Behavioral Issues With SScalez

[Moeli]

Hello,

For the sake of folks at Sebilis:

SScalez/Toofat/godspark is a very salty/scummy/dirty player who perma camps king camp. He trains folks and takes the king pop away. Was petitioned by 5 ppl yesterday and ended up dying and taking a shower in the pond in King from his own train. He also has an enchanter in TSS by the name of mezzenator or something along those lines and TSS officers have been informed.

The neckiest of the neck bierds, this fellow is!!

[Moeli]

Correction shaman name is: slowfat. Lvl 60 with no torp

[Moeli]

This fella also thinks he has duoing king camp figured out. He has the shaman malo it first the shaman zones out. Then sscalez logs on his enc to calm the way down for the shaman to come back to camp. Then logs back on sscalez. They leave the camp and are not present so great opportunity for others to take the camp since he does the same to others. Please note he says he has made 1 million pp from king camp and his shaman still doesnt have torpor, so go figure. He contests camp if PH is up more than 30 seconds.

The following players can attest to his scummy behavior: Shhamazing, Tanga, Mihung, Tortue, and Audwon.

Let this neckbierd finally take his shower folks!

[Worry]

Lol oh yeah, this is a good thread.

[Novemix]

He contests a contested camp and doesn't let bad groups have *hours* to pull the ph.

He's bad, so bad, such much bad, plus he's bad.

And a big meanie.

/sarcasm

[Moeli]

Can confirm Novemixx is his duo partner from an account that does not belong to him.

[Novemix]

Yep. Confirmed, but actually trio, Rodizzle just isn't geared enough for duo.

I also can confirm that Sabah looted a silk robe in HoT on a Lord Bob raid and concocted a fantastic story about how it was accidental. Then strangely went out of town for a week, and claimed he wasn't disciplined.

[Moeli]

Can confirm novemixx delivers pizza

[Novemix]

People need their dinnah!

[Moeli]

Also, I have seen his Slowfat(his torpless shaman) and sscalez(monk) logged in at the same time. I'm a bit of a noob but how does one have two chars logged in at the same time? Are they on separate accounts?

[shuklak]

Also, I have seen his Slowfat(his torpless shaman) and sscalez(monk) logged in at the same time. I'm a bit of a noob but how does one have two chars logged in at the same time? Are they on separate accounts?

Just a macroquest plugin most likely.

[alexdoofaz]

Can confirm. The guys trained my groups twice in the past.

[soulsummenor]

I think we can all agree that If a claim has been made, then the person making the claim should be required to show proof of his or her or other pronouns claim.

[Moeli]

TSS officers plz take action against this scummy neckbeard

[Stryker85]

Please preface this thread with the following information: Moeli aka Sabah (OP) is a known scumbag ninja looting liar; reference here (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333219&highlight=sabah) and also here (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333380)

This guy is as crazy as it gets. He is literally pulling shit out of his ass because of a conflict we got into yesterday @ king camp. My duo partner and I started clearing the 2 roamer frogs and exit room shroom, and as soon as the exit shroom died, they leap-frogged us and pulled the PH.

After a petition went unanswered, we ended up conceding the camp from not wanting to fight with them. He then proceeded to send me bat-shit crazy tells all afternoon, then again hours later that evening, and more nonsensical crazy shit when I logged on this morning.

Today he released that the few people that were willing to trio king with him, were also friends of mine (Novemix/Hurrtz and Johnwilks/Kashii). After I told them what happened the day before and how he's been acting since, they ended up siding with me.

He logged on and saw them grouping with me @ king camp, and flipped the fck out. He went nuclear on everyone involved and started sending us all tons of harassing tells for hours straight, making up shit about each of us trying to turn friends against each other (which didn't work of course).

Now he has realized that he burned all of his bridges with pretty much the entire discord channel and the entire group of friends that farm stuff together, so he has lost his mind and is doing whatever he can to try to get back at us somehow.

Hence where these all threads he's making come in (3 now?), this thread is complete bullshit and everything about it except that I do camp king a lot when I'm online. I've never "trained" another king group that wasn't actively trying to steal my camp, and it's not training when its your camp, its called pulling.

He couldn't even get my character's names right! Literally naming some people that aren't even my toons, rofl. Keep trying guy, you're only showing your true colors here.

TLDR: Sabah is a lying juvenile sociopath that is just mad that he burned all his bridges and no one wants to have anything to do with him anymore.

[Moeli]

Can confirm he is missing details about us being at camp first, training us during ph fight, and taking king pop away for 10 minutes later in the day and taking a shower from his own train in the pond. Can confirm he was petitioned by 5 other ppl yesterday in game. Can confirm he needs a shower.

[Stryker85]

Can confirm he is missing details about us being at camp first, training us during ph fight, and taking king pop away for 10 minutes later in the day and taking a shower from his own train in the pond. Can confirm he was petitioned by 5 other ppl yesterday in game. Can confirm he needs a shower.

You do realize when you start to lie about everything, you start to lose credibility. No, you were not at the camp first. Your trio was still waiting on your 3rd man to arrive when we were already IN the camp killing the frogs.

We had the camp from the moment we started clearing the frogs, GM's have made that exact ruling at king camp before in the past. Y'all were mad that you lost the race and decided to leap frog us to pull the PH. I pulled a Reaver SOLO into OUR camp that yall were in the process of trying to steal. If I wanted to train you I could have pulled a giant monster train to kill you all, but I didn't. We conceded the camp at that point because my partner didn't want argue about it anymore.

But go on, go ahead and make up more bullshit, it's not helping your credibility.

[Moeli]

Can confirm his shaman slowfat does not have torp.

[Syche]

Come on guys, you're doing a great job of getting this party started. We need some logs and screenshots!

[Moeli]

This guy is scum, needs a shower

[Vallaen]

PURGE THE SWAMP!

[Sonderbeast]

#DRAININNOTHULE

[Canelek]

So, basically a slap fight at this point. Good work lads.

[Moeli]

Please note AG member Thenthibo: these guys intentionally moved your cleric corpse to get it killed at juggs then logged on and called u domb moron. Can confirm they have anger issues as well.

[Stryker85]

Please note AG member Thenthibo: these guys intentionally moved your cleric corpse to get it killed at juggs then logged on and called u domb moron. Can confirm they have anger issues as well.

I don't even know a Thenthibo nor have I ever met or spoken a word to this person. Why don't you ask him?.... I'm sure he'll tell you he doesn't know me from Adam either. How about you not lump me in with everyone else you have a problem with, which at this point seems like half of the server.

How many threads are you gonna make before you realize you're only making yourself look like a crazy ex gf, as someone else already mentioned in 1 of your other nonsensical shit-posts. Get a life man.

[Moeli]

Can confirm sscalez took a shower yesterday.

[Moeli]

One of his mules name is sprawlz, do not buy from him.

[aaezil]

Its funny that the perp showed up in the thread to defend himself

Pitiful on all accounts but entertaining

[Stryker85]

One of his mules name is sprawlz, do not buy from him.
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ROFL dude you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper. Dunno who the fck Sprawlz is, but its definitely not me. My mule is named Kungfoopimp, but if you bothered to spend 30 seconds to do a forum search, you could have figured that out.

Keep spreading more completely false misinformation, you're making yourself look like a real genius here guy.

Its actually pretty hilarious how butt-hurt you are over this whole fiasco. The realization that all your bridges are burnt must be hitting you pretty hard... the only people that are going to group with you are people who don't know what a scumbag you are yet.

[Moeli]

He uses sprawlz to do his reselling, is only one of his alts. This guy is so cheap wont get his shaman a torp. Also likes to take showers at seb camp. true seb scum, his enc must be investigated by TSS.

[Sprawlz]

Not sure what this is about but I'm nobody's mule, thank you very much.

[Stryker85]

He uses sprawlz to do his reselling, is only one of his alts. This guy is so cheap wont get his shaman a torp. Also likes to take showers at seb camp. true seb scum, his enc must be investigated by TSS.

I don't even know why I feel the need to indulge your crazy ass, or what my Shaman having Torpor or not has anything to do with this at all, but I simply can't resist debunking more of your bullshit. So here you go, logged on my Shaman just for you buddy: https://ibb.co/KqWjG9G

Not sure what this is about but I'm nobody's mule, thank you very much.

LOL! Gee, what do ya know, Sprawlz is an entirely different person, what are the odds you'd be full of shit, yet again??

Literally everything out of this guy's mouth is either down right false, or a bold faced lie. Moeli/Sabah, please do keep digging your server reputation's grave even deeper; this has become fascinating at this point.

[bennysmalls1]

Why all the post from a known ninja looter...
If Sscalez did something wrong, /petition and talk to a gm about it..
Please stop trying to forum bash a good player, because you weren’t invited to a group.

[Moeli]

LOL, I'm glad the forum pressure finally made you buy torp! Cuz as of yesterday you didn't have it and were begging rodizzle whom doesnt belong to them to log on... You're so scummy sscalez, rmbr when u said u are the only mnk on the server who knows how to pull king camp? I have seen u die 3 times just on a ph pull in one camp. True seb scum u are.

[soulsummenor]

We should really stop feeding you because you are nothing more than an angry troll now, reduced to forum questing because your rep is ruined on server. Either cough up some kind of evidence of wrong doing on any of us or crawl back into your hole.

[Moeli]

johnwilks is a true seb scum being abused by novemixx. Sad to see interpersonal dynamics of these seb scum. sscalez is the neckiest of the neckbeards, needs shower.

[soulsummenor]

Thank you, Sabah, for proving my point. I think we are done here.

[Worry]

<True Seb Scum> is now recruiting!

Only ninja looters, those with eccentric camp knowledge, resellers and neckiest of the neckbeards allowed!

[Rang]

<True Seb Scum> is now recruiting!

Only ninja looters, those with eccentric camp knowledge, resellers and neckiest of the neckbeards allowed!

aspergers / autism also required! sign me up! i'll be raging in seb ooc in no time!

[Ghostly]

What in the actual hell is going on here?

[soulsummenor]

What in the actual hell is going on here?


Moeli = Sabah, Disgruntled EQ player makes up lies to defame friends who he is mad at for grouping with someone he doesn't like.

[Novemix]

What in the actual hell is going on here?

Someone trying desperately to become as big a meme as "grats me", but failing pretty miserably.

[Taenayr]

That shaman is terrible.

[Raev]

I wasn't going to bother posting this, but as a long time denizen of RNF I feel a civic duty to help this thread along.

[Fri Sep 06 17:53:03 2019] You say out of character, 'CC please! Also enchanter lfg for a bit!'
[Fri Sep 06 17:55:41 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'king'
[Fri Sep 06 17:55:55 2019] You say out of character, 'sabah, I was just down there and you are definitely not at that camp pal'
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:08 2019] You say out of character, 'there is a special place in EQ hell for those who call false camp checks!'
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:18 2019] Juhmbo says out of character, 'bro'
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:25 2019] Juhmbo says out of character, 'we are i am here with a fg =) '
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:26 2019] Novemix says out of character, 'there's a group at tube and he's in that group'
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:26 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'lol look at the rest of my grp dude'
[Fri Sep 06 17:56:55 2019] Chol says out of character, 'loraen u salty that u not getting a tunic huh'
[Fri Sep 06 17:57:16 2019] Novemix says out of character, 'tube = king'
[Fri Sep 06 17:57:23 2019] Juhmbo says out of character, 'test tube?'
[Fri Sep 06 17:58:27 2019] Novemix says out of character, 'sabah doesn't call false camps, but he does ninja shit. he has his standards'
[Fri Sep 06 17:58:37 2019] Juhmbo says out of character, 'omfg'
[Fri Sep 06 17:58:38 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'oh my god'
[Fri Sep 06 17:58:45 2019] Novemix says out of character, 'rofl, <3'
[Fri Sep 06 17:58:56 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'thats it i gotta go play wow now'
[Fri Sep 06 17:59:01 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'or roll a pally'
[Fri Sep 06 18:00:04 2019] Sabah says out of character, 'king'

Sadly I did not screenshot Sabah dragging Novemix's corpse, but:

[Fri Sep 06 18:06:44 2019] You say out of character, 'wait, this WHOLE TIME you were busy claimign the camp you were in fact all CRing?'
[Fri Sep 06 18:06:48 2019] You say out of character, 'my god'

P.S. Chol, it's 2019. My salt level over the spore king camp could not get any more negative.

[Novemix]

That was pre sabah meltdown. I wasn't even in their group, just helping them get established. I think they had 4 people, one had died, but the rest were in the king/exit hallway with mobs down, so yeah.

[Moeli]

Hahha, nice logs! Novemixx coming out like the true scum he is! He said he would help us only if he could roll on a tunic and ended up dying cause of his low charisma on lulls.. the dude is absolute scum look at how he defends the king camp in ooc, like it's his backyard. True seb scum he is. Rodizzle account is not his, he took it over maliciously.

[Novemix]

Yeah, look at how I defended you, what a PoS I am.

[Moeli]

You only defended cuz u had a stake in it. This guy will also say he will split on spells but not pay up. Avoid him at all costs, true seb scum he is, maybe worse than sscalez.

[Moeli]

Because the account doesn't belong to them and they never played a shaman and don't know the class. they use it as a bot to do eccentric camp juggs(their own words) and king. Although I still don't understand how they manage to play hurrtz, kashii, Rodizzle (3 separate accounts) at the same time.. True seb scum they are.

[Novemix]

Yeah, I play multiple classes badly.

I can only hope one day I'll have any kind of skill approaching yours on your rogue.

If it's the last thing I do, I will master those 4 buttons!

[Dirkus]

Seb sounds fun again.

[Moeli]

Not only are u bad but u play a char not belonging to u. True seb scum u are novemixx..

[bigjeff100]

Holy shit, you all sound like assholes... Play the game like normal healthy adults.

[beversami]

Moeli is P99's Antonio Brown.

[Worry]

Moeli is P99's Antonio Brown. Lmao.

[Cecily]

Holy shit, you all sound like assholes... Play the game like normal healthy adults.

[azeth]

Moeli is P99's Antonio Brown.

Patriots 2019 Superbowl champions

[saftbudet]

Whats wrong with p99 community. Trolls and selfish people everywhere. Starting to give up hope here. And I am a relatively new player.

[KansasComrade]

Are you the BoB scum then? Just trying to get my spreadsheet clear and with all the /'s it's hard to follow.

[jacobar]

Hello,

For the sake of folks at Sebilis:

SScalez/Toofat/godspark is a very salty/scummy/dirty player who perma camps king camp. He trains folks and takes the king pop away. Was petitioned by 5 ppl yesterday and ended up dying and taking a shower in the pond in King from his own train. He also has an enchanter in TSS by the name of mezzenator or something along those lines and TSS officers have been informed.

The neckiest of the neck bierds, this fellow is!!

Two or three threads like this by the same guy Moeli, no screen caps or logs or proofs at all just naming and shaming sort of starting to wonder who the real scum bag is

[Moeli]

sscalez is true seb scum believe it. He trains most folks at king camp, needs a shower.

[bodenn]

WTF did I just read?

[Moeli]

Do not buy from kungfoopimp, this guy is true seb scum belomging to scaly poo poo head

[Demonstorm]

sscalez is true seb scum believe it. He trains most folks at king camp, needs a shower.

Agreed he owes me 20k plat also and will not pay for helping him.

Do not trust this guy

[Demonstorm]

sscalez is true seb scum believe it. He trains most folks at king camp, needs a shower.

He still owes me plat too so not sure what to think, other than be careful dealing with him.

[Moeli]

Agreed he owes me 20k plat also and will not pay for helping him.

Do not trust this guy
Wow another victim of this scum? The depth of this scummery is coming out.. Sscalez is true seb scum training folks and not paying them splits. Needs shower asap

[Stryker85]

Agreed he owes me 20k plat also and will not pay for helping him.

Do not trust this guy

Deathwife AKA Demonstorm: I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to you, but I even told you before hand that the GM’s may not approve of me paying you 20k plat to help me get GINA working on Mac. And guess what? Turns out they’re not ok with that! Like I told you on discoed already.

All you did is send me a link to download an ISO of a windows trial version, and you expect me to risk getting both of our accounts banned over that? It has nothing to do with the plat.

After I learned it may be against the RMT rules to exchange plat for “services”, I told you I would ask the GM’s for approval... and I did so in the same thread that I made the offer in. GM responded and made his ruling that I can’t pay plat for that sort of thing. So I then offered to send you $5 RL cash on an app like Fiver or something, and you refused... demanding that we work out some kind of deal for a half price discounted fungi tunic or other items.

I’m not going to try to circumvent a GM’s ruling and try to out smart or get around their rules and risk getting us both banned in the process, all because you want 20k for sending me a PUBLIC link to a windows trial version.

[Cecil]

Deathwife AKA Demonstorm: I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to you, but I even told you before hand that the GM’s may not approve of me paying you 20k plat to help me get GINA working on Mac. And guess what? Turns out they’re not ok with that! Like I told you on discoed already.

All you did is send me a link to download an ISO of a windows trial version, and you expect me to risk getting both of our accounts banned over that? It has nothing to do with the plat.

After I learned it may be against the RMT rules to exchange plat for “services”, I told you I would ask the GM’s for approval... and I did so in the same thread that I made the offer in. GM responded and made his ruling that I can’t pay plat for that sort of thing. So I then offered to send you $5 RL cash on an app like Fiver or something, and you refused... demanding that we work out some kind of deal for a half price discounted fungi tunic or other items.

I’m not going to try to circumvent a GM’s ruling and try to out smart or get around their rules and risk getting us both banned in the process, all because you want 20k for sending me a PUBLIC link to a windows trial version.

Define "discoed"

[Stryker85]

Discord... R is next to E. Posting more than a few words from an Iphone kinda sucks.

[Cecil]

Discord... R is next to E. Posting more than a few words from an Iphone kinda sucks.

Got it

[paegan3]

losers

[kaizersoze]

Its funny how sscales was a gigantic fucking crybaby about us moving down to king and murdering the see invis on our way down when they weren't even logged in, and then cried in OOC how we were stealing the camp from them after we forced their hand and they wiped. Suck a dick, nerd.

[Demonstorm]

Agreed he owes me 20k plat also and will not pay for helping him.

Do not trust this guy

Deathwife AKA Demonstorm: I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to you, but I even told you before hand that the GM’s may not approve of me paying you 20k plat to help me get GINA working on Mac. And guess what? Turns out they’re not ok with that! Like I told you on discoed already.

All you did is send me a link to download an ISO of a windows trial version, and you expect me to risk getting both of our accounts banned over that? It has nothing to do with the plat.

After I learned it may be against the RMT rules to exchange plat for “services”, I told you I would ask the GM’s for approval... and I did so in the same thread that I made the offer in. GM responded and made his ruling that I can’t pay plat for that sort of thing. So I then offered to send you $5 RL cash on an app like Fiver or something, and you refused... demanding that we work out some kind of deal for a half price discounted fungi tunic or other items.

I’m not going to try to circumvent a GM’s ruling and try to out smart or get around their rules and risk getting us both banned in the process, all because you want 20k for sending me a PUBLIC link to a windows trial version.


I spent 3 hours helping you, not 1 second. So you are a liar and a thief. And from this thread a lot more than that. Good luck with your server reputation.

[Demonstorm]

Agreed he owes me 20k plat also and will not pay for helping him.

Do not trust this guy

Deathwife AKA Demonstorm: I don’t know how many times I have to explain this to you, but I even told you before hand that the GM’s may not approve of me paying you 20k plat to help me get GINA working on Mac. And guess what? Turns out they’re not ok with that! Like I told you on discoed already.

All you did is send me a link to download an ISO of a windows trial version, and you expect me to risk getting both of our accounts banned over that? It has nothing to do with the plat.

After I learned it may be against the RMT rules to exchange plat for “services”, I told you I would ask the GM’s for approval... and I did so in the same thread that I made the offer in. GM responded and made his ruling that I can’t pay plat for that sort of thing. So I then offered to send you $5 RL cash on an app like Fiver or something, and you refused... demanding that we work out some kind of deal for a half price discounted fungi tunic or other items.

I’m not going to try to circumvent a GM’s ruling and try to out smart or get around their rules and risk getting us both banned in the process, all because you want 20k for sending me a PUBLIC link to a windows trial version.


I also asked then if you cant pay 20k, you would do a bard power level or monk powerlevel and you said yes, but then never did it for the same 3 hours that you owed me. Did i ever get a response, nope.

[Novemix]

Why do you keep double quoting

[bigjeff100]

Seb has to be a top 5 most toxic zone on P99.. I'd say a solid 75% of the population in zone are unhealthy, overly invested players.. At all times..

Lesson for the week- Continue avoiding Seb, and the clowns that run around within.

[Novemix]

Seb has to be a top 5 most toxic zone on P99.. I'd say a solid 75% of the population in zone are unhealthy, overly invested players.. At all times..

Lesson for the week- Continue avoiding Seb, and the clowns that run around within.

And where are these magical peace and love and harmony zones that you play in?

[Novemix]

Good taste in dogs btw, love pugs.

[bigjeff100]

And where are these magical peace and love and harmony zones that you play in?

Shouldn't you be trying to make new friends at this point? Not lose more?

[bigjeff100]

Shouldn't you be trying to make new friends at this point? Not lose more?

I mean... Anything but Seb, really.....

[Novemix]

But you said top 5, so what's 6 and higher?

[bigjeff100]

But you said top 5, so what's 6 and higher?

Novemix ladies and gentlemen......

[Novemix]

You seem to think I'm being sarcastic or glib, but no, I really want to know.

[Fammaden]

1. High. Keep. - Disable the ZEM in this pile of trash and save every guide and guild officer hours of headaches.

2. Karnor's Castle - Trains. Lots of trains and one direction to take them that all goes through someone else's camp. Add in overcrowding that creates drama over camp disputes, mixed with a steady stream of level 48 to 52 monks who are stepping on each others dicks to steal mobs in the train simulation they call "pulling" all the while sperging over getting a paw spawn for their epic drop or a tstaff warlord.

And yes, there's that tstaff. A 40k+ item in a zone filled with people often fresh into their 50's and starving for cash and upgrades. Seeing one drop can be like throwing a fresh carcass to a pack of emaciated and abused wolves.

3. Chardok 2.0 - Has a little bit of everything, high value cash camps, high value loot camps, high value quest MQ camps, serious farmers mixing with xp groups mixing with guild efforts to get epic parts, the most toxic quest in the game in the damn cords. Mix this in with a densely packed zone prone to big trains and few ways to get safely out or even safely CR plus factioned people running everywhere and its a big stew of drama waiting to happen.

Higher ceiling for serious drama than KC but lower overall peak populations that help to keep it in check. It doesn't flare up that often but when it does it can be one of the most contentious places in the game.

4.Sebilis - You can have a good time forming groups and joining groups here at discos and abc, the NG and disco bug farmers are mostly chill, CE groups are good xp and opportunity but even full pick up groups can draw in some random loot whoring there.

But king/fungi, and poop mountain? Extremely toxic, and creates the kind of assholes we see in this thread.

Overall high potential for loot whoring but you can pick and choose your companions and if you're a regular you know who to avoid to tailor your experience. Generally no trains as camps remain separate and protected from each other and the zone outs tend to be too far away for most to reach alive.

5. The Temple of Veeshan - Regular readers of RnF may feel this should be number one, but the fact is that it is trivially easy to avoid if you choose not to raid or only raid casually. If you want HoT armor without paying plat for it you may be exposed to some drama second hand or some HoT camp disputes, but overall its only bad if you are "competing" with your fellow man for the most feverish of pixels.

Long story short: pretend its vanilla and stop grinding at level 50 and you'll probably be happier.

[kaizersoze]

1. High. Keep. - Disable the ZEM in this pile of trash and save every guide and guild officer hours of headaches.

2. Karnor's Castle - Trains. Lots of trains and one direction to take them that all goes through someone else's camp. Add in overcrowding that creates drama over camp disputes, mixed with a steady stream of level 48 to 52 monks who are stepping on each others dicks to steal mobs in the train simulation they call "pulling" all the while sperging over getting a paw spawn for their epic drop or a tstaff warlord.

And yes, there's that tstaff. A 40k+ item in a zone filled with people often fresh into their 50's and starving for cash and upgrades. Seeing one drop can be like throwing a fresh carcass to a pack of emaciated and abused wolves.

3. Chardok 2.0 - Has a little bit of everything, high value cash camps, high value loot camps, high value quest MQ camps, serious farmers mixing with xp groups mixing with guild efforts to get epic parts, the most toxic quest in the game in the damn cords. Mix this in with a densely packed zone prone to big trains and few ways to get safely out or even safely CR plus factioned people running everywhere and its a big stew of drama waiting to happen.

Higher ceiling for serious drama than KC but lower overall peak populations that help to keep it in check. It doesn't flare up that often but when it does it can be one of the most contentious places in the game.

4.Sebilis - You can have a good time forming groups and joining groups here at discos and abc, the NG and disco bug farmers are mostly chill, CE groups are good xp and opportunity but even full pick up groups can draw in some random loot whoring there.

But king/fungi, and poop mountain? Extremely toxic, and creates the kind of assholes we see in this thread.

Overall high potential for loot whoring but you can pick and choose your companions and if you're a regular you know who to avoid to tailor your experience. Generally no trains as camps remain separate and protected from each other and the zone outs tend to be too far away for most to reach alive.

5. The Temple of Veeshan - Regular readers of RnF may feel this should be number one, but the fact is that it is trivially easy to avoid if you choose not to raid or only raid casually. If you want HoT armor without paying plat for it you may be exposed to some drama second hand or some HoT camp disputes, but overall its only bad if you are "competing" with your fellow man for the most feverish of pixels.

Long story short: pretend its vanilla and stop grinding at level 50 and you'll probably be happier.

Thing about ToV armor is if HoT is so disputed, if the guild goes west instead, its almost never contested. :D Can circumvent that completely.

[Jimjam]

If only more elves would sail west.

[Modwolf]

Lol, these fools with no proof. Move along.

[Twochain]

1. High. Keep. - Disable the ZEM in this pile of trash and save every guide and guild officer hours of headaches.

2. Karnor's Castle -

4.Sebilis - You can have a good time forming groups and joining groups here at discos and abc, the NG and disco bug farmers are mostly chill, CE groups are good xp and opportunity but even full pick up groups can draw in some random loot whoring there.

But king/fungi, and poop mountain? Extremely toxic, and creates the kind of assholes we see in this thread.

Overall high potential for loot whoring but you can pick and choose your companions and if you're a regular you know who to avoid to tailor your experience. Generally no trains as camps remain separate and protected from each other and the zone outs tend to be too far away for most to reach alive.


C/E is the worst exp camp in the zone. Unless you're in a "We're only killing PH + frog pops" King group.

[Novemix]

@Fammaden: was actually looking for 6 and up, but a fine list you made there, in answer to a question i was asking bigjeff100, unless you're him?

Personally, I think the real test of whether someone is an asshole isn't whether they avoid zones like these, it's how they handle the disputes that will inevitably arise.

Do they act (mostly) like an adult and see it in perspective and even concede the camp when they technically don't have to

or

Do they act like a child and see people in black and white terms and go crying on public channels and forums when they don't get their way 100% of the time.

[fan D]

can confirm no idea what they are saying in first few pages

can confirm

can confirm

[soulsummenor]

Can confirm, Moeli ruined his rep by ninja looting a robe in a lord bob HoT raid.

Can Confirm he cannot confirm anything he has stated thus far.

[Fammaden]

Can confirm, Moeli ruined his rep by ninja looting a robe in a lord bob HoT raid.

Can Confirm he cannot confirm anything he has stated thus far.

But true seb scum, is he?

[alexdoofaz]

Haha this dude says true seb scum more than Donald Trump says maga.

[Moeli]

Sscalez's scumness, corruption, deceitfulness, and alll around scummery is being reported by other folks.. This true seb scum is really a pos, avoid him at all costs, he is a thief it appears as well. Noevemixx is his lil puppy side kick

[Sonderbeast]

Sscalez's scumness, corruption, deceitfulness, and alll around scummery is being reported by other folks.. This true seb scum is really a pos, avoid him at all costs, he is a thief it appears as well. Noevemixx is his lil puppy side kick

I thot u were the scumbag for being ninja, how many are there????a

[Moeli]

This guy is true seb scum, trainer, thief, u name it. Needs a shower asap

[soulsummenor]

Confirmed ! Sabah AKA Moeli has no more dirt to throw around.

[Moeli]

More to come, but true seb scum u are grobbell tardy poo poo head, take shower with your masters!

[Novemix]

Now you're tardy. Will there be no end to your evil!?