CSR Medris is a fool and a loose cannon

[asp69]

Just wanted to pop in and say goodbye and a give my reason for leaving. CSR Medris gave me a week suspension for defending myself against a gang of bullying chars in CB. I was in the throne room minding my own business pulling mobs. A group piles in and pulls a ton of mobs on me forcing me out of TR. I zone and return to find them in TR. So I returned the favor. This goes back and forth a few times then said group petitions on me for forcing them out by doing the same thing they did to me in the first place. I was honest with CSR Medris about the entire thing and the fool still gives me a seven day suspension. If Medris is representative of the type of individual they are making CSR guides these days you can have this server and everything that goes with it. I want nothing to do with the mob rules mentality of uninformed and foolish CSR's who make hasty judgement calls based on hearsay. Goodbye and farewell. Good luck with this snowflake millennial utopia and every poopsock CSR like Medris that goes with it.

[Evia]

Was he fair and suspended the other group for a week too? If so Id say its pretty fair. Otherwise I can understand why you'd be annoyed.

[Wallicker]

You sir need an appropriate elf lawyer! As I will be running for EQ DA 2020, I can take on this case for a nominal fee! Were you wearing your elf mandated body cam? Also as your elf lawyer I highly recommend these disputes be handled discretely via the petition forum, especially when disputing a guide decision. This stuff has been overturned before, so there is hope that you may be back in CB killing Emperor Crush this weekend! PM for more info.
#WallickerEQ-DA-2020

[DMN]

Just wanted to pop in and say goodbye and a give my reason for leaving. CSR Medris gave me a week suspension for defending myself against a gang of bullying chars in CB. I was in the throne room minding my own business pulling mobs. A group piles in and pulls a ton of mobs on me forcing me out of TR. I zone and return to find them in TR. So I returned the favor. This goes back and forth a few times then said group petitions on me for forcing them out by doing the same thing they did to me in the first place. I was honest with CSR Medris about the entire thing and the fool still gives me a seven day suspension. If Medris is representative of the type of individual they are making CSR guides these days you can have this server and everything that goes with it. I want nothing to do with the mob rules mentality of uninformed and foolish CSR's who make hasty judgement calls based on hearsay. Goodbye and farewell. Good luck with this snowflake millennial utopia and every poopsock CSR like Medris that goes with it.

I don't understand. Unless the group died you shouldn't be getting their aggro. Orcs aren't undead or similarly coded mobs.

[Convict]

I don't understand. Unless the group died you shouldn't be getting their aggro. Orcs aren't undead or similarly coded mobs.

social aggro.. if he was fighting an orc and they pulled a bunch in and they only had initial body aggro on the train the orcs will turn and fuck him up instead if they pull the mobs right over him

[loramin]

So, you broke the rules, got punished, and ... that's a bad thing?

I mean the other group might have been at fault too, but please tell me your mother taught you "two wrongs don't make a right"?

[k9quaint]

I was not in Crushbone. I did not get a weeks suspension. I am not quitting.
Just wanted to make that all clear.

[Domisk]

Emp crush throne war trains? Never thought I would see the day. Classic!

[DMN]

social aggro.. if he was fighting an orc and they pulled a bunch in and they only had initial body aggro on the train the orcs will turn and fuck him up instead if they pull the mobs right over him

Nah social aggro nor proximity aggro would have put him to the top of the aggro list.

[Llandris]

<snowflake millennial utopia> is now live, pst for invites

[Hibbs]

Only option I see here is a throne room rotation...

Real talk taking your own "revenge" into your own hands is where you blew it... sorry.

[aaezil]

ROUND UP EVERY MOB AND BRING THEM TO TR UNTIL THEY /Q

[shuklak]

Honestly crushbone mobs, and certainly the Throne room, should all be perma rooted.

[Jimjam]

I think we need to add pathing flurry goblins.

[YendorLootmonkey]

This is good practice for Green, except instead of the TR camp you will be talking about "the single orc oracle that spawns behind the table in TR" camp.

[Champion_Standing]

The staff should let these train offs continue until one party taps out and then ban the losers for a month.

[Primordial Ooze]

So when you were trained you decided to "return the favor." Instead of, say, letting a GM know what was going on and letting it fucking go because it's just a snowflake millenial utopia anyway so why is it worth the butthurt?

Yeah, that'll get you banned. Glad you're such a dysfunctional player that you only made it to CB lvl before you took your ball and went home.

[aaezil]

How dare the gms suspend you for training!

[Zoggren]

I think this is real life picture of dude..

[Ruhtar]

Nah social aggro nor proximity aggro would have put him to the top of the aggro list.

Never done any killing in CB I take it? If only prox was gained or even a hit or two, there's a solid chance they'll social if others are being attacked. Which is why when I do big pulls on a bard, I play a slow song on everything, otherwise they'll break off to murder other groups (if passed by).

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Thank you medris!

[Cecily]

“The Fool is numbered 0 – the number of unlimited potential – and so does not have a specific place in the sequence of the Tarot cards. The Fool can be placed either at the beginning of the Major Arcana or at the end. The Major Arcana is often considered the Fool’s journey through life and as such, he is ever present and therefore needs no number.
On the Fool Tarot card, a young man stands on the edge of a cliff, without a care in the world, as he sets out on a new adventure. He is gazing upwards toward the sky (and the Universe) and is seemingly unaware that he is about to skip off a precipice into the unknown. Over his shoulder rests a modest knapsack containing everything he needs – which isn’t much (let’s say he’s a minimalist). The white rose in his left hand represents his purity and innocence. And at his feet is a small white dog, representing loyalty and protection, that encourages him to charge forward and learn the lessons he came to learn. The mountains behind the Fool symbolise the challenges yet to come. They are forever present, but the Fool doesn’t care about them right now; he’s more focused on starting his expedition.”

[loramin]

This needs to be a meme. Every time anyone blames the staff for anything I vote that "CSR Medris" should take the fall ;)

[Jimjam]

GM Morales is dead. Long live GM Medris!

[Jimjam]

This needs to be a meme. Every time anyone blames the staff for anything I vote that "CSR Medris" should take the fall ;)

https://i.imgur.com/jekCrNl.png

[Uberom]

I do see a pattern, dating back to like 2011, where the person who gets punished for some tit-for-tat offense, is usually the party that has less people. So if its 1 person's word against a whole group, its 99% chance the one person gets suspended and the other group gets off freely. I have noticed this over the years, time after time. I had a situation years ago on this server where me and a friend literally had our camp raided by a full group, the guide showed up, our word against theirs, and he tells me to "roll for the camp". I challenge anyone here, to go steal a full group's camp by yourself and see what happens.

[Uberom]

So I definitely see how you could be pissed. Its like in the NBA when one player fouls another, the other guy swings back, and he gets called for the tech while the first guy walks away smirking. That being said, accidents do happen, and their train onto you was probably not intentional. You should have tried to work it out and get your camp back legitly. If they refuse, petition them. If guides tell you to kick rocks, then it might be worth the suspension to do the right thing and train them back.

[fastboy21]

Just wanted to pop in and say goodbye and a give my reason for leaving. CSR Medris gave me a week suspension for defending myself against a gang of bullying chars in CB. I was in the throne room minding my own business pulling mobs. A group piles in and pulls a ton of mobs on me forcing me out of TR. I zone and return to find them in TR. So I returned the favor. This goes back and forth a few times then said group petitions on me for forcing them out by doing the same thing they did to me in the first place. I was honest with CSR Medris about the entire thing and the fool still gives me a seven day suspension. If Medris is representative of the type of individual they are making CSR guides these days you can have this server and everything that goes with it. I want nothing to do with the mob rules mentality of uninformed and foolish CSR's who make hasty judgement calls based on hearsay. Goodbye and farewell. Good luck with this snowflake millennial utopia and every poopsock CSR like Medris that goes with it.

It sounds like the server is losing a real winner here.

Peace out, cub scout.

[Kesselring]

I do see a pattern, dating back to like 2011, where the person who gets punished for some tit-for-tat offense, is usually the party that has less people. So if its 1 person's word against a whole group, its 99% chance the one person gets suspended and the other group gets off freely. I have noticed this over the years, time after time. I had a situation years ago on this server where me and a friend literally had our camp raided by a full group, the guide showed up, our word against theirs, and he tells me to "roll for the camp". I challenge anyone here, to go steal a full group's camp by yourself and see what happens.

This may be the case, but if you supplied a recording with proof (screenshots arent exactly proof unless its someone agreeing to pay you something then in turn scamming you) you are 99 times out of 100 going to get a justified suspension in your favor if that proof is indeed implicating you as a victim. Sounds lawyerquest as fuck but thats just how it is, dont wanna get fucked with? Be ready to record. Its 2019 idk how people arent rdy to record these situatuons with playback buffers and stuff like that.

[Haynar]

Feel the love.

Feel the love.

[Madbad]

All this over Crushbone Throne room?

Buckle up motherfucker.

[Hibbs]

All this over Crushbone Throne room?

Buckle up motherfucker.

Whoa whoa dont be hating on the throne room. Its serious bizniz

[Jaxon]

Sorry you lost the game of thrones.

[maskedmelon]

<snowflake millennial utopia> is now live, pst for invites

I'd liek a invite please.


also, loramin' post is spot on. If someone trains you, that doesn't make it okay to train them. Just like with pulling: if someone pulls your mob, that doesn't mean it is okay to KS it. The rules are the rules, OP. sorry you got b&.

[shuklak]

Every player should be able to purchase their own instanced zone for the price of level×2.

[Swish2]

https://i.imgur.com/jekCrNl.png

Curious post count on that :p

[maskedmelon]

The staff should let these train offs continue until one party taps out and then ban the losers for a month.

lotta good content from this guy over the years. admire the approach and consistency pal 👍

[jacobar]

You get fraps or obs? In the end its thier word against yours and sounds like they petitiined first. i have noticed over time that those who petition first often times get the benifit of the doubt, be it right or wrong or wether or not they were the agressor to begin with, if you yourself do not have any proof of the incedent then what were you expecting. plus a word of the wise not saying I am wise, juat this is what wise people say sometimes, "Two wrongs dont make a right." also. a week is pretty steep, is there more to this story? maybe you said some things that possibly were inapropriate that could have caused the guide to frown?

[Valakut]

if you don't staff bash in your RNF post then you aren't seriously quitting

+1 for OP being a real quitter

[Danth]

You get fraps or obs?

Any policy which expects the player to record his video game sessions at all times is completely insane. In no world is that expectation reasonable or normal.


Danth

[Tethler]

Any policy which expects the player to record his video game sessions at all times is completely insane. In no world is that expectation reasonable or normal.



Agree. I refuse to install it. Then again, I'm not a tool in-game that requires constant GM intervention due to disagreements. I think in my years on P99, I've petitioned GMs one time, and that was because I noticed some dude in a death loop.

[JamesMack]

“The Fool is numbered 0 – the number of unlimited potential – and so does not have a specific place in the sequence of the Tarot cards. The Fool can be placed either at the beginning of the Major Arcana or at the end. The Major Arcana is often considered the Fool’s journey through life and as such, he is ever present and therefore needs no number. Also, I wrote this post with help of this website https://edubirdie.com/blog/how-to-write-informative-essay-outline. It's sometimes hard for me to write this sort of things.
On the Fool Tarot card, a young man stands on the edge of a cliff, without a care in the world, as he sets out on a new adventure. He is gazing upwards toward the sky (and the Universe) and is seemingly unaware that he is about to skip off a precipice into the unknown. Over his shoulder rests a modest knapsack containing everything he needs – which isn’t much (let’s say he’s a minimalist). The white rose in his left hand represents his purity and innocence. And at his feet is a small white dog, representing loyalty and protection, that encourages him to charge forward and learn the lessons he came to learn. The mountains behind the Fool symbolise the challenges yet to come. They are forever present, but the Fool doesn’t care about them right now; he’s more focused on starting his expedition.”

Well. Thanks. I couldn't find any info about this before I saw your post

[applesauce25r624]

Juntsie would have been able to mediate this properly

[Menden]

Any policy which expects the player to record his video game sessions at all times is completely insane. In no world is that expectation reasonable or normal.


Danth

It is sad that it comes down to that sometimes. Some issues are hard to prove without it. We deal with too much he-said she-said. It gets tiring.

[Not_Mikeo]

It is sad that it comes down to that sometimes. Some issues are hard to prove without it. We deal with too much he-said she-said. It gets tiring.

Just tell both parties to get fucked.

[Menden]

Just tell both parties to get fucked.

Sometimes that's the only option. Every situation is different.

[NegaStoat]

OBS is super simple to install and honestly, I recommend that a player that plays on private server EMUs of any sort do so. It's like this. Private server EMUs of all sorts have sharply limited resouces when it comes to GM staff and the workload they have to go through. Been there, done that on a WoW private server.

When you're playing on these projects, you really do need to go the extra mile in being ready to record not in the spirit of being a snitch or playing virtual elf sim police, but doing so as a service to the staff. How much time is going to be saved for the staff member looking at your petition if you include a hosted video link to go with your side of the story?

Retail companies have the resources to do a lot more on their end, it's true. Private EMU's, not so much.

[Troxx]

I feel sorry for the volunteer GMs of this server.

From me to all of you (GMs):

Thank you for your volunteer efforts to babysit we the collective man-children.

[PieOats]

I feel sorry for the volunteer GMs of this server.

From me to all of you (GMs):

Thank you for your volunteer efforts to babysit we the collective man-children.

I share this sentiment and wood also like to thank the extraordinary powers that be here for putting up with all this and for their staunch commitment to JUSTICE. I have learned many valuabble things from this place.

1. 20yo elf sims are not (20yo elf)(sims), but rather (20yo)(elf sims). Word association matters.
2. Don't be a moran. People will notice.
3. What a terminal sever is.

[commongood]

Throne room trains in CB... The true game of thrones

[kaizersoze]

I feel sorry for the volunteer GMs of this server.

From me to all of you (GMs):

Thank you for your volunteer efforts to babysit we the collective man-children.

[Worry]

I feel sorry for the volunteer GMs of this server.

From me to all of you (GMs):

Thank you for your volunteer efforts to babysit we the collective man-children.

[jacobar]

Any policy which expects the player to record his video game sessions at all times is completely insane. In no world is that expectation reasonable or normal.


Danth

"HaViN PrOoF NoT ReSoNaBLe ."

K buddy. Any game that lets you play for free who has a staff that works for free and that put up with a bunch of adult chilldren, who have to handle probably 100's of petitions if not 1000 a week. seems like having proof would be pretty reasonable thing to ask, other wise you're taking extra time that could be better used then getting upset over crushbone and doing the exact same thing to the people that they did to you to cause you to get upset in the first place. :eek:

[jacobar]

OBS is super simple to install and honestly, I recommend that a player that plays on private server EMUs of any sort do so. It's like this. Private server EMUs of all sorts have sharply limited resouces when it comes to GM staff and the workload they have to go through. Been there, done that on a WoW private server.

When you're playing on these projects, you really do need to go the extra mile in being ready to record not in the spirit of being a snitch or playing virtual elf sim police, but doing so as a service to the staff. How much time is going to be saved for the staff member looking at your petition if you include a hosted video link to go with your side of the story?

Retail companies have the resources to do a lot more on their end, it's true. Private EMU's, not so much.

Aye, and you can have it set to a hot key to start at the press of a button so you dont have to be constantly recording. see something funny. like a group coming into your space unanounced. hit record. they leave no incident ? stop the recording, delet video at a later convienince.

[PieOats]

"HaViN PrOoF NoT ReSoNaBLe ."

K buddy. Any game that lets you play for free who has a staff that works for free and that put up with a bunch of adult chilldren, who have to handle probably 100's of petitions if not 1000 a week. seems like having proof would be pretty reasonable thing to ask, other wise you're taking extra time that could be better used then getting upset over crushbone and doing the exact same thing to the people that they did to you to cause you to get upset in the first place. :eek:

I think perhaps, Jacobar, the greater point in Danth's post is that the act of dash-camming your 20yo elfplay sessions out of necessity is bizarre in itself and that it speaks very poorly of the environmental conditions necessitating it. In a free-elf society, no elf should have to worry about another extorting green Dragon scales from him, or live in fear mean words. The need to chronicle his time ramp staring in Mistmoore while LFG, or selling High Quality Hides in East Commknkoands is what is unreasonable.

[jacobar]

I think perhaps, Jacobar, the greater point in Danth's post is that the act of dash-camming your 20yo elfplay sessions out of necessity is bizarre in itself and that it speaks very poorly of the environmental conditions necessitating it. In a free-elf society, no elf should have to worry about another extorting green Dragon scales from him, or live in fear mean words. The need to chronicle his time ramp staring in Mistmoore while LFG, or selling High Quality Hides in East Commknkoands is what is unreasonable.

In real life you encounter a magnitude of varying individuals. Some of those individuals turn out to be baddies, some of those baddies play eq. As such, like in real life, because remember after all that we are real people that are playing this, some of us at least, making accusations is often best when you can back it up. Otherwise those acusations are called "baseless" . The creator of this thread doesnt "have to" obs his encounters, he doesnt "have to" post in RNF, and last but not least he didnt "have to" train the people who "trained" him. Buuuuuuut he did do two of those three things, and so, here we are. The original poster admited in plain text that he trained the other group. maybe they recorded him doing it. He could have called the GMs, he decided to take matters into his own hands, sometimes that can have its consequences. What proof does he or anyone here have that the other group actually did anything wrong, or even existed for that matter? The point I was trying to make is, regardless of if we are playing a twenty year old elf sim, or driving down the road, sometimes it pays to have a dash cam when youre the one in the driver seat and stuff gets wrecked. all in all this could be an elaborite hoax. Too, Its all part of the immersion, check out your loading screen sometime if you still play and not just post here "thousands of trains served" people have been training since 1999 and here we are in 2019 acting shocked the same people that played then are doing the same stuff now ha ha

[Jimjam]

I don't know man. I don't wear a body cam IRL. Wearing one in EQ would basically be admitting that I take EQ more seriously than IRLand.

[loramin]

I don't know man. I don't wear a body cam IRL. Wearing one in EQ would basically be admitting that I take EQ more seriously than IRLand.

This. I use OBS to record my classes, so I even have the software all ready to go ... and I still never use it when playing EQ.

If I have to chose between letting someone KS me every once in awhile because I couldn't prove that it as a KS (without fraps) ... vs. having to keep OBS running and ready to go every time I play EQ ... I'll just lose the stupid mob every once in awhile. LIfe goes on.

[kotton05]

You lost in elf court. I suggest you make another post and use more staff names. You are about to ascend.

[shuklak]

Training back in 99 was pure and unadulterated.

Today, it is different... like a watered down, flat can of Surge perhaps.

[Bardp1999]

I bought some Surge off Amazon for a ridiculous price a few years ago. It doesn't hold up to my memories.

[NegaStoat]

Mexican Coke made with pure cane sugar is the stuff.

[aaezil]

Legalize training 2019

[whitebandit]

Legalize training 2019

Training was classic AF. GMs didnt give a shit back in the good ol days.

Make Norrath Great Again!

[jacobar]

This. I use OBS to record my classes, so I even have the software all ready to go ... and I still never use it when playing EQ.

If I have to chose between letting someone KS me every once in awhile because I couldn't prove that it as a KS (without fraps) ... vs. having to keep OBS running and ready to go every time I play EQ ... I'll just lose the stupid mob every once in awhile. LIfe goes on.

You also dont KS them back and run to RNF crying about it blaming everyone but yourself when you get a 5day holiday either. Also the original post was about training/griefing. apples to oranges. Kep ur hangs off my orcs ya filthy bearhead

[jacobar]

I don't know man. I don't wear a body cam IRL. Wearing one in EQ would basically be admitting that I take EQ more seriously than IRLand.

Wearing a body cam is a bit more of a stretch than comparing it to a dash cam in a car, I would say that a much bigger portion of the population has a dash cam for insurance purposes.

"Insurance is a means of protection from financial loss. It is also a form of risk management"

Never hurts to have a bit of insurance when you're playing fast and loose in Clan Crushbone.

[JDFriend99]

<snowflake millennial utopia> is now live, pst for invites

Make me an officer in this community so I may slaughter at will please and thank you Llandris.

Also flag me pop god mode.. OK thanks.

[JDFriend99]

This is good practice for Green, except instead of the TR camp you will be talking about "the single orc oracle that spawns behind the table in TR" camp.

I commend you for wanting people to be good. Some are incurable as 19 yrs is plenty of practice time and in real life they'd have been shot or fired by now.

Green is gonna be a wreck the first yr. Calling it now. People that pull stupid selfish shit or cheat etc will try every second no one is around.

I think I'll hang out here for ur and see what's left after. Enjoy your mana stones.