Aegis Alliance and Azure Guard rage over a Wooly Spider Silk Net.

[Lysander]

I come along in WC minding my own business.

[Thu Mar 07 16:08:19 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hello there, Caeldar. How about a nice White Wine?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:21 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 975 platinum 3 gold 2 silver 8 copper for the 10 Dose Potion of Stinging Wort.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:27 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 21 platinum 1 gold 6 silver 5 copper for the Wooly Spider Silk Net.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:27 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 21 platinum 1 gold 6 silver 5 copper for the Wooly Spider Silk Net.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:29 2019] You give 21 platinum 1 gold 6 silver 5 copper to Innkeep Redthorn.
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:32 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 10794 platinum 6 gold 5 silver 1 copper for the Locket of Escape.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:35 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 7 gold 4 silver for the Larrikan's Mask.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:36 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 93 platinum 9 gold 7 silver 6 copper for the Leatherfoot Raider Skullcap.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:37 2019] You give 93 platinum 9 gold 7 silver 6 copper to Innkeep Redthorn.
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:39 2019] Innkeep Redthorn tells you, 'That'll be 7 gold 4 silver for the Larrikan's Mask.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:41 2019] Copypaste says, 'stopp'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:42 2019] Copypaste says, 'lol'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:54 2019] You say, 'well uh'
[Thu Mar 07 16:08:56 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'plz sell that stuff back'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:06 2019] Copypaste says, 'gdi'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:19 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'can you plz return that stuff'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:21 2019] You say, 'it's a publicmerchant'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:31 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'plz..'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:35 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Greetings, Caeldar. You look like you could use a Braided Beard of the Coldain.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:39 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'ppl use this precise merchant for recharging'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:43 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'i get you don't know that'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:44 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Greetings, Aegisone. You look like you could use a Midnight Mallet.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:47 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'but can you plz return that stuff'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:51 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Copypaste.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:09:57 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'or i will have to petition'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:05 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hi there Caeldar, just browsing? Have you seen the Larrikan's Mask I just got in?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:05 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Copypaste. You would probably find a Ruby handy.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:17 2019] You say, 'i dont see what i am doing wrong here'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:26 2019] Copypaste says, 'ok be ready to get banned'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:31 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hello there, Copypaste. How about a nice Fine Steel Great Staff?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:35 2019] You say, 'ok'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:43 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Caeldar.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:10:57 2019] Gealuan says out of character, 'Porting to BB, WC, NK, and Toxx.... PST'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:16 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Aegisone. You would probably find a Fine Steel Morning Star handy.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:16 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Copypaste.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:47 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hi there Caeldar, just browsing? Have you seen the Fine Steel Morning Star I just got in?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:51 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'going to petition if you don't return that net, i will give you the 30pp for it'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:52 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hello there, Copypaste. How about a nice Bottle?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:54 2019] Aegisone tells you, 'that was a pretty dick move'
[Thu Mar 07 16:11:59 2019] Zomgg auctions, 'WTB Rune Etched Icewurm Fang'
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:06 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Greetings, Caeldar. You look like you could use a Fish Wine.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:11 2019] It will take you about 30 seconds to prepare your camp.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:15 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'last chance'
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:15 2019] It will take about 25 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:17 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hello there, Copypaste. How about a nice Short Ale?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:20 2019] It will take about 20 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:22 2019] The light breeze fades.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:25 2019] It will take about 15 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:30 2019] It will take about 10 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Thu Mar 07 16:12:35 2019] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.

I can't stand the idiocy so I logged out. They're lucky I didn't have more plat on my shitty shitty level 10 bard.
I log back in 20 minutes later, still there.

[Thu Mar 07 16:32:43 2019] Welcome to EverQuest!
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:43 2019] You have entered West Commonlands.
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:43 2019] MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to the Project 1999 Classic EverQuest server! Please visit our forums for more information, and to report any bugs, at: www.project1999.com
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:47 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Caeldar. You would probably find a Brandy handy.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:48 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hi there Aegisone, just browsing? Have you seen the Bottle I just got in?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:50 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Caeldar.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:51 2019] Copypaste says, 'you pos'
[Thu Mar 07 16:32:56 2019] Curlee says out of character, 'any clarity at druid ring ?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:33:02 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Welcome to my shop, Caeldar. You would probably find a Mead handy.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:33:04 2019] Copypaste says, 'give me back my shit'
[Thu Mar 07 16:33:10 2019] Aegisnine says, 'Hail, Caeldar'
[Thu Mar 07 16:33:25 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'you new at this game or just a cock sucker?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:33:27 2019] Curlee says out of character, 'thank you '
[Thu Mar 07 16:34:36 2019] Players in EverQuest:
[Thu Mar 07 16:34:36 2019] ---------------------------

[Thu Mar 07 16:34:36 2019] [ANONYMOUS] Copypaste
[Thu Mar 07 16:34:36 2019] There is 1 player in EverQuest.
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:21 2019] Copypaste is a member of Azure Guard.
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:31 2019] Aegisnine is not in a guild.
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:36 2019] Players in EverQuest:
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:36 2019] ---------------------------
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:36 2019] [5 Bard] Aegisnine (Human) ZONE: commons
[Thu Mar 07 16:35:36 2019] There is 1 player in EverQuest.
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:04 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'they saw what happened too'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:09 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Greetings, Caeldar. You look like you could use a Red Wine.'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:11 2019] Copypaste tells you, 'can save yourself some trouble by returning it'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:16 2019] Aegisnine says, 'dude what are you doing'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:21 2019] Aegisnine says, 'youre toast my man'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:25 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hi there Copypaste, just browsing? Have you seen the Fine Steel Great Staff I just got in?'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:44 2019] Aegisnine says, 'no more EQ for you Caeldar'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:50 2019] Copypaste says, 'what a pos'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:52 2019] Aegisnine says, 'Stealing. . .shame. . shame'
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:02 2019] Copypaste says, 'bout to get petitioned x3'
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:05 2019] Aegistwo's song ends abruptly.
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:06 2019] Aegisnine says, 'aye'
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:08 2019] Aegisnine says, 'done'
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:13 2019] Copypaste says, 'and your name dragged through the mud'
[Thu Mar 07 16:37:28 2019] Aegisnine says, 'messing with AG and Aegis. . what a dumb ass'
[Thu Mar 07 16:38:00 2019] Copypaste says, 'Caeldar, remember the name, pos who has no regard for anyone but himself'
[Thu Mar 07 16:39:49 2019] Copypaste makes a rude gesture at Caeldar.
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:05 2019] Copypaste says, 'cock sucker mooching mother fucker'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:12 2019] Copypaste says, 'still tryin to steal shit too'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:16 2019] Copypaste says, 'what a fuckin lowlife you are'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:28 2019] Copypaste says, 'gonna get far in this game i tell ya'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:36 2019] Copypaste says, 'you might become famous from this'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:43 2019] Copypaste says, 'shit's goin viral'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:50 2019] Copypaste says, 'have fun not playing the game anymore'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:59 2019] Copypaste says, 'oh and rot in hell'

I am sooooo terrified of AG and Aegis Alliance. So much for being nice guilds on the server. All I did was buy something off a public vendor. I cannot believe the self importance and delusion some people have to think that they own the server, just because they are high end raiders. This is pretty much outrageous. I wish I had bought your Larrikan's Mask and your Locket of Escape and every stupid thing on there. Maybe next time use a vendor that isn't in West Commonlands?

Glad you people have such good anger management skills you descend to cocksucker and insults over losing 500p.

[solleks]

i'm MAD RIGHT NOW

[indiscriminate_hater]

didn't read, in for a likely backfire thread

[I Felt Nostalgic]

I am never surprised when I come across cunts in EverQuest.

[twill86]

I've noticed in the last several months all my interactions with AG have been getting worse. Used to be pretty chill everytime I had dealings with them. I think the big pixels are going to their heads.

Dragon sickness.

[Droxx]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221029

[eezl]

Who's the Cunt in this scenario? Caeldar, for intentionally buying items AG is trying to recharge, or AG/Aegis, for being so so so stupid enough to use WC to recharge a fucking Locket of Escape? Trick question, all parties are cunts.

[Heebs13]

I hear on red items cannot be recharged. Sounds like problem solved.

[Emerald_keep]

Op is a real rising star.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221029

I love this kinda shit. Thanks for the link. Us new guys appreciate it.

[Ripqozko]

Subscribed

[pogs4ever]

damn i want a locket of escape for 1k

[pogs4ever]

damn i want a locket of escape for 1k

i mean 10k

[Not_Mikeo]

[Thu Mar 07 16:11:52 2019] Innkeep Redthorn says 'Hello there, Copypaste. How about a nice Bottle?'


AG baby needed a bottle?

[branamil]

Lots of ALS have been toxic af for being a so called role playing guild. It's still the same diabetic indigents behind the screen

[Lysander]

So where's the petition? Waiting to hear from Copypaste. I wanna know when I get banned, thanks.

[Wonkie]

THE SEQUEL

[JayDee]

Recharging should be removed

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Recharging should be removed

At least through vendors. Make people do some fucked up quest to recharge if they want.

[xplit871]

So i guess my question is once you were asked to give it back and they would refund the plat because it was their items, why not just do it? Its not like you walked up to a random merchant with no one around and the items were there. There was clearly people there and they asked for the items back in exchange for the plat and you refuse and call them dicks?

Sounds like another childish ass-shat to me. Hope you do get smacked with a ban hammer to teach you a lesson in being a decent person. And what gets me. Is you log back in and do it AGAIN.

Then you come on here and try and flame them like they did something wrong? Grow up kids.

[Oscillate]

Glad you people have such good anger management skills you descend to cocksucker and insults over losing 500p.

To be fair, you are a scumbag. That vendor has been used for recharging forever and just because you don't know this, doesn't make it right. /facepalm

[eezl]

remember that time someone stalked the AM recharge bot and then got some true clickies when they were recharging? I'm recalling puppet strings, maybe a bladestopper and/or earring of frozen skull? If anyone remembers this SCANDAL, I want testimony!

[Erati]

Should only recharge at the barbarian village in East Karana imo

[Rang]

Copypaste non classic name imo should be changed

[Llandris]

Jeremy Irons version 2.0

[Detoxx]

Speaking from experience, GMs typically wont do anything about people buying items from a merchant regardless of if it was there for recharges. Not that theres many GMs around anymore anyways...

[Not_Mikeo]

Speaking from experience, GMs typically wont do anything about people buying items from a merchant regardless of if it was there for recharges. Not that theres many GMs around anymore anyways...

That’s staff bashing!!! Gettum!!!

[m00r5tuD]

Lysander u r sad bruh

[Oscillate]

Speaking from experience, GMs typically wont do anything about people buying items from a merchant regardless of if it was there for recharges. Not that theres many GMs around anymore anyways...

Yeah, no way they bother with it. Its a scummy thing to do, but no action will be taken.

[k9quaint]

Let the free market reign!

[Rygar]

Confucius says: is stealing a chargeable item off a vendor dumber than the fact they somehow know how to recharge it?

[Droxx]

Time to start camping me a locket of escape and some puppet strings.

[Foxplay]

OP is a dirtbag , he knew what he was doing full well otherwise he wouldn't have said the obvious "wish I had more plat on my lvl 10 bard"

He's not a new player by this statement and wishes he had more resources to intentionally screw somebody over more so than he did.

His intent is clear in that statement enough. They even asked him to stop in case he didn't understand

I agree hide your recharges better but if people would stop intentionally seek to harm other people's gameplay they wouldn't have too

[Wonkie]

what a lucrative camp! get fte on them riches

[Liia]

I also ended up on AG recharges a few weeks ago. There was not any item such as Locket of Escape on it when I looked. I actually used some stuff to recharge, but I though it was the worst spot in-game to actually recharge. That Inn in WC is probably the most used one in game for recharges.

Better change that spot before there's some real drama. Just an advice.

[Pint]

Find a better recharge spot ya idiots

[reznor_]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221029

lmfao

[reznor_]

op is still a fucking shoemaker tho

[gutterbrain]

Why would you expect to make a thread about stealing recharges and expect to be seen as the victim here?

[Maliant]

OP is a douche and a half but as others have said it is not against the rules to buy recharge items off a merchant. Surprised OP posted this though - was your reputation really worth a net and WC cap? If you had snagged the Locket of Escape it might be a worthy heist but you even suck at that. You fail at forum quest, Everquest and most likely life in general.

[Legidias]

Recharges on consumables are dumb in general, good on OP

[Kesselring]

Popcorn.jpeg

[Swish2]

All trades are final, sorry you lost AG.

Also I think it's time Azure Guard was renamed. That guild has slid so far into the gutter since Nemce left I don't recognize most of their behavior these days.

[Swish2]

[Thu Mar 07 16:10:26 2019] Copypaste says, 'ok be ready to get banned'

[Thu Mar 07 16:36:16 2019] Aegisnine says, 'dude what are you doing'
[Thu Mar 07 16:36:21 2019] Aegisnine says, 'youre toast my man'

[Thu Mar 07 16:36:44 2019] Aegisnine says, 'no more EQ for you Caeldar'

[Thu Mar 07 16:37:02 2019] Copypaste says, 'bout to get petitioned x3'


[Thu Mar 07 16:37:28 2019] Aegisnine says, 'messing with AG and Aegis. . what a dumb ass'

[Thu Mar 07 16:40:50 2019] Copypaste says, 'have fun not playing the game anymore'
[Thu Mar 07 16:40:59 2019] Copypaste says, 'oh and rot in hell'

Highlights for me. Along with people thinking you can't find out their guild name if you're /anon :D

[hobart]

Seems like AG does recharges the same way they do train ups and train downs in ToV. They're terrible at both.

[Lysander]

Why would you expect to make a thread about stealing recharges and expect to be seen as the victim here?

I'm not the victim. It was a douche move. I am just appalled at how whiny and butthurt some people are, and the fact that they think that this stuff is bannable is ridiculous. They are completely delusional.

[hobart]

I think you actually are the victim. I honor your truth.

[branamil]

Why would you recharge in plain sight? That's just stupid and you get what's coming to you.

[Sonderbeast]

recharge at a random unused merchant next to King Ak'Anon like every other legitimate guild ffs

[Jimjam]

All trades are final, sorry you lost AG.Aye, when you sell an item you no longer have any say over it. Recharging is a risk and to do so in plain sight is a reckless one.

Similar heists have been pulled, and there are plenty of veterans in AG who should know better.

The items bought by op should have been asked back for with a 'we will reimburse you for our mistake, please excuse our negligence with guild property' tact and without aggression.

AG should be thankful they did not lose anything more valuable and use this as a lesson.

WC is fine for recharging fairly disposable items like caps, but completely inappropriate for something like a locket of escape; if another player buys it, it is is theirs fair and square. If you sell something to an antique dealers you can't get mad someone else bought it.


DEVILS ADVOCATE, I believed I preached something similar to the AM heist. Also people who buy items being recharged deserve a ruined rep even if it 'isn't cheating'.

Book not up.

[Ashenden]

Quality thread, OP.

Who's the Cunt in this scenario? Caeldar, for intentionally buying items AG is trying to recharge, or AG/Aegis, for being so so so stupid enough to use WC to recharge a fucking Locket of Escape? Trick question, all parties are cunts.

You have no clue how poverty Aegis is if you think we have something as fancy as a Locket of Escape.

Lots of ALS have been toxic af for being a so called role playing guild. It's still the same diabetic indigents behind the screen

We all know you have one of the largest hate boners for ALS on the server, but why bring it up in a tangentially related thread like this? You already find enough places to force it in. Also nobody is calling ALS a roleplay guild, yikes.

[Babar]

Lysander, you sir are a douche. Can you please list you other toons names here so we all know? So far we got Caeldar. . . Thanks!

[Heebs13]

Why would you recharge in plain sight? That's just stupid and you get what's coming to you.

"It's not my fault I robbed that house, officer - they left their front door unlocked!"

Or try:

"Why would she dress that way? That's stupid and she got what was coming to her."

Not surprised in the slightest though. I would expect nothing less from the fine citizens of RnF.

[aaezil]

You stole recharge items from ALS? That’s kinda like stealing a 1/2 a garbage burrito from a homeless guy... super low man

[I Felt Nostalgic]

"It's not my fault I robbed that house, officer - they left their front door unlocked!"

Or try:

"Why would she dress that way? That's stupid and she got what was coming to her."

Not surprised in the slightest though. I would expect nothing less from the fine citizens of RnF.

It don't work like that buddy. Anyway, if I see something on a vendor it's fair game. It's not my fault you're a fucktard recharging items on a high traffic vendor.

[Heebs13]

It don't work like that buddy.

By all means, elaborate.

[Primordial Ooze]

Thanks for naming and shaming yourself, Caeldar.

[kotton05]

Only guild not to be hit by Cain was Rustle . Sorry you can’t recharge but nothing will happen to the guy who buys it off the merchant. Perfectly legal. A real power play.

[kotton05]

Cain = caiu (autocorrect)

[Rufus1]

Recharging items on live back in the day must have been an adventure each time.

[aaezil]

Recharging items on live back in the day must have been an adventure each time.

People didnt know about recharges in this era

[Quizlop]

Once you sell an item to a merchant, you've relenquished all claim to that item until you buy it back and it's in your inventory.

Can't fault people who utilize game mechanics (buying items from merchants) the way they were intended.

[branamil]

"It's not my fault I robbed that house, officer - they left their front door unlocked!"

Or try:

"Why would she dress that way? That's stupid and she got what was coming to her."

Not surprised in the slightest though. I would expect nothing less from the fine citizens of RnF.

More like: I dropped a fungi tunic in the middle of EC tunnel for transferring to my alt.. and someone TOOK it!!! What has this server come to? Have they no decency? Oh what a world!

[Legidias]

It's like if you sold a guitar to a pawn shop IRL when you needed rent money, then a month later when you come back someone bought it and you threaten to call the cops on that guy.

[branamil]

We all know you have one of the largest hate boners for ALS on the server, but why bring it up in a tangentially related thread like this? You already find enough places to force it in. Also nobody is calling ALS a roleplay guild, yikes.

Because apparently our Kaesora library bonding session meant NOTHING to you. You took our friendship and threw it in the trash.

[Troxx]

Once you sell an item to a merchant, you've relenquished all claim to that item until you buy it back and it's in your inventory.

This.

Recharging can be a risky business. If you choose to do it in a populated area, you take it to a whole new level of risk and can’t really complain if someone buys your stuff.

Was it a dick move? Sure. Was it actually wrong? No.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Great thread.

Blue rule set is dumb anyways. Anything legal is valid and should be used without second thought. I look forward to the new meta game of merchant killing and vendor sniping.

[ReadOnly]

I'm not the victim. It was a douche move. I am just appalled at how whiny and butthurt some people are

You bought items you knew someone was recharging. Items they likely camped or quested for hours. Why do you think that's okay?

Doesn't P99 have a "Play Nice" policy? Is buying items that someone else is obviously recharging "Playing Nice?" It wasn't like the guy innocently bought the stuff. He knew they were recharging and took advantage of the situation. Regardless of it "being dumb they were recharging in a public spot," that's still not a valid excuse to steal their stuff.

[aaezil]

If only playing nice was an enforceable rule (it isnt)

[Legidias]

People who are A-ok with douchebag raid leapfrogging seem to be very butthurt about vendor leapfrogging.

[Teppler]

I will never stop ground transferring in EC. Where’s your sense of adventure people?

[loramin]

You bought items you knew someone was recharging. Items they likely camped or quested for hours. Why do you think that's okay?

Doesn't P99 have a "Play Nice" policy? Is buying items that someone else is obviously recharging "Playing Nice?" It wasn't like the guy innocently bought the stuff. He knew they were recharging and took advantage of the situation. Regardless of it "being dumb they were recharging in a public spot," that's still not a valid excuse to steal their stuff.

The Play Nice Policy very specifically does not cover recharging (or multi-quests): https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132299

The reason is simple: A) both MQing and recharging are arguably exploits, but are sort of in a gray area, and B) dealing with recharging/multi-questing issues would be a drag on staff time.

So, both mechanics are kept in the game (on Blue at least, Red doesn't even allow recharging I believe), but they are very explicitly "do at your own risk" activities.

[Erati]

The Play Nice Policy very specifically does not cover recharging (or multi-quests): https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132299

The reason is simple: A) both MQing and recharging are arguably exploits, but are sort of in a gray area, and B) dealing with recharging/multi-questing issues would be a drag on staff time.

So, both mechanics are kept in the game (on Blue at least, Red doesn't even allow recharging I believe), but they are very explicitly "do at your own risk" activities.

Dude...MQing is not an exploit lol.

Quests had that function written in specifically as evidenced by NPCs having text when you turn in individual parts of the quest.

[Legidias]

If they weren't, there wouldn't be any no drop quest items in game

[Viscere]

remember that time someone stalked the AM recharge bot and then got some true clickies when they were recharging? I'm recalling puppet strings, maybe a bladestopper and/or earring of frozen skull? If anyone remembers this SCANDAL, I want testimony!

puppet strings
bladestopper

yep

we didn't get it back from the GMs

we just got it back from the mobs :D

[mattydef]

Dick move but the reactions were pretty hilarious.

[bigjeff100]

Everybody in those logs seem gross and troubled.. OP knows what he's doing.. Lack of any real conversation with the other clowns prove it. Others are still clowns. All of you involved need to take a break. Jesus Murphy.

[Heebs13]

The Play Nice Policy very specifically does not cover recharging (or multi-quests): https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132299

The reason is simple: A) both MQing and recharging are arguably exploits, but are sort of in a gray area, and B) dealing with recharging/multi-questing issues would be a drag on staff time.

So, both mechanics are kept in the game (on Blue at least, Red doesn't even allow recharging I believe), but they are very explicitly "do at your own risk" activities.

It's a problem with the server and rules more than a problem with the players.

Exploit intentionally left in the game in the name of being 'classic'.

No rules or CSR support regarding it because it's an 'exploit' (even though at this point, it's intentionally there).

Raid scene pretty much requires usage of this mechanic in order to compete.

Players use the mechanic to try to compete, other players take advantage, no CSR support because fuck you, result -> forum drama.

Has happened before, will happen again until the rules change.

[Champion_Standing]

Dude...MQing is not an exploit lol.

Quests had that function written in specifically as evidenced by NPCs having text when you turn in individual parts of the quest.

Yeah that's definitely why they have dialog. Only possible explanation.

[Erati]

Yeah that's definitely why they have dialog. Only possible explanation.

What would be another reason? Its a sign that developers planned Quest turn ins to be done one at a time and notify people around via /say when the step has been turned in...

Sounds like a mechanic for community questing to me.

[Dillusional]

Item recharging is an excellent feature of the game. It's the only real plat sink in the economy. 100s of thousands of plat are taken out of circulation every week by guilds recharging items. It's also cool that your character is individually more powerful by being part of a guild that does recharges.

Really reckless of AG to do recharges in WC... such a high traffic zone. OP is a dick all the same. It's like knocking a kids ice cream cone out of his hands. Just leave him alone.

[Champion_Standing]

What would be another reason? Its a sign that developers planned Quest turn ins to be done one at a time and notify people around via /say when the step has been turned in...

Sounds like a mechanic for community questing to me.

The game wasn't released with a wiki or quest guide, the NPC dialog is how you figure out what to turn in and if you turned in all the right items. The mechanic obviously exists to notify the player that they haven't completed the turn ins or turned in the wrong items and to give them the opportunity to do so.

[Erati]

The game wasn't released with a wiki or quest guide, the NPC dialog is how you figure out what to turn in and if you turned in all the right items. The mechanic obviously exists to notify the player that they haven't completed the turn ins or turned in the wrong items and to give them the opportunity to do so.

Sure thats the ONLY reason it’s in say and not a tell to the character like a merchant...

[Champion_Standing]

Sure thats the ONLY reason it’s in say and not a tell to the character like a merchant...

It's likely to notify other players that a turn in is in progress and they need to wait to turn in their items. The abundance of No Drop items that are required as part of quests is pretty clear evidence that they intended those pieces to be looted and turned in by the player completing the quest.

[Erati]

Now I totally get that both of us don’t know the full reason as we are not original devs but...

name one quest that features text from individual turn in that isnt also MQable.

Im almost certain those text lines really started to appear often once Epics/VP key type quests came in w tons of no drop pieces. It was most certainly assumed that people other than the person who was doing the quest would acquire these items and still be able to turn them in to progress a quest for someone else.

[Champion_Standing]

That text appears on everything from bone chips and deathfist belt turn ins to epic turn ins. You also see the text when other players have completed quests that only have one piece to turn in. So i really doubt the reasoning was to make quests easily MQable.

They likely did make a decision not to patch them out or maybe it was just a limitation of the game at the time and couldn't be done. But I fail to see the point of making any quest items no drop if the intention was to allow players to essentially sell or trade them.

[Erati]

That text appears on everything from bone chips and deathfist belt turn ins to epic turn ins. You also see the text when other players have completed quests that only have one piece to turn in. So i really doubt the reasoning was to make quests easily MQable.

They likely did make a decision not to patch them out or maybe it was just a limitation of the game at the time and couldn't be done. But I fail to see the point of making any quest items no drop if the intention was to allow players to essentially sell or trade them.

Those quests are MQable. Someone can turn in 3 bone chips and you turn in 1 and get the exp.

And quest items were probably no drop so the hope was at some point the person doing the quest actually did the encounter and loot the item but its silly to think Devs wouldnt understand there would be times a player comes across a no drop quest item for another classes quest. Yes original EQ was hard and unforgiving but it was also carefully planned in how questing works practically. Devs were players as well.

[Champion_Standing]

Those quests are MQable. Someone can turn in 3 bone chips and you turn in 1 and get the exp.

And quest items were probably no drop so the hope was at some point the person doing the quest actually did the encounter and loot the item but its silly to think Devs wouldnt understand there would be times a player comes across a no drop quest item for another classes quest. Yes original EQ was hard and unforgiving but it was also carefully planned in how questing works practically. Devs were players as well.

Every quest has the dialog in say when you complete it, single or multiple item turn ins. It has nothing to do with it being MQable. The only NPC dialog that's not in say is when you use a merchant.

[Lune]

What would be another reason? Its a sign that developers planned Quest turn ins to be done one at a time and notify people around via /say when the step has been turned in...

Sounds like a mechanic for community questing to me.

An equally plausible reason is to guide individuals who are figuring out how to do the quest for the first time, and to restate quest requirements in an era of 56k and slow computers-- when it wasn't quite as easy to have a guide open on another monitor showing you everything you need to do. When trying to "solve" a quest it notifies you that you've turned in a correct item... but not all the correct items.

"Oh I've turned in one of my glowing stones to Foloal Stormforest and she says she needs both, that must mean I also need to hand her my VS stone too"

[Erati]

Every quest has the dialog in say when you complete it, single or multiple item turn ins. It has nothing to do with it being MQable. The only NPC dialog that's not in say is when you use a merchant.

Merchants use say when you initially click on them. And no, not every quest has text for individual turn ins. Having text from a single turn in of a multi item quest hand-in is certainly not the norm for the vast majority of quests, even MQable ones. There are many MQable quests where the NPCs say nothing at all until the final hand in is complete. So the mechanic was present to the point that Devs really started crafting more and more quests that featured completion text lines after a single turn in and surprise surprise, as most quests are MQable as we moved on from the original classic EQ. Kunark epic and VP quests were first major quests you could multi quest and most “long” quests in the following expansions followed same model.

Its ok, neither of us know the full truth. Ive explained my angle as you have yours.

Ill just agree that we disagree.

[Lune]

Yea, devs clearly intended people to MQ epics

lol

[Erati]

An equally plausible reason is to guide individuals who are figuring out how to do the quest for the first time, and to restate quest requirements in an era of 56k and slow computers-- when it wasn't quite as easy to have a guide open on another monitor showing you everything you need to do. When trying to "solve" a quest it notifies you that you've turned in a correct item... but not all the correct items.

"Oh I've turned in one of my glowing stones to Foloal Stormforest and she says she needs both, that must mean I also need to hand her my VS stone too"

My angle was that the game already uses a feature where NPCs send a direct tell to you that others do not see. If the case was as simple as you say, then why not have quest npcs also do this like a merchant does when he tells you how much an item costs. So to me the fact that text is in say means something as that had to be decided by the Devs for a reason. Why make that bit public for anyone standing around and why do not all quests have text for individual turn ins. So you could surmize as I have that theres a method to the madness and the Devs understood that there needed to be a way to signal to people around a quest npc that a turn in was completed to people beyond just the player turning it in.

The answer is no one knows but at least I am pointing out the discrepencies present.

[Erati]

Yea, devs clearly intended people to MQ epics

lol

Prove that they didnt intend it.

Im showing some real differences in how non-MQ and MQable quests handle their npc text and the counter points have yet to really show anything that the angle Ive explained is not accurate to what the Devs put in on purpose.

[Aviann]

Pras OP. Sucks to suck AG. I remember half of the names bashing the OP were some of the people cheering when it happened to AM, and TMO before them. Karma is a bitch pals.

[Cilraaz]

Prove that they didnt intend it.

Im showing some real differences in how non-MQ and MQable quests handle their npc text and the counter points have yet to really show anything that the angle Ive explained is not accurate to what the Devs put in on purpose.

When I was in the Guide program on live, we were expressly forbidden from assisting players with any manner of MQ. The stated reason was that it was an unintended function of the quest system.

[Erati]

When I was in the Guide program on live, we were expressly forbidden from assisting players with any manner of MQ. The stated reason was that it was an unintended function of the quest system.

Well thank you for some actual relevant info to this debate. My question is tho what era were you a guide, because tons of Quests were all MQable as EQ went on and if it wasnt a feature that the Devs wanted to be used could have written it out.

[Cilraaz]

Well thank you for some actual relevant info to this debate. My question is tho what era were you a guide, because tons of Quests were all MQable as EQ went on and if it wasnt a feature that the Devs wanted to be used could have written it out.

I was a guide from 2002 (mid-Luclin) to 2004 (OoW era). I quit Live in late 2005.

[Aeaolena]

OP is a douche and a half but as others have said it is not against the rules to buy recharge items off a merchant. Surprised OP posted this though - was your reputation really worth a net and WC cap? If you had snagged the Locket of Escape it might be a worthy heist but you even suck at that. You fail at forum quest, Everquest and most likely life in general.

LOL I was thinking this exact thing. EQ is a huge time commitment and a game where server reputation actually matters in the success of your character. Considering this was such a very small haul to trash your reputation on..

I think OP just trolled.. himself.

Thanks for lettin' P1999 know yer server name, genius. Want to go ahead and list off the rest of your alts names, too?


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[Erati]

I was a guide from 2002 (mid-Luclin) to 2004 (OoW era). I quit Live in late 2005.

Very cool ty for shedding real light. Its pretty odd how they handled it as its obvious they were aware of the practice and could have prevented it w coding but chose not too. Having guides not assist w failed MQs seems like a sensible policy to have to limit the workload of Guides to more dire things that the GMs preferred be handled.

They recently on live removed the ability to MQ Coldain rings, so they do seem to pick and choose when an individual has to complete an entire quest. Still dont feel its an exploit, unintended sure but an exploit gets fixed not allowed to fester for 20 years in the case of Coldain rings.

[Cilraaz]

Very cool ty for shedding real light. Its pretty odd how they handled it as its obvious they were aware of the practice and could have prevented it w coding but chose not too. Having guides not assist w failed MQs seems like a sensible policy to have to limit the workload of Guides to more dire things that the GMs preferred be handled.

They recently on live removed the ability to MQ Coldain rings, so they do seem to pick and choose when an individual has to complete an entire quest. Still dont feel its an exploit, unintended sure but an exploit gets fixed not allowed to fester for 20 years in the case of Coldain rings.

I think that once it became a thing, they decided not to take it away, but at the same time not support it. I don't think they ever considered it an exploit, per se, but it was unintended. I don't think the GMs were treated very well back then. I know the GM of my server was run ragged. So being able to instantly ignore a situation that would have required a bunch of digging through logs was good.

[Ghostly]

LOL I was thinking this exact thing. EQ is a huge time commitment and a game where server reputation actually matters in the success of your character. Considering this was such a very small haul to trash your reputation on..

I think OP just trolled.. himself.

Thanks for lettin' P1999 know yer server name, genius. Want to go ahead and list off the rest of your alts names, too?


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Yeah, what an idiot openly showing his level 10 bards name.... Because that will totally affect his reputation on his main. Or he could just reroll his Bard and walk away with all the gear he legitimately got.

[Disease]

LOL I was thinking this exact thing. EQ is a huge time commitment and a game where server reputation actually matters in the success of your character. Considering this was such a very small haul to trash your reputation on..

I think OP just trolled.. himself.

Thanks for lettin' P1999 know yer server name, genius. Want to go ahead and list off the rest of your alts names, too?


https://imgur.com/I6AVQTc.gif

It was a level 10 bard mule...

[Ripqozko]

Lvl 10 bards take like 30min to roll, that'll show em.

[jarshale]

Stealing recharge items from people exploiting vendor mechanics is VERY classic.

[Wonkie]

Prove that they didnt intend it.

Im showing some real differences in how non-MQ and MQable quests handle their npc text and the counter points have yet to really show anything that the angle Ive explained is not accurate to what the Devs put in on purpose.

excuse me stop doing the bad faith

[Legidias]

Exploiting dumb people exploiting a game exploit = exploit.

Also, exploit.

[Savok]

Pras OP. Sucks to suck AG. I remember half of the names bashing the OP were some of the people cheering when it happened to AM, and TMO before them. Karma is a bitch pals.

It was funny when it happened to AM and TMO and it is as funny when it happened to AG. You all know the risks when you sell this crap to a vender.

[Aeaolena]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=170457

Lysander is not a throwaway account. He's been on the server since 2017. Main is a Necro.
Profile Page has had 1,385 visits. Seems like a lot of people visiting lately!~



In all seriousness, 100% chance at least a few of his Main-Necromancer's current guildies have put two and two together with his server name and this legit-but-supertrashy move has permanently colored their opinion of the guy. (One or two may have nudged him into making this public post - but those 'friends' are not your friends, OP. They are schadenfreude at your expense right now.)

[DMN]

Pras OP. Sucks to suck AG. I remember half of the names bashing the OP were some of the people cheering when it happened to AM, and TMO before them. Karma is a bitch pals.

Should see your proctologist for all that ass hurt.

[Swish2]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=170457

Lysander is not a throwaway account. He's been on the server since 2017. Main is a Necro.
Profile Page has had 1,385 visits. Seems like a lot of people visiting lately!~



In all seriousness, 100% chance at least a few of his Main-Necromancer's current guildies have put two and two together with his server name and this legit-but-supertrashy move has permanently colored their opinion of the guy. (One or two may have nudged him into making this public post - but those 'friends' are not your friends, OP. They are schadenfreude at your expense right now.)

Were you one of the people that lost items? :o

[Ripqozko]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=170457

Lysander is not a throwaway account. He's been on the server since 2017. Main is a Necro.
Profile Page has had 1,385 visits. Seems like a lot of people visiting lately!~



In all seriousness, 100% chance at least a few of his Main-Necromancer's current guildies have put two and two together with his server name and this legit-but-supertrashy move has permanently colored their opinion of the guy. (One or two may have nudged him into making this public post - but those 'friends' are not your friends, OP. They are schadenfreude at your expense right now.)

I found 6ix9ine watch out folks

[I Felt Nostalgic]

I found 6ix9ine watch out folks

Isn't he supposed to be in witness protection? Why is he on the internet?

[Aviann]

Should see your proctologist for all that ass hurt.

I'm pretty sure you are throwing that 'ass hurt' statement to the wrong individual... If you'd like to see a couple better choices, try reading the OP and reassessing.

It was funny when it happened to AM and TMO and it is as funny when it happened to AG. You all know the risks when you sell this crap to a vender.

I agree 100%. lol, i'm just enjoying how these folks laughed about it before and are suddenly angry because it happened to them.

[Aeaolena]

Were you one of the people that lost items? :o

Shhhh SwishTheSirkenAltForumAccount, let me sell my pitchforks in peace! omg!

[Swish2]

Shhhh SwishTheSirkenAltForumAccount, let me sell my pitchforks in peace! omg!

I'm Sirken now? That's A+

[Castigate]

You guys learned an extremely cheap lesson IMO, and should be thanking OP for letting you off with just a couple hundred lost plat instead of a million or whatever that locket goes for. :eek:

[America]

You guys learned an extremely cheap lesson IMO, and should be thanking OP for letting you off with just a couple hundred lost plat instead of a million or whatever that locket goes for. :eek:

did you play WoW on Spinebreaker?

[Qtip]

Shhhh SwishTheSirkenAltForumAccount, let me sell my pitchforks in peace! omg!

Folks remember these posts when applying to azure guard. Recharges items in the 2nd most popular zone in the game. Swish is sirken..... LOL.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Shhhh SwishTheSirkenAltForumAccount, let me sell my pitchforks in peace! omg!

Looks like a veiled attempt at bashing staff...

I thought bashing staff was a bannable offense...

Are you sure you want to go down this road...?

[Rainik Stormseeker]

A++RNF thread

[Sonderbeast]

A++RNF thread

Rainik = Aegisnine

[aaezil]

Imagine comparing sirken to that imbecile

[Tethler]

Recharging is out of control on this server. OP doing the lords work.

[Castigate]

did you play WoW on Spinebreaker?

I played only during Vanilla on Staghelm, mostly PVP.

[DMN]

I'm pretty sure you are throwing that 'ass hurt' statement to the wrong individual... If you'd like to see a couple better choices, try reading the OP and reassessing.

Certainly impacted.
*takes doctor notes*

[Aeaolena]

Imagine comparing sirken to that imbecile

Yeah, too much time has passed from the original absurd conspiracy joke a while back. I didn't expect anyone to actually think I wasn't kidding. That's my bad. Sorry Sirken!

[MiRo2]

Why is everyone angry with Caeldar when Innkeep Redthorn is clearly the one to blame for selling the item?

[Aviann]

Why is everyone angry with Caeldar when Innkeep Redthorn is clearly the one to blame for selling the item?

RIGHT?!

[Wonkie]

Why is everyone angry with Caeldar when Innkeep Redthorn is clearly the one to blame for selling the item?

Innkeep Redthorn ur getting a bad rep get ready for BAN

[Sadiki]

Watching people argue on P99

https://i.imgur.com/PF9cBsx.png

[Swish2]

Folks remember these posts when applying to azure guard. Recharges items in the 2nd most popular zone in the game. Swish is sirken..... LOL.

Looks like a veiled attempt at bashing staff...

I thought bashing staff was a bannable offense...

Are you sure you want to go down this road...?



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[I Felt Nostalgic]

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https://i.imgur.com/jtxq3g8.gif?noredirect

[derpcake2]

In all seriousness, 100% chance at least a few of his Main-Necromancer's current guildies have put two and two together with his server name and this legit-but-supertrashy move has permanently colored their opinion of the guy.

I'm one of those people, I think OP is great for what he did, and everyone salty about it can eat a bag of dicks.

[NZV]

I know Lysander's necromancer's name. This is not a joke.

My price is 200k.

[Quizlop]

I know Lysander's necromancer's name. This is not a joke.

My price is 200k.

Counter offer: One Wooly Spider Silk Net

[America]

[Thu Mar 07 16:40:43 2019] Copypaste says, 'shit's goin viral'

[Rufus1]

Seems time to remove recharging items on blue. Guy was just trying to relive the classic experience by purchasing items a vendor had in stock. Since we're all here for the most classic experience possible, some more than others, it should be wiped from everyone's mind.

[kotton05]

Should roll for first to vendor rights imo

[k9quaint]

Vendors should have FTE messages and starting lines.

[branamil]

Hogging a vendor in a noobie zone is against the Play Nice Policy. You ruined his roleplaying and immersion. AEGIS alliance should be under raid suspension and the items they were recharging should be destroyed.

[Arkanjil]

Item recharging is an excellent feature of the game. It's the only real plat sink in the economy. 100s of thousands of plat are taken out of circulation every week by guilds recharging items. It's also cool that your character is individually more powerful by being part of a guild that does recharges.

Really reckless of AG to do recharges in WC... such a high traffic zone. OP is a dick all the same. It's like knocking a kids ice cream cone out of his hands. Just leave him alone.

This is true...AM goes through ~150k a week in recharges. It’s a great way to drain plat off the server

[LostCause]

do you need a speical WC merchant to recharge??? pretty sure all merchants do the same thing lol

don't see the problem either id fucking delete that s hit if someone was talking to me like that.

[Bardp1999]

I applaud OP, the only thing dumber than actual recharges are the dip shits that get ripped off while doing recharges. If only OP would have gotten the Locket of Escape for 11k.

However, this has all been played about before. Much like history P99 is also cicular in nature. Search for something like "TMO rages about Larrikans mask"

[Bardp1999]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85776&highlight=rages

Ok I did the leg work for the lazies

[turbosilk]

This is true...AM goes through ~150k a week in recharges. It’s a great way to drain plat off the server

Its not enough. Still too much plat on the server

[Foxplay]

Its not enough. Still too much plat on the server

A classic problem that original EQ devs really didn't think about aside from minimum costs like peridot's and vendor reagents

Pretty much every modern MMO has this economic problem because the players have the power to create money into the world (kill monsters, sell junk to vendors). This they put in systems to drain off that money. (Horses, armor repairs, etc) however these drains often fail or only effective for a short while with one time large plat drains (like flying mounts in wow expansion)

Constant upkeeps do a far better job at fighting inflation in a video game economy. But then it's a careful balancing act to make it palatable to the players

[fan D]

there are alot of people crying in this thread

step outside your house

[aaezil]

“Its a great way to keep the zerg guild monopolizing the server”

There - fixed that am guys post!

[Jimjam]

A classic problem that original EQ devs really didn't think about aside from minimum costs like peridot's and vendor reagentsI think you aren't giving credit where it's due.

Trade skills are a huge plat sink. There are vendor purchased weapons and armour that are big plat sinks too. In vanilla these were actually 'reasonable'. The problem being competing looted items may have been slightly too common, which was compounded further by the quality of items available from the temple of sol ro, planes and kunark items.

The market is now flooded with half decent looted items available to players very cheaply, and these looted items vendor reasonably well. This means few people are using store bought or tradeskilled armour to remove plat from the economy, and dropped items which aren't used are vendored, adding plat into the economy.

[Legidias]

Should make velious gems only available from merchants for stupid prices.

[beargryllz]

This is the greatest thread in human history

[LazyHydras]

It seems like there are a scant few of us who don't see any problem with this. Why would do recharging in a heavily trafficked area at all? I can think of a few places (but won't give them away) that make MUCH more sense than a WC vendor. . .

[Utmost]

I get it OP. The chance at past packets of death glories are hard to pass up.

[Legidias]

Do recharges at the cat fort in stonebrunt. Possibly the most remote merchant?

[aaezil]

Do recharges at the cat fort in stonebrunt. Possibly the most remote merchant?

Yeah its gotta be that or kerra island - that zone could be down for months and nobody would notice

[branamil]

only recharge at the goblin at the bottom of runneye.

[Maliant]

I used to recharge my monk’s items on the merchant in the maze in cab west. Then when my monk got bound in PoM I upgraded to the jovial knights in the basement of PoM.

[shuklak]

Vendors should have FTE messages and starting lines.

Only reasonable thing to do to help curb merchant petitioning.

[matticas]

recharges in WC seems...risky, no?

[enesis]

Better GUARD your items from this BLOODY scoundrel!

p.s. Aegis didn't lose anything.

[America]

where im from, if u recharge ur locket at the corner store, and the next N word get it, that N word get bodied or u a bitch and a N word walk away. and aint no shame in that game except 4 U, the bitch. food for thot

[I Felt Nostalgic]

where im from, if u recharge ur locket at the corner store, and the next N word get it, that N word get bodied or u a bitch and a N word walk away. and aint no shame in that game except 4 U, the bitch. food for thot

https://i.imgur.com/TCz6jeX.gif

[ReadOnly]

where im from, if u recharge ur locket at the corner store, and the next N word get it, that N word get bodied or u a bitch and a N word walk away. and aint no shame in that game except 4 U, the bitch. food for thot

Is using the phrase "the N word" now an acceptable alternative to to actually using that word? It's obvious what he means, he's using the phrase "the N word" to substitute the actual word. So even in RnF racial slurs are now allowed apparently.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Is using the phrase "the N word" now an acceptable alternative to to actually using that word? It's obvious what he means, he's using the phrase "the N word" to substitute the actual word. So even in RnF racial slurs are now allowed apparently.

Why not? We got a dude hating on whites and jews in a different thread.

[America]

Is using the phrase "the N word" now an acceptable alternative to to actually using that word? It's obvious what he means, he's using the phrase "the N word" to substitute the actual word. So even in RnF racial slurs are now allowed apparently.

My pronouns are she and her.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Couple erudite fire giants in here

[Bboboo]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE