RW & Tunare Rotations

[whyyoukickmydog]

So how much longer can AG justify having their own rotation slots?

Will the server ever admit that RW rotations are stupid and this was clearly a ridiculous idea or do we have to wait for Riot to realize how hard it's going to be to get a ring 10, in a rotated slot, as the largest guild on server?

Obligatory QQ.

[aaezil]

You sound mad and or bad, good post!

[feniin]

Yeah, let's just go back to toxic clickfests so we can test to see who has the best third party software! Nevermind Kittens and Aegis who just want a shot at a ring war a couple times a month.

[Heebs13]

So how much longer can AG justify having their own rotation slots?

Will the server ever admit that RW rotations are stupid and this was clearly a ridiculous idea or do we have to wait for Riot to realize how hard it's going to be to get a ring 10, in a rotated slot, as the largest guild on server?

Obligatory QQ.

1/10. Try harder.

[Hideousclaw]

So how much longer can AG justify having their own rotation slots?

There are, in fact, rules in place to determine this based off the current agreement! So don't you worry, this question has been taken care of.

Mark resolved, close thread.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Nobody understands the rules 100% and guilds still have to send representatives out there to make sure the other guilds are abiding by the rules they wanted.

It looks to me like AG waited more than an hour and are in Riot's slot right now.

[Heebs13]

Nobody understands the rules 100% and guilds still have to send representatives out there to make sure the other guilds are abiding by the rules they wanted.

It looks to me like AG waited more than an hour and are in Riot's slot right now.

You need to get your eyes checked then.

[PL_Barton]

Nobody understands the rules 100% and guilds still have to send representatives out there to make sure the other guilds are abiding by the rules they wanted.

It looks to me like AG waited more than an hour and are in Riot's slot right now.

Go back to grade school and learn how to tell time you chode.

[Hideousclaw]

Nobody understands the rules 100% and guilds still have to send representatives out there to make sure the other guilds are abiding by the rules they wanted.

It looks to me like AG waited more than an hour and are in Riot's slot right now.

Badain Pop 11:45am PST
[Fri Jul 05 12:30:06 2019] <ZONE MESSAGE>: This zone is repopping now!

45min. Y'all need to chill out.

Again, close thread and move to resolved.

[Arkanjil]

AG turned in within their hour. They’re fine. Good luck to them on their war.

[Hideousclaw]

AG turned in within their hour. They’re fine. Good luck to them on their war.

TY DMX! GL on the cycle!

[whyyoukickmydog]

Badain Pop 11:45am PST
[Fri Jul 05 12:30:06 2019] <ZONE MESSAGE>: This zone is repopping now!

45min. Y'all need to chill out.

Again, close thread and move to resolved.

No. This is my rant and flame - I'm getting tired of having to send lawyers everywhere to fraps/record everything because nerds always think more rules is the solution.

Wahhhh, #changemymind :mad:

[feniin]

No. This is my rant and flame - I'm getting tired of having to send lawyers everywhere to fraps/record everything because nerds always think more rules is the solution.

Wahhhh, #changemymind :mad:

File under: Drugs, move to: Resolved

[whyyoukickmydog]

You need to get your eyes checked then.

Your mom writing jokes for you again?

[savagefilip]

Good luck AG! Kill those giants good.

[mycoolrausch]

Don't need rules or rotations with instancing. Don't even need your lowest ping autofirers sitting around for 16 hours either.

[Kayso2]

AG turned in within their hour. They’re fine. Good luck to them on their war.

Good post.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Don't need rules or rotations with instancing. Don't even need your lowest ping autofirers sitting around for 16 hours either.

I'm bad and I definitely didn't use autofire to win a RW FTE. So then, how bad are you?

[Heebs13]

I'm bad and I definitely didn't use autofire to win a RW FTE. So then, how bad are you?

Go outside.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Go outside.

Says the F5 keyboard warrior who can't let 5 minutes pass without responding to a RnF post.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Heebs13 has a Batphone for RnF. Sad. I thought my EQ addiction was pathetic, but there's always someone else out there for me to look down upon.

[Nuggie]

You remember that time you made a RnF post and it horribly backfired in your face?

Ha hah ha...

Clickfest was a horrid waste of everyone's time. That's why we went away from it. Not only that, but there have been -plenty- of times where guilds(even the top guilds) didn't have a turn in for their slow and passed.

And by the way, you afraid to put your char names in your Sig?

[whyyoukickmydog]

You remember that time you made a RnF post and it horribly backfired in your face?

Ha hah ha...

Clickfest was a horrid waste of everyone's time. That's why we went away from it. Not only that, but there have been -plenty- of times where guilds(even the top guilds) didn't have a turn in for their slow and passed.

And by the way, you afraid to put your char names in your Sig?

I thought everyone here was going to agree with me and tell me how smart and cool I am. That I'm the best elf sim on p99 and we should all conform to what I want.

[d3r14k]

I don't know much about ring war clickfests, but I've seen enough indicators in here to make a judgment that OP is an asshole.

Sorry this thread didn't pan out for you.

[Comoc1]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRv-ph1Eok

[commongood]

10.25Go outside.

10.27Says the F5 keyboard warrior who can't let 5 minutes pass without responding to a RnF post.

[Synthlol]

10.25

10.27

dunked

[Heebs13]

dunked

This entire thread is just the OP dunking on himself, really.

[Jimjam]

This entire thread is just the OP dunking on himself, really.

https://i.imgur.com/UyCGUeB.gif

[Viscere]

AG turned in within their hour. They’re fine. Good luck to them on their war.

qft

GL AG!

[gutterbrain]

Thanks for the kind words. We cleared it with zero issues. Gratz Chiech!

[kaizersoze]

So how much longer can AG justify having their own rotation slots?

Will the server ever admit that RW rotations are stupid and this was clearly a ridiculous idea or do we have to wait for Riot to realize how hard it's going to be to get a ring 10, in a rotated slot, as the largest guild on server?

Obligatory QQ.

we successfully did our ring war not long ago, in non prime time. So...yeah. Not our fault you chose to move to a guild with the largest pop on the planet. Was fun sniping CT with you guys from AM tho.

[Arcler]

we successfully did our ring war not long ago, in non prime time. So...yeah. Not our fault you chose to move to a guild with the largest pop on the planet. Was fun sniping CT with you guys from AM tho.

The dude you're quoting is in Aftermath, not Riot.

[Convict]

The dude you're quoting is in Aftermath, not Riot.

Aye, when in doubt if the OP seems like a complete fucktard or if it is a smear post against AG (both in this case) its a safe bet its probably an AM post.

[Arkanjil]

Aye, when in doubt if the OP seems like a complete fucktard or if it is a smear post against AG (both in this case) its a safe bet its probably an AM post.

If the people posting in the thread seem like complete fucktards, they’re usually Riot. See, we can play that game too.

[nyclin]

if the people posting in the thread seem like complete fuckwits, you're probably reading RnF without realizing it

[icedwards]

So how did AM lose their FFA Tunare today? Couldn't pull enough grillmasters away from the barbecue?

[Goodest]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2690597&postcount=1

Maybe AM should REVIEW some rules...

[Jonabis]

It's not about getting pixels. It's about denying the competition pixels.

[feniin]

Everyone had to AFK to flip their steaks between training the mobs and engaging Tunare with the whole zone popped.

[DromalPhrenia]

It's about the competition, not the pixels. So we won the race and then a bunch of us celebrated together IRL with a barbecue. Ribs, steaks, beers, bikini babes, speedo dudes, you shoulda been there! :D

But you're not invited~

[feniin]

Detoxx playing CS instead of EQ tells you all you need to know about how that Tunare went.

[NotASmurfAct]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2690597&postcount=1

Maybe AM should REVIEW some rules...

Did AM actually engage tunare while kiting or are you trying to make things up? Bc I dont beleive AM even attacked tunare much less kited while attacking... Fraps?

[CodyF86]

No they wiped first, but why would you have a raid at tunare with 13 pets, while kiting the zone if you weren't about to engage Tunare.

[NotASmurfAct]

Ok so AM did not break any rules... Carry On

[Yoink1986]

Don’t worry the video footage if fun to watch ����

[Vallaen]

Good to know that Tunare has an issue where it doesnt pull all the mobs to the highest person on her agro list.

I wonder if CT works like that, like if only pets get sent in on Cazic Thule he doesnt have all the mobs in the zone assist him.

[CodyF86]

They didn't break the rules is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is the plan was executed so poorly that they failed to break the rules. :)

[tylercanuck]

They didn't break the rules is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is the plan was executed so poorly that they failed to break the rules. :)

You don't need to turn into an asshole just because you merged with Riot.

[Pyrrhica]

Sorry you have to play Everquest

[CodyF86]

I could have said it nicer but Rogean literally said (and i think its even in the rules) that the spirit of the rule(s) will be enforced. So saying you didnt break the rules when you at best were doing something that is against the spirit of the rule and at worst is breaking the rules is a disengenuous thing to say.

[rezzie]

AM didn't exploit any aggro mechanics, dropped the kite before engaging, and did nothing to extend the time between engaging her and the kite reaching us.

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.

Fun race and a fun encounter with 4,000+ dps. Not bad for a dead guild! Was great to get some awesome loot too, and it didn't even go to officer alts!

https://i.imgur.com/OcM8zcf.png

https://i.imgur.com/Wc4plrm.png

[phatogre]

AM for a dead guild! Was great to get some awesome loot too, and it didn't even go to officer alts!


That's awesome! I was under the impression only officer alts were still AM tagged. Keep it up guys!

[baakss]

I can only imagine what a burden it must be to deal with Monrezz’s psychotic mental gymnastics on a weekly basis in that UN channel.

[Vallaen]

I can only imagine what a burden it must be to deal with Monrezz’s psychotic mental gymnastics on a weekly basis in that UN channel.

I agree unicity seems to be a glowing ray of sunshine in there

[Baylan295]

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.


You mean the CT strategy that results in all of the mobs dead? Did everything in Growth die today?

[rezzie]

I was under the impression only officer alts were still AM tagged.

You're about as well informed as I'd expect.

[Vallaen]

Bump

[Thulghor]

I'm gonna give her the old "Fist of Nature," if you know what I mean.

[Endonde]

AM didn't exploit any aggro mechanics, dropped the kite before engaging, and did nothing to extend the time between engaging her and the kite reaching us.

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.


What about the Tunare before last where your bard forgot to drop the kite until Tunare was already half dead?

Don't get me wrong I think if done properly the dps race strategy is a decent adaptation to a really shitty raid zone, but considering Rogean's post you're definitely playing with fire.

[bspa0700]

[Mon Jul 08 02:01:28 2019] Tunare engages Condafte!

https://i.imgur.com/ZO6G79s.gif?noredirect

[Hotel]

[Mon Jul 08 02:01:28 2019] Tunare engages Condafte!

https://i.imgur.com/ZO6G79s.gif?noredirect

remember when guilds could just be carried by a few super stars like you conda?

[DromalPhrenia]

remember when guilds could just be carried by a few super stars like you conda?

*ahem* I believe you mean LEGENDS

[Freakish]

I don't get the jif.

[Convict]

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.


this is patently false but ok buddy.

Not once have I seen AG kite mobs while engaged on CT they always bring the train in and AoE it down before even starting to dps CT.

[rezzie]

this is patently false but ok buddy.

Not once have I seen AG kite mobs while engaged on CT they always bring the train in and AoE it down before even starting to dps CT.

Attend a raid or two some time and you’ll see them do it.

[Ripqozko]

Our low man strike force had one of the best tunare kills I've seen. Sorry you don't get raid. God bless these underdogs clawing day by day against and 11 guild Zerg.

[Kayso2]

AM didn't exploit any aggro mechanics, dropped the kite before engaging, and did nothing to extend the time between engaging her and the kite reaching us.

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.

The only fear mobs alive when CT dies to us are pets. That was clearly not what AM was trying to do on this Tunare.

To be clear, I'm also not saying what AM attempted is against the rules. I've got a terrible track record when trying to interpret the box owners' vision.

Grats on solid Tunare.

[matticas]

AM didn't exploit any aggro mechanics, dropped the kite before engaging, and did nothing to extend the time between engaging her and the kite reaching us.

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.

Fun race and a fun encounter with 4,000+ dps. Not bad for a dead guild! Was great to get some awesome loot too, and it didn't even go to officer alts!

https://i.imgur.com/OcM8zcf.png

https://i.imgur.com/Wc4plrm.png

loled.

[Arkanjil]

The only fear mobs alive when CT dies to us are pets. That was clearly not what AM was trying to do on this Tunare.

To be clear, I'm also not saying what AM attempted is against the rules. I've got a terrible track record when trying to interpret the box owners' vision.

Grats on solid Tunare.

I prefer to be called a hardcore lazy raider....whatever gets the job done the quickest that doesn't break the rules.

[Jonabis]

Oh shit. Did AM find a way to cheese Tunare? Time to make Tunare invulnerable until all mobs aside PoGs are down? Sorry charm classes. Or maybe Rogean steps in and gives you all another summer break? I hope Darkmanx stocked up on the dollar store steaks and A1 sauce.

[Arkanjil]

Oh shit. Did AM find a way to cheese Tunare? Time to make Tunare invulnerable until all mobs aside PoGs are down? Sorry charm classes. Or maybe Rogean steps in and gives you all another summer break? I hope Darkmanx stocked up on the dollar store steaks and A1 sauce.

You don’t even know what Worcester looks like you heathen.

[Jonabis]

You don’t even know what Worcester looks like you heathen.

Lol, too high class for me babe.

[PieOats]

I hope Darkmanx stocked up on the dollar store steaks and A1 sauce.

1. Express knowledge of dollar store product lines.
2. Implied economic stature in communicated perspective of poorliness.

#poorandnotverybright

I don't imagine you'd score higher than *160* on a FREE INTERNET IQ TEST, assuming you could afford one.

[bodenn]

Go back to grade school and learn how to tell time you chode.

HAHA chode

[Heebs13]

AG/Riot don't seem to have a problem with exploiting aggro mechanics on CT, who also does a zone-wide assist call. They keep the zone-wide kite going while engaged on CT to buy themselves time. inb4 "not a fair comparison" just because they're wearing <Riot> tags.

Just because you can't figure out how you constantly get beat on CT doesn't mean you should make shit up to try to feel better. Maybe look within to try to understand your failures and what you can do better. At the very least you and the rest of AM's RnF shitposting crew should probably keep AG's name out of your mouths cause you make yourselves look like absolute fools every time you bring us up lately.

[Jonabis]

1. Express knowledge of dollar store product lines.
2. Implied economic stature in communicated perspective of poorliness.

#poorandnotverybright

I don't imagine you'd score higher than *160* on a FREE INTERNET IQ TEST, assuming you could afford one.

Truth hurts, got me in my feelers.

[Thulghor]

1. Express knowledge of dollar store product lines.
2. Implied economic stature in communicated perspective of poorliness.

#poorandnotverybright

I don't imagine you'd score higher than *160* on a FREE INTERNET IQ TEST, assuming you could afford one.

Dang. Hit me in my poorz.

[Fifield]

Just because you can't figure out how you constantly get beat on CT doesn't mean you should make shit up to try to feel better. Maybe look within to try to understand your failures and what you can do better. At the very least you and the rest of AM's RnF shitposting crew should probably keep AG's name out of your mouths cause you make yourselves look like absolute fools every time you bring us up lately.

to be fair everyone looks like a fool who posts here

[rezzie]

Just because you can't figure out how you constantly get beat on CT doesn't mean you should make shit up to try to feel better.

You don’t have Bards runing and AoE snaring to hold/intercept the kite and bring it in separate bunches, while charming out the pets to off tank CT while dealing with adds?

It’s a nice strategy that AG mastered and we haven’t. I love it. Much more than just throwing 160+ bodies at it.

It involves building enough aggro on the kite to override CT’s call mechanism, which seems to be what people are unhappy about on Tunare. Plus that’s ignoring the fact we dropped the kite entirely before engaging Tunare. We do nothing with aggro, it’s a straight up DPS race.

[Jimjam]

Just because you can't figure out how you constantly get beat on CT doesn't mean you should make shit up to try to feel better. Maybe look within to try to understand your failures and what you can do better. At the very least you and the rest of AM's RnF shitposting crew should probably keep AG's name out of your mouths cause you make yourselves look like absolute fools every time you bring us up lately.

What I want to know is which teams are failing ring warts?! Too many times I am visiting Thurg with no Mort/Gage.

[phatogre]

You're about as well informed as I'd expect.

You kiss your mother with that tongue? Use a hyphen with compound adjective, you heathen.

[Jonabis]

It involves building enough aggro on the kite to override CT’s call mechanism, which seems to be what people are unhappy about on Tunare. Plus that’s ignoring the fact we dropped the kite entirely before engaging Tunare. We do nothing with aggro, it’s a straight up DPS race.

This part is false. His call still works. No one overrides CT's call.The bards Just seperate the pack into stacks of 25 with snare. The adds all end up where they are supposed to and get dispatched before CT dies.

Did you all sit there and orb spam her to establish tanks agro while keeping the zone kited during her calls? Did you just get a kite going to far end of zone, pop her out of the tree and auto engage? Depending on your answer you may want to quit deflecting and go ask Rog to forgive you for doing exactly what he said you shouldn't.

[rezzie]

Did you all sit there and orb spam her to establish tanks agro while keeping the zone kited during her calls? Depending on your answer you may want to quit deflecting and go ask Rog to forgive you for doing exactly what he said you shouldn't.

Nope, we didn’t do that. We also checked with GMs before trying it and got approval.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Jonabis]

Nice, if that's true I guess we should all thank you for figuring out how to shorten Tunare raids significantly.

[Kazik]

Nice, if that's true I guess we should all thank you for figuring out how to shorten Tunare raids significantly.

You’re welcome.

[Baylan295]

Nope, we didn’t do that. We also checked with GMs before trying it and got approval.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Definitely didn’t ask Llandris before, but OK.

[Bellringer]

Nope, we didn’t do that. We also checked with GMs before trying it and got approval.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Definitely didn’t ask Llandris before, but OK.

https://imgur.com/KR93TA2.gif

[rezzie]

https://imgur.com/KR93TA2.gif

Is that shock the delayed realisation you managed to run a successful guild into the ground with nothing but your insecurity and personality, and a growing sense of guilt for running off with the guild bank?

[Bellringer]

Is that shock the delayed realisation you managed to run a successful guild into the ground with nothing but your insecurity and personality, and a growing sense of guilt for running off with the guild bank?

https://imgur.com/secFK6q.gif

[Jonabis]

Which GM gave the ok to do it this way? Asking for a friend.

[Hideousclaw]

Which GM gave the ok to do it this way? Asking for a friend.

Jobartik

Definitely wasn’t a Necro pet

[whyyoukickmydog]

Just because you can't figure out how you constantly get beat on CT doesn't mean you should make shit up to try to feel better. Maybe look within to try to understand your failures and what you can do better. At the very least you and the rest of AM's RnF shitposting crew should probably keep AG's name out of your mouths cause you make yourselves look like absolute fools every time you bring us up lately.

Why you always so mad?

[Daloon]

same reason everyone is mad, failing at life

It's perfectly normal for 107 <Riot> to be online at 11AM EST on a Wednesday. Please don't flame.

[Baylan295]

It's perfectly normal for 107 <Riot> to be online at 11AM EST on a Wednesday. Please don't flame.

Premier Euro and Asian guild on the server!

[icedwards]

Sorry you didn't get raid

[Bellringer]

It's perfectly normal for 107 <Riot> to be online at 11AM EST on a Wednesday. Please don't flame.

https://i.imgur.com/UTxvSPY.jpg

[rezzie]

Imagine what Tempest could have achieved if that time was invested into your guild Bell.

[branamil]

Imagine being extremely upset that some elves got pants of +15 agi and other elves did not

[Bellringer]

Imagine what Tempest could have achieved if that time was invested into your guild Bell.

https://i.imgur.com/kGk3ZEm.gif

[tombombadilo21]

Guys, we totally killed our rotated Tunare. Time to post and brag about being bad asses,

FTFY bb

[Jonabis]

Without Bellringer, Core would have probably never existed. Without Core there would be no Riot. Think on that for a moment. Thanks old friend.

[Baylan295]

It's perfectly normal for 107 <Riot> to be online at 11AM EST on a Wednesday. Please don't flame.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2747208&postcount=1428

Almost exactly a year ago.

[feniin]

It's perfectly normal for 30-somethings to have complete memory breakdowns and forget everything before the last 2 months. Don't you know that Riot is a bunch of zerging, no-life, neckbeards, Baylan? Aftermath never would do an early morning weekday raid with triple digit numbers.

[rezzie]

https://i.imgur.com/XvWTZjR.png

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/XvWTZjR.png

Yikes man, he's in your guild. You should back him up ;)

[Kayso2]

https://i.imgur.com/XvWTZjR.png

I know American isn't your first language, so I will try to help. Someone pointing out your hypocrisy doesn't not make it hypocrisy on their part unless they claim to be above the same behavior.

No one from Riot is claiming we don't kill AoW in the morning on a weekday with 100+. We're proud that our guild's culture is so compelling that all these people want to be a part of it.

I think you should be asking yourself why you don't pull those numbers anymore. From the outside it seems like we're getting more strong recruits. Why do you think that is?

[Kayso2]

*does not

[rezzie]

Someone pointing out your hypocrisy doesn't not make it hypocrisy on their part unless they claim to be above the same behavior.

https://i.imgur.com/VYRQYEq.jpg

I think you should be asking yourself why you don't pull those numbers anymore. From the outside it seems like we're getting more strong recruits. Why do you think that is?

Can't say for sure, but realistically it's probably two-fold:

it's summer with extended weekday windows, classic WoW & green server around the corner, and crawls now taking 30-60 mins and upwards to kill (requiring attention!) instead of just a 5 minute batphone auto-attack;
some warm-weather raiders wanting to just log into a zerg and receive loot and deciding that Riot is the easiest way to achieve that.

Plenty of people liked to mock us for our warmbody batphone responders who contributed nothing but bodies. I'm glad the few that have switched so far have been able to forgive past mud-slinging and have found a welcoming home that won't judge them for it.

[Lewkeng]

Imagine what Tempest could have achieved if that time was invested into your guild Bell.

Imagine what tempest could have been if no time was invested by him is a better question.

[Hideousclaw]

https://i.imgur.com/VYRQYEq.jpg



Can't say for sure, but realistically it's probably two-fold:

it's summer with extended weekday windows, classic WoW & green server around the corner, and crawls now taking 30-60 mins and upwards to kill (requiring attention!) instead of just a 5 minute batphone auto-attack;
some warm-weather raiders wanting to just log into a zerg and receive loot and deciding that Riot is the easiest way to achieve that.

Plenty of people liked to mock us for our warmbody batphone responders who contributed nothing but bodies. I'm glad the few that have switched so far have been able to forgive past mud-slinging and have found a welcoming home that won't judge them for it.

You also completely ignore this factor:

3. You have a very vocal minority who are not discouraged by officers from talking like they do. That minority does a lot to sway the opinion of outsiders on what AM is and how they act. They do it both in game and on forums, and their attitudes turn people away and towards guilds who tend to put a more positive face forward.

AM is a guild who's outward identity, maybe against what the officers would prefer, is that of an isolationist guild whom does everything on their own and could care less what other guilds think.

While that isn't wholly the worst position to have, you can't expect elongated growth when a lot of the more casual guilds end up feeding the top guilds. Casual guilds can't often compete on many mobs, and when they see a guild getting more mobs and that guild is willing to partner up and take others under their wing it becomes easy to see who they would prefer to go towards when the members feel that itch to raid more.

AM isn't all horrible people. Shit, even one of the "offenders" who paint a not so friendly picture of AM, Tofat, is a really kind guy. I have had a few really pleasant conversations and I do enjoy when they happen. But the thing is that you allow members to paint you into a light that is less than favorable. First impressions of a lvl 20 first time character isn't going to be in ToV, it will be here. They see that, and from there they will develop their perceptions of your guild.

Summer doesn't help. Green and Classic WoW don't help. A couple bad cycles and a couple people jumping shit don't help. But those are all small fractions of the whole.

It may be easy to sit from the inside and see what you see and say "naw, this isn't an issue. Were a guild of people who are fun and friendly" or whatever. But the head has to come outta the sand, you got to step out of your shoes and see what others see.

yes, i know. tl;dr

[aaezil]

Did danny boi really try to burn a guild for killing a mob at 11 am? Dont you guys batphone dragons at 4 am like every 7 days? Rofl.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/XvWTZjR.png

hypocrisy is a childs argument

[Sajan]

Imagine what tempest could have been if no time was invested by him is a better question.

Ryantwin20, you've been keeping a low profile for awhile now..

Don't blow your cover bruh

[Lewkeng]

Ryantwin20, you've been keeping a low profile for awhile now..

Don't blow your cover bruh

lol who

[YendorLootmonkey]

and crawls now taking 30-60 mins and upwards to kill (requiring attention!) instead of just a 5 minute batphone auto-attack

Imagine being told for years that casual scum just want no-effort handouts and are undeserving of raid loot, and then reading that raiding is suddenly just too much effort now that 90% of the uberguild who isn't involved in the pull can't just log in at the zoneline and press auto-attack on a mob for 5 minutes until it ejaculates loot in their waiting, open gullets.

https://i.imgur.com/VsjYWPn.jpg

[Nirgon]

lol raid rules

hey as long as they dont use spirit of scale or bard shadow step song

youre the geniuses who came up with this horrid system

[Vallaen]

We all ignoring the part where Tofat was called a really kind guy?

[Hideousclaw]

We all ignoring the part where Tofat was called a really kind guy?

Most the time I have personally encountered him in game has been positive, yes. On forums hes a bit much.

[Vallaen]

Most the time I have personally encountered him in game has been positive, yes. On forums hes a bit much.

try being on discord with him

[Hideousclaw]

try being on discord with him

Maybe one day that will happen, but not today.

[Vallaen]

Maybe one day that will happen, but not today.

Can i fill out an app for him to join AG?

[Hideousclaw]

Can i fill out an app for him to join AG?

All apps must be filled out by the owner of the account of which the character applying is on. Any attempt to break this rule will be punishable by not getting any buffs or hugs/cheers from Miggy in WC. Second attempts to break these rules will be punished by a Heebs forum post. Third attempts will be punished with a Toopy rant of which you will never recover.

[Hideousclaw]

Can i fill out an app for him to join AG?

also, is he still sub-55? Only sub-55's we let in are ones with epics.

[gutterbrain]

All apps must be filled out by the owner of the account of which the character applying is on. Any attempt to break this rule will be punishable by not getting any buffs or hugs/cheers from Miggy in WC. Second attempts to break these rules will be punished by a Heebs forum post. Third attempts will be punished with a Toopy rant of which you will never recover.

Trust me guys, you wanna avoid that third punishment.

[rezzie]

Whenever I've grouped with Tofat he spent the whole time training me. B-, would not recommend.

[Baylan295]

Whenever I've grouped with Tofat he spent the whole time training me. B-, would not recommend.

Were you standing on the tracks?

[Heebs13]

Most the time I have personally encountered him in game has been positive, yes. On forums hes a bit much.

He's a bit much on the forums but I hold out hope that it's an act... like he's being exceedingly arrogant and obnoxious in an ironic way, if you get what I mean.

Never actually encountered him in game.

[bspa0700]

He's a bit much on the forums but I hold out hope that it's an act... like he's being exceedingly arrogant and obnoxious in an ironic way, if you get what I mean.

Never actually encountered him in game.

For the most part, he's just taking the piss.

Only on a EQ emulator could that not be obvious.