View Full Version : Can Yall undo rooted dragons now that stuff has 10million channeling skill?
Kinaki
09-30-2019, 09:29 PM
Such a wasted opportunity...
I mean, keep non-gaters rooted if you want, but why nullify the brand new interrupt mechanics and anchor these poor children of Veeshan?
Also undo memblur after X distance please.
Kinaki
09-30-2019, 09:30 PM
Classic is class afterall.
imsorryGMs
09-30-2019, 09:34 PM
Server becomes less and less classic with each patch
Cecily
09-30-2019, 09:38 PM
Cease this endless conflict and seek salvation at the temple of Rodcet Nife, you fucking savages. It's almost 2020 and you're playing Everquest.
indiscriminate_hater
09-30-2019, 09:49 PM
I like Ike
Wonkie
09-30-2019, 10:19 PM
I like Ike
https://i.imgur.com/47VxUwW.jpg
Cecil
10-01-2019, 01:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/47VxUwW.jpg
I like Ike & Dick, too.
Well not Ike. Leave out the Ike part.
Dolalin
10-01-2019, 02:33 AM
Pushing won't interrupt anymore, so no point unrooting. Get those shields out and start bashing and get your enchanters mana sieving.
Jimjam
10-01-2019, 06:00 AM
My monk has been interrupting plenty if goblin casters recently. Unsure if this is relevant. I don't have a stun proc. using epic fists or wqs and flying kick (without disc). Level 52.
Dolalin
10-01-2019, 06:36 AM
Flying kick might interrupt, not sure.
Daldaen
10-01-2019, 08:24 AM
Protip- Mana Sieve is unresistable and can be cast from out of belly cast range, it’s possible to avoid some AEs or more easily Dodge them on an enchanter jousting behind corners.
Also for mobs you may DPS quickly like Kunark 32k dragons that you fear will gate, you can grab a Phinigel Wand of Mana Tapping. 7 instant charges of Mana Sieve should wipe out any NPC mana bar entirely, as most NPCs have mana bars around 3000-4000 if they’re in the 60s.
GreldorEQ
10-01-2019, 08:28 AM
Protip- Mana Sieve is unresistable and can be cast from out of belly cast range, it’s possible to avoid some AEs or more easily Dodge them on an enchanter jousting behind corners.
Also for mobs you may DPS quickly like Kunark 32k dragons that you fear will gate, you can grab a Phinigel Wand of Mana Tapping. 7 instant charges of Mana Sieve should wipe out any NPC mana bar entirely, as most NPCs have mana bars around 3000-4000 if they’re in the 60s.
Counter-zerg strat! Everyone move your chanters back out of Chardok kthx.
Kinaki
10-01-2019, 08:37 AM
Protip- Mana Sieve is unresistable and can be cast from out of belly cast range, it’s possible to avoid some AEs or more easily Dodge them on an enchanter jousting behind corners.
You were saying?
Kinaki
10-01-2019, 08:37 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=335070
Dolalin
10-01-2019, 08:58 AM
All this is contingent on the implementation not being bugged, that should go without saying.
kaizersoze
10-01-2019, 09:03 AM
Paladins and SKs are great again. Bash 2020.
azeth
10-01-2019, 09:16 AM
As if we didn't already know Barb is the best race choice for rogues. Slam!
DromalPhrenia
10-01-2019, 09:29 AM
4 enchanters and a bard constantly mana sieving lepethida didn't stop her from CHing 5 times. And then theft of thought tells you that she has no mana to steal.
Daldaen
10-01-2019, 09:43 AM
Sounds like a bug with either mana pool, mana Regen or NPC casting mechanics.
Most NPCs should have mana pools under a few thousand, and should Regen at a fairly slow rate.
I tested Lady Vox on Live recently and she had about 3000~ mana and Regenerated about 10 per tick. It also turned out that in her casting priority code after she burned her mana bar on about 10 Retribution casts (this was without me damaging her), she would constantly cast Nullify magic as she ticked up to having enough mana to cast it. It makes sense that in a classic raid of 40+ players you’d see Vox dropped under 50% before she gets time to cast enough Nukes to drain a mana bar, and she would resort to a CH or two. But you shouldn’t be seeing 5 CHs from a single NPC.
It’s very likely that the casting priority logic for NPCs with the cleric spell set is wrong. They should be burning through most of their mana on non-CH things prior to reaching 50% unless you have a ridiculous Zerg of DPS. You should only be seeing them have enough mana to land 1 or 2 CHs in a balanced non-Zerg raid before they exhaust their mana and resort to casting lower mana spells as their Regen ticks up.
Dolalin
10-01-2019, 10:04 AM
Based on that bug thread, I think the issue is that this is a warrior mob without a mana pool who is hard coded to still checking somehow.
Dolalin
10-01-2019, 10:05 AM
Still CH* somehow
Mblake81
10-01-2019, 10:16 AM
Unroot on blue but root on Green to avoid the pixel train from ever starting.
kaizersoze
10-01-2019, 10:31 AM
what if this is the new anti zerg defense mechanism? Having 100+ people there to never let the mob cast a nuke instead of saving mana for CHs is a sneaky way to say fuck your zerg.
GinnasP99
10-01-2019, 11:35 AM
The dain shall be slain
shuklak
10-01-2019, 12:25 PM
Root and shoot baby!
Solist
10-01-2019, 01:19 PM
Should root Dain too.
It’s an ugly training meta. Clear all the guards.
Chamberlains gowns and Seneschal Swords for all!
Dman2701
10-01-2019, 01:47 PM
Each patch the Dev's have basically been forcing guilds to get bigger and bigger.
It's going to be even harder for smaller guilds to do targets like Gore, Vox, any VP dragons, Gozzrem, Jor, Velks.
Trash mobs in tov are going to be even harder to clear and chances of guilds training each other due to gating trash mobs just went up substantially.
enjchanter
10-01-2019, 02:28 PM
The fun of rooted dragons grows wildly out of control
Katran
10-01-2019, 02:29 PM
Rooted dragons led to more flurry loot and kael quest armor pieces. Also having to clear through zone is a bit more fun than simply pulling a dragon to zone in.
enjchanter
10-01-2019, 02:50 PM
The fun of rooted dragons grows wildly out of control
bradsamma
10-01-2019, 03:13 PM
Rooted dragons led to more flurry loot and kael quest armor pieces. Also having to clear through zone is a bit more fun than simply pulling a dragon to zone in.
Yeah but now there is just a giant race to see who can off tank the most guards now during an engage.
How is this "classic" ?
Teppler
10-01-2019, 03:30 PM
This patch is ruining my life.
Bboboo
10-01-2019, 03:50 PM
biggus yikkus
baakss
10-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Yeah but now there is just a giant race to see who can off tank the most guards now during an engage.
How is this "classic" ?
Way more classic than pulling dragons to the zone line.
bigjeff100
10-01-2019, 04:11 PM
Man I get you 3 all confused.. Danth/ Dolalin/ Daldaen......
Wonkie
10-01-2019, 04:42 PM
Yeah but now there is just a giant race to see who can off tank the most guards now during an engage.
How is this "classic" ?
Trains are classic.
Mblake81
10-01-2019, 04:49 PM
This message is hidden because bigjeff100 is on your ignore list
This message is hidden because Wonkie is on your ignore list.
:o
bigjeff100
10-01-2019, 04:52 PM
Haha, that has to be the first ignore list i ever made it on? Sup Wonkie, how goes Mblake81's ignore list? Been here a while?
azeth
10-01-2019, 05:05 PM
Rooted dragons led to more flurry loot and kael quest armor pieces. Also having to clear through zone is a bit more fun than simply pulling a dragon to zone in.
Yeah but God forbid it makes people play EverQuest
Bbeta
10-01-2019, 05:07 PM
im pretty confused, is the staff pro zerg or anti zerg? these patches keep flip floppin my opinion of staff opinions.
feel free to add your opinion
Wonkie
10-01-2019, 05:21 PM
Haha, that has to be the first ignore list i ever made it on? Sup Wonkie, how goes Mblake81's ignore list? Been here a while?
wtf blake? my feelings are hurt rn
Bboboo
10-01-2019, 06:35 PM
im pretty confused, is the staff pro zerg or anti zerg? these patches keep flip floppin my opinion of staff opinions.
feel free to add your opinion
I'm Pro Toss
reznor_
10-01-2019, 06:53 PM
The fun of rooted dragons grows wildly out of control
It was fun for a while. I think now, even the blowhards who "loved it" don't love it at much. I don't think it matters what guild you're in, static dragons suck (unbiased-ly, it would suck less if you were killing most of them, I can admit that). They should be allowed to at least, have some kind of a short leash range though, as I've said from the get-go.
reznor_
10-01-2019, 06:54 PM
I don't like how rooted dragons have caused previously viable, competitive guilds and alliances to decay and/or collapse. I think that's shitty.
Cecil
10-01-2019, 07:29 PM
Rooted dragons were a counter to blue server players disgusting behavior and you can enjoy them forever
hope this helps
That didn’t help at all and it made no sense
pogs4ever
10-02-2019, 01:03 AM
it's ok! we bringing coth races back!
baakss
10-02-2019, 01:48 AM
I don't like how rooted dragons have caused previously viable, competitive guilds and alliances to decay and/or collapse. I think that's shitty.
Ten guilds competing in ToV isn't what classic was like.
Anyway, most of the people who wanted to raid ToV competitively are still doing so, just with Riot / AM / AG.
Solist
10-02-2019, 02:01 AM
I don't like how rooted dragons have caused previously viable, competitive guilds and alliances to decay and/or collapse. I think that's shitty.
I don't like how random rule changes from constant AM/AW crying got FTE lockouts removed which caused previously viable, competitive guilds and alliances to decay and/or collapse. I think its shitty.
Rip rustle.
Dugface
10-02-2019, 02:29 AM
Don't worry everyone. People are cheating on footraces, so coth races are back. You can't cheat on those.
Dugface
10-02-2019, 03:12 AM
I don't like how rooted dragons have caused my guilds to decay and/or collapse. I think that's shitty.
I fixed your statement for you.
branamil
10-02-2019, 03:25 AM
p99, fanatically classic except for Pathing, AoEs, leashing, rooting, resists, spawn rates, and spawn variance, but hey at least you can't use un-classic hotkeys anymore
Jimjam
10-02-2019, 05:06 AM
Yea, why doesn't Rogean just use the classic Pathing.exe?
Kye1709
10-02-2019, 07:56 AM
p99, fanatically classic except for Pathing, AoEs, leashing, rooting, resists, spawn rates, and spawn variance, but hey at least you can't use un-classic hotkeys anymore
elephant in the room.
Freakish
10-02-2019, 08:29 AM
Rip rustle.
reznor_
10-02-2019, 12:07 PM
I fixed your statement for you.
Ah the ol’ incel edit.
reznor_
10-02-2019, 12:11 PM
I don't like how random rule changes from constant AM/AW crying got FTE lockouts removed which caused previously viable, competitive guilds and alliances to decay and/or collapse. I think its shitty.
Rip rustle.
Totally valid points. I only started playing about 2 years ago, and raiding with AM for about 6 months now, so I don’t really know my history.
Mblake81
10-02-2019, 12:31 PM
Totally valid points. I only started playing about 2 years ago, and raiding with AM for about 6 months now, so I don’t really know my history.
:o
https://i.imgur.com/GSBFqp2.jpg
reznor_
10-02-2019, 12:32 PM
I’d have a drink with Mblake81
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