Any way to make options character-specific, not account-wide?

[Kinaki]

I'm really trying to work around the clunky UI changes implemented today and part of that is customizing hotkeys moreso for each character. But hotkeys are account-wide... is there a way to disable this and make them character-specific?

[ReadOnly]

You can use WinEQ2 to create different profiles which will allow for different keybinds per character

[gkmarino]

Does that feature require the subscription fee?

[Kinaki]

I like how this was moved from technical discussion to Rants & Flames for, presumably, the use of the word clunky and calling a spade a spade.

[Kinaki]

I'll try, ReadOnly.

[monkeydoc]

I'm not sure what you mean about hotkeys being account-wide. Like the keybinds? Because as far as I'm aware, that's the only part of it that is account-wide.

[loramin]

I like how this was moved from technical discussion to Rants & Flames for, presumably, the use of the word clunky and calling a spade a spade.

Yeah, seems like a moderator failure ... but with all of the recent patch cry babies I imagine the mods are having to deal with a lot, so I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

Hopefully they'll move it back soon.

[loramin]

By the way, there's a very kludgy solution to your problem: just copy your EQ directory for each separate character profile, and make shortcuts to the files in each one for each of your characters.

It will require wasting several gigs of space per character, and again it's kludgy, but you'll wind up with icons on your desktop for each character that take you to EQ instances with the preferences you want for that character.

[Droxx]

By the way, there's a very kludgy solution to your problem: just copy your EQ directory for each separate character profile, and make shortcuts to the files in each one for each of your characters.

It will require wasting several gigs of space per character, and again it's kludgy, but you'll wind up with icons on your desktop for each character that take you to EQ instances with the preferences you want for that character.

You can do this without wasting any space via the use of symbolic links in Windows. Effectively all the different EQ directories would "point" to the common files and reference their own EQClient.ini files.

[loramin]

You can do this without wasting any space via the use of symbolic links in Windows. Effectively all the different EQ directories would "point" to the common files and reference their own EQClient.ini files.

Maybe symbolic links on Windows work differently, but on Linux they're basically suped-up shortcuts, which means they won't work here.

If you make a three symlinks to the same EQ folder, that folder will still have just one eqclient.ini. If you make three symlinks to that file, same issue.

What you want is:


Folder A with all your actual EQ files
Folder B with only a single real file (eqclient.ini) and symlinks for every other file pointing to the actual versions in A
Folder C, again with only a single real file (eqclient.ini) and symlinks for every other file pointing to the actual versions in A


... but that would require making like a bajillion symlinks: there are a lot of files in the EverQuest directory and sub-directories.

[loramin]

P.S. I guess it would be somewhat feasible to do it with just the folders, but still copy all the raw files. At least you'd use up some less disk space with that approach, and there's a small enough number of folders you wouldn't go insane making symlinks.

Really if you want to go that route though I'd dig up that utility some guy wrote that removes all the unnecessary (for P99) files. I'd guess doing that would save more disk space (and be faster) than making the folder symlinks, but I could be wrong (and of course you could always do both).

[Droxx]

In Windows (I don't know for linux) you can symbolic link a whole folder to avoid linking every file. You'd remove eqclient.ini from an EverQuest folder and point the whole new folder to the old folder. Then replace eqclient.ini in the new folder.

[loramin]

Hopefully someone who knows Windows symlinks well can chime in, but that just doesn't sound right.

If you create symlink foo that goes to folder bar, it doesn't create magic copies of every file in bar; it just makes a link to bar. When you "cd foo" (or go into the foo folder in Windows), you actually go into the contents of "bar", even though it still says "foo" in the command line or in your windows Explorer.

So with what you described if you made a symlink to your EQ folder, then went into that symlink, you'd be in your real EQ folder. If you changed ore replaced eqclient.ini, you'd do so for everyone who uses that folder, not just for one symlink to it.

But again, maybe Windows has something else called a "symbolic link" which works fundamentally differently?

[Droxx]

Hopefully someone who knows Windows symlinks well can chime in, but that just doesn't sound right.

If you create symlink foo that goes to folder bar, it doesn't create magic copies of every file in bar; it just makes a link to bar. When you "cd foo" (or go into the foo folder in Windows), you actually go into the contents of "bar", even though it still says "foo" in the command line or in your windows Explorer.

So with what you described if you made a symlink to your EQ folder, then went into that symlink, you'd be in your real EQ folder. If you changed ore replaced eqclient.ini, you'd do so for everyone who uses that folder, not just for one symlink to it.

But again, maybe Windows has something else called a "symbolic link" which works fundamentally differently?

No you're absolutely right. I had my ideas wrong and I verified via testing that it won't work the way I intended.

[monkeydoc]

Am I crazy? What account-wide hotbar settings are you guys talking about?

[Ruhtar]

Am I crazy? What account-wide hotbar settings are you guys talking about?

Keybinds

[ReadOnly]

For example, in options, you set "a" to turn auto attack on. "a" will turn on auto attack when you're on ANY of your characters. What if you only want "a" to do that on your rogue? And you want "a" to make you sit down on your Necro? You have to manually change it everytime, or, use WinEQ2 (free) to create different profiles which allow you to launch the game with separate eqclient.ini (the keybind location) files.

[monkeydoc]

Ah ok. So nothing that's changed in the last patch?

[monkeydoc]

Bah, my post poofed:

How about a batch file?

Make a copy of eqclient.ini for each character (or more realistically for the two or maybe three keybind setups). Name them eqclient1.ini, eqclient2.ini.

Make batch that deletes eqclient.ini then copies eqclient#.ini to eqclient.ini, then launches EQ.

[PieOats]

hbu write a batch file for each character, which copieth the appropriate file into your eq directory on launch?

your welcum

[loramin]

Bah, my post poofed:

How about a batch file?

Make a copy of eqclient.ini for each character (or more realistically for the two or maybe three keybind setups). Name them eqclient1.ini, eqclient2.ini.

Make batch that deletes eqclient.ini then copies eqclient#.ini to eqclient.ini, then launches EQ.

Yeah, this is probably the best option (and I think I actually suggested it in another thread ages ago, and then forgot about it until monkeydoc said something ... I really need to revamp the wiki Tech Q&A section ...)

[Kinaki]

You can use WinEQ2 to create different profiles which will allow for different keybinds per character

Thanks, this worked like a charm! I had long since forgotten about winEQ profiles.