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Videri
08-18-2019, 09:02 PM
Zlandicar is now rooted. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332137)

I would like to see the ensuing salt, please.

Halox
08-18-2019, 09:03 PM
He’s not rooted

Dirkus
08-18-2019, 09:03 PM
Gotta change the banner up top to read ‘Custom Everquest’

Videri
08-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Oh, he's leashed.

Zlandicar is now leashed. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332137)

On with the show.

imsorryGMs
08-18-2019, 09:27 PM
Gotta change the banner up top to read ‘Custom Everquest’

Might as well release custom luclin content at this point

Mead
08-18-2019, 09:38 PM
zland is easier than some kunark dragons

why did you make a thread about this besides being on drugs?

imsorryGMs
08-18-2019, 09:39 PM
"Riot first zlandi + 23 rat guards"

Littul Jonn
08-18-2019, 09:53 PM
Gotta change the banner up top to read ‘Custom Everquest’

Mblake81
08-18-2019, 09:57 PM
Can no longer be sold to (or recharged by) merchants. No longer unresistable. Does not work in Veeshan's Peak. Also made a more rare reward than in classic, due to imbalance with raid mobs. (Sept 10, 2011 patch)

Ruhtar
08-18-2019, 10:20 PM
"Riot first zlandi + 23 rat guards"

"What is AM doing? Oh, I think they're watching us kill trash again and trying to get trained for EZ pixels."

Good luck in WoW classic! Instances ftw!

tylercanuck
08-18-2019, 10:33 PM
This server has turned into an abomination of unclassic mechanics.

Stick a fork in it.

loramin
08-18-2019, 10:35 PM
Gotta change the banner up top to read ‘Custom Everquest’

KansasComrade
08-18-2019, 10:48 PM
https://images.app.goo.gl/5Z9JVGDn8hoX5edN7

KansasComrade
08-18-2019, 10:50 PM
https://images.app.goo.gl/5Z9JVGDn8hoX5edN7

God damnit I don't know what I'm doing.

loramin
08-18-2019, 11:12 PM
God damnit I don't know what I'm doing.

You have to use imgur.com.

KansasComrade
08-18-2019, 11:49 PM
You have to use imgur.com.

https://imgur.com/t/dave_chappelle/2fai6Wo

reznor_
08-18-2019, 11:53 PM
Code a leash in for all the ToV dragons too, IMO. End static roots. I've been saying this since the root took place.

baakss
08-19-2019, 12:03 AM
This server has turned into an abomination of unclassic mechanics.

Stick a fork in it.

People pulled Zlandi to the zoneline in 1999? Nah, you’re just a crybaby is all.

Kesselring
08-19-2019, 12:05 AM
"What is AM doing? Oh, I think they're watching us kill trash again and trying to get trained for EZ pixels."

Good luck in WoW classic! Instances ftw!

"We UsInG SkIlL tO KiLL DrAGoNs"

Rofl.

Symbioticforks
08-19-2019, 12:18 AM
This is garbage, and not explained anywhere either? A very blue solution to a very blue problem, make'm kill trash all night, that way other guilds can counter raid easier.

Kesselring
08-19-2019, 12:18 AM
People pulled Zlandi to the zoneline in 1999? Nah, you’re just a crybaby is all.


Didnt realize people in 1999 lived the same year for 10 years.

You really gotta work on the logic for your arguments.

rezzie
08-19-2019, 12:30 AM
"What is AM doing? Oh, I think they're [...] trying to get trained for EZ pixels.”

Just because we zone in to a raid zone knowing Riot is in zone does not mean we’re trying to get trained, despite their performances this week.

It does seem like that’s something all guilds need to plan around now I guess. Maybe we only send in half our raid force and use the second half to help with the CR once Riot drops the mobs on us for the umpteenth time.

Kinaki
08-19-2019, 12:34 AM
The irony in this is that more petitions come from zlandi engages/trains down near spawn than from simple fte racing/pull.

CodyF86
08-19-2019, 12:37 AM
You must have not been to the last 2 or 3 Zlandicars lol amirite? :)

feniin
08-19-2019, 12:43 AM
Just because we zone in to a raid zone knowing Riot is in zone does not mean we’re trying to get trained, despite their performances this week.

It does seem like that’s something all guilds need to plan around now I guess. Maybe we only send in half our raid force and use the second half to help with the CR once Riot drops the mobs on us for the umpteenth time.

https://i.imgur.com/B5BSVqH.png

Arvan
08-19-2019, 12:46 AM
Project 1999 - It's Not Your Grandpa's Everquest!

feniin
08-19-2019, 01:16 AM
Arvan, will you come tank Zlandi for me?

Gatordash
08-19-2019, 02:10 AM
In before Emperor Crush gets 6 guards and summons to keep the "classic feel" from all the overtwinked toons running around Crushbone.

Baylan295
08-19-2019, 02:15 AM
Just because we zone in to a raid zone knowing Riot is in zone does not mean we’re trying to get trained, despite their performances this week.

It does seem like that’s something all guilds need to plan around now I guess. Maybe we only send in half our raid force and use the second half to help with the CR once Riot drops the mobs on us for the umpteenth time.

Quit being insufferable.

shuklak
08-19-2019, 03:07 AM
In before Emperor Crush gets 6 guards and summons to keep the "classic feel" from all the overtwinked toons running around Crushbone.
Should give him Mark of the Mighty.

Kayso2
08-19-2019, 03:22 AM
Just because we zone in to a raid zone knowing Riot is in zone does not mean we’re trying to get trained, despite their performances this week.

It does seem like that’s something all guilds need to plan around now I guess. Maybe we only send in half our raid force and use the second half to help with the CR once Riot drops the mobs on us for the umpteenth time.

If I comb through our DKP site and post a kill list for the week, will you annotate each one with the appropriate excuses as to why AM lost?

shuklak
08-19-2019, 03:30 AM
Bbq
RL emergency
Tier 7 Alt loot/not worth
Trained
Someone else's fault
Wow
Green99
Summer time/fresh air
Bbq again
Deserved it but mistreated
Bbq

tylercanuck
08-19-2019, 11:09 AM
If I comb through our DKP site and post a kill list for the week, will you annotate each one with the appropriate excuses as to why AM lost?

It appears as though AM performed decently this week. This may explain why Riot chose to train the server for Vox pixels.

Yoink1986
08-19-2019, 01:18 PM
Trained the server? Trained the zone? Trained no one? I presume you aren’t even warranted to look at fraps Tyler.

Kazik
08-19-2019, 01:26 PM
People pulled Zlandi to the zoneline in 1999? Nah, you’re just a crybaby is all.

Zlandicar wasn’t around in 1999.

Did people have the ability to pull Zlandicar to zone line in Velious? Yes. That’s all that matters.

rezzie
08-19-2019, 04:26 PM
If I comb through our DKP site and post a kill list for the week, will you annotate each one with the appropriate excuses as to why AM lost?

Sure.

Molitoth
08-19-2019, 05:01 PM
If I comb through our DKP site and post a kill list for the week, will you annotate each one with the appropriate excuses as to why AM lost?

That AM doze though. I mean, they really showed Riot who is boss on that one.

tylercanuck
08-19-2019, 05:14 PM
That AM doze though. I mean, they really showed Riot who is boss on that one.

Sorry one of your warm bodies FTE’d CT early.

Endonde
08-19-2019, 09:41 PM
Sorry one of your warm bodies FTE’d CT early.

Sorry you don't have warder loot.

d3r14k
08-19-2019, 10:16 PM
Sorry one of your warm bodies FTE’d CT early.

He dropped a brain and two eyes. Pretty good, in my opinion!

Nuggie
08-19-2019, 10:35 PM
You liberals aren't going to have to worry about global warming killing everyone. The seas will rise from the tears of the P99 players that think they're mistreated.

If you don't like it WoW Classic is to the left. See you there elf-lords!

Sunderfury
08-19-2019, 10:43 PM
Did people have the ability to pull Zlandicar to zone line in Velious? Yes. That’s all that matters.

On their 56k modem with frequent LD and ping issues, missing pathing nodes, warping mobs, getting stuck on geometry, and faster than sow mobs?

Spoken like someone who didn't play on live in era.

You liberals aren't going to have to worry about global warming killing everyone. The seas will rise from the tears of the P99 players that think they're mistreated.

Best lol in years.

feniin
08-19-2019, 10:46 PM
He dropped a brain and two eyes. Pretty good, in my opinion!

And Aftermath dropped their Aegis friends the second that Doze popped.

Wonkie
08-20-2019, 12:27 AM
And Aftermath dropped their Aegis friends the second that Doze popped.

is this true? AM abandoned their alliance once good loot was available?

yeesh

Ripqozko
08-20-2019, 12:56 AM
People didn't play on partial t3? Feelsbadman

rezzie
08-20-2019, 01:16 AM
Trakanon isn’t leashed in his lair yet. Watch out Sebilis.

saftbudet
08-20-2019, 01:51 AM
is this true? AM abandoned their alliance once good loot was available?

yeesh

Secondary pick on tears from doze is actually good + Aegis just slow AM down on Doze. If talking from a rational point of view its the correct move.

kekeshi
08-20-2019, 02:14 AM
is this true? AM abandoned their alliance once good loot was available?

yeesh

Dropped them like a sack of shit in an Arby's parking lot.

AM ported out so fast, AEGIS members didn't know what was happening. Furthermore, AEGIS members are allowed last pick on loot, definitely no Ruby Tears for their efforts, but they can look forward to some twink level Koi loot when AM feels they need a 150 man raid force to off tank a couple glimmer drakes.

kekeshi
08-20-2019, 02:20 AM
Trakanon isn’t leashed in his lair yet. Watch out Sebilis.

Watch out indeed. It has been ages since AM has managed to kill a contested Trakanon.

Now that your preferred method of annihilating a zone line with trains utilizing non-classic pull mechanics to an unprepared raid force (Zlandicar) has been banned by server staff, we can look forward to your attempts to pull Trakanon to Seb entrance. I'm sure Big Daddy Rogean will be pleased with your continued efforts to shit up his server. Only question is, do you let AEGIS have VP keys?

Dugface
08-20-2019, 02:23 AM
is this true? AM abandoned their alliance once good loot was available?

yeesh

I don't think Doze is included in the agreement with Aegis, so they don't get any loot?

Dugface
08-20-2019, 02:26 AM
Anyway, loot aside, it is fun crawling NToV and killing Gods, giants and dragons, so I'd guess most Aegis members are probably enjoying it.

imsorryGMs
08-20-2019, 02:58 AM
Damn, AM using Aegis like a dirty whore. How does it feel Aegis? To be used and thrown away like that? Toxic start to an "alliance". Grats on being chopped liver.

saftbudet
08-20-2019, 04:25 AM
Anyway, loot aside, it is fun crawling NToV and killing Gods, giants and dragons, so I'd guess most Aegis members are probably enjoying it.

Hahahaha that explains it all!:D

AM are famous for its socking in ToV, with Aegis they can use them to clear the trash. Man thats so smart by AM!


Its not like the loot conveyor at zone in like they were used too pre rooted dragons, but alot better!
Now they can play p99 BBQ style still!

Kazik
08-20-2019, 08:45 AM
On their 56k modem with frequent LD and ping issues, missing pathing nodes, warping mobs, getting stuck on geometry, and faster than sow mobs?

Spoken like someone who didn't play on live in era.



Best lol in years.

I said possible, not easy.

Spoken like someone without reading comprehension.

Brocode
08-20-2019, 10:33 AM
On their 56k modem with frequent LD and ping issues, missing pathing nodes, warping mobs, getting stuck on geometry, and faster than sow mobs?

Spoken like someone who didn't play on live in era.



Best lol in years.

When did DSL Internet start?
It was bout 1999 before early adopters started using it, and the following year it reached 4% penetration. I guess "popular" was probably 2002/3 when usage grew fast: Note: This is specifically "broadband" - if you mean "internet" then dial up (V34 28kbps) went mainstream around 1994/95.1

If i had that in Brazil, 128k or 256k broadband, i bet wasnt a problem in North America, and the stability wasnt perfect, but rare was the trauma i had from LD or LD from trains, in fact i remember GMs stressing the zone to check if it would crash in case whole zone was trained/pulled at the same time to zone in.

Also if we simulate a 56k connection, and do a zone pull of those mobs without LDing, will they lift that leash? Or Rooted Dragons? Or AoE limit?(that one isnt bad since zone disruption and RMT went bad, althought should be limited by zone) :rolleyes:

Daldaen
08-20-2019, 11:13 AM
Did any guilds get suspended or broken up for exploiting Zlandicar’s pathing and pulling him out of his lair to the top side unclassically?

Because that’s something that sounds like it should warrant a 2-3 week suspension at least.

enesis
08-20-2019, 11:31 AM
I remember we worked a few times with PS/Core vs the AM zerg... now (some) Riot folks are slinging shit the same way AM did during that period. Take a look at the bigger picture fellas and try to keep your noses clean.

rezzie
08-20-2019, 11:35 AM
Did any guilds get suspended or broken up for exploiting Zlandicar’s pathing and pulling him out of his lair to the top side unclassically?

Because that’s something that sounds like it should warrant a 2-3 week suspension at least.

What? Nobody exploited his pathing.

Fammaden
08-20-2019, 11:42 AM
You vastly overestimate North American broadband and telecomm infrastructure. There were still many many many people on dial up in the early '00's and even on a 56k modem most weren't getting 56k speeds on their crappy antiquated phone lines.

BallzDeep
08-20-2019, 12:12 PM
If i had that in Brazil, 128k or 256k broadband, i bet wasnt a problem in North America, and the stability wasnt perfect, but rare was the trauma i had from LD or LD from trains, in fact i remember GMs stressing the zone to check if it would crash in case whole zone was trained/pulled at the same time to zone in.

Also if we simulate a 56k connection, and do a zone pull of those mobs without LDing, will they lift that leash? Or Rooted Dragons? Or AoE limit?(that one isnt bad since zone disruption and RMT went bad, althought should be limited by zone) :rolleyes:

If you look at the graph below the line you posted, it shows that dial-up internet surpassed broadband up until 2009. At that point, broadband users and dial-up were almost equal, but still favoring dial-up.

You can try and do a zone pull but probably much different even now. Server hardware has been upgraded, things are still better. My memory of ToV back in the day was around 100+ people in the zone and it was frame by frame.

Troxx
08-20-2019, 12:43 PM
You vastly overestimate North American broadband and telecomm infrastructure. There were still many many many people on dial up in the early '00's and even on a 56k modem most weren't getting 56k speeds on their crappy antiquated phone lines.

I was on less than 56k dialup until I went to college in 2001 and had cable internet in the dorms for the first time. Thankfully eq requires very little in terms of data transfer rates so the speed of the connection (size of the pipe) for this game is less important than the stability of the connection and physical proximity to the server.

Going LD every time someone picked up the phone was fun.

It wasn’t until closer to 2010 that I ever experienced pings reliably under 200 even with “high speed” internet.

Fammaden
08-20-2019, 12:59 PM
My memory of ToV back in the day was around 100+ people in the zone and it was frame by frame.

I remember casters/healers turning to face walls and/or pointing the camera directly at the ground in those situations to reduce the lag to a playable rate. I don't know how the hell melee and tanks functioned.

Benanov
08-20-2019, 01:19 PM
I don't know how the hell melee and tanks functioned.

Turn off particles and look at the mobs' feet, and make sure there was proper air circulation around the modem.

At least getting blinded is acceptable in the Velious UI. Remember getting blinded with Classic UI? OMG it was like your entire computer locked up mid-frame.

Nirgon
08-20-2019, 01:20 PM
Not classic

Should have forced mob rotations with one attempt first

You're desecrating Brad's vision

Kayso2
08-20-2019, 02:41 PM
I remember we worked a few times with PS/Core vs the AM zerg... now (some) Riot folks are slinging shit the same way AM did during that period. Take a look at the bigger picture fellas and try to keep your noses clean.

There's a lot more history here than you're considering -- certainly more than "during that period".

This is like going to your class reunion and seeing that the jock asshole everyone hated through elementary, middle, and high school has gotten fat and is the assistant manager at the local Dairy Queen.

I don't think any of the commentary by Riot members has been disparaging toward AEGIS. If so, that would be over the line IMHO.

Pyrrhica
08-20-2019, 04:03 PM
I seem to recall Aftermath relentlessly bagging on AW/PS for AoW team ups. We've now come full circle!

Kayso2
08-20-2019, 04:07 PM
Monrezz has an excuse for that too. It all makes perfect sense.

Kayso2
08-20-2019, 04:44 PM
Your memory is waning.

It's not bad memory. It's a folie a deux shared by everyone on the server except a select group of AM assholes who spend too much time on RnF.

Pyrrhica
08-20-2019, 04:49 PM
Your memory is waning.

Nope, I was there. Something, something feeder guild...

Brocode
08-20-2019, 05:56 PM
Oh well, my example was because as soon it became available by provider before it was announced i had it pre hired. But its true would be hard to simulate a 56k

rezzie
08-20-2019, 07:52 PM
I seem to recall Aftermath relentlessly bagging on AW/PS for AoW team ups. We've now come full circle!

By merging, right?

feniin
08-20-2019, 07:55 PM
Seems to be a lot of sour grapes over Arthion and Planarity identifying a problem (numbers/availability necessary to get dragons) and doing something to remedy said problem (merging guilds and creating a place for people who don't want to be in AM to raid).

Videri
08-20-2019, 09:44 PM
k thread is boring now. Enjoy killing the mob a slightly different way from now on.

bspa0700
08-21-2019, 12:18 AM
If I comb through our DKP site and post a kill list for the week, will you annotate each one with the appropriate excuses as to why AM lost?

And the final nail in the coffin of Riot as the good guys is complete. This is as disrespectful (or more) than anything any of the AM membership came to RNF during our 2+ years as undisputed #1. It appears 2 months for Riot is all it took to show true colors.

feniin
08-21-2019, 12:21 AM
[/b]Responders[b]

feniin
08-21-2019, 12:22 AM
Responders


Fluffed that up good. :o

imsorryGMs
08-21-2019, 12:22 AM
And the final nail in the coffin of Riot as the good guys is complete. This is as disrespectful (or more) than anything any of the AM membership came to RNF during our 2+ years as undisputed #1. It appears 2 months for Riot is all it took to show true colors.

Not even close to being as disrespectful as some of the shit AM members posts here lol

Zal22
08-21-2019, 07:32 AM
And the final nail in the coffin of Riot as the good guys is complete. This is as disrespectful (or more) than anything any of the AM membership came to RNF during our 2+ years as undisputed #1. It appears 2 months for Riot is all it took to show true colors.

Thought it was 3+ years? AM story changes a bunch.