Not tipping on CR port - why?

[Jimjam]

It's not like you melee aren't bound in a city with a bank.

Show some gratitude to the guy that helps you get your 1000s pp worth of gear back.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/TkTPQxY.jpg

[PieOats]

OP as a member of one of the wealthiest classes in Norrath demanding tribute of platinum pieces from Norrath's lowliest class.


DISgraceful...

[beversami]

Not offering a free corpse run for a naked melee?

Show some gratitude to the guys that let you make crazy amounts of plat by clicking a spell.

[kotton05]

I’ll give you just the tip

[Canelek]

It'll be nice for a while on the new box. The availability of ports shrinks the world quite a bit. Plus newer players can get off their fat hobbit asses and walk for a bit, or take a ride on a (totally stable) boat.

[Bazia]

https://i.imgur.com/TkTPQxY.jpg

good ole "lucky larry" upped his insurance policy massively a few months before the attack occured

[shuklak]

Not offering a free corpse run for a naked melee?

Show some gratitude to the guys that let you make crazy amounts of plat by clicking a spell.

You aren't tipping for them to click the spell, you're tipping for them for wasting their lives.

[AgentEpilot]

We're all wasting our lives in this blessed game.

[Swish]

Dial A Port have epics guys, remember that.

[Fammaden]

Its marketing.

In DaP the use of words like "tips" or "donations" are discouraged. Its a paid service. But the optics are bad if you force minimums or fee schedules on people. So by saying "corpse runs always free" you imply that normal non CR ports are NOT free. Its a nice way of saying, "your ass has money you aren't naked and dead, pay up".

[Teppler]

good ole "lucky larry" upped his insurance policy massively a few months before the attack occured

You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million

Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.

Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.

Another little “coincidence” -- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.

Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.

[Jimjam]

You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million

Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.

Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.

Another little “coincidence” -- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.

Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.

Now thats lucky!

[Jimjam]

Except for all the dieing and stuff.

[Jimjam]

But back on topic, it costs circa 900 mana to port to you, you to your destination and then for the porter to go back to where they were. Medding at 2 mana per second that represents almost 8 minutes of medding. Porting you is not a simple inconvenience of clicking a button. And for dedicated porters we are ignoring the time it takes to even get to the porting levels.

I'm not a dap stooge trying to increase my own worth. I'm an idiot who dies a lot, but attempts to compensate those who are inconcenienced by my mistake.

Why is there an expectation to bail out the mistakes of bad players?

If you left your wallet on your corpse get off the bus. Bind near bank (or somewhere where you can farm a couple of plat naked) and make some effort. Maybe if you bothered to make effort you wouldn't have died to begin with?

[Chortles Snort|eS]

triple post mad

[Teppler]

I’m sure Lucky Larry cares about those peasants with his 4.7 billion.

He’s even more lucky than you think. He skipped his usual brunch at the top of one of the towers on 9/11 because of a doctors appointment. His son and daughter who also has worked in the towers were running late and missed the attacks too.

Geez what kind of horseshoe does Lucky Larry have? I want it.

[Jimjam]

I’m sure Lucky Larry cares about those peasants with his 4.7 billion.

He’s even more lucky than you think. He skipped his usual brunch at the top of one of the towers on 9/11 because of a doctors appointment. His son and daughter who also has worked in the towers were running late and missed the attacks too.

Geez what kind of horseshoe does Lucky Larry have? I want it.

Hmmm... I wonder if he likes Family guy.

[Mblake81]

8 minutes for 50ish plat. How long does it take a druid of such level to kill a Hill Giant with the hopes it drops more than 300 copper.

[BlackBellamy]

People accumulate all that plat - it's crazy there's no interest on it. I'm never liquid. If I have plat in the bank it makes me nervous, like why isn't that money working for me? Why hasn't it turned into an item yet that makes my character better?

Then I need a port and I'm like ahhhh so that's going to be half my money?

I need to strike a balance here.

[Worry]

Porting ruins the immersion of the world. Ban ports.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

As someone who used to play a cleric and get innumerable messages from people asking for rezes i didnt expect anything if they were close.

SOmetimes i got a bit salty if people didnt at least offer to pay. Even with an epic it was a pain to get to some of the dumb places people died then have to wait for someone to drag their corpse.

My rule of thumb is at least 5-10pp for a port atm. If for some reason I have less than 5pp (i cant imagine why i would anymore)i just tell them upfront im broke and giving them even 1pp is like 25% of my money and they can decide if my charity case shit is worth it )

[boffius]

i port for free, CR or not. i can probably count on 2 hands the number of times i've accepted donations, and usually it's when someone insists after i've cancelled the first trade they've offered, or if they tip via /split and i don't have an opportunity to pay them back or don't wanna bother with it. why?

playing EQ is a form of entertainment, and quite a time sink. running from place to place is one of the tedious parts that is ... less entertaining. i remember slowly running my war around, and slowly going broke paying for ports to avoid that. with the wiz, i can save other people both of those hassles. and within my guild, the favor is returned and i don't pay for ports on my other toons (i still offer modest tips if i have to go outside the guild).

if your enjoyment of EQ comes from accumulating plat, great, have fun with that. but don't feel automatically entitled to leech off other players to do it. it's only play money, FFS.

[Nirgon]

We're all wasting our lives in this blessed game.

So, like any other hobby

[BlackBellamy]

So, like any other hobby

Hi dad, what's going on, you still doing that woodworking?

Yeah, I made you an armoire, but I didn't have time to stain it because I've been repairing every car in the neighborhood. You staying for dinner? I'm going out for my run right now but when I get back it's my famous steak time! You know how I love to cook!

Ok dad, I'm just going to get on the internet for a bit while you're gone.

[btravis1990]

Until druids stop turning on "AFK" or literally just being dicks and saying No for CR I could care less they didnt get a tip for a CR that they usually only took because they had a paid person going there anyway.

DaP has some very nice people (who I friend and personally use over and over again) but a lot of scum mixed in it.

#whereisDAPHumanrescourcesdepartment?

[shuklak]

People accumulate all that plat - it's crazy there's no interest on it. I'm never liquid. If I have plat in the bank it makes me nervous, like why isn't that money working for me? Why hasn't it turned into an item yet that makes my character better?

Then I need a port and I'm like ahhhh so that's going to be half my money?

I need to strike a balance here.

That's when you simply give item donations. Just keep all that garbage that's nearly impossible to sell, but vendors for nothing, so you donate it and get the full deduction!

[Danth]

Hi dad, what's going on, you still doing that woodworking?

Yeah, I made you an armoire, but I didn't have time to stain it because I've been repairing every car in the neighborhood. You staying for dinner? I'm going out for my run right now but when I get back it's my famous steak time! You know how I love to cook!

Ok dad, I'm just going to get on the internet for a bit while you're gone.

Advantage: Video games. Wont' slip with an X-acto knife and split your fingernail in half down the middle. Did that once. Not a good time.

Danth

[GnomeCaptain]

This bad troll thread has inspired me to tip druids less than I already do.

[BlackBellamy]

Advantage: Video games. Wont' slip with an X-acto knife and split your fingernail in half down the middle. Did that once. Not a good time.

Danth

Yeah, that reminds me when I ran a Stanley utility knife full force across the top of my thumb and forefinger when I was trying to lift my Jeep. Man offroading was an awesome hobby I think I died like twelve times.

[Donkey Hotay]

I have a DaP porter and have no complaints with it, except that the guild itself is tiresome because the membership churn means there's a new set of noobs every month.
*can someone log the rezzer*
*is anyone casting PotG*

I will say that I learned not to port from EC because there was a high percentage of folks who were either bound there or stripped off to port out for free. Also, if you're one of these LawyerQuesters who think you can turn our guild slogan into "you have to come pick me up at this place that isn't a druid ring", you are wrong.

[shuklak]

Sounds like, Dial A Millennial

[Tethler]

Just don't port naked people if you don't want to do CR ports? Unless you're in DaP, then you just feign AFK.

[Teppler]

I always tip 50 plat for ports. I'm counting on good will when I need those CR ports. Don't mess this up for me, people.

[momotion]

Imagine showing people than you are poor in a video game ,,, always 100 for me so I doesn't wait more than 30sec

[sacman08]

There have been a couple of time where I actually had no plat in the bank to tip for a CR. Thanks to those that ported me for free. I don't request money to port on my druid either, but will gladly accept donations. If you feel you need a tip maybe mention in tell up front?

[Cecily]

Just do what I did. Play for 6 years nonstop and make a few hundred k and give your account info to someone who may or may not have stripped all your stuff, but you can't be bothered to check because video games on estrogen is like trying to use Winamp on shrooms.

[Tethler]

Just do what I did. Play for 6 years nonstop and make a few hundred k and give your account info to someone who may or may not have stripped all your stuff, but you can't be bothered to check because video games on estrogen is like trying to use Winamp on shrooms.

None of that has anything at all to do with tipping or not tipping for CR ports. Stop trying to make every thread about you.

[reznor_]

I never tipped for CR ports and I wouldn’t expect anyone to do so, either. I thought that was just part of the unspoken rule here, because that’s how it went when I started playing in 2017. Tried to tip on my first CR in NRO or something, or would say something like “remind me to pay you when I have my corpse” and the nice person who ported me would say “not necessary”. Granted my CR is never too bad because I do bind myself...

I liked that social contract. I try to do the same, I never charge for rezzes. I travel to the 1-50 zones and hand them out sometimes because I know xp loss is shitty. I do get tipped, sometimes, which is very nice of the person. For ports, I always give 60pp (1/level). It gets expensive sometimes but that’s a service I’m ok to pay for.

Side note, if I’m bored, I *do* respond to people /shouting “offering 300pp for a Rez in zone X”. (That’s how I make my port money ;) )

[Cecily]

None of that has anything at all to do with tipping or not tipping for CR ports. Stop trying to make every thread about you.

60 Druid alt. Your argument is invalid.

[Tethler]

60 Druid alt. Your argument is invalid.

You've almost made it to the thread topic. Just a little more and you'll get it!

[Donkey Hotay]

You've almost made it to the thread topic. Just a little more and you'll get it!

Ignore and isolate and the problem takes care of itself at over a 40% rate, or so I hear ;^).

[Cecily]

You've almost made it to the thread topic. Just a little more and you'll get it!

Porting is not a legitimate strategy to accumulate platinum.

[fuckshit22]

Until druids stop turning on "AFK" or literally just being dicks and saying No for CR I could care less they didnt get a tip for a CR that they usually only took because they had a paid person going there anyway.

DaP has some very nice people (who I friend and personally use over and over again) but a lot of scum mixed in it.

#whereisDAPHumanrescourcesdepartment?

have you tried dying less and expecting free shit from people all the time? nah fuck personal responsibility, theyre OBLIGATED, to port you. eat shit and take the boat you baby.

[fuckshit22]

Just do what I did. Play for 6 years nonstop and make a few hundred k and give your account info to someone who may or may not have stripped all your stuff, but you can't be bothered to check because video games on estrogen is like trying to use Winamp on shrooms.

to summarize the worst guide ever:

step 1: play way too much eq
step 2: ???
step 3: talk about giving your account away so you dont have to prove accomplishing anything
step 4: hate your gender.

you suck

[shuklak]

If you aren't tipping at least 2x your level then you're probably poor irl. Poverty mindset through and through .

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Recently ive only been able to afford 5pp a pop (spells made me poor)

I do mana song when i join the group to try and help out with mana.

I have no issue with 10pp when i have more cash though. Im lv 23 (first char on P1999)

[Jimjam]

If you aren't tipping at least 2x your level then you're probably poor irl. Poverty mindset through and through .

"I'm not going to respect you if you give me a cheap quote. I deal with big numbers. I need to see you are on my level."

[Cecily]

to summarize the worst guide ever:

step 1: play way too much eq
step 2: ???
step 3: talk about giving your account away so you dont have to prove accomplishing anything
step 4: hate your gender.

you suck

Aktually... It's

1. Hate your gender
2. Play way to much EQ
3. Beat EQ
4. Make cretins like you froth at the mouth

It's too easy. Have I mentioned I'm a trans woman?

[shuklak]

What is the defining point at which someone beats eq?

[Cecily]

What is the defining point at which someone beats eq?

Whenever the shakes and night sweats stop.

[shuklak]

Whenever the shakes and night sweats stop.

That's an interesting take and the closest thing to an acceptable resolution that I've ever heard.

[Tethler]

Porting is not a legitimate strategy to accumulate platinum.

Well, it's certainly a less efficient use of time than just getting 60 and killing things that drop stuff worth actual money, I'll give you that.

[Cecily]

I never actively ported people, because it seemed like too much brain rot to auction porting services, herdstray cats, and med to do it again. For, how do you say, not so many platinums. I've always said hill giants tip better. I did, however, opportunistically port people who seemed in a hurry or were offering acceptable payments. 100p here and there keeps the pocket change going.

Camping items is bad money, too. The time investment between getting the thing and selling the thing makes the baby Jesus cry, and god damn I hope someone prays for the lost souls who think camping King for 12+ hours is fun. The better alternative is to use and abuse raiding guilds. When you don't need platinum, you gain it passively while playing the game for fun and only spend on providing a living wage porting fare, I always did 75p, for the muck-racking peasants who think porting is a good way to make money.

[Cecily]

The reason people don't tip on CR ports is because you all play female wood elf druids who worship the mother of all, and kids with boo-boos need a fucking hug sometimes.

Don't play the helper class if you're not compassionate enough to wanna... help people.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/fTI3Dbr.gif

[ReadOnly]

When I see you /oocing an actual price per port instead of begging for tips, you'll earn the right to start complaining.

[Sonark]

I love when people bring out the calculators and decided to try and act like their time is actually worth an in-game currency.

[Argh]

Serious question: who keeps plat in the bank?

[Invalid_Bard]

Serious question: who keeps plat in the bank?
WTF IS A BANK

[Wutaan]

It's too easy. Have I mentioned I'm a trans woman?

Lmao, you're a man, dog.

[Jimjam]

The reason people don't tip on CR ports is because you all play female wood elf druids who worship the mother of all, and kids with boo-boos need a fucking hug sometimes.

Don't play the helper class if you're not compassionate enough to wanna... help people.

We need more people like you. Ones that remember the game is meant to be about the fun of assuming false personas and forging narratives.

[Jimjam]

Serious question: who keeps plat in the bank?

Beg/pickpocket/disarm some guards 😉 ;)

[Tethler]

The better alternative is to use and abuse raiding guilds.

Yeesh, I can't even imagine having this kind of mindset. Whatever works for you though.

[Niedar]

tipping culture is the worst, if you expect payment for a service then charge a fee. Fuck this porting for tips bullshit.

[Wenai]

It's not like you melee aren't bound in a city with a bank.

Show some gratitude to the guy that helps you get your 1000s pp worth of gear back.

Didn’t read the whole thread. But I have had people unequip their visible gear and ask for a CR port. So now I always inspect before I port people.

[Cecily]

Yeesh, I can't even imagine having this kind of mindset. Whatever works for you though.
It's not my mindset. That's just the most blunt description of how things are. Thing is if you're unhappy with the guild you're in, most people stick around long enough to cash out their dkp and leave. I never did that in any guild fwiw. I backstabbed plenty though.

[Cecily]

Didn’t read the whole thread. But I have had people unequip their visible gear and ask for a CR port. So now I always inspect before I port people.

These people get a free port to toxx. CR ports are charity. Grief counts as payment.

[Jimjam]

These people get a free port to toxx. CR ports are charity. Grief counts as payment.

If they ask for CR port and clearly aren't already on a cr then they are clearly asking for a port that begins a cr.

Don't kinkshame them, just port them to hate, sit for a few seconds, drop group and sky neck out. Its what they asked for.

[Culprit]

Cecily still active in rnf all these years? :o

[Acidreams]

tipping culture is the worst, if you expect payment for a service then charge a fee. Fuck this porting for tips bullshit.

Kinda agree, tipping isnt optional its implied. Might as well just charge a flat rate based on char level or so.

[ReadOnly]

When I see you /oocing an actual price per port instead of begging for tips, you'll earn the right to start complaining.