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Jauna
03-19-2019, 12:58 PM
Add a cast time to Spider nets and shiny brass idols
make the soulfire paladin clickable only

feniin
03-19-2019, 01:04 PM
Add a cast time to Spider nets and shiny brass idols
make the soulfire paladin clickable only

Mallets too. And golem metal wands. And don't forget Reapers! :mad:

Fingurs
03-19-2019, 01:06 PM
THey will get on that asap.

Gozuk
03-19-2019, 01:17 PM
please nerf Traveler's boots

Goodest
03-19-2019, 01:36 PM
Sir your request are not classic so i proclaim them to be false... thank you but declined

Prostatus
03-19-2019, 01:53 PM
Ivandyr's Hoop
This item has caused an inbalance in the raid game, and as such we have made some changes. In addition to a global resist increase to all lifetap spells, Ivandyr's Hoop has had it's rarity slightly increased, it has had it's merchant value removed (it can not be sold or recharged to merchants), and it will be disabled in Veeshan's Peak. We will evaluate if further changes need to be made.

indiscriminate_hater
03-19-2019, 02:08 PM
learn2exploit

derpcake2
03-19-2019, 02:28 PM
p1999, classic

teehee

TEEHEE

aaezil
03-19-2019, 02:37 PM
Imagine being so bad at eq that the only way you can “win” is by exploiting pathing/hate list mechanics/da cheese and instant cast aggro clicks

Mead
03-19-2019, 02:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hfoPQKh.gif

JayDee
03-19-2019, 03:01 PM
Vendor recharging should have been removed years ago

Heebs13
03-19-2019, 03:04 PM
Idols should be removed from the game IMO. You know the raid scene is dumb when it requires level 60s to permacamp a level 20 mob.

Jimjam
03-19-2019, 03:09 PM
Add a cast time to Spider nets and shiny brass idols
make the soulfire paladin clickable only

The rage has got so powerful it is calm.

Champion_Standing
03-19-2019, 03:25 PM
Vendor recharging should have been removed years ago

That would just make the server worse tbh, every clicky camp would look like idol.

Jauna
03-19-2019, 03:30 PM
please nerf Traveler's boots

I been buying tboots for alts because lazy and hasten griefers handing in 3k gold and walking away.

do not nerf tboots

Zeush
03-19-2019, 04:16 PM
Working as intended.....

Brocode
03-21-2019, 04:21 AM
go back to red.

Xaeophi
03-21-2019, 05:20 AM
All bs aside. Recharges were eventually taken out on live and soulfires made to be paladin usable only.

Jauna
03-21-2019, 05:31 AM
All bs aside. Recharges were eventually taken out on live and soulfires made to be paladin usable only.

Recharging is not the issue. Infact Recharging is keeping prices down overall. I did not list the reaper ormallet for that reason. And until the devs ever decide to add an ingame Casino like they did on Luclin (PP to Tokens, Tokens to Gamble for no-longer-dropping items) Eventually many of the current stuff was phased out by AAs or CH not making a dent in players health.

It is so depressing seeing a high level in highpass camping the orcs when only a few years ago there was a group always there.
Sad as fuck seeing high levels sock fucking Lucan for a soulfire. and the following server side spam "x got 5chs for today"

Someone elses Hoop argument
Spider Silk Nets used to have 5 charges
Leashing
shortish timer on TL windows
This server is no newcomer to "non classic" stuff, but does look out for the servers long term health.
And if Surefall Glades port ever decides to come to this server many a Permafrost groups will decide to not to because a decent enough chunk of mobs will be perma camped by net farmers.

Nirgon
03-21-2019, 12:38 PM
Add a cast time to Spider nets and shiny brass idols
make the soulfire paladin clickable only

Deport these people and undo all non classic changes

Bardp1999
03-21-2019, 12:45 PM
Give Shadow Knights dual wield

Darkatar
03-21-2019, 01:10 PM
Give Shadow Knights dual wield

https://i.imgur.com/ibC7NhZ.png

Jauna
03-21-2019, 01:51 PM
Deport these people and undo all non classic changes

Imagine Chardok post-patch without the 25 target ae limit

jolanar
03-21-2019, 02:07 PM
With all the other perfectly classic things they have changed, I don't see why changing these other clearly harmful things is any different personally.

Nirgon
03-21-2019, 02:09 PM
Nothing recreates the classic experience like recharging mallets and DA idols

Just kidding, it was quickly removed once it came to light

loramin
03-21-2019, 02:35 PM
With all the other perfectly classic things they have changed, I don't see why changing these other clearly harmful things is any different personally.

There's (mostly) a method to their madness. Basically, their default stance is "classic mechanics", ie. P99 should work the way the live servers worked in '99.

It might seem like they ignore that default stance randomly, but if you pay attention they make exceptions to it for only three reasons (that I'm aware of), all of which are essentially out of their control because of real world limitations:


Technical issues: stuff like the improper implementation of endurance/stamina or the lack of night blindness in human/human-derivative races is a limitation of the Titanium client, which they can't fix
Legal issues: two-boxing isn't allowed because limitless two-boxing wasn't allowed on live servers. Paid two-boxing was allowed, but P99 can't charge for legal reasons, so they have to prevent two-boxing entirely or else it would get extremely un-classic fast.
Support issues: in theory things like the 25-mob limit represent the crappy Internet most people had back in '99, and that probably helped the devs make the decision, but I think a huge part of it was also support time. Whenever one particular issue starts eating up a huge amount of support time, the devs seem to be willing to compromise (in small ways) the "classic vision" in order to make it so the all-volunteer support team can actually support the server


But otherwise, they stick to classic mechanics ... except on ZEMs. The unclassic P99 ZEMs are the one exception I'm aware of: they don't fit any of the above categories, yet the staff keeps them unclassic anyways, ostensibly because it gives a more classic feel. But as far as I know that's the only "classic environment over classic mechanics" decision they've ever made (and they made it so long ago I kind of suspect that if it came up today they might make a different decision, just because it's so anomalous with everything else in the project).

So yeah, the way I see it they're actually extremely consistent with their implementation of classic mechanics ... to the point where they even have an exception (ZEMs) which "proves the rule".

P.S. Many people think item linking is another exception. I'm not sure if it's a technical limit or not, but even if it isn't I still don't think it's an exception for another reason: it's a support issue. Item links can help prevent some scams that would eat up CS time, so whether the staff can remove them or not, I believe they're desired for saving CS time.

Danth
03-21-2019, 02:43 PM
But as far as I know that's the only "classic environment over classic mechanics" decision they've ever made (and they made it so long ago I kind of suspect that if it came up today they might make a different decision, just because it's so anomalous with everything else in the project).


One more: lifetaps (largely because of hoops) having hard resists against many raid-type monsters.

Danth

capco
03-21-2019, 02:45 PM
Is it possible to buy loot rights on Sir Lucan or do people not even entertain letting a Pally get their SoulFire?

Danth
03-21-2019, 02:46 PM
Can't edit, but a number of years ago Haynar said he had a fix to disable mousewheel scrolling to third person mode available but was over-ruled. That'd also fit into the "because they like it that way" category.

Danth

azeth
03-21-2019, 02:47 PM
Is it possible to buy loot rights on Sir Lucan or do people not even entertain letting a Pally get their SoulFire?

Yes very possible. Also guild's likely will concede the camp to a true untwinked Paladin main looking to progress.

capco
03-21-2019, 02:51 PM
Yes very possible. Also guild's likely will concede the camp to a true untwinked Paladin main looking to progress.

But if Sir Lucan is never up (fixed 7 hour timer, right?), how would I even get a chance to ask for such a concession? Do I have to wait at the spawn point until the campers show up so that I may ask?

loramin
03-21-2019, 02:53 PM
One more: lifetaps (largely because of hoops) having hard resists against many raid-type monsters.

Danth

Can't edit, but a number of years ago Haynar said he had a fix to disable mousewheel scrolling to third person mode available but was over-ruled. That'd also fit into the "because they like it that way" category.

Danth

Good points. Makes me want to create a wiki page ...

capco
03-21-2019, 02:53 PM
Same thing with buying the loot rights. How would I even know when to ask?

Champion_Standing
03-21-2019, 02:57 PM
But if Sir Lucan is never up (fixed 7 hour timer, right?), how would I even get a chance to ask for such a concession? Do I have to wait at the spawn point until the campers show up so that I may ask?

Yes

capco
03-21-2019, 03:01 PM
Yes

Sigh... so much for my Pally epic...

Erati
03-21-2019, 03:05 PM
Same thing with buying the loot rights. How would I even know when to ask?

Why are you asking about Sir Lucan in this thread?

Stand there, clear room and eventually he shows up. If you cant kill him and you are asking for someone else to literally camp him for you for free, well that aint happening without dick or tit pics depending on the sellers preference.

capco
03-21-2019, 03:09 PM
Why are you asking about Sir Lucan in this thread?

Stand there, clear room and eventually he shows up. If you cant kill him and you are asking for someone else to literally camp him for you for free, well that aint happening without dick or tit pics depending on the sellers preference.

I don't have the time to spend potentially 6+ hours waiting to kill him or even the chance to buy the loot rights.

I brought it up because it SoulFire was mentioned in the OP, or did you not read the thread?

Erati
03-21-2019, 03:16 PM
I don't have the time to spend potentially 6+ hours waiting to kill him or even the chance to buy the loot rights.

I brought it up because it SoulFire was mentioned in the OP, or did you not read the thread?

It was mentioned as needing a nerf etc not specific to the art of acquiring them on p99.

So you dont have time to do the quest but want it done for you by people taking the time to sit there waiting for a spawn. Got it.

What lvl is your character?

branamil
03-21-2019, 03:18 PM
So you basically just want to show up whenever you want and press a button, and get showered with gold and prizes. This site might help you https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/world-of-warcraft-battle-for-azeroth

capco
03-21-2019, 03:19 PM
It was mentioned as needing a nerf etc not specific to the art of acquiring them on p99.

So you dont have time to do the quest but want it done for you by people taking the time to sit there waiting for a spawn. Got it.

What lvl is your character?

Do people actually sit their for 7 hours at a time, or do they just set a 7 hour timer after the kill and arrive some minutes ahead of time since they know exactly when the repop is? The person/group who killed Lucan last has a huge advantage on when to kill him next.

Lvl 43.

capco
03-21-2019, 03:23 PM
There* not their lol

loramin
03-21-2019, 03:24 PM
Good points. Makes me want to create a wiki page ...

I was surprised to find that the wiki didn't actually have a Project 1999 page :eek:! So, I made one, and used it to detail Project 1999's policy on classic/un-classic decisions.

As always I'd appreciate feedback, but I'd especially appreciate it in this case since it's a key page. Also if anyone else can suggest other information that either should be on that page, or should be linked to from that page, please let me know!

http://wiki.project1999.com/Project_1999

loramin
03-21-2019, 03:28 PM
please let me know!

Or, better yet, edit the page and add it yourself: it's a wiki!

Nirgon
03-21-2019, 03:31 PM
At least mobs stun fleeing players now

One day you'll be playing classic eq

America
03-21-2019, 03:33 PM
life hack switch the R and the G in above poster's name and reveal his tru identity final form

Erati
03-21-2019, 04:24 PM
Do people actually sit their for 7 hours at a time, or do they just set a 7 hour timer after the kill and arrive some minutes ahead of time since they know exactly when the repop is? The person/group who killed Lucan last has a huge advantage on when to kill him next.

Lvl 43.

They sit there.

Level up more and then worry about your epic. You cant even ger Fiery Avenger until 46.

capco
03-21-2019, 04:50 PM
They sit there.

Level up more and then worry about your epic. You cant even ger Fiery Avenger until 46.

I've never seen a group sitting there or seen Sir Lucan up any time I've entered West Freeport since I started playing again this month. And I check every time. But okay.

I guess 3 levels means I'm thinking too far ahead.

Champion_Standing
03-21-2019, 05:01 PM
Sigh... so much for my Pally epic...

well tbh if you aren't willing to wait around for a maximum of 7 hours to get a kill you aren't gonna be getting any epics here bud.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:12 PM
well tbh if you aren't willing to wait around for a maximum of 7 hours to get a kill you aren't gonna be getting any epics here bud.

Booo :(

Can I at least get a price check on loot rights? I have all the other stuff, I just need the Lucan part.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:14 PM
Also, does the SoulFire need to be fully charged in order to obtain the Blessing from Sky? I know that's a whopping 3 levels ahead of schedule but it would be nice to know ahead of time.

Erati
03-21-2019, 05:15 PM
Booo :(

Can I at least get a price check on loot rights? I have all the other stuff, I just need the Lucan part.

Ally faction w Priests of Life and whatever the Freeport Paladin guild is?

Champion_Standing
03-21-2019, 05:18 PM
Saw a dude asking about getting a lucan kill in server chat a month or so ago and the next day he was thanking the guys for helping him get the kill lol. Ask around and you'll probably find a nice person with the timer and some people to help with the kill.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:18 PM
Ally faction w Priests of Life and whatever the Freeport Paladin guild is?

I have the Freeport faction mostly (it's high warmly but I just need a few more gold turns ins to Fabian to get it into Ally range).

Priest of Life I still need to do the bone chip quest a ton (I assume that's the best way to get faction). That was going to be my project for tonight.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:23 PM
Saw a dude asking about getting a lucan kill in server chat a month or so ago and the next day he was thanking the guys for helping him get the kill lol. Ask around and you'll probably find a nice person with the timer and some people to help with the kill.

Lol. I'd rather pay than freeload but I'll start asking around in EC.

Thank you.

Champion_Standing
03-21-2019, 05:26 PM
If you REALLY wanted the soulfire and were ready to kill Lucan tho you would already have parked a lvl 1 toon in there overnight to log his spawn time so you could get your group together for the next kill. I don't think you're hungry enough for it.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:29 PM
If you REALLY wanted the soulfire and were ready to kill Lucan tho you would already have parked a lvl 1 toon in there overnight to log his spawn time so you could get your group together for the next kill. I don't think you're hungry enough for it.

How do I log his spawn time?

Pringles
03-21-2019, 05:35 PM
Also, does the SoulFire need to be fully charged in order to obtain the Blessing from Sky? I know that's a whopping 3 levels ahead of schedule but it would be nice to know ahead of time.

No.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:40 PM
No.

Thank you!

Erati
03-21-2019, 05:42 PM
Also, does the SoulFire need to be fully charged in order to obtain the Blessing from Sky? I know that's a whopping 3 levels ahead of schedule but it would be nice to know ahead of time.

I dont think you realize how bad lvl 45 is for Paly to get through.

Probably worse hell level til you hit 54, then its real bad to 60.

capco
03-21-2019, 05:49 PM
I dont think you realize how bad lvl 45 is for Paly to get through.

Probably worse hell level til you hit 54, then its real bad to 60.

You're right, I probably don't. I don't even know what that guy means when he says "log the spawn time".

None of my chat windows have any kind of timestamp whatsoever.

capco
03-21-2019, 06:19 PM
Well I finally found someone there working on their own epic, and they are level 60 lol.

I'm just gonna wait here until he spawns while doing some chores and make note of the time.

Even if I'm AFK a long time and 30min off, that's a hell of a lot better than 7 hours.

loramin
03-21-2019, 06:54 PM
You're right, I probably don't. I don't even know what that guy means when he says "log the spawn time".

None of my chat windows have any kind of timestamp whatsoever.

If you look at the actual log files they have a timestamp.

capco
03-21-2019, 07:00 PM
If you look at the actual log files they have a timestamp.

Where are those located if I may ask?

Pringles
03-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Where are those located if I may ask?

Go to your Sony everquest install folder find eqclient.ini

Add Log=TRUE if not already there

Logs will be in your Sony everquest folder/logs subfolder now if they were not already.

capco
03-21-2019, 07:18 PM
Go to your Sony everquest install folder find eqclient.ini

Add Log=TRUE if not already there

Logs will be in your Sony everquest folder/logs subfolder now if they were not already.

Oh wonderful. I literally had no idea about this.

Thank you so much.

capco
03-21-2019, 07:22 PM
Do I have to turn them on or off somehow (I changed the Log line from FALSE to TRUE in that file)?

I just did a test run and the only file in that log folder was titled "dbg" and the timestamp was from 2015.

Any ideas?

capco
03-21-2019, 07:27 PM
Fwiw, it also wouldn't let me edit the file. I had to cut it to desktop first before I could change that line, then I moved the new version back into the Everquest folder.

Pringles
03-21-2019, 08:04 PM
If on windows move your install folder out of program files and directly under C:

Crede
03-21-2019, 08:31 PM
I paid someone like 4K for lucan loot rights. I found him on the EC forums. He was selling the MQ, but I got it even cheaper in game to be there for the kill. Not hard to find this stuff, you just gotta put in a little effort.

Also, Paladin epic is not easy. Unless you're buying the MQs, which aren't readily available, you're going to have to start putting in some slight effort and doing a bit of raiding to make friends and get the kills.

capco
03-21-2019, 10:45 PM
I paid someone like 4K for lucan loot rights. I found him on the EC forums. He was selling the MQ, but I got it even cheaper in game to be there for the kill. Not hard to find this stuff, you just gotta put in a little effort.

Also, Paladin epic is not easy. Unless you're buying the MQs, which aren't readily available, you're going to have to start putting in some slight effort and doing a bit of raiding to make friends and get the kills.

Thanks for the PC. Part of why I wasn't searching EC ahead of time was because I had no idea how much such a thing would sell for. I didn't want to get scammed.

Now that I have the spawn timer and a PC I at least have something to work with.

Any idea on how much a Book of Scale sells for? I think the last I saw 3 years ago was 22-25k but idk how pertinent that is.

capco
03-21-2019, 10:51 PM
If on windows move your install folder out of program files and directly under C:

So this worked for the logs (thank you again) but it seemed to mess up my keybinds, or at least my movement keys. I was using WASD but now it went back to the arrow keys.

Do I just need to manually reset everything? Honestly it's been so long I don't even remember how I went from the arrow keys to WASD in the first place.

Primordial Ooze
03-22-2019, 07:51 AM
So this worked for the logs (thank you again) but it seemed to mess up my keybinds, or at least my movement keys. I was using WASD but now it went back to the arrow keys.

Do I just need to manually reset everything? Honestly it's been so long I don't even remember how I went from the arrow keys to WASD in the first place.

Resetting should work if nothing else does - on your options window, go to the "keys" tab and use the drop down menu.