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Reubin
03-31-2011, 04:56 PM
Mods feel free to close this if it has already been discussed, but I did a quick search and didn't see it.

I've noticed that when I die I am re spawning with the same amount of mana as when I died. I'm not sure exactly how this mechanic worked in Live EQ, but I'm pretty sure that upon death you either 1) Respawned with NO mana, or 2) Respawned with full mana. I think that it was re spawning with full mana, but I could be wrong.

Uthgaard
03-31-2011, 05:05 PM
You using Titanium or SoF?
How did you die?
Does it happen every time you die?

Reubin
03-31-2011, 05:18 PM
Hi, sorry I wasn't more specific. I'm using the Titanium client. Each time I've noticed the behavior I have been playing my Enchanter Jerron. The first time I noticed it was in Oasis hunting crocs. It was a straight melee death. I was bound outside the zone in NRo. I was almost OOM when I died...probably under 30 mana because I didn't have enough to cast Root. When I respawned in NRo I had the same empty mana bar...maybe 30-40 mana total. I noticed the discrepancy later that day when I got squashed by a sand giant and died while I was FM, again another melee death. I respawned in the same spot from before in NRo and this time I was FM.

I just noticed it again when I died in East Karana. I was fighting an Evil Eye and several other mobs agroed on me at the same time. I was dotted as well as being meleed so I'm not sure exactly what killed me. I was again below 30 or 40 total mana when I died. I was bound in the same zone I died in (East Karana) and when I respawned I was around 40 mana.

(when I say 30 or 40 mana I mean TOTAL mana...not as a percentage of my full mana pool)

Azmere
03-31-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm also using Titanium Client and have died and found myself with the same ammount of mana I died with. I've also died and came back with full from 50% or so. It's happened a number of times and i specifically recall it happening when i die in Lguk.

vossiewulf
03-31-2011, 05:34 PM
Ditto, using Titanium, when I die I respawn with whatever mana I had when I died. I too thought this was odd, as I remembered being respawned in classic with full mana, but had decided maybe I was remembering incorrectly.

It's 100% consistent for me, whatever I have when I die is what I have when I respawn.

Uthgaard
03-31-2011, 05:50 PM
Is this a relatively recent issue? Today is the first time I recall getting a petition about this as well.

Lazortag
03-31-2011, 05:53 PM
This problem has been around for a while. I thought the devs were aware. Happens to Bards too, not just normal casters.

Uthgaard
03-31-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm aware that it will happen if you die and don't lose experience (dot after zoning, etc) and the server considers it a duel death. But wasn't aware of it on a consistent basis from PVE deaths that caused experience loss.

vossiewulf
03-31-2011, 07:13 PM
My 12 pally has this, as well as my 10 necro. I just noticed it on pally a few days ago, but I can't say whether that was the first time it happened or whether I didn't notice it before.

Reubin
03-31-2011, 08:45 PM
Is this a relatively recent issue? Today is the first time I recall getting a petition about this as well.

To be honest I'm not sure. I THINK it may be recent because I just started noticing it the other day...since Kunark came out. But it could have been happening for a while and I just never noticed it. I have a feeling I would have noticed it before if it was happening. I leveled a Wizard to 40 before really playing my Enchanter much and I died on the Wizard several times and never noticed I had to med before I could rebuff/invis after dying.

Uriella
03-31-2011, 08:57 PM
I can confirm this. For some reason I didnt think much of it till i saw this post, but im definately spawning with the same mana left as before death.

guineapig
03-31-2011, 09:07 PM
It was something that was happening in the server's infancy which was later fixed. It's possible that a certain fix rebroke this. But yeah, this was a bug a long time ago.

williestargell
03-31-2011, 09:52 PM
every death since i started playing has been like this. i thought it was intended

Yinaltin
03-31-2011, 10:04 PM
every death since oct 2010 . we had a conversation about that topic in guild shortly befor i went mia . so AT LEAST since that time you reappear with same mana after a death .

Norsegryphon
03-31-2011, 11:53 PM
yeah im having this issue with my necro, i was chased down bu 9 skellies and kobolds in toxx, 4% mana when i took my dirt nap, pop back up in paineel and im still at 4%. happened about 12min ago >.<

Cethin
04-01-2011, 12:35 AM
I have had this happen for every death I've encountered since level 1. I started P99 in the beginning of March with this occurring. Even with deaths that should not result in a loss of experience (Below level 5 I believe?) I die with the same amount of mana which I had prior to dying.

To be honest, I do not remember how it was during live. I could remember dying then sitting with my spellbook open for an amount of time memorizing spells and medding for a little bit. I've grown to expect the mana staying the same before and after death so it's not an issue, however it would be amazing if I died and came back to my bind point with full mana.

Lentanlio
04-01-2011, 04:08 PM
I've seen this for months. It doesn't happen all the time. I repop with less than full mana a little less than half my character's deaths. Most if not all of them were xp losses.

vossiewulf
04-02-2011, 08:26 PM
I didn't see this on patch notes, but just died with necro who was lom and respawned fom. Was this fixed?