Pet damage % vs EXP gain %

[kallell]

While I know on live you need to do 51% damage to get full exp, is that still going to be the case on green when it launches?

[DMN]

You don't need to do 51%, you need to do >50%. You will on green as well.

[deadlycupcakez]

Wasnt this patched into Blue significantly after launch? I am unclear on if it was classically un-shared xp (100% xp even if pet did 100% damage) but that is how it was early on in blue, until the nerf.

[btravis1990]

in for clarification if this is a patched fix later in the classic timeline as well.

[soronil]

Wasnt this patched into Blue significantly after launch? I am unclear on if it was classically un-shared xp (100% xp even if pet did 100% damage) but that is how it was early on in blue, until the nerf.

It was changed to be classic, not to correspond to a change on live.

[kallell]

Wasnt this patched into Blue significantly after launch? I am unclear on if it was classically un-shared xp (100% xp even if pet did 100% damage) but that is how it was early on in blue, until the nerf.

This was my impression as well.

[zaneosak]

I do hope they will have a list of changes but I am sure they won't. There was definitely a time that pet's did not steal XP on live. But just because that is the case does not mean P99 wants to put it in for a short period of time.

[BlackBellamy]

Yeah I've been looking for this as well. I played a Necro and when I started people were complaining about pets stealing exp like it wasn't a thing that happened before, so I must have arrived soon after that. I know in 2002 they dropped the whole thing and as long as you did 1 damage you got full exp.

[Sillyturtle]

To be clear, this only matters if solo right? If you’re grouped it doesn’t matter how much damage the pet does?

Also when solo say you don’t do more than fifty percent damage, does that mean you get no exp, or just reduced exp?

[Baler]

The mob has 10 hp, your pet hits it for 9 damage and you dismiss the pet.
You do the last 1 point of damage. you get full exp

or another example with no dismiss

the mob has 10 hp your pet does 4 damage and you do 6 damage
you get full exp

[Sillyturtle]

Ok cool

What happens if the mob has ten hp and the pet does seven and I do three?

Or what if the pet does ALL the damage?

[Meiva]

The mob has 10 hp, your pet hits it for 9 damage and you dismiss the pet.
You do the last 1 point of damage. you get full exp

or another example with no dismiss

the mob has 10 hp your pet does 4 damage and you do 6 damage
you get full exp

or a third example

Group up with another mage and sit back and relax.

[Sillyturtle]

Ok cool

What happens if the mob has ten hp and the pet does seven and I do three?

Or what if the pet does ALL the damage?

Anyone able to tell me?

[Bardp1999]

Anyone able to tell me?

Then your pet eats 50% of your XP. Grouping completely dismisses pet xp penalties and pet can do 100% damage and leeches 0 xp

[Nagoya]

And for completion's sake:

Mob had 10hp,
Hits the pet and takes 5 DS damage,
Pet hits for 2 dmg,
You do 3 dmg.

You get full xp.
Aka you need to do 50%+1 of the non-neutral damage done,
Not 50%+1 of the mob's total HP.

[Aaramis]

Then your pet eats 50% of your XP. Grouping completely dismisses pet xp penalties and pet can do 100% damage and leeches 0 xp

Yep, and I'd also like to add that even at 50% xp, your solo kill speed is at least 2x any other class out of the gate (it slows down later though), so you won't really care about any lost xp. You get to sit and med while fluffy cleans house and you get free xp for medding.

But as others have mentioned, grouping eliminates this penalty so it's a non-issue for the most part.

[DMN]

Yep, and I'd also like to add that even at 50% xp, your solo kill speed is at least 2x any other class out of the gate (it slows down later though), so you won't really care about any lost xp. You get to sit and med while fluffy cleans house and you get free xp for medding.

But as others have mentioned, grouping eliminates this penalty so it's a non-issue for the most part.

Ya, you are gonna totally own stuff with your summoned dagger. :D

[kallell]

The mob has 10 hp, your pet hits it for 9 damage and you dismiss the pet.
You do the last 1 point of damage. you get full exp

or another example with no dismiss

the mob has 10 hp your pet does 4 damage and you do 6 damage
you get full exp

This is correct for Blue, but i'm unsure if Green will be the same at launch. As others mentioned, I think at some point after launch this was changed to the above logic.

[BlackBellamy]

I like the current live system - if you do any damage at all you get all the exp.

[bum3]

Question is how many necro/mages going to try afk leveling? I did it prekunark. Did you?

[Dolalin]

The myth from late beta until late vanilla was that if the pet got the kill shot it stole some xp, even in a group.

Took a dev post to clarify that was wrong.

I think it had always worked the way it works now on p99?

[loramin]

Question is how many necro/mages going to try afk leveling? I did it prekunark. Did you?

3. You may not kill NPC's while you are not at your PC.

It is against the rules to "afk camp" any NPC or groups of NPC's by placing a pet nearby and letting it kill while you are away from your computer. Any other form of "afk camping", such as faction killing, is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action.

In addition to this rule, and further explained in section 5, you may not Forage items using any automated program (hardware or software).

[bum3]

I guess it was too common to let it happen. haha

[bum3]

Nothing about using a weight to hold a button down.

[deadlycupcakez]

The myth from late beta until late vanilla was that if the pet got the kill shot it stole some xp, even in a group.

Took a dev post to clarify that was wrong.

I think it had always worked the way it works now on p99?

No it was definitely full xp regardless of % damage from pet on Blue early on.