*ATTENTION* PVP PPL

[Shannacore]

*AHEM*

I know some of you P99 Reddies have shown interest in recruiting Abacab for your basketball team. I feel I should inform you that the man can't even PvP in WoW. I play a healing priest, he plays a DPS warrior. In a duel, the winner should be obvious. 'CEPT NOT 'CAUSE I ABSOLUTELY KICKED HIS ASS. So reconsider. Do you really want someone shootin' hoops for you that can't even take down a Tralina?




No I'm not resizing this

http://i52.tinypic.com/5uoinp.jpg
tl;dr: Abacab is bad at pvp, I am the best.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Skanklina has 3.9k resilience could only crit her for 13k after 38k was absorbed... Was a sad day for this hero.

Tralina refuses to fight me without vicious gladiator in some vanilla style combat

[Bruno]

Clicking is bad.

[Taslion]

Clicking is bad.

I refuse to believe someone with 3.9k resil is a clicker.

Like, its not possible and if it is I don't want to know. DON'T WANT TO KNOW

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

I refuse to believe someone with 3.9k resil is a clicker.

Like, its not possible and if it is I don't want to know. DON'T WANT TO KNOW

You can get 4k resilience easily these days...

Run BH get free 372 viscous armor from a PvE encounter

Join a 2's team get 10k conquest points from slaughtering the 500-1500's bracket, and buy a full set of epic pvp gear... at that point you either gem stamina or resilience and you therefore have 4k resil and like 144k HP

So yes, you can get top level PvP gear by clicking

[Knuckle]

id like to extend an offer to tralina to join the wnba

[Taslion]

I thought 3.5k resil was from t1 pvp epic set, but 4k was from t2, which is only acquired after 2200 rating (not that you couldn't pay a good price in gold to cheese that).

[Rushmore]

id like to extend an offer to tralina to join the wnba

Umm... *ahem* Yes. Like no WOW once Rock the Red Releases.

[Bruno]

Plenty of people fly under the radar. Gear doesn't mean shit though. Top 5 in your battle group and I might say I refuse to believe they click.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Plenty of people fly under the radar. Gear doesn't mean shit though. Top 5 in your battle group and I might say I refuse to believe they click.

gear means a lot...

I could have the exact same skills as a top 5 PvPer, but if I'm rolling in with 372 heroic raid gear (ashkandi, T11.5 etc) I'll get rolled by my PvP equivalents simply because PvP gear reduces a shit ton of damage, while PvE gear is designed to make you deal out more damage.

The issue is they don't overlap, that fact Tralina can turn my 51k hits into mere 11k scratches (when she can heal for 16k) puts me at a large disadvantage. You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

But then again my major complaint about WoW PvP is it's reactionary, it's all about counters and CC, so certain specs have clear distinct advantages by having more survivability and crowd control techniques (frost mages, sub rogues, restro druids, and disc priests) making them near impossible to kill in a 1v1 situation unless major mistakes are made.

[Constellations]

I thought 3.5k resil was from t1 pvp epic set, but 4k was from t2, which is only acquired after 2200 rating (not that you couldn't pay a good price in gold to cheese that).

You do realize the t2 vicious doesn't actually have any stat upgrades(not including the weapons) and is just a color change right? Also there has been multiple glads that have been clickers...

[Bruno]

gear means a lot...

I could have the exact same skills as a top 5 PvPer, but if I'm rolling in with 372 heroic raid gear (ashkandi, T11.5 etc) I'll get rolled by my PvP equivalents simply because PvP gear reduces a shit ton of damage, while PvE gear is designed to make you deal out more damage.

The issue is they don't overlap, that fact Tralina can turn my 51k hits into mere 11k scratches (when she can heal for 16k) puts me at a large disadvantage. You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

But then again my major complaint about WoW PvP is it's reactionary, it's all about counters and CC, so certain specs have clear distinct advantages by having more survivability and crowd control techniques (frost mages, sub rogues, restro druids, and disc priests) making them near impossible to kill in a 1v1 situation unless major mistakes are made.

I was merely referring to Taslion's post about how surprised he was that she could click with that much resilience. There are plenty of baddies with the best gear.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

I was merely referring to Taslion's post about how surprised he was that she could click with that much resilience. There are plenty of baddies with the best gear.

I preferred Vanilla world PvP, where if you wanted to have the edge in PvP you had to work for it, either by sucking up with 39 other retards in week long Naxx raids, or kicking so much ass you could buy HWL's

Ever since arena was put into place the effort to be the best simply derives off point farming to buy gear that is on par with raid level tier, which gives a huge survivability increase therefore substituting skill for min-maxing and specific cookie cutter spec choices

[Bruno]

The only true fun I had in WoW pvp was during Azuregos, Lord Kazzak, and the four dragons Lethon, Emeriss, Taerar and Ysondre. Anything after was just whatever.

[Constellations]

ITT: Abacab getting dunked on with TF

http://i55.tinypic.com/2cdvqso.jpg

[Shannacore]

Fuck off, whoever changed the title of this.

[Knuckle]

just be warned if u choose to play basketball we will degrade you sexually ask any previous basketball officer involved with females. we got kobes and iversons all over the place

[Misto]

Hullo. I lik mudkipz.

[Kraftwerk]

You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.




One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

[Constellations]

One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

Got raped by dbl shadow the other day, Literally feared the entire match, couldnt do shit.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

Blood DK is ridiculously overpowered, they can tank any encounter in BWD/BoT for a good 45 seconds without heals, I've known a blood who was able to solo tank chimaron cause his self healing kept him above 10k at all time

[M.Bison]

resilience ruined pvp in that game imo. vanilla wow was the height of pvp

[Macken]

You got beat by a girl?

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

You got beat by a girl?

Was a hard fight bro, a lot of running and spamming heals was involved and she made fun of my pixels because all I do is raid and log out :mad:

She was like

"LOL NO RESILIENCE GG"

[Bombfist]

*AHEM*
I play a healing priest, he plays a DPS warrior. In a duel, the winner should be obvious.

http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/my-hair-is-a-bird-argument-invalid.jpg

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

*AHEM*

I know some of you P99 Reddies have shown interest in recruiting Abacab for your basketball team. I feel I should inform you that the man can't even PvP in WoW. I play a healing priest, he plays a DPS warrior. In a duel, the winner should be obvious. 'CEPT NOT 'CAUSE I ABSOLUTELY KICKED HIS ASS. So reconsider. Do you really want someone shootin' hoops for you that can't even take down a Tralina?


Big Abacab bout to do a rundown on why it's hard to kill you in a 1v1 situation with WoW's broken stat system...

You have the following:

8088 armor or 23.68% damage reduction
3635 resilience or 38.15% reduction to crit and damage
122,881 HP -> 145k with fort buff
2/2 in focused will adding up to 20% damage reduction for 8 sec
PWB which adds 30% damage reduction 2 min CD
Pain suppression which adds 40% damage reduction 3 min CD
Inspiration which reduces damage taken by 10%

Meaning at any given time in combat (CD's aside) just from you spam healing you received a total of 91.38% damage reduction (without CD's) from flash of light alone which becomes uninterruptable when shielded.

Add this into a power word which heals 20% of absorption out of a 60k shield which is a 12k heal total, and you're spamming heals that go as high as 22k.

To simply win this fight, you'd just need to remain shielded and casting mana-efficient heals as your weak dots wear me down slowly (thus was why it was a long duel)

You can claim skill all you want big Tralina, but when you have:

20k heals
91% innate damage reduction with procs about 64% without
Mobility
Un-interuptable casts
Limitless mana pool


It's very very hard to kill you when I'm only swinging for 6k a hit...

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

To put it simply the 64% reduction alone is enough to turn a 23k crit into a 8920 hit, or a mere 2k when you're at full FW/inspiration proc'd

[wehrmacht]

This PvP sounds terrible. What the hell is resilience? Why would damage reduction not be based off AC or armor type instead? Why would a healer have more damage reduction than a tank?

[Bombfist]

WoW pvp is in a horrible place right now, i logged on wow for 3 minutes after reading this thread, saw my character select screen and wanted to shoot myself in the dick.

http://www.vexthal.com/WoWScrnShot_040911_125153.jpg

I just PVE on that game now, pvp holds no consequence and bores the shit out of me, if i want to pvp i want somebody to have been camping an item for 4 hours, kill them and link the item drop.

[Bombfist]

I just PVE on that game now

well that's a lie actually, we did 12/12 then everyone quit.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

This PvP sounds terrible. What the hell is resilience? Why would damage reduction not be based off AC or armor type instead? Why would a healer have more damage reduction than a tank?

Resilience is a "damage resistant" statistic meant to be for all sources of incoming damage. It was adopted in the burning crusade because people in cloth armor cried about being two shot by melee at close range (duh, winning?)

It works in two ways

It reduces damage from melee, spells, DoTs, and pets by a certain degree

It also reduces the chance to be critically hit by drastically reducing the damage your critical hit does making it more along the lines of a normal attack.

In a sense:

1% Resilience will:

* Reduce damage from all crits by 2.2%
* Reduce all player-caused damage by an additional 2%
* Reduce mana drained by 2.2%


It's especially overpowered because it can stack with AC, resistances, and damage reduction talents and skills, not to mention there are dodge, parry, and block mechanics in place that always have an innate 7.5% and can be stack to be upwards of 28% to go along with the previous resilience.

[Phallax]

L2PvP Abacab, theres not reason a Disc Priest should be able to kill you....Sure you wont be able to kill them but if you were half way talented on how to play your class youd also never die.

I play WoW FOR its pvp. Sure theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.

I dunno WTF youre doing wrong do only be doing 10k crits with PvE gear lol. Abuse CS before it gets nerfed to shit by half in PvP.

The arguement PvE vs PvP. WoW PvE is NOT fun at all anymore, its watered down so much now its pathetic.

Ill agree with you about one thing Vanilla is where it was at, both PvE and PvP.

[Phallax]

oh and its not easy to get 4k res, only hybrids stacking 2x 2 piece bonus can reach it, or gemming the fuck outta your gear, which not matching sockets is mostly a no no.

[KilyenaMage]

LOL This is good stuff here.

Hey Tralina, can you shut Naez up next by slaying him in player versus player combat please.

[Kraftwerk]

Blood DK is ridiculously overpowered, they can tank any encounter in BWD/BoT for a good 45 seconds without heals, I've known a blood who was able to solo tank chimaron cause his self healing kept him above 10k at all time

Yea, I played a Blood DK through WOTLK and into early Cata. The massive amount of self-healing and magic dmg reduction was a huge boon in PVE, made things lot easier for my 10man. But then I got bored with MTing, went Mage so I could pew pew anonymously from the crowd, then got bored with Mage and find it a chore logging in for raids =/

[Hasbinbad]

This whole situation makes a lot more sense as we learn that the red team is actually a bunch of Blizzard fan boys..

...

..theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.
You're still you.

[Smedy]

luls wtf is this, my own basketball mates have 10 lvl 85 in wow, what a sad day.

i am happy to say i have 1 lvl 60 on wow that has not logged in since i quit back in summer of 2005, fuck that game pals, the real deal is in eq

also tralina likes to be degraded, she welcome on the box.

[Bombfist]

I tripped and i fell, and then those chars appeared, or something.

[Mardur]

I love PvP, and I couldn't even play WoW PVP past a few battlegrounds. Raided casually in TBC for 2-3 months, got most of my BISs and quit.

EQ PvP is much more sophisticated, mostly just because it's EQ.

[Misto]

I suggest you all go outside.

[Phallax]

This whole situation makes a lot more sense as we learn that the red team is actually a bunch of Blizzard fan boys..

...


You're still you.

And youll always be you. Dont throw a bitch fit because I dissed on a PvP system that isnt balanced in the least bit...Not even close.

[Salty]

Hasbinbad likes to bash WoW and looks for any reason to do so.

[Littlegyno]

Bombfist is now not a redpal of mine. You literally have like 10 lvl's 80's.

Get the fuck out bro.

[naez]

I've played disc priest with survival hunter and any comp with arms warrior would destroy.

[Phallax]

I've played disc priest with survival hunter and any comp with arms warrior would destroy.

I play arms with a RL friend playing disc. Basically any dbl dps with a rogue or dk/war with druid/shaman is an extreme pain.

Arms warriors are heavily OP atm tho.

[naez]

I hate disc in twos, because 9 times out of 10 you'll get targeted. It's easier to heal through CC chains than when you get trained.

[Bombfist]

Bombfist is now not a redpal of mine. You literally have like 10 lvl's 80's.

Get the fuck out bro.

I'LL REDEEM ON REDBOX, YOU'LL SEE.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

L2PvP Abacab, theres not reason a Disc Priest should be able to kill you....Sure you wont be able to kill them but if you were half way talented on how to play your class youd also never die.

I play WoW FOR its pvp. Sure theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.

I dunno WTF youre doing wrong do only be doing 10k crits with PvE gear lol. Abuse CS before it gets nerfed to shit by half in PvP.

The arguement PvE vs PvP. WoW PvE is NOT fun at all anymore, its watered down so much now its pathetic.

Ill agree with you about one thing Vanilla is where it was at, both PvE and PvP.

I'll go by this in order

The first point is I'm entirely PvE spec'd I don't have survivability or proper slows and my whole gimmick revolves around a 4 min CD, if you out run that during it's 12 second phase I'm left without burst and an enrage thus regulated to pretty much weak white attacks and blood thirst.

The second point is I could hit her with CS and remove her 23% armor reduction but that doesn't remove resilience, that doesn't focused will, that doesn't remove pain suppression etc... So I'm taking 23% reduction off 91% total without CD's she will still have near 70% damage reduction, and I'm not an arms warrior I can chain throwdown and use deadly calm and superior pressure, I'm fury only thing I can do is run around smashing shit.

Basically 12 seconds out of every 4 minutes I'm an unstoppable force barring that they just stand still and take a BT=> RB rotation, if they LoS, CC, disarm, shiv my enrage etc. I'm worthless at that point because I can't cleave through your resilience without recklessness up. The fact that people in resilience can take 26k DPS and turn it to 3k is a testament of how ridiculously OP resilience is

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

I play arms with a RL friend playing disc. Basically any dbl dps with a rogue or dk/war with druid/shaman is an extreme pain.

Arms warriors are heavily OP atm tho.

Arms has 4x the CS upkeep as fury, in addition to higher mobility and snares. Improved hamstring, bladestorm, deadly calm, throwdown, piercing howl, LTTS etc. all add into why arms is the premier choice past the 1800 bracket because fury only excels at burst tactics.

and any double DPS will be a pain if the DPS are those combs you listed above, frost/blood DK's, sub rogues, arms warriors, druids and the like have so much utility built into them that you're never going to have a moment where you're not CC'd or snared...

While shit like Fury and Combat rogue rely on the whole basis of "if I can't kill you in 10 seconds, this is going to be a 45 minute fight"

[Misto]

nerd fest

[Phallax]

I'll go by this in order

The first point is I'm entirely PvE spec'd I don't have survivability or proper slows and my whole gimmick revolves around a 4 min CD, if you out run that during it's 12 second phase I'm left without burst and an enrage thus regulated to pretty much weak white attacks and blood thirst.

The second point is I could hit her with CS and remove her 23% armor reduction but that doesn't remove resilience, that doesn't focused will, that doesn't remove pain suppression etc... So I'm taking 23% reduction off 91% total without CD's she will still have near 70% damage reduction, and I'm not an arms warrior I can chain throwdown and use deadly calm and superior pressure, I'm fury only thing I can do is run around smashing shit.

Basically 12 seconds out of every 4 minutes I'm an unstoppable force barring that they just stand still and take a BT=> RB rotation, if they LoS, CC, disarm, shiv my enrage etc. I'm worthless at that point because I can't cleave through your resilience without recklessness up. The fact that people in resilience can take 26k DPS and turn it to 3k is a testament of how ridiculously OP resilience is

So both of your specs are for PvE? Im guess Fury / Prot?

Altho most of your arguement is valid. Fury still has better survivability than Arms with BT spam coupled with Enraged Regen, you should never die to any healing spec.

The only DPS that should ever die to a healing spec is a hunter and thats just because they have 0 self healing abilities.

Ive also seen a Fury war in all 372 PvE gear just straight DEMOLISH people in PvP, but im going to consider he had a PvP spec which a few talents traded for another can make a big deal I guess.

My arguement against you was YOU shouldnt have died to a disc priest. The fight should have never ended until someone fled.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

So both of your specs are for PvE? Im guess Fury / Prot?

Altho most of your arguement is valid. Fury still has better survivability than Arms with BT spam coupled with Enraged Regen, you should never die to any healing spec.

The only DPS that should ever die to a healing spec is a hunter and thats just because they have 0 self healing abilities.

Ive also seen a Fury war in all 372 PvE gear just straight DEMOLISH people in PvP, but im going to consider he had a PvP spec which a few talents traded for another can make a big deal I guess.

My arguement against you was YOU shouldnt have died to a disc priest. The fight should have never ended until someone fled.

I've rolled many holy priests in my day, mostly cause they have to stand still, but disc has much better movement and ways to negate my burst, I even have an easier time defeating shadow than I do disc, but I mostly attribute that to being out maneuvered since shadowpriests pretty much try to mind flay and that just opens up a pummel and subsequent burst.

Restro druids/shamans and disc priests have always given me trouble, I can take off 80% of their HP and boom they're at full again through instants and negation techniques, or they spam travel form/GW and power word to remove my hamstring, so it's 10x harder for me to dispatch a target that can consistently stay out of my melee range and continually dot me up

[abegedun]

tralina is fat

[Hasbinbad]

http://nola.humidbeings.com/_user/images/larges/1385fdd0e0dcde8b419758d81f614431.jpg

[Darian]

Yall are ruining my eq immersion

[Juda]

135k hp wow this game is fuckin gay

[Envious]

God that skank is a complete attention whore.

And maybe a 3/10, would fuck her if she was swinging from my dick and begging for it, but would never put any effort into it.

[Envious]

Oh, and grats on winning a duel...

Lols.

[Oogmog]

Resilience is a "damage resistant" statistic meant to be for all sources of incoming damage. It was adopted in the burning crusade because people in cloth armor cried about being two shot by melee at close range (duh, winning?)

It works in two ways

It reduces damage from melee, spells, DoTs, and pets by a certain degree

It also reduces the chance to be critically hit by drastically reducing the damage your critical hit does making it more along the lines of a normal attack.

In a sense:

1% Resilience will:

* Reduce damage from all crits by 2.2%
* Reduce all player-caused damage by an additional 2%
* Reduce mana drained by 2.2%


It's especially overpowered because it can stack with AC, resistances, and damage reduction talents and skills, not to mention there are dodge, parry, and block mechanics in place that always have an innate 7.5% and can be stack to be upwards of 28% to go along with the previous resilience.

Resil hasn't reduced crit in quite some time.

[Kraz]

Bombfist I have to agree man, what were you thinking of playing that game that long....

[Oogmog]

So both of your specs are for PvE? Im guess Fury / Prot?

Altho most of your arguement is valid. Fury still has better survivability than Arms with BT spam coupled with Enraged Regen, you should never die to any healing spec.

The only DPS that should ever die to a healing spec is a hunter and thats just because they have 0 self healing abilities.

Ive also seen a Fury war in all 372 PvE gear just straight DEMOLISH people in PvP, but im going to consider he had a PvP spec which a few talents traded for another can make a big deal I guess.

My arguement against you was YOU shouldnt have died to a disc priest. The fight should have never ended until someone fled.

This is not true. As a disc priest, it is very possible to kill a fury war. As arms, no way, but fury.. if you can survive through their burst when they pop CD's.. they are extremely easy to manage. The only heavy regen they will get is through enraged regen which is on a 3 min CD. Force that then shadowfiend+sw:p+devouring plague+holy fire>smite spam and it's good night for the fury.

[mimixownzall]

WoW pvp is in a horrible place right now, i logged on wow for 3 minutes after reading this thread, saw my character select screen and wanted to shoot myself in the dick.

http://www.vexthal.com/WoWScrnShot_040911_125153.jpg

Might as well... By the looks of your character list you aren't getting any use out of it anyways...

[Ennoia]

*AHEM*

I know some of you P99 Reddies have shown interest in recruiting Abacab for your basketball team. I feel I should inform you that the man can't even PvP in WoW. I play a healing priest, he plays a DPS warrior. In a duel, the winner should be obvious. 'CEPT NOT 'CAUSE I ABSOLUTELY KICKED HIS ASS. So reconsider. Do you really want someone shootin' hoops for you that can't even take down a Tralina?




No I'm not resizing this

http://i52.tinypic.com/5uoinp.jpg
tl;dr: Abacab is bad at pvp, I am the best.

1. Resize your fucking pictures
2. You're Alliance,therefore both of you are trash by default
3. If you're Disc then yes you are going to rape a Warrior, especially if he's Fury and you have better gear.

Now to read the rest of the thread!

[Ennoia]

You can get 4k resilience easily these days...

Run BH get free 372 viscous armor from a PvE encounter

Join a 2's team get 10k conquest points from slaughtering the 500-1500's bracket, and buy a full set of epic pvp gear... at that point you either gem stamina or resilience and you therefore have 4k resil and like 144k HP

So yes, you can get top level PvP gear by clicking

Gemming Stamina = fail. As a caster you gem Resil/Int after hitting spell pen softcap...all that extra HP isn't going to do dick if your spells aren't hitting for shit.

gear means a lot...

I could have the exact same skills as a top 5 PvPer, but if I'm rolling in with 372 heroic raid gear (ashkandi, T11.5 etc) I'll get rolled by my PvP equivalents simply because PvP gear reduces a shit ton of damage, while PvE gear is designed to make you deal out more damage.

The issue is they don't overlap, that fact Tralina can turn my 51k hits into mere 11k scratches (when she can heal for 16k) puts me at a large disadvantage. You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

But then again my major complaint about WoW PvP is it's reactionary, it's all about counters and CC, so certain specs have clear distinct advantages by having more survivability and crowd control techniques (frost mages, sub rogues, restro druids, and disc priests) making them near impossible to kill in a 1v1 situation unless major mistakes are made.

That's why there isn't a 1v1 Arena and there is no reward for dueling. Certain classes are made to be another class' direct counter.

I preferred Vanilla world PvP, where if you wanted to have the edge in PvP you had to work for it, either by sucking up with 39 other retards in week long Naxx raids, or kicking so much ass you could buy HWL's

Ever since arena was put into place the effort to be the best simply derives off point farming to buy gear that is on par with raid level tier, which gives a huge survivability increase therefore substituting skill for min-maxing and specific cookie cutter spec choices

You're joking, right? In the 2700+ bracket there is almost 0 room for error.

Big Abacab bout to do a rundown on why it's hard to kill you in a 1v1 situation with WoW's broken stat system...

You have the following:

8088 armor or 23.68% damage reduction
3635 resilience or 38.15% reduction to crit and damage
122,881 HP -> 145k with fort buff
2/2 in focused will adding up to 20% damage reduction for 8 sec
PWB which adds 30% damage reduction 2 min CD
Pain suppression which adds 40% damage reduction 3 min CD
Inspiration which reduces damage taken by 10%

Meaning at any given time in combat (CD's aside) just from you spam healing you received a total of 91.38% damage reduction (without CD's) from flash of light alone which becomes uninterruptable when shielded.

Add this into a power word which heals 20% of absorption out of a 60k shield which is a 12k heal total, and you're spamming heals that go as high as 22k.

To simply win this fight, you'd just need to remain shielded and casting mana-efficient heals as your weak dots wear me down slowly (thus was why it was a long duel)

You can claim skill all you want big Tralina, but when you have:

20k heals
91% innate damage reduction with procs about 64% without
Mobility
Un-interuptable casts
Limitless mana pool


It's very very hard to kill you when I'm only swinging for 6k a hit...

...and if she didn't know how to do all of that then you would've won, but she did know, which is why you lost.

Resilience is a "damage resistant" statistic meant to be for all sources of incoming damage. It was adopted in the burning crusade because people in cloth armor cried about being two shot by melee at close range (duh, winning?)

It works in two ways

It reduces damage from melee, spells, DoTs, and pets by a certain degree

It also reduces the chance to be critically hit by drastically reducing the damage your critical hit does making it more along the lines of a normal attack.

In a sense:

1% Resilience will:

* Reduce damage from all crits by 2.2%
* Reduce all player-caused damage by an additional 2%
* Reduce mana drained by 2.2%


It's especially overpowered because it can stack with AC, resistances, and damage reduction talents and skills, not to mention there are dodge, parry, and block mechanics in place that always have an innate 7.5% and can be stack to be upwards of 28% to go along with the previous resilience.

Resilience only reduces incoming damage from another player or their minions. It no longer reduces crits/crit chance, mana drain, or whatever else.

oh and its not easy to get 4k res, only hybrids stacking 2x 2 piece bonus can reach it, or gemming the fuck outta your gear, which not matching sockets is mostly a no no.

Ehhhhh, it really depends on what the socket bonus is. If you're getting Spirit out of your socket bonus or less than 6 SP then just gem for Resilience as a healer.


PS- Nice 'the Patient' title, dude. BTW, you and Phallax are both fucking clueless on WoW PvP, but if you're enjoying the game (why the fuck are you on the same server as Tralina?) that's what counts.

PPS- Bombfist has sexxy glaives.

[mimixownzall]

1. Resize your fucking pictures
2. You're Alliance,therefore both of you are trash by default
3. If you're Disc then yes you are going to rape a Warrior, especially if he's Fury and you have better gear.

Now to read the rest of the thread!

1. I see no pictures of fucking.
2. Obviously you are Horde. That means you are 12 and nerdrage about your 20 minute bg queues.
3. Whatever wow is gay.

[Ennoia]

1. I see no pictures of fucking.
2. Obviously you are Horde. That means you are 12 and nerdrage about your 20 minute bg queues.
3. Whatever wow is gay.

BG queues wouldn't be 20 fucking minutes to an hour if the asshole Alliance wasn't such a bunch of pussies and would play a game without a premade.

[mimixownzall]

BG queues wouldn't be 20 fucking minutes to an hour if the asshole Alliance wasn't such a bunch of pussies and would play a game without a premade.

Case in point.

NERD RAGE!!!!!!!