Question to GMs: Timorous Deep binding - Divergance from Original Timeline

[Eccezan]

GM's/Server Community:

First I would like to say thank you for all the work you are doing with the server. If it wasn't for the devs of the server, and other's who are playing the server I personally wouldn't be playing any MMORPG.
I did have a question that has been brought up to by many members of my guild and I didn't have an answer for them. I was hoping to reach out and get a public answer on this forum.

As many know, on live, the period of being able to bind in Timorous Deep was 4 days from Kunark release. My question is, why have the dev's decided to move away from the original timeline in this aspect, when in so many other cases Dev's have mentioned that they are striving to stay as close to the timeline as possible?

As of today, the window has been extended to 6 days at least. I understand that in some cases, with no documentation, the timeline's need to be adjusted to the best estimate, but with this particular aspect its quite clear. The bind period should really have ended 4 days after launch.

Any response would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Eccezan HEDS
Officer of TMO

[Chrushev]

Kunark came out 6 months after original launch on live. Here it took nearly 2 years. So when it comes to timing things, I would at least quadruple all the times :)

[baalzy]

My guess would be, the devs have real lives and real jobs outside of stuff here and are working on other things which have a larger effect on peoples game play.

[Nuggie]

That's funny you bring this up hours after your guild loses the camp. Just saying.

[senna]

LOL!!

reading this thread after the TMO losing locket camp is fucking amazing

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Kunark came out 6 months after original launch on live. Here it took nearly 2 years. So when it comes to timing things, I would at least quadruple all the times :)

EQ launch = March 16th, 1999
Kunark launch = April 24th, 2000

P1999 launch = Oct 2009
P1999 Kunark = March 2011

[guineapig]

Kunark came out 6 months after original launch on live. Here it took nearly 2 years. So when it comes to timing things, I would at least quadruple all the times :)

WHAT?

16th of March, 1999 = Classic launch
XX of March, 2000 = Kunark launch

Seems like a full year to me.

[Bruuce]

roflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl

[Vonkaar]

Verant = multi-million dollar enterprise with full-time (read: paid) teams of project managers, developers, customer-support (lol), testers, artists, database admins, actors, engineers and system administrators and eventually the financial backing of an online juggernaut hell bent on taking over the MMO landscape. Server hardware is brand-new, network is tier-1 in redundant datacenters and supported by 24/7 staff. Changes are planned months in advance and executed after careful testing.

Project 1999 = a small group of talented guys with (mostly) normal lives and changing priorities. Nobody earns a dime for their efforts. Servers are either refurbished or cobbled together out of donated parts & funds. There's nooooo freaking way that the monthly donations get anywhere near to covering the cost of upkeep & hosting. Blahblahblah... P1999 is obviously a smaller enterprise.

For fuck's sake... these guys are basically putting in a 2nd full time job as a 'hobby' so 1500 strangers can enjoy a bit of nostalgia. And you have the nerve to come and 'inquire' about a 'delay' in historical accuracy? Good God man.

[stonebeard22]

Honestly I would hope they would leave it open for a couple more days and GM bind any melee that wanted to be bound there. To prove a point to you a$$hats.

[Frieza_Prexus]

It will be done when it is done.

Eccezan, I understand where you're going, but I'm not certain this is helpful.

The GMs have enough on their plate at the moment, and I don't think we should be tugging at their sleeve right now.

I would suggest that you request the thread be deleted or locked.

-Xasten, TMO

[Pico]

"post droga concerns"

Hahahaha

[Massive Marc]

Dev's have mentioned that they are striving to stay as close to the timeline as possible?


/thread ?

Edit: We all know what this thread is really about...

[falkun]

reading this thread after the TMO losing locket camp is fucking amazing

For fuck's sake... these guys are basically putting in a 2nd full time job as a 'hobby' so 1500 strangers can enjoy a bit of nostalgia. And you have the nerve to come and 'inquire' about a 'delay' in historical accuracy? Good God man.

/thread

[Massive Marc]

/thread

How dare you 1up my /thread

/thread.

[Blancah]

http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/clap.gif

EL OH EL

[Uthgaard]

This is us, answering to you:

...


You don't see us asking you why you've managed to wipe in both of the level 30 dungeons you're doing progression in, or why one of those camps included an item that - by the time it stops dropping - will have been in the game so long that more of them will have entered the server than shadowknights and necros will ever be created on P99.

Fail on you. You're on our spare time schedule.

[ChairmanMauzer]

Who cares? Honestly? Waaaaaa, Two more days than longer.

[Bruuce]

http://oi56.tinypic.com/2lxjuwh.jpg
lolin so fucking hard.

[Salty]

They best be grindin that plat son.

Where bob the trader at

[Bruno]

http://oi56.tinypic.com/2lxjuwh.jpg
lolin so fucking hard.

They're definitely having a bad week.

[Massive Marc]

I owned you with ease

Me too

pure ownage.

[stonebeard22]

Look at that, spies in TMO... how sad. Your members might be more loyal if you would have let them level other than taking poopsocking to a whole new level.

[Daeminff7]

Lol... this post is really funny to me. I just wanna say thanks to the Dev's/server admins for providing us this server in the first place... free of charge ffs. The best game of all time - free of charge, and you complain about them not nerfing something that your guild has poopsocked in an effort to screw the rest of the server, I guess? I'm new to p1999 but this just seems so fucking lame to me.

You should be bowing down to these guys not demanding that they allow your poopsock plan to go off without a hitch. :) just a noobs opinion of course though so go on with your day now...

[saucer]

Lol... this post is really funny to me. I just wanna say thanks to the Dev's/server admins for providing us this server in the first place... free of charge ffs. The best game of all time - free of charge, and you complain about them not nerfing something that your guild has poopsocked in an effort to screw the rest of the server, I guess? I'm new to p1999 but this just seems so fucking lame to me.

You should be bowing down to these guys not demanding that they allow your poopsock plan to go off without a hitch. :) just a noobs opinion of course though so go on with your day now...

For emphasis

[Bruuce]

http://oi51.tinypic.com/2unyglw.jpg
OTM DALNIR. by careful of those klys bros

the funny thing is that post by zeelot talking about posting from his mysterious forum alt vellshoul. who only has posts in petition section. you 2boxin bro?

[Massive Marc]

Fuck, if I could only find the proper Popcorn gif to suit this thread.

[naez]

man this blue loots competition shit is intense

[naez]

no sarcasm bros get me some popcorn too

[Bruno]

Fuck, if I could only find the proper Popcorn gif to suit this thread.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/kpkenney07/MichealJacksonPopcorn-1.gif

[Massive Marc]

Will go with this one for now.


http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-15-Scary-Movie.gif

[senna]

lol.. it keeps getting better

[Massive Marc]

Black chicks make me laugh

[naez]

Black ppl love they popcorn

[naez]

Black chicks make me laugh

I hope this was a subtle Michael joke

[stonebeard22]

GM Corruption? They helped you get your camp back multiple times when someone else could have snatched it up and you dare to talk shit on them?!? Wow you all are scum.

[Ozudin]

This shits better than days of our lives...

[Ihealyou]

http://picrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/99-trek-problems.jpg

[guineapig]

http://picrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/99-trek-problems.jpg

I must admit, this is a good meme... :D

[Bruno]

Claiming victim after blatantly trying to fuck people out of binding and then having the audacity to make a thread about nerf dates directed towards the Devs is just epic lulz. I hope they never nerf it.

[Massive Marc]

No Damage control ? No Long post justifying actions ? Fuck me, I got out the popcorn gif and everything. Come on TMO entertain me for the next 2hours.

[naez]

The mystical order sounds like some harry potter ass shit

[stonebeard22]

No Damage control ? No Long post justifying actions ? Fuck me, I got out the popcorn gif and everything. Come on TMO entertain me for the next 2hours.

They are still doing their CR from their wipe in Droga... No Time to post...

[Bruuce]

nah theyre in vent trying to figure out how to save face and what to do about their breach of security. dont worry bros im starting to get bored

[Daldolma]

Does this honestly shock anyone? 80% of the players I've encountered in game that have just astonished me with their idiocy have been TMO members. People like to bash TR and Fusion, but at least the vast majority of them know what they're doing in-game.

[stonebeard22]

Bruuce give us a couple more goodies...

[Massive Marc]

nah theyre in vent trying to figure out how to save face and what to do about their breach of security. dont worry bros im starting to get bored

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xqU8aCV8ADc/TPZECXcvlWI/AAAAAAAAAaw/mKE8b433btI/s1600/comp-rage.jpg

[Hobby]

I let TMO keep their camp last night after being told they left it and were pet-camping it.



Darn me for being corrupt.

[Bruuce]

theres really not much more thats relevant. just a bunch of crying and whining about how gms are stupid, vd sucks ect. shoulda let them post a little more before i unleashed the inside infoz but i was bored now

[Massive Marc]

record to .mp3
post
profit.

[Bruuce]

already in the works. will be posted soon @ www.wikileaks.org/bruucefromeq/tmoinsideinfoz/www.creedthoughts/nerdrage.mp3

[stonebeard22]

OMG, I cannot wait for this!

[twolo]

already in the works. will be posted soon @ www.wikileaks.org/bruucefromeq/tmoinsideinfoz/www.creedthoughts/nerdrage.mp3

OH SNAP!!

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss107/kpkenney07/MichealJacksonPopcorn-1.gif

http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-15-Scary-Movie.gif

[Ozudin]

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5!

[Bruuce]

copy link location. paste in browser. was jk sry to get ur hopes up there wont be an mp3 of their vent. i cant get in there vent without being noticed and my mole wasnt prepared for recording anything

[stonebeard22]

Ok, well if you cannot do that, lets all join a vent and just record a fake one!

[Bruuce]

why didnt i think of that

[lyyfeleech]

This is us, answering to you:

...


You don't see us asking you why you've managed to wipe in both of the level 30 dungeons you're doing progression in, or why one of those camps included an item that - by the time it stops dropping - will have been in the game so long that more of them will have entered the server than shadowknights and necros will ever be created on P99.

Fail on you. You're on our spare time schedule.

God you rock man. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Chanur]

GM's/Server Community:

First I would like to say thank you for all the work you are doing with the server. If it wasn't for the devs of the server, and other's who are playing the server I personally wouldn't be playing any MMORPG.
I did have a question that has been brought up to by many members of my guild and I didn't have an answer for them. I was hoping to reach out and get a public answer on this forum.

As many know, on live, the period of being able to bind in Timorous Deep was 4 days from Kunark release. My question is, why have the dev's decided to move away from the original timeline in this aspect, when in so many other cases Dev's have mentioned that they are striving to stay as close to the timeline as possible?

As of today, the window has been extended to 6 days at least. I understand that in some cases, with no documentation, the timeline's need to be adjusted to the best estimate, but with this particular aspect its quite clear. The bind period should really have ended 4 days after launch.

Any response would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Eccezan HEDS
Officer of TMO


Probably because your guild is full of a bunch of sneaky little douche's that are trying to monopolize the ability and they don't want you too.

[Vendar]

so much retard all over this thread so i will tread carefully.

the plan was to try and get our melees bound via locket in TD before the 4 days was up. there was no intention of cockblocking all you retarded QQing impatient 5yr old mentality asshats (ie: all the people which have left their tears on this thread) that could have gotten to it first. why would we let you loot something the guild is camping outta need, and still needs, before all our melees had it? that's just retarded as well as bad guild policy. people that weren't dicks, and spoke to us like grown ups instead of bratty children got spots in line for helping hold down the camps /gasp!

so whatever, go ahead and make shit up, go ahead and talk shit. go ahead and QQ all over the forums about TMO because you know what? that shit doesn't matter, and anyone that would take your word for it instead of finding out for themselves what kinda people we are deserves to be misinformed imo.


have a nice day.
<3



oh and PS. just another example of a situation that could be settled with PvP, or at the very least /guildwar

PPS. has /guildwar ever worked in the 12 year history of EQ?

[hedbonker]

why would we let you loot something the guild is camping outta need, and still needs, before all our melees had it?

There is a difference between need and want...

[lyyfeleech]

so much retard all over this thread so i will tread carefully.

the plan was to try and get our melees bound via locket in TD before the 4 days was up. there was no intention of cockblocking all you retarded QQing impatient 5yr old mentality asshats (ie: all the people which have left their tears on this thread) that could have gotten to it first. why would we let you loot something the guild is camping outta need, and still needs, before all our melees had it? that's just retarded as well as bad guild policy. people that weren't dicks, and spoke to us like grown ups instead of bratty children got spots in line for helping hold down the camps /gasp!

so whatever, go ahead and make shit up, go ahead and talk shit. go ahead and QQ all over the forums about TMO because you know what? that shit doesn't matter, and anyone that would take your word for it instead of finding out for themselves what kinda people we are deserves to be misinformed imo.


have a nice day.
<3



oh and PS. just another example of a situation that could be settled with PvP, or at the very least /guildwar

PPS. has /guildwar ever worked in the 12 year history of EQ?

Ummm you wiped to lvl 30 mobs.....maybe you should leave the lvl 50+ players alone before you REALLY get humiliated

[naez]

There is a difference between need and want...

hedbonker i fell for your avatar

[Vendar]

Ummm you wiped to lvl 30 mobs.....maybe you should leave the lvl 50+ players alone before you REALLY get humiliated

um I did not wipe to lvl 30 mobs, maybe you should buy a fucking clue, or maybe you should just put your helmet back on before you get hurt.

now take 5 seconds to actually read what i wrote since you were so quick to quote it douche bag. but thank you for clearing up exactly which type of people i was describing with you retarded QQing impatient 5yr old mentality asshats (ie: all the people which have left their tears on this thread)

Have a super day, super pal!

[Vendar]

There is a difference between need and want...

you're right. and that being said, i stand by my usage of the word ''need''

[hedbonker]

hedbonker i fell for your avatar

One of many :)

[Bruno]

so much retard all over this thread so i will tread carefully.

the plan was to try and get our melees bound via locket in TD before the 4 days was up. there was no intention of cockblocking all you retarded QQing impatient 5yr old mentality asshats (ie: all the people which have left their tears on this thread) that could have gotten to it first. why would we let you loot something the guild is camping outta need, and still needs, before all our melees had it? that's just retarded as well as bad guild policy. people that weren't dicks, and spoke to us like grown ups instead of bratty children got spots in line for helping hold down the camps /gasp!

so whatever, go ahead and make shit up, go ahead and talk shit. go ahead and QQ all over the forums about TMO because you know what? that shit doesn't matter, and anyone that would take your word for it instead of finding out for themselves what kinda people we are deserves to be misinformed imo.


have a nice day.
<3



oh and PS. just another example of a situation that could be settled with PvP, or at the very least /guildwar

PPS. has /guildwar ever worked in the 12 year history of EQ?

So you're saying it doesn't look highly suspicious that there were two threads posted by a member in your guild about when the binds were going to cease at the pot room. :rolleyes:

[hedbonker]

You can add Rogean to that list :)

[Mardur]

Vendar bro,

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5wkMFMMQMAc/TKFtM9W9_DI/AAAAAAAAChU/tlHaan4NNoU/s1600/digging+a+hole.jpg

[Vendar]

Vendar bro,

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5wkMFMMQMAc/TKFtM9W9_DI/AAAAAAAAChU/tlHaan4NNoU/s1600/digging+a+hole.jpg

all i see is a guy doing work son ;)

[hedbonker]

you're right. and that being said, i stand by my usage of the word ''need''

What you "need" is to get up out of the chair in front of the computer. You need to empty that piss jar anyway. We'll know when you get up and swing that ass around because the tides will shift. Now go into the bathroom and take a long look at yourself in the mirror and remember: The only thing attracted to you is gravity.

[Vendar]

bro, you dont drink your pee jars? doesnt that just waste more time getting up to get a drink? /confused.

[Massive Marc]

um I did not wipe to lvl 30 mobs, maybe you should buy a fucking clue, or maybe you should just put your helmet back on before you get hurt.

You don't see us asking you why you've managed to wipe in both of the level 30 dungeons you're doing progression in.

/confused

[twolo]

All right, Ill have to amend my previous statements about never having a positive interaction with a TMO member. Vendar you sound like an alright dude and make me laugh.

[hedbonker]

bro, you dont drink your pee jars? doesnt that just waste more time getting up to get a drink? /confused.

Good to see a sense of humor.

[Chanur]

so much retard all over this thread so i will tread carefully.

so whatever, go ahead and make shit up, go ahead and talk shit. go ahead and QQ all over the forums about TMO because you know what? that shit doesn't matter, and anyone that would take your word for it instead of finding out for themselves what kinda people we are deserves to be misinformed imo.



You are right about one thing, there is a whole lot of retard in this thread. Luckily they are easily identifiable by The Mystic Order over their head.

As for what kind of people you are...we already know...we can see you being retarded dipshits all over your forums. Thanks for reminding us though.;)

[Kazowi]

lol @ blue competition. At least on a red server you always have the ability to go in a zone and clean house to stake rights for your guild.

[Tiggles]

TMO should rebrand imo.

I wonder if "Dark Ascension" is available

[Zeelot]

TMO for life ;)

[YendorLootmonkey]

I laughed so hard at this thread at work, I got fired. And I work at a company that makes laugh tracks for sitcoms. :(

[Psionide]

I'm not even in TMO but this shit is a little overblown now. Lolz at retagging over this shit.

[naez]

lol they retagged?

i was jk'ing bros when I said it sounded like some harry potter ass shit got damn

[Bruuce]

there was no intention of cockblocking all you retarded QQing impatient 5yr old mentality asshats (ie: all the people which have left their tears on this thread) that could have gotten to it first.

[Thu Mar 31 11:06:43 2011] Phisting tells the guild, 'If they don't close down binding in TD its ridic'
[Thu Mar 31 11:07:08 2011] Corrodith tells the guild, 'do we want it closed? don't we still have more people to bind there?'
[Thu Mar 31 11:07:35 2011] Alarti tells the guild, 'we want ti closed'
[Thu Mar 31 11:14:52 2011] Tejin tells the guild, 'TBH i think its lame we are concerned with poopsocking/locking anyone else out of content. but i can understand the frustration given the fact it has been done to us for all of classic.'

its funny with all the talk of 'bruuce why you so mad' or 'bruuce qq' i still keep getting sent logs and pics of shit like this.

http://net4baby.com/baby/images/stories/main/crying_baby.jpg

[Bruuce]

and funny that some of your own members know and admit that not only are you intentionally trying to keep people from getting bound at firepots/abusing shady mechanics to keep camps from other guild, but are sick of it. tmo for life? seems like some of your members are feeling differently

[Pico]

The only thing attracted to you is gravity.

that doesn't actually make any sense

[Kazowi]

bluebies

[Tiggles]

Some Wikileaks shit going on in this thread

[Psionide]

no I meant it was funny someone mentioned they should retag over something so stupid.

[Hasaan]

The best part of these threads is watching Bruuce cry like a fucking baby all the time haha.



- THE GREAT HASAAN ALLAH.

[Rais]

I just saw
[Thu Mar 31 11:14:52 2011] Tejin tells the guild, 'TBH i think its lame we are concerned with poopsocking/locking anyone else out of content. but i can understand the frustration given the fact it has been done to us for all of classic.'

Lets look close...

TBH...


The Black Hand has struck again!

[Odeseus]

I know this is a bit off topic, but can the lockets be recharged at all? Like I know some items get recharged if you sell them to a vendor or something like that.

[hedbonker]

that doesn't actually make any sense

Wow! Really?

[Hasbinbad]

that doesn't actually make any sense
Chewbacca is a Wookie. Wookies are from Kashyyk.

[Hasbinbad]

Chewbacca is a Wookie. Wookies are from Kashyyk.
http://www.teamteabag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0330chewbacca.jpg

[naez]

some1 batphone TMO tell them its easier to lock ppl out of content when you can pk them

[Bruuce]

im unsure how poopsocking locket would somehow prevent people with messing with them in dalnir :confused:

[Harrison]

You know you're sad when you stalk an entire guild to the extents you are doing now.

You make fun of them for "poopsocking" but you're camping their vent, "getting info from moles", etc.

A. One group of people is playing the game to gain items for utility and beat other groups of people from locking THEM out of the camp(Read: WINNING).
B. One person(and arguably a group of people as well, but not to the extent that kid is...) is butthurt they got beat to the item, and stalks the whole guild now, to disturbing levels.

Which is worse?

P.S. I haven't touched Kunark after the first night of launch, either. I'm sure Uthgaard being the awesome and amazing GM he is(lol) can confirm this if he wants to.

[Chanur]

Are you apping to TMO fatty I mean Harrison?

[naez]

I let TMO keep their camp last night after being told they left it and were pet-camping it.



Darn me for being corrupt.

Puma 100% legit

[Harrison]

Are you apping to TMO fatty I mean Harrison?

Maybe you forgot to read the last part of my post in your haste to prove your stupidity rather than the implication most of us have gotten from your posts thus far.

I haven't touched Kunark. With the state of the game now and my dwindling free time from work/life, I doubt I will end up doing so.

P.S. I'm short, fat, balding, inbred, and ummm...oh yeah, a virgin. There, you can spend more time fingerpainting and less time looking for more stereotypical childish retorts used on the internet for nearly 20 years. Don't bother taking off the helmet to scratch your head for a response. I covered it for you.

[dredge]

A. One group of people is playing the game to gain items for utility and beat other groups of people from locking THEM out of the camp(Read: WINNING).


That is the wrong attitude, there is no winning EQ, the point is to group, make friends and have fun

[Harrison]

That is a matter of perspective and opinion.

Different people play for different reasons.

[naez]

I've won EverQuest 9k+ times

[yaaaflow]

Are you embarassed that your characters are in TMO finawin? why are you skirting the issue when the dude asked?

[Harrison]

I'm embarrassed of nothing. It isn't some superbig secret where my characters are.

That troglodyte obviously didn't stand on his hind legs long enough to think before he spewed on his keyboard with his fists.

[Harrison]

That is also irrelevant.

[Chanur]

That is also irrelevant.

So I will assume yes you were applying before you took the last few days off. In short eat a dick.

[Harrison]

Lol you are so definitely mad, kid.

[Ronas]

Was wondering with this thing you were planning. Whats the point of a melee being bounded there when they cant gate unless they buy a costly pot or random gate item. I mean when they die even if they weren't bounded at the pots they are bounded in a city. Only thing i can think of is that then can run back to there corpse anywhere, with the random chance of getting pwned by fayd. (Auto tracker, fay up i just got killed)

[Felizcat]

That is a matter of perspective and opinion.

Different people play for different reasons.

Yep. Some play for the pure joy of asshatery

[Daldolma]

So, uh -- is nobody going to remark upon the fact that 'divergence' is misspelled in the title? I feel like that should've been mentioned by Page 11.

And TMO, you should really stop defending yourselves. Stop drawing attention to yourselves. Nobody is butthurt -- people are laughing at you. Just hope people forget in a week or two. The more you bump this thread, and the more you try to sell CoS's for 100k+, the more everyone not in TMO is going to think you're a joke.

When you just spent a week camping the fat chick of Kunark camps, don't go waving her panties around in the air.

[Chanur]

Lol you are so definitely mad, kid.

I'm not mad fatty, just enjoying watching you be a retard. :D

[Shannacore]

I bound there earlier, feel free to take it away now!

[xshayla701]

That is also irrelevant.

http://www.dweebist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/elephant2-480x356.jpg

I just wanted to post this picture :)

[Hasbinbad]

http://www.dweebist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/elephant2-480x356.jpg

I just wanted to post this picture :)
That is an awesome picture.

[Harrison]

http://www.dweebist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/elephant2-480x356.jpg

I just wanted to post this picture :)

Lol that is awesome

[Bubbles]

When you just spent a week camping the fat chick of Kunark camps, don't go waving her panties around in the air.

Post of the day.

[raptormouse]

Wow, I was wondering if those beloved doucher guilds would make an emergence in p99 to attempt to ruin the game for the majority that are actually playing because of their nostalgia and love of EQ. And it looks like there are, and now we know... and knowing is half the battle!

*enter Fensler Films G.I. Joe chant*

[Lady_Omelia]

"When you just spent a week camping the fat chick of Kunark camps, don't go waving her panties around in the air."

That came close to making me pee my pants.

[Psionide]

and now these other guilds jump into bed with the fat chick???