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Salty
04-12-2011, 03:29 PM
Detectives up in this shit.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/168556d1302573894-new-p1999-cripple-fight-3boxer.jpg

yaaaflow
04-12-2011, 03:31 PM
what am i looking at here

context please

Salty
04-12-2011, 03:31 PM
Pal from our forums was afraid of posting it on here so big salty got it

Salty
04-12-2011, 03:32 PM
Band and gmomsicle plvled dexs to 60 while being out of group

Salty
04-12-2011, 03:33 PM
must be good friends? lawl not

Trimm
04-12-2011, 03:42 PM
Hah, I've been checking in on Vox for the last 2 weeks and I just assumed these guys were unguilded trackers also. Shows what I know.

mitic
04-12-2011, 03:46 PM
wts ranger-powerlevel to salty for 2k per hour

Daldaen
04-12-2011, 03:47 PM
OMGZ 1337 druid exp spot brt.

Salty
04-12-2011, 03:50 PM
I'm not convinced that anyone on p99 would plvl one dude to 60 without caring about their xp. Especially non-guilded chars who are never on when he isn't.

Chanur
04-12-2011, 03:53 PM
The cheating douche bags should be dragged into the street and pepper sprayed and tazed, or banned which ever is easier.

KilyenaMage
04-12-2011, 03:54 PM
You'd probably be correct.

Couldn't even bum 20pp for spells in EC a week ago -- not even from people selling 500k worth of gear.

This server is just as bad as VZTZ imo.

stonebeard22
04-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Very good friends...

Salty
04-12-2011, 03:57 PM
People on vztz would of given you that 20pp ezpz.

I was a newb on 2 different occasions, right off the blue boat to pvp, and vztz pals would always hook my char up with something just by being a lowbie random.

Shit you can't find on p99~

mitic
04-12-2011, 03:59 PM
i bet P99 devs/gms appreciate all your kind words about their server.

Chanur
04-12-2011, 03:59 PM
Big Salty needs a pulitzer or merit badge for this.

Lazortag
04-12-2011, 03:59 PM
People on vztz would of given you that 20pp ezpz.

I was a newb on 2 different occasions, right off the blue boat to pvp, and vztz pals would always hook my char up with something just by being a lowbie random.

Shit you can't find on p99~

That's totally not true. On p99 there are lots of generous people who give things away constantly, just like it was back in the day. If you actually interacted with people instead of just 3-boxing your way to 50, you'd realize that.

bman8810
04-12-2011, 04:00 PM
http://www.shacabkamedia.com/warka/images/stories/2010/august/obama-muslim.jpg

Hey guys, check out this picture of President Obama.

Looks to be pretty damning to me.

jarlaxle
04-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Each time i went into permafrost over a few day period (to get my mammoth hide cloak) he was in there with his two buddies... figured they were just waiting on a vox spawn or whatever. I actually ran down to the giant polar bears and watched him get PLd for a few minutes.. i was also sitting in there late one morning and no one was in zone, when i checked who was in zone again those 3 names popped up at the same time back to doing whatever they were doing, pling? twoboxing? Threeboxing? Who knows

tj218
04-12-2011, 04:20 PM
I don't think that is proof of 2(or 3) boxing. Were the other two non-responsive. Were they all doing stuff at the same time? etc.

Also I don't know enough about end-game or caster classes but could there be a benefit for getting him to 60, then he can easily p'lvel the others in the guild?

But WTF do I know.

Malakriss
04-12-2011, 04:20 PM
I'm sure it was 3 actual different people on the same LAN and the 2 people who were PLing simply spent most of their time watching the druid's screen instead of their own.

guineapig
04-12-2011, 04:23 PM
Just going to go ahead and say that, posting this screenshot in R&F probably won't get anything accomplished.

If you're certain there was cheating going on and want to see something done about this and you have some evidence, I would create a proper petition.

This is not meant as discouragement.

Salty
04-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Just going to go ahead and say that, posting this screenshot in R&F probably won't get anything accomplished.

If you're certain there was cheating going on and want to see something done about this and you have some evidence, I would create a proper petition.

This is not meant as discouragement.

I'm not trying to cry to GMs.

I'm informing the community.

Why would big Salty want to bother the GMs about something such as this to dig through logs all day?

Might aswell slap facts down, make a thread about it, put it in the correct area for everyone to talk shit, and call it a day.


la~

Swordsly
04-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Easily resolved, file a formal complaint with times, SS, and anything you might have fraps'd. Its not hard for a GM to look who was connected to what account and at what time. If this is true, he should eat a banhammer if you ask me, and u should reset the druid lvl 60 accomplishment.
Whats the point of 3boxxing yourself to 60 anyway? its not like its really that hard

Salty
04-12-2011, 04:46 PM
file a formal complaint with times, SS, and anything you might have fraps'd.

I am Salty, that's not how big Salty rolls.

If someone is making funnies on the staff than so be it. I'm only a community member looking out for the community.

Game mechanics is the only thing worthy.

Koota
04-12-2011, 04:50 PM
If someone is making funnies on the staff than so be it. I'm only a community member looking out for the community.




Wow, what a load of shit. I laughed.

Salty
04-12-2011, 04:52 PM
Wow, what a load of shit. I laughed.

We catchin crooks up in this thread bro

Koota
04-12-2011, 04:53 PM
Umm ok.

Swordsly
04-12-2011, 04:53 PM
that's not how big Salty rolls.

If someone is making funnies on the staff than so be it. I'm only a community member looking out for the community.

Game mechanics is the only thing worthy.

So i gather from this statement that "big salty" is quite ineffective when it comes to getting things done.

Rushmore
04-12-2011, 04:54 PM
Salty is RED99 coming?

Salty
04-12-2011, 04:58 PM
So i gather from this statement that "big salty" is quite ineffective when it comes to getting things done.

Getting things done is crying to GMs?

This is the problem with the p99 community.


I don't think many understand the problem with 900 people petitioning 5 guys about every interactions that takes place on the server.

Take the short tempers for instance. When you see GMs lash out at the community for all the crybaby shit, disturbing what could be a game mechanics fix.

~

Ihealyou
04-12-2011, 05:02 PM
I got a screenshot of him boxing too


http://i54.tinypic.com/2imaut3.jpg

Mcbard
04-12-2011, 05:03 PM
This thread took an expected twist.

tj218
04-12-2011, 05:05 PM
I don't think that is proof of 2(or 3) boxing. Were the other two non-responsive? Were they all doing stuff at the same time? etc.

Also I don't know enough about end-game or caster classes but could there be a benefit for getting him to 60, then he can easily p'lvel the others in the guild?

But WTF do I know.

Koota
04-12-2011, 05:05 PM
Ihealyou once again saving another thread. Awesome picture

Petrified Wood
04-12-2011, 05:07 PM
You'd probably be correct.

Couldn't even bum 20pp for spells in EC a week ago -- not even from people selling 500k worth of gear.

This server is just as bad as VZTZ imo.
Decided to comment on this part of the thread. I've never played on VZTZ so I have no opinion one way or another on that. On p99 in my experience a little bit of plat never hurts when it comes to getting assistance, but you can usually recieve the same help with just using some kind words. Appreciate, thank you, (etc) goes a long ways. I've had ppl not willing to give me the time of day, and other go above and beyond what I asked for help. Get a feel for the ppl around you, its not that big of server tbh and you would be suprised how often you will run into the same folks. Keep in mind what comes around goes around in a small community. All I ask when helping ppl out is to return the favor to someone else in the future. Not everyone will do this, but Ill keep helping and keep hoping :)

Swordsly
04-12-2011, 05:10 PM
Getting things done is crying to GMs?

This is the problem with the p99 community.


I don't think many understand the problem with 900 people petitioning 5 guys about every interactions that takes place on the server.

Take the short tempers for instance. When you see GMs lash out at the community for all the crybaby shit, disturbing what could be a game mechanics fix.

~

Lol at warped sense of how things work. You sir are fucking retarded. enjoy your "mechanic fixes"

btw id lash out at you if i were a GM too, i have this thing where i hate things that are stupid.

Salty
04-12-2011, 05:11 PM
You make uthgaard upset with your constant petitions

Massive Marc
04-12-2011, 05:14 PM
OMG someone from TR boxing. NO WAYZ bro.

Ennoia
04-12-2011, 05:22 PM
People on vztz would of given you that 20pp ezpz.

I was a newb on 2 different occasions, right off the blue boat to pvp, and vztz pals would always hook my char up with something just by being a lowbie random.

Shit you can't find on p99~

Not true at all. People on P99 give random shit to people all the time.

Chanur
04-12-2011, 05:31 PM
Hi everybody. Meet Dexs. He is the first 60 druid. Also, meet his friends Gnomsicle and Bandaids. They helped powerlevel him to 60. Dexs is so fortunate to have such great friends to spend half the day powerleveling him for several days like that. They don't even bother him will pointless small talk while they do it, are willing to never leave permafrost until he is 60, and set their alarms to wake up with at weird hours just like him. They like Dexs so much, they won't even play when he is not on. They are also so good at the game, that they don't even have to look at the mobs they are fighting. They seem a bit shy though, because they said nothing to him in say as the server broadcasted his first 60 druid achievement, before promptly logging off on the same kill that made him 60.

Everyone congratulate TR on another well earned victory.

For your reading pleasure.

YendorLootmonkey
04-12-2011, 05:33 PM
Not true at all. People on P99 give random shit to people all the time.

Why just the other day, I saw a benevolent and generous mage handing out free mod rods to newbies in Gfay.

naez
04-12-2011, 05:40 PM
i tried to beg loots from this 'Bob the Broker' guy in the tunnel what an asswhole

Loke
04-12-2011, 05:43 PM
I don't know Dexs well, and have absolutely no first hand factual knowledge regarding his supposed boxing - I will say that on a number of occasions I have convinced friends who play WoW or what not to log in characters for me and toss me buffs every 15 minutes or so. Like wise, I have done the same for friends. It isn't hard to toss someone buffs every now and then while doing home work or watching a movie. Hell, I've been petitioned a number of times because Loke and my old wizard alt Ioke were logged in at the same time and people assumed I was boxing.

While I agree that it is unlikely I could personally convince one of my gaming buddies to stay logged in for countless hours every day PLing me - I don't think I'd have any problem convincing a few to do it if they were playing other games, hanging out in vent and thus at their computer anyway. Maybe Dex is just more persuasive or has better friends than you or I.. /shrug.

Prince
04-12-2011, 06:08 PM
i tried to beg loots from this 'Bob the Broker' guy in the tunnel what an asswhole

bob is confirmed 32nd level blue blood freemason tbh

naez
04-12-2011, 06:31 PM
i know another 32nd degree mason it means nothing he is not part of the zionist elite that will kill us all

Envious
04-12-2011, 07:08 PM
Does this mean that Salty will NOT be using that MQ2 client he emailed to like 50 people while playing on VZ/TZ?

Salty
04-12-2011, 07:36 PM
Big salty can guarantee that your pixels won't be harmed by MQ on red99.

Rogean was like, hey man try and hax my box, and I'm like, fuck dude you hacked my gibson, and he is all like man; that's red99 son.

maegi
04-12-2011, 09:01 PM
This thread is proof that smoking Drano crystals, even in small doses, causes massive brain damage.

Salty
04-12-2011, 09:33 PM
All I hear is TR fanboys upset that one of their own got caught boxing it huge.

Bruuce
04-12-2011, 10:26 PM
pretty sure TR has free pass just to do whatever, no surprise to see how little GMs care.

Bruuce
04-12-2011, 10:26 PM
.foils 2box plot

Bruuce
04-12-2011, 10:27 PM
thats not a tag

Pudge
04-12-2011, 11:08 PM
People on vztz would of given you that 20pp ezpz.

I was a newb on 2 different occasions, right off the blue boat to pvp, and vztz pals would always hook my char up with something just by being a lowbie random.

Shit you can't find on p99~

hah so true. salty i would Plvl random newbs - i would look for them specifically, /who all 2-30 (cant trust those level 1s) give them money for spells, level them up quick to 30 in misty + splitpaw. took like an hour and a half.

Pudge
04-12-2011, 11:10 PM
Does this mean that Salty will NOT be using that MQ2 client he emailed to like 50 people while playing on VZ/TZ?

ya salty that was mad homo im sorry man, but why fuck up a server :( dont help ppl hack you know it just makes the server go to shit. why fuck it up, even if you're not playing at the time it's still pretty low

Jeah
04-12-2011, 11:13 PM
Maybe Dex is just more persuasive or has better friends than you or I.. /shrug.

I too love ignoring obvious facts. I'm sure he must have the best friends in the world to power level him to 60 with 2 characters.

Macken
04-13-2011, 12:11 AM
I too love ignoring obvious facts. I'm sure he must have the best friends in the world to power level him to 60 with 2 characters.

When dexs is finally caught, it would be wise to ban all those who came to forums trying to confuse the situation.

Daldaen
04-13-2011, 12:12 AM
Or just unban boxing...

/ducks

Macken
04-13-2011, 12:16 AM
hah so true. salty i would Plvl random newbs - i would look for them specifically, /who all 2-30 (cant trust those level 1s) give them money for spells, level them up quick to 30 in misty + splitpaw. took like an hour and a half.

So true.

I even have eye witness video of Pudge helping those noobs.


<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="1280" height="750" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TvJ2hI94YHw?rel=0&amp;hd=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

john_savage1982
04-13-2011, 12:27 AM
Very good friends...

Yeah a guy I know was banned for trying to PL his irl brother.

Scroll
04-13-2011, 12:40 AM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tktuGaxLTL8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 04:54 AM
When dexs is finally caught, it would be wise to ban all those who came to forums trying to confuse the situation.

If someone actually wants something done about it posting in the petition forum might be a better idea than R&F. Sending a tell to a TR officer (Xzerion, Trystych, Mady, Nirron...fuck I forget who else) also couldn't hurt.

Macken
04-13-2011, 05:12 AM
You are confused.

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 05:22 AM
You are confused.

I'm really not, I'm just pretty sure Dexs legit had people sitting there on different computers tossing him buffs while they did homework or whatever. It takes all of a few minutes to check if those characters 1) were logged in from the same IP/same area, 2) have ever been online when Dexs wasn't, 3) were taking actions at the same time as Dexs.

Nothing was said in /say or whatever because they were probably on Teamspeak.

Rael
04-13-2011, 07:04 AM
You are confused.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nyoWmkhRyp8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hasbinbad
04-13-2011, 07:19 AM
facts
ROFL

Envious
04-13-2011, 08:17 AM
SO, when you get griefed off this server, your not going to go Kringe / Smedy and try to ruin it for everyone else like you did the last time?

I'm not buying it.

Hell, my post wasnt even about the time that you got smashed and quit playing, then posted MQ2 on the forums for everyone to download, I was refering to when you emailed it to like 50 people in Fish Bait~

Macken
04-13-2011, 09:59 AM
I'm really not, I'm just pretty sure Dexs legit had people sitting there on different computers tossing him buffs while they did homework or whatever. It takes all of a few minutes to check if those characters 1) were logged in from the same IP/same area, 2) have ever been online when Dexs wasn't, 3) were taking actions at the same time as Dexs.

Nothing was said in /say or whatever because they were probably on Teamspeak.

Wasn't even talking about or caring if dexs was guilty. Which makes you seems all the more suspicious + all the ones coming to forum to defend an accused boxer.

Maybe instead of cross referencing if have ever been on line when dexs, they should cross reference to see any connection with forum posters coming to his defense.

mitic
04-13-2011, 11:11 AM
Wasn't even talking about or caring if dexs was guilty. Which makes you seems all the more suspicious + all the ones coming to forum to defend an accused boxer.

Maybe instead of cross referencing if have ever been on line when dexs, they should cross reference to see any connection with forum posters coming to his defense.

http://tinfoilhatparty.org/images/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Macken
04-13-2011, 11:23 AM
ban mitic too.

Loly Taa
04-13-2011, 11:50 AM
The sad truth of the matter is some people on this server are allowed to box, as long as they aren't caught by Uthgaard. Generally the people who box and get away with it know this and go to great lengths to stay out of the way when he's around.

I do like that about Uthgaard though. No matter what shit doesn't slip past him, no matter who you are. (Barring other GMs/Devs ofc)

quido
04-13-2011, 11:57 AM
Assuming that no one gets away with boxing is even more absurd than thinking everyone boxes.

People are so quick to throw out the "tinfoil hat" accusation these days and I think it's retarded. Claiming that someone else is claiming a conspiracy because they're suggesting people defending an alleged boxer on the forums are possibly involved is stupid. Yes I think these comments are unnecessary and stupid themselves - Uthgaard or whoever knows way better than you how to cross-reference whatever-the-fuck it is to get some evidence. They don't need your random suggestions and help once the issue has been brought to their attention. But save your idiotic tinfoil hat comments for where they are actually applicable, namely when people accuse the staff of popping mobs for TR and other such retardation.

Massive Marc
04-13-2011, 12:05 PM
Uthgaard or whoever knows way better than you how to cross-reference whatever-the-fuck it is to get some evidence.

Lawlz...

mitic
04-13-2011, 12:09 PM
ban mitic too.

http://en.contrainfo.espiv.net/files/2011/01/witch-hunt.jpg

Hasbinbad
04-13-2011, 12:10 PM
Assuming that no one gets away with boxing is even more absurd than thinking everyone boxes.

People are so quick to throw out the "tinfoil hat" accusation these days and I think it's retarded. Claiming that someone else is claiming a conspiracy because they're suggesting people defending an alleged boxer on the forums are possibly involved is stupid. Yes I think these comments are unnecessary and stupid themselves - Uthgaard or whoever knows way better than you how to cross-reference whatever-the-fuck it is to get some evidence. They don't need your random suggestions and help once the issue has been brought to their attention. But save your idiotic tinfoil hat comments for where they are actually applicable, namely when people accuse the staff of popping mobs for TR and other such retardation.
I think you have a tinfoil hat on about people that wear tinfoil hats!!

Smedy
04-13-2011, 12:54 PM
I've been around everquest for over 10 years and i've never seen cheating this bad. Have this guy publicly lynched for his extremely bad behavior.

Envious
04-13-2011, 01:29 PM
I've been around everquest for over 10 years and i've never seen cheating this bad. Have this guy publicly lynched for his extremely bad behavior.

Zone cmd delete what?

quido
04-13-2011, 01:36 PM
I think you have a tinfoil hat on about people that wear tinfoil hats!!

I think you have a tinfoil hat on about people that have tinfoil hats on regarding people who wear tinfoil hats!!

Ozudin
04-13-2011, 01:53 PM
I think you have a tinfoil hat on about people that have tinfoil hats on regarding people who wear tinfoil hats!!

Excision Rottun
04-13-2011, 02:21 PM
SALTY Y U NO POST GRAPH?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j44rc6.png

Yinaltin
04-13-2011, 02:34 PM
yintroll is in .

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 05:31 PM
Assuming that no one gets away with boxing is even more absurd than thinking everyone boxes.

People are so quick to throw out the "tinfoil hat" accusation these days and I think it's retarded. Claiming that someone else is claiming a conspiracy because they're suggesting people defending an alleged boxer on the forums are possibly involved is stupid. Yes I think these comments are unnecessary and stupid themselves - Uthgaard or whoever knows way better than you how to cross-reference whatever-the-fuck it is to get some evidence. They don't need your random suggestions and help once the issue has been brought to their attention. But save your idiotic tinfoil hat comments for where they are actually applicable, namely when people accuse the staff of popping mobs for TR and other such retardation.

If the staff popped mobs for TR I wouldn't have spent almost an entire day clearing PoFear like 3 times a few days before I quit because the zone kept bugging out.

Also, for the record, I hate Dexs, but I still don't think he was boxing.

Smedy
04-13-2011, 05:49 PM
Salty banned ?! wut happened pals, blue pixels are mad?

Shannacore
04-13-2011, 06:27 PM
Salty banned ?! wut happened pals, blue pixels are mad?

nnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Kink
04-13-2011, 06:45 PM
Salty started this thread originally because the person who took the first screenshot was afraid of getting banned if he posted evidence of a TR member boxing.

Coincidence?

Dongshow
04-13-2011, 06:50 PM
I've reached a conclusion. Dexs from TR must of gotten to one of the GM (or is a GM?) and threatened their family if action wasn't taken against Salty, Emperor of dead box.

senna
04-13-2011, 06:56 PM
Shit just got real

Kink
04-13-2011, 06:59 PM
So Salty posts a screen of some fishy behavior and gets banned? The dude talked mad smack in every other thread on this forum and this is what gets him banned?

So posting something fishy gets dealt with by banning someone fishialy, something about this is fishy guys.

Dongshow
04-13-2011, 06:59 PM
So Salty posts a screen of some fishy behavior and gets banned? The dude talked mad smack in every other thread on this forum and this is what gets him banned?

So posting something fishy gets dealt with by banning someone fishialy, something about this is fishy guys.

INC BAN FOR KINK FOR QUESTIONING GM WISDOM. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU

Kink
04-13-2011, 07:01 PM
If I get banned you better believe there is some bs going on here.

Excision Rottun
04-13-2011, 07:07 PM
So Salty posts a screen of some fishy behavior and gets banned? The dude talked mad smack in every other thread on this forum and this is what gets him banned?

So posting something fishy gets dealt with by banning someone fishialy, something about this is fishy guys.

Might have been something to do with this thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32994

Or just general asshatery.

Bruno
04-13-2011, 07:08 PM
He went out in the name of justice.

Kink
04-13-2011, 07:11 PM
Might have been something to do with this thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32994

Or just general asshatery.

He has been doing that forever. Weird timing no?

Bruno
04-13-2011, 07:12 PM
Might have been something to do with this thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32994

Or just general asshatery.

That probably could have been averted is it wasn't posted in RnF, but what the fuck do I know.

Tiggles
04-13-2011, 07:37 PM
Big Salty knows how to play the game

Act like a noble soul uncovering a secret conspiracy in one thread.

Then purposly piss off gms in a completely unrelated thread to get banned.

Then his Box Pals say he got banned by corrupt gms in the first thread.

Ronas
04-13-2011, 07:43 PM
you bitch you die

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 07:46 PM
All Salty ever did here was troll and be obnoxious. Rogean already gave all of you VZ/TZ mouthbreather rejects a warning, which after some of the shit that's been said on here,was way more than most of you deserved. He doesn't need to be policing the forums every time one of you is on, he's got a lot of fucking work to do, as does Uthgaard (Lord High Emperor of the Banhammer), Nilbog, and everyone else on the dev/GM staff.

People like Salty are the reason the VZ/TZ staff quit. They just couldn't put up with the bullshit. Sure, P99 has had some staff members quit because of people's bullshit, but the 3 named above aren't going to take people's shit, they're going to squash it and remove the problem so they can get on with their lives.

Kink
04-13-2011, 07:51 PM
All Salty ever did here was troll and be obnoxious. Rogean already gave all of you VZ/TZ mouthbreather rejects a warning, which after some of the shit that's been said on here,was way more than most of you deserved. He doesn't need to be policing the forums every time one of you is on, he's got a lot of fucking work to do, as does Uthgaard (Lord High Emperor of the Banhammer), Nilbog, and everyone else on the dev/GM staff.

People like Salty are the reason the VZ/TZ staff quit. They just couldn't put up with the bullshit. Sure, P99 has had some staff members quit because of people's bullshit, but the 3 named above aren't going to take people's shit, they're going to squash it and remove the problem so they can get on with their lives.

Hows the gm cock taste in your mouth? Do you swallow? I like it when my bitches swallow.

Tiggles
04-13-2011, 07:52 PM
Hows the gm cock taste in your mouth? Do you swallow? I like it when my bitches swallow.

Your pvp server is never coming out

Kink
04-13-2011, 07:53 PM
Your pvp server is never coming out

I don't pvp. I know that is the only thing you faggots have to fall back on. Someone claiming gm bullshit? Ahhh must be a pvper.

I do not PVP, I hate cheaters, favoritism and ball hangers.

Bruno
04-13-2011, 08:07 PM
Ennoia seems to have a lot of built up anger. Maybe from not being able to sell his mage account.

Smedy
04-13-2011, 08:13 PM
You might argue that the vztz community is the fault behind the demise of vztz but i can tell you (after being in that community from mid 2007) that it was decisions made by the staff, which killed the community.

However those decisions was triggered by trolls and crybabies on the forums simply because they were loosing the raid bosses in pvp and with the mentality (If i can't have it no one should) they promptly started trolling the forums with multiple forum users to make it look like everyone wanted wipe, while the rest of the population was busy playing.

VZTZ once had a great community, where discussions and balancing and real arguments (not just trolling) took place, but after many many bad moves on the staffs side most of them left.

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 08:26 PM
Hows the gm cock taste in your mouth? Do you swallow? I like it when my bitches swallow.

Tastes a lot like I know the bullshit these guys go through with trying to get everything all figured out and working properly while having to deal with people's nonsense bullshit bitching all the time. People don't commend them enough for dedicating their time to something for people they don't even know. If you don't think they deserve a bit of praise every once in a while then get fucked and get out.

You might argue that the vztz community is the fault behind the demise of vztz but i can tell you (after being in that community from mid 2007) that it was decisions made by the staff, which killed the community.

However those decisions was triggered by trolls and crybabies on the forums simply because they were loosing the raid bosses in pvp and with the mentality (If i can't have it no one should) they promptly started trolling the forums with multiple forum users to make it look like everyone wanted wipe, while the rest of the population was busy playing.

VZTZ once had a great community, where discussions and balancing and real arguments (not just trolling) took place, but after many many bad moves on the staffs side most of them left.

The community, as you said yourself above, had a big impact on those decisions that led to the downfall of the server. Do you think a lot of those poor choices would have been made had people not been fucking with them?

I like how Bruno makes assumptions that I'm 'angry because I couldn't sell my Magician' when I 1) Never tried to sell it. Was looking for a trade for a class I liked better 2) My anger is not in any way influenced by EQ, I'm pissed off at the world in general. Yea, I've said horrible things to people who did something stupid involving EQ, but that's because stupidity and a lack of common fucking sense pisses me off. Huh, seems like I should take Uthgaard out for a beer so we can talk about people being idiots.

Kink
04-13-2011, 08:32 PM
Tastes a lot like I know the bullshit these guys go through with trying to get everything all figured out and working properly while having to deal with people's nonsense bullshit bitching all the time.


So your not denying that you suck GM cock then? Very brave of you.

The GM's did do a great job of getting this server up and running. The game is good. They know how to code, grats to them.

That being said. They don't know how to run a community very well. Thats pretty fucking evident.

Hobby
04-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Just...for the record...we wouldnt wait for 5 pages to develop and a week of posting to ban the person who STARTED the thread.


Anyways, carry on.

Kink
04-13-2011, 08:36 PM
Hey Hobby, have you even investigated Dexs boxing yet?

Kink
04-13-2011, 08:40 PM
At least 3 people in this thread saw suspicious behavior from Dexs as regards to boxing. Or are you guys only concerned with trolling now a days?

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 08:54 PM
So your not denying that you suck GM cock then? Very brave of you.

The GM's did do a great job of getting this server up and running. The game is good. They know how to code, grats to them.

That being said. They don't know how to run a community very well. Thats pretty fucking evident.

Abacab is gone, Harrison got banned from the forums, Salty is gone. Seems like they do a pretty good job of running it to me.

Every time I give Rogean a blumpkin he casts a sweet Illusion:Vah Shir on me and Nilbog chain Cazic Touches me for the next hour because of it, because cats on the moon is one of the dumbest fucking concepts Sony ever created.

Ennoia
04-13-2011, 08:57 PM
Hey Hobby, have you even investigated Dexs boxing yet?

After the situation getting this much attention I am almost positive it was looked into. I'm not sure Dexs even has an IP exemption on his account, making boxing nearly impossible.

Dongshow
04-13-2011, 08:59 PM
After the situation getting this much attention I am almost positive it was looked into. I'm not sure Dexs even has an IP exemption on his account, making boxing nearly impossible.

Called a VPN scrub. Learn to internet.

Kink
04-13-2011, 09:22 PM
After the situation getting this much attention I am almost positive it was looked into. I'm not sure Dexs even has an IP exemption on his account, making boxing nearly impossible.

Because the only way to cheat box is to ask the GMs for an exemption then box. Wow. The people who really want to box to get ahead would find a way around the system.

Hey lets make people register there firearms. That will deter criminals from shooting people or using guns for bad means. Herp derp.

Uthgaard
04-13-2011, 09:31 PM
Lets get one thing straight folks. We don't answer to you.

There has been a lot of petitions lately, a lot of posts on the forums, with everyone trying to critique GM Decisions. The developers of this project put way too much time into this for us to be put on the spotlight every single time we make a decision, ESPECIALLY when you ASSUME you know all the facts. 90% of the time, you don't. Situations are handled between the staff and the players directly involved. Any dialog between a GM and a player can be considered a private matter, and will not be open to public debate. Players will divulge their interactions with GM's as they see fit, maybe giving all details and maybe not disclosing all of it, and quite possible they themselves aren't aware of every point of consideration in a staff decision.

I'm getting quite tired of everything being questioned, everyone assuming they are experts in every decision being made. Its getting old quite fast. We make decisions based on our best judgements, often discussing large impacting decisions with several staff members first. You are welcome to report anything you may believe to be unjustified use of GM privileges to the petition forum or Nilbog and myself, but this would only be in situations where you believe a GM did not act as they are instructed so, and an investigation may occur, but do not think that this suddenly privies you to all information associated with any decision. I realize that the environment for our community is a little more open than such organizations as SOE Itself, with more direct involvement in the community by the developers, but there are certain ways things need to be handled, and they wont always be agreed on by everyone, but thats how it is in any scenario. Many of us, including myself, do not play on the server. That means we spend all of our time working to better the server, and handling the issues that arise. We make decisions based on our best judgement, with no favoritism for any play character connections, so you will have to trust in our opinions for the health of the server.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled, un GM-related, flaming and asshatery.

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If you're dumb enough to believe everything you hear, by all means, leave the server with whatever conclusion you managed to reach. Please.