really agree with the shit talk though, it's kind of like shit talking a special needs kid.

Everything else you said though is pretty dumb, AM loved their era of no competition but now that it's another guild benefiting you think it's boring?

[Wonkie]

Was wondering how long it would take for Riot people to turn into fuckbags who talk shit when others wipe, while their zerg sits in the wings waiting to leapfrog the mob. The new douchebags of the server, bragging about their kills when 90% of them are uncontested while talking shit to the people who try to contest and fail. Cool story bro. I bet those 500+ active raiders you have feel real accomplished when they get the pixels they want with no competition at all. Hope those 60 man fear golems are loads of fun!

good thread

[Damarous]

Most of the Riot members shit talking are former casual players who spent years being picked on by AM, so now they wanna repay the favor. I don't really agree with the shit talk though, it's kind of like shit talking a special needs kid.

Everything else you said though is pretty dumb, AM loved their era of no competition but now that it's another guild benefiting you think it's boring?

I wish this was true. However my interactions with Riot on the whole have shown that they are just now the assholes picking on casuals. New biggest and best right? Don't have time to follow rules or be kind to the casuals, too many mobs to kill for that shit right?

[Endonde]

I wish this was true. However my interactions with Riot on the whole have shown that they are just now the assholes picking on casuals. New biggest and best right? Don't have time to follow rules or be kind to the casuals, too many mobs to kill for that shit right?

Having been a member of both AM and Riot I can say that for the most part the leadership of Riot goes out of there way to try and be good to casual guilds, and are generally pretty good about following the rules. AM had a general dislike for casual guilds when I was a member there.

If you have a specific instance of wrong doing you should name and shame and let the court of public opinion decide.

[baakss]

I wish this was true. However my interactions with Riot on the whole have shown that they are just now the assholes picking on casuals.

Be more specific. Who/What/When/Where/Why?

[Damarous]

Plane of sky, ToV(HoT) etc etc. It's kind of a regular thing. So no specific single instance to reference. Being a member of a casual guild, it's quite common to get shit on by Riot. I will say their leadership is quite nice. However; nice leadership doesn't make a consistent issue any less shitty to be on the receiving end of.

[feniin]

Be more specific. Who/What/When/Where/Why?

It didn't happen. Don't think he can give you specifics about an event he just made up.

[Damarous]

Can't edit, so throw this as an P.S.

I will say, I don't think we have ever really competed for mobs with AM, so I can't speak to that, however regular interactions with Riot have shown they just don't give a shit. So /shrug.

[Endonde]

Plane of sky, ToV(HoT) etc etc. It's kind of a regular thing. So no specific single instance to reference. Being a member of a casual guild, it's quite common to get shit on by Riot. I will say their leadership is quite nice. However; nice leadership doesn't make a consistent issue any less shitty to be on the receiving end of.

Well Sky is a rotation, so not sure what your issue is there, and I don't think Riot has done HoT in almost a month or more now?

[feniin]

Can't edit, so throw this as an P.S.

I will say, I don't think we have ever really competed for mobs with AM, so I can't speak to that, however regular interactions with Riot have shown they just don't give a shit. So /shrug.

Oh, what guild is that? I don't think Riot competes against anyone other than Aftermath+Aegis or Azure Guard.

[baakss]

Plane of sky, ToV(HoT) etc etc. It's kind of a regular thing. So no specific single instance to reference. Being a member of a casual guild, it's quite common to get shit on by Riot. I will say their leadership is quite nice. However; nice leadership doesn't make a consistent issue any less shitty to be on the receiving end of.

Plane of sky...? Dawn Believers? I think we went late on sky one week and apologized?

What am I missing?

[Damarous]

Well Sky is a rotation, so not sure what your issue is there, and I don't think Riot has done HoT in almost a month or more now?

Well, I haven't kept track really, considering we have had consistent issues since RIOT formed, so it's possible they aren't raiding HoT anymore? Beats me honestly.

Re: sky rotation, it's nice to have a rotation, however when you can't stick to the rules of the rotation it really doesn't mean much. We consistently are blocked from content in sky due to Riot not clearing during their slot and moving into ours.

[Damarous]

Plane of sky...? Dawn Believers? I think we went late on sky one week and apologized?

What am I missing?

Yep, dawn believers. It's great when earthquakes/repops are on sundays, we can actually do sky content instead of being constrained to islands 1-4 or 7

[baakss]

Re: sky rotation, it's nice to have a rotation, however when you can't stick to the rules of the rotation it really doesn't mean much. We consistently are blocked from content in sky due to Riot not clearing during their slot and moving into ours.

Has this been forwarded to leadership? I mean I don't believe we think we're pushing into the DB rotation slot on a regular basis, otherwise it'd be addressed.

There was one week that was late for sure, but since then none that I can think of.

Maybe it's simply a timing issue that should be worked out?

[baakss]

Yep, dawn believers. It's great when earthquakes/repops are on sundays, we can actually do sky content instead of being constrained to islands 1-4 or 7

Well Island 6 we rotate with you guys due to the 12 hour respawn. Island 5 should be an 8 hour respawn?

[Damarous]

Has this been forwarded to leadership? I mean I don't believe we think we're pushing into the DB rotation slot on a regular basis, otherwise it'd be addressed.

There was one week that was late for sure, but since then none that I can think of.

Maybe it's simply a timing issue that should be worked out?

We spent a literal month chasing leadership minimum once a week, we've also petitioned regarding issues. No response from anything. Server's favorite raiding guild can do no wrong and gives no shits.

[feniin]

Re: sky rotation, it's nice to have a rotation, however when you can't stick to the rules of the rotation it really doesn't mean much. We consistently are blocked from content in sky due to Riot not clearing during their slot and moving into ours.

Sounds like your leadership needs to talk to Arthion or Planarity.

[feniin]

We spent a literal month chasing leadership minimum once a week, we've also petitioned regarding issues. No response from anything. Server's favorite raiding guild can do no wrong and gives no shits.

There's leadership on nearly 24/7. And a UN channel. And discord. And the forums.

[Damarous]

Sounds like your leadership needs to talk to Arthion or Planarity.

Honestly at this point, it's more fun to talk shit in RnF. Got burned out chasing raid leaders/officers in RIOT with no resolution. Kind of burned out on it at this point.

[Damarous]

There's leadership on nearly 24/7. And a UN channel. And discord. And the forums.

Let me rephrase:

We would reach out to people regarding issues, get a different name every time we asked; was told "oh, we'll take care of it it won't happen again" cue it happening again at the earliest possible time.

[Endonde]

Well, I haven't kept track really, considering we have had consistent issues since RIOT formed, so it's possible they aren't raiding HoT anymore? Beats me honestly.

Re: sky rotation, it's nice to have a rotation, however when you can't stick to the rules of the rotation it really doesn't mean much. We consistently are blocked from content in sky due to Riot not clearing during their slot and moving into ours.

Well this is an issue that has existed as long as the rotation unfortunately, because certain mobs are 12 hour spawns it creates a situation where it's pretty much impossible for every slot to always be guaranteed the 12 hour spawns, simply because there isn't enough time in the day.

I understand how it can be frustrating for Dawn Believers to not always be able to kill the 12 hour mobs, but it's my understanding that the guilds had a system in place to essentially rotate on which guild would be killing the 12 hour mobs that week.

[Damarous]

Well this is an issue that has existed as long as the rotation unfortunately, because certain mobs are 12 hour spawns it creates a situation where it's pretty much impossible for every slot to always be guaranteed the 12 hour spawns, simply because there isn't enough time in the day.

I understand how it can be frustrating for Dawn Believers to not always be able to kill the 12 hour mobs, but it's my understanding that the guilds had a system in place to essentially rotate on which guild would be killing the 12 hour mobs that week.

We had a solid agreement with PS prior to RIOT's creation and rarely if ever had an issue, so it seems more like you just want to say "stop bitching" more than "sorry for your luck".

We don't need every island every weekend, just adherence to an agreement would be nice really. Right now we have to plan our sky raids when we port up to sky because we have no idea what will be up.

Last week spiroc lord didn't spawn until 11pm eastern

[Endonde]

We had a solid agreement with PS prior to RIOT's creation and rarely if ever had an issue, so it seems more like you just want to say "stop bitching" more than "sorry for your luck".

We don't need every island every weekend, just adherence to an agreement would be nice really. Right now we have to plan our sky raids when we port up to sky because we have no idea what will be up.

Last week spiroc lord didn't spawn until 11pm eastern

I'm not at all saying to stop bitching, I'm just saying the sky rotation isn't perfect and these situations are inevitable unfortunately.

I can understand the frustration, but also don't see where Riot is deliberately breaking any rules, or trying to screw over DB, seems like they just wanna do Sky just like you do.

[Damarous]

I'm not at all saying to stop bitching, I'm just saying the sky rotation isn't perfect and these situations are inevitable unfortunately.

I can understand the frustration, but also don't see where Riot is deliberately breaking any rules, or trying to screw over DB, seems like they just wanna do Sky just like you do.

Fair statement. This is however RnF and fair statements definitely don't belong here. So take your logic and gtfo :D:p

I'm not particularly looking for any kind of resolution to any of my greivances, just pointing out the narrative that RIOT is the casuals who used to get shit on by AM now shitting on AM doesn't apply only to AM. They tend to shit on anyone in their way.

Been with DB for nearly a year, had months of flawless sky days when PS was doing morning slot, then had (and have) endless issues with RIOT once they formed. I mean, it seems kind of funny that there were no issues until leadership changed.

At one point we were literally told that we would get bees when RIOT didn't want them. I don't recall if a new agreement (as PS was absorbed by riot and we had an agreement with them) was ever formed, or if we are just taking what we can get at this time. /shrug

[Bbeta]

Tl;Dr

[feniin]

Leadership of PS is leadership of Riot, by and large. Especially the ones doing Sky weekly.

[baakss]

At one point we were literally told that we would get bees when RIOT didn't want them.

I would be absolutely amazed if that came from any officer. Would definitely like to know who said it.

[Damarous]

Leadership of PS is leadership of Riot, by and large. Especially the ones doing Sky weekly.

For 4 weeks in a row we got a different name for the sky raid leader in riot. None of them were people we had previously worked with from PS. So I guess there was some initial turn over. Glad it seems to have leveled out!

[Damarous]

c'mon guys, this is RnF, where baseless accusations are the norm. Now you guys are all grilling me over a comment? :-P <3

[k9quaint]

So, was the book up or not?
If so, was there stuttering?

[Damarous]

So, was the book up or not?
If so, was there stuttering?

Book not up, no stuttering occurred :D :cool:

[Argh]

Sky rotation has always sucked, especially for people who share days. One of you isn't going to get bees. There is no hard cut-off in the am/pm slots of the sky rotation, and anyone who has shared a slot has gone through the same situation.

You have to come to some agreement about it with the guilds on your day, the next day, and the previous day. The situation won't just resolve itself, and now that GMs have suspended people for breaking player made agreements (specifically regarding sky), I wouldn't expect many guilds to be very eager to enter into them.

[planarity]

We had a solid agreement with PS prior to RIOT's creation and rarely if ever had an issue, so it seems more like you just want to say "stop bitching" more than "sorry for your luck".

We don't need every island every weekend, just adherence to an agreement would be nice really. Right now we have to plan our sky raids when we port up to sky because we have no idea what will be up.

Last week spiroc lord didn't spawn until 11pm eastern

This one's a no-brainer, happy to work with you to make sure we don't step on each others' toes. This is the first I'm hearing about there being any issues there, I assumed you guys were working everything out with Arthion, since you guys worked with PS for Sunday sky in the past. Did you mention anything to him? Ping either of us and we'll make sure it's addressed.

As for HoT, it's something we've typically done just when stuff isn't in window and when nobody else is in there. We had some issues where people in other guilds were upset that riot was in there when they were looking to start their regular/weekly HoT. So we made a list of all the "scheduled" HoT raids and we made sure we don't go at those times. I assume any issue with HoT was some time ago. Ping me or Arthion if anything comes up.

As for the OP, I am not a fan of these types of posts. It's fairly cringy and we try to promote a culture of being above this sort of thing, though we don't have any rules against them.
There is a (small) difference, though, between having a laugh at AM's shit-talking being applied to them as they find themselves in the exact situation we were in, and just talking your own shit because you're classless. you won't find riot leadership making these types of posts in rnf (as AM's leadership constantly did), or saying "grats rest of the server" or other salty things in ooc when some other guilds team up to kill something, and on and on. They'd like to think we're just as bad as they were, but it's not even close.

[Damarous]

Sky rotation has always sucked, especially for people who share days. One of you isn't going to get bees. There is no hard cut-off in the am/pm slots of the sky rotation, and anyone who has shared a slot has gone through the same situation.

You have to come to some agreement about it with the guilds on your day, the next day, and the previous day. The situation won't just resolve itself, and now that GMs have suspended people for breaking player made agreements (specifically regarding sky), I wouldn't expect many guilds to be very eager to enter into them.

Oh, for sure. I could have come in here and complained that we were getting the short end of the stick since the days of PS (old agreement was every third week we would get bees), but I didn't. I just specified issues not related specifically to the rotation (poor communication, revolving door of raid leaders so no consistency, etc).

At this point any time we have an issue in sky the first response from the majority of our guild in discord is a collective groan and "what did riot do this time?"

As a guild of casuals, I was just taking issue with the statement that riot is the casuals that AM used to shit on returning the favor :-P

[Damarous]

This one's a no-brainer, happy to work with you to make sure we don't step on each others' toes. This is the first I'm hearing about there being any issues there, I assumed you guys were working everything out with Arthion, since you guys worked with PS for Sunday sky in the past. Did you mention anything to him? Ping either of us and we'll make sure it's addressed.

As for HoT, it's something we've typically done just when stuff isn't in window and when nobody else is in there. We had some issues where people in other guilds were upset that riot was in there when they were looking to start their regular/weekly HoT. So we made a list of all the "scheduled" HoT raids and we made sure we don't go at those times. I assume any issue with HoT was some time ago. Ping me or Arthion if anything comes up.

As for the OP, I am not a fan of these types of posts. It's fairly cringy and we try to promote a culture of being above this sort of thing, though we don't have any rules against them.
There is a (small) difference, though, between having a laugh at AM's shit-talking being applied to them as they find themselves in the exact situation we were in, and just talking your own shit because you're classless. you won't find riot leadership making these types of posts in rnf (as AM's leadership constantly did), or saying "grats rest of the server" or other salty things in ooc when some other guilds team up to kill something, and on and on. They'd like to think we're just as bad as they were, but it's not even close.

Appreciate your response :-). I really didn't expect this to blow up like it did. I was just trying to post in RnF :-P. Sorry I derailed the thread and whatnot. :lol:

P.S. I'll make sure someone reaches out if we have an issue in the future :-)

[Erati]

At this point any time we have an issue in sky the first response from the majority of our guild in discord is a collective groan and "what did riot do this time?"


This is pretty misrepresented as it is likely the case that 'its usually Riot' bc we take up the Sky slot before yours. So logically of course if there is a perceived slight to your Sky day its Riots fault...

That totally misrepresents what I quoted tho which insinuates we are constantly causing DB problems outside of Sky.

[Damarous]

This is pretty misrepresented as it is likely the case that 'its usually Riot' bc we take up the Sky slot before yours. So logically of course if there is a perceived slight to your Sky day its Riots fault...

That totally misrepresents what I quoted tho which insinuates we are constantly causing DB problems outside of Sky.

Very fair. Like I said, I was caught off guard. I just wanted to shit post and now i'm being asked to provide logical things like events and situations :-P

<3

We have had issues outside of sky, but honestly, I haven't kept track, so I only referenced what I knew to be true/fact :-D

[Kaezyr D`Shiv]

Well, it was fun while it lasted. I have it on good authority that Riot wiped to Vindi today because they had less than 30 raiders for it...

[feniin]

The audacity!

[Solist]

Pretty hardcore cringe at OP.

Being on top is temporary. Gloating is ridiculous, server is beaten. The top slot is a game of attrition and now more than ever is that the case.

Suppose when you’re new to being on top it’s easy to get drawn in to ‘winning poorly’ but there’s a pride and satisfaction knowing you’re not the shitlord cesspool type of ‘on top’ like certain others have been.

[Naonak]

All fun and games.

Why some peeps so serious?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456268331196874766/634968219685486592/rc2.jpg

Usual pre/post cycle haning with the bro's. Missing Ratchet from pic

[imsorryGMs]

Well, it was fun while it lasted. I have it on good authority that Riot wiped to Vindi today because they had less than 30 raiders for it...

Good ol vindi

[Gatordash]

As for the OP, I am not a fan of these types of posts. It's fairly cringy and we try to promote a culture of being above this sort of thing, though we don't have any rules against them.

you won't find riot leadership making these types of posts in rnf (as AM's leadership constantly did), or saying "grats rest of the server" or other salty things in ooc when some other guilds team up to kill something, and on and on. They'd like to think we're just as bad as they were, but it's not even close.

I for one am glad that Planarity is taking this most genuine and sincere stance here on RnF to show how Riot is against this negative toxicity. Riot is a top down culture guild, and I'm delighted to hear how he leads by example and would never throw around pointless insults that just add negativity to our community here on P99.

Thank you Planarity!

Also, "suck my dick" **All Riot members cheer**

[feniin]

Edgy

[azeth]

I assume any issue with HoT was some time ago...

*Raises hand*

[Molitoth]

*Raises hand*

... and Azeth disappeared. =(

[reznor_]

Great time at last AoW. Thanks so much on softening up AoW for Riot to finish off and get pixels.

Came across a AM-Detoxx post I found very funny, after watching AM and it's 6 alliances fail.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/632976920752947232/634374186009231360/unknown.png?width=874&height=212

Good times. Great Tunare kill for Riot today. Looking forward to another great cycle.


Cringing for you, bud.

[Bardp1999]

OP the server has been beaten for a long time, Jesus Christ go outside

https://i.imgur.com/7G2YARt.gif

[shuklak]

Ahem.

He died for us so that this might be possible.

[saftbudet]

Sky rotation has always sucked, especially for people who share days. One of you isn't going to get bees. There is no hard cut-off in the am/pm slots of the sky rotation, and anyone who has shared a slot has gone through the same situation.

You have to come to some agreement about it with the guilds on your day, the next day, and the previous day. The situation won't just resolve itself, and now that GMs have suspended people for breaking player made agreements (specifically regarding sky), I wouldn't expect many guilds to be very eager to enter into them.

There is already a handful guilds that are on rotation that cannot clear sky even if they wanted.

[imsorryGMs]

... and Azeth disappeared. =(

Like, Thanos snapping his finger disappeared? Or Tony Stark dies in Endgame disappear?

[aaezil]

Not the same anymore it takes hours to clear and it's just not worth the time. Plus wow was always better.

If you start losing the competitions just make the excuses!

All better now

[gendarme]

Naonak, Riot has no skill.
they just zerg.
throwing bodies at a raid boss.
only a few notable people in riot has skill to FTE. the rest of you are just leeching off those 3-4 players.
take them out of the equation Riot is nothing.

[shuklak]

Naonak, Riot has no skill.
they just zerg.
throwing bodies at a raid boss.
only a few notable people in riot has skill to FTE. the rest of you are just leeching off those 3-4 players.
take them out of the equation Riot is nothing.
That's pretty much the MO of every single guild that's ever killed a raid boss in Everquest.

[Nirgon]

Time to FLusH bLuE

[Boyblunder]

Naonak, Riot has no skill.
they just zerg.
throwing bodies at a raid boss.
only a few notable people in riot has skill to FTE. the rest of you are just leeching off those 3-4 players.
take them out of the equation Riot is nothing.

Killing AoW with 69 is now considered a zerg, ok skippy.

[kaizersoze]

AM loses COTH races on statue... blames cheating.
AM gets rules changed to racing.
AM loses races on statue... blames cheating. (Kelz [AM] owns the fastest time)
AM gets rules changed back to COTH.
AM wins COTH races... still loses.

Awaiting next rule change...

scrubs who should step away from the keyboard to take a shower will be scrubs.