Might need to remove "Classic" from the front page.

[Hyjalx]

Way to give the finger to your player and FAN bases loyalty.

Any guild worth their stones wont touch a single dragon in ToV.

By the time you realize your decision, it'll be too late because you just fucked your fanbase.

Keep your dragons

[Solist]

Whaat?

Like 10-15% of the server are into this dragon killing shit. If everyone who partakes in ToV currently (outside of HoT) was wiped from existence, it would make a negligable impact on P1999. Even a favorable one it could be argued.

P99 Grey. No raid content. Go.

[Ruhtar]

Can you please leave for good this time?

Also, news flash, there are plenty of things "not classic" on the server already. Get over it.

[loramin]

Man, someone has issues. But also, rotations *were* classic. I'm too lazy to dig it up, but we've had this discussion before, and people posted in-era evidence of GMs on certain servers rotating stuff like Vox and Nagafen.

The thing is, every server's GMs handled things differently, so many people are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that there were no rotations in classic, because their server didn't have any. But again if you dig up (one of) the many previous threads about this topic, you can find clear proof that on some servers rotations absolutely happened.

[Jauna]

I am starting to think some people forget what classic is and try to use it as an insult for stuff they do not like. Forced rotations are classic as fuck. I did not save any "classic not classic" reaction images from my 8 or so years here but if anyone has the one with the cat and the skateboard that would be great, thanks.

[loramin]

I am starting to think some people forget what classic is and try to use it as an insult for stuff they do not like. Forced rotations are classic as fuck. I did not save any "classic not classic" reaction images from my 8 or so years here but if anyone has the one with the cat and the skateboard that would be great, thanks.

Thank you Jauna! I think this cartoon (along with the key "copyright 2001" at the bottom) makes this even better evidence than any other text-based proof I could find.

[hobart]

Any guild worth their stones wont touch a single dragon in ToV.

So, Lord Bob to ToV then?

[fan D]

u r mad and no1 cares

[PL_Barton]

Way to give the finger to your player and FAN bases loyalty.

Any guild worth their stones wont touch a single dragon in ToV.

By the time you realize your decision, it'll be too late because you just fucked your fanbase.

Keep your dragons

Shut up Hyjal, go back to dumpster diving somewhere out of the vicinity of P99.

[aaezil]

You are really dumb - none of how the raid scene operates here is like how classic was. Did you even raid in classic? I'm betting you didn't.

[Vianna]

Whaat?

Like 10-15% of the server are into this dragon killing shit. If everyone who partakes in ToV currently (outside of HoT) was wiped from existence, it would make a negligable impact on P1999. Even a favorable one it could be argued.

P99 Grey. No raid content. Go.


Way off.

[Molitoth]

Rotations are def classic.
I especially remember Ragefire/Naggy and PoF/PoH rotations on Tribunal.

[Prostatus]

Rotations are def classic.
I especially remember Ragefire/Naggy and PoF/PoH rotations on Tribunal.

GM enforced or player made agreements?

[Robbintha Hood]

GM enforced or player made agreements?

GM enforced rotations on The Rathe, iirc.

[Molitoth]

GM enforced or player made agreements?

GM enforced.

[Hashed]

LOL "classic" is crawling ToV like a boss. ZL pulls are not and never were classic (read the plethora of forum posts and strategy discussions available) QQ RIP skillless zerg. Pulling to ZL and training other guilds is not "competition". Your argument is hugely flawed

[Fifield]

The whole classic arguement doesnt really hold anywhere, each server on live had its own rules and some had rotations some didn't.

The best classic part of p99 is the leveling process. Raiding here was its own beast but with rotations it will be just like any other server. (cept on repops?)

[aaezil]

How does the classic argument not hold water when the entire point of this box is to emulate classic eq. Man i cant believe i have to even explain this.

[derpcake2]

i like how OP has spent countless hours in shitcountry, only now to realise he's up nosedeep in shit

keep peddling

[planarity]

My live server had no rotations of any kind in this era

[Ezrick]

Way to give the finger to your player and FAN bases loyalty.

Any guild worth their stones wont touch a single dragon in ToV.

By the time you realize your decision, it'll be too late because you just fucked your fanbase.

Keep your dragons

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. An enforced rotation is a thousand times more "classic" than FTE.

There were only 2-3 (much smaller) guilds on each server doing this content on live post-Velious and pre-Luclin and they all had gentlemens' agreements between them not to be total assholes. Our server most definitely did and we stayed out of each others way with no problems at all. The only difference here is that the server management has to enforce it because of the incredible asshole quotient on P99.

As much as I hate the dumbasses who jump into every thread trying to get victims for the red server I always wonder why the people with the mindset to micro-manage every posted rule to try to fuck each other over content in a game aren't really exactly the type of people they're looking for.

Look on the raid forums if you don't believe me. Whats the first post there in response to this new rule?

Yep, Aftermath is already lawerying-up.

[Hyjalx]

The entire point of making this server was to emulate live classic progression. Gearing up is part of that progression and is vital to the games longevity. Why does anyone need to explain this.

We all visited the Afterlife, Fires of Heaven, Legacy of Steel, Pandemonium, Darkwind, Club Fu, Triton, and a few other websites/forums growing up. Reading the front page news, and drooling over magelos. It's what made this game unique.

Nobody was going to the rotated servers pages. Because it didnt happen. When EQ tried to become something it was NOT (which was to be like WoW), it failed.

Successful servers were competitive. You had to earn it. If you played this game before it turned to shit, YOU would know.

It killed the game.


(TLTR, but Bristlebane and p99 played out the eerily similar)


Acarer. 60 enchanter. Raid leader/Officer of Club Fu, Bristlebane server. The guild was lead by a team of us. Pouty (guild lead) Qwenya, Songwind, Kapp, Tulkor, myself, and a few others... from the start of Kunark to start of PoP.

A guild named Arch Overseers (euro) started coming into their own just before Luclin. Ring of Valor was making a strong push.

Patch day, was early AM EST. We were PST. AO only kept it to HoT, but then slowly moved north as they grew. I remember their first Ikitar and eashan kills (I knew we were in trouble). Both guilds went at it for years prior and after. AO started in HoT and progressed. Neither guild was cordial...

When Arch overseers started wiping out everything before we even woke up, we woke Sleeper.

It was a mad dash on Luclin release for SSRA. We dropped Emp first, fought over horrible key pieces, but found Vex Thal to be quite humbling (who remembers 4am blob fights, yikes).

Club Fu started from an Internet Cafe in California. There were no rotations on any successful server that anyone would try to emulate.


It killed the game.

[Hyjalx]

I'm reading a lot of opinions, but not a single person can give any detail to their babble.

All I hear is people saying rotations worked! We stayed out of each others way! (The game was dying folks)

Before Luclin, name ONE rotation guild that anyone gave a damn about or wanted to emulate.


WoW has weekly instanced gaming. Enjoy the instanced ToV once every 4 months... (9+ guilds on that list, GL)

[lifewater]

Its fine now, everything is ok, AM gets the dragons, and competition is restored.

[Hyjalx]

Thank you Rogean and Nilbog.


Please think long and hard before you change the game. This is a server to be proud of.