Can anything be done..

[poofph]

Yes I am aware that I am the idiot for trying to transfer an item from one character to another by placing it on the ground.. but I did it. I placed my Guantlets of Fiery Might on the ground, sat on the bag on the ground and logged out, immediately logged back in and they were gone, only person there was Cained who was eager to "help" me find them. Of course they were not there. After a few minutes I logged out suspecting him to be the person who may of taken them and logged another character on, went to Cained and inspected him, all his gear is bad except, you guessed it.. Gauntlets of Fiery Might he is wearing.. He claims some person ran into highhold and told his group to random and he won them.. maybe true, maybe not, but the evidence shows otherwise imo.

Anything can be done to see if those are in fact my gloves? Even if they are can anything be done?

I already know I am going to get tons of replies that I am the idiot, i deserve it yada yada.. I get it, was not a smart idea, your wisdom has been noted.

[Sizar]

I've grouped with Cained a few times. Seemed like a pretty chill dude. If he did indeed do this that would be disappointing. Ya bad decision but I feel for ya

[d3r14k]

I have an open petition for this same thing except my items rotted when I disconnected logging back in. There are drop logs GMs can look at, but as far as a petition goes, mine has been sitting in the queue for 2 or 3 weeks so I can't really give any insight to how it is handled.

Get your friends to xfer for you. I have trusted the ground many times, but it only takes one time for it to bite you.

[poofph]

I've grouped with Cained a few times. Seemed like a pretty chill dude. If he did indeed do this that would be disappointing. Ya bad decision but I feel for ya


yeah, he swore up and down he did not take them.. he was trying to act very cool.. and even said he was streaming on twitch while this was going and everyone watching was laughing at me, of course I search all of twitch for everquest and p99 streams, there were 4, none of which were him.. so there is that too.

[poofph]

I have an open petition for this same thing except my items rotted when I disconnected logging back in. There are drop logs GMs can look at, but as far as a petition goes, mine has been sitting in the queue for 2 or 3 weeks so I can't really give any insight to how it is handled.

Get your friends to xfer for you. I have trusted the ground many times, but it only takes one time for it to bite you.

Petition in game or on forums? I did one in game but not sure if that one works?
This is the first time I have transferred on the ground, I am guessing the last too lol.

[ScaringChildren]

Doubt you'll get much help, man.

For future reference, if you can't find guildies to help transfer for you, plenty of Dial a Port members will do it. Just tip for their services.

Also, that guy totally took your stuff.

Maybe justice lies in making a Rants and Flames post about him...it'll at least be therapeutic.

[poofph]

Doubt you'll get much help, man.

For future reference, if you can't find guildies to help transfer for you. Plenty of Dial a Port members will do it. Just tip for their services.

Also, that guy totally took your stuff.

Maybe justice lies in making a Rants and Flames post about him...it'll at least be therapeutic.

lol yeah, I am pretty confident he took them, lesson learned I guess.. sigh.. those gloves were over 3k.. that stings so much lol.

[Baylan295]

I have an open petition for this same thing except my items rotted when I disconnected logging back in. There are drop logs GMs can look at, but as far as a petition goes, mine has been sitting in the queue for 2 or 3 weeks so I can't really give any insight to how it is handled.

Get your friends to xfer for you. I have trusted the ground many times, but it only takes one time for it to bite you.

I had an accidental drop and loss (my client froze) get queue up for a Guide with drop log powers to take a look at it yesterday after sitting for 2-3 weeks, so have no fear, it just takes time.

[d3r14k]

Petition in game or on forums? I did one in game but not sure if that one works

I did both. Originally in game and then directed to make a forum petition in the appropriate section.

[poofph]

I did both. Originally in game and then directed to make a forum petition in the appropriate section.

okay, I will put one on the forums also.. how do you do a guide petition in game? is that live help?

[ScaringChildren]

okay, I will put one on the forums also.. how do you do a guide petition in game? is that live help?

type /petition and then your message

[poofph]

type /petition and then your message

yep did that, thank you :)

[Emerald_keep]

Please for the love of god, ask a level 60 next time. I'd put good money on a Tempest/Aftermath not ruining their reputation over a satchel of gubbins from a lowbie. You can also PM me even, I'm always willing to help. Sorry this happened :(

[loramin]

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you're screwed. The staff has said before (I think a guide even told me this in-game actually) that if you drop transfer and it never gets picked up that they can potentially recover the item by checking logs ... but if someone else picked it up then you effectively gave it to that person, and there's nothing they can do.

Think of it this way: you drop a fungi on the ground and a "stranger" picks it up ... a stranger who, for all the staff knows, is your IRL friend. If they re-imburse you, they just cloned a fungi for your friend. Obviously they can't be cloning fungis for people, so as a policy they only reimburse when the item was truly lost from the server.

If it makes you feel any better (and I doubt it does) myself and others here have lost more than 3k in items. Think of it as motivation to be super paranoid and find a really obscure place to transfer next time.

[Jimjam]

If you /petition they will name and shame* who picked them up (if anyone). Do note you lose ownership of the item once you place it on the ground so it will not be restored to you.

I learnt this the hard way after killing Grachnist the Destroyer and trying to drop transfer loot to an alt. Unlucky for Goatnapper the loot was an unrelated Sarnak Hide Mask, not a shrunken skill earring.

Now I am more established as a player I realise Sarnak Hide Masks are ten-a-penny and I totally wasted poor Braknar's time.

Shame on me, really.

*only name, not shame

[poofph]

Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you're screwed. The staff has said before that if you drop transfer and it never gets picked up that they can potentially recover the item by checking logs ... but if someone else picked it up then you effectively gave it to that person, and there's nothing they can do.

Think of it this way: you drop a fungi on the ground and a "stranger" picks it up ... a stranger who, for all the staff knows, is your IRL friend. If they re-imburse you, they just cloned a fungi for your friend.

If it makes you feel any better (and I doubt it does) myself and others here have lost more than 3k in items. Think of it as motivation to be super paranoid and find a really obscure place to transfer next time.

Yeah figured even if they do see he took them here is not much they can or will do about it.. bummer.. ohh well, lesson learned :/

[Menden]

Please read the sticky (https://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=25)on the petitions / exploits section, clearly states reimbursements are handled there, not in game.

If you want a chance of getting your items back, post there. As long as someone didn't pick up your item(s) a return should be possible. If anything, we can confirm who picked the item(s) up.

It's usually better to find someone in a prominent guild to help you transfer.

[Myke]

Yeah Loramin is right. If the item actually poofed or was destroyed, you can get it back. If the item re-enters the economy, not a chance.

I know this because one time in Guk, I let my rl friend use a fungi. When he tried to give it back, he traded it to a random group member. The guy immediately stood up and gated. Goodby fungi haha. GMs said nothing could be done for above reasons.

Some people just enjoy being assholes. But whatever, I got lots of fungis. In time you’ll have many gauntlets.

[poofph]

Hey, I have an extra pair of these floating around somewhere you can have.

Find me on some character that starts with "Fran" and is Core tagged or PM me here.


Wow thank you, I'll pay you for them though, thank you!

[ScaringChildren]

I let my rl friend use a fungi. When he tried to give it back, he traded it to a random group member.

How to lose a friend in one easy step

[aaezil]

When you drop an item on the ground it at that point stops being "your item"

sorry man

[stebbins99]

Yo! One tip I have for fellow noobs on this--

If you have the ability to see invis/spirit sight, please make sure to do so before initiating your ground transfer. I once thought I had found myself a "sneaky" spot to drop some empty medicine bags for an alt...

Dropped bags, logged out, logged right back in as alt-- bags were gone. Looked around everywhere and wondered if someone stole the empty bags. After 1-2 mins, I then get a creepy tell: "Looking for something?"

Turns out the dude was invisible (behind me), also in the same "sneaky" spot. He gave me the bags back and told me to be careful. Hah the experience sent a chill down my spine

[poofph]

Yo! One tip I have for fellow noobs on this--

If you have the ability to see invis/spirit sight, please make sure to do so before initiating your ground transfer. I once thought I had found myself a "sneaky" spot to drop some empty medicine bags for an alt...

Dropped bags, logged out, logged right back in as alt-- bags were gone. Looked around everywhere and wondered if someone stole the empty bags. After 1-2 mins, I then get a creepy tell: "Looking for something?"

Turns out the dude was invisible (behind me), also in the same "sneaky" spot. He gave me the bags back and told me to be careful. Hah the experience sent a chill down my spine

Lol that's funny, at least they gave you your stuff back!

[ScaringChildren]

Yo! One tip I have for fellow noobs on this--

If you have the ability to see invis/spirit sight, please make sure to do so before initiating your ground transfer. I once thought I had found myself a "sneaky" spot to drop some empty medicine bags for an alt...

Dropped bags, logged out, logged right back in as alt-- bags were gone. Looked around everywhere and wondered if someone stole the empty bags. After 1-2 mins, I then get a creepy tell: "Looking for something?"

Turns out the dude was invisible (behind me), also in the same "sneaky" spot. He gave me the bags back and told me to be careful. Hah the experience sent a chill down my spine

I've caught someone in the act of a ground transfer and did the same thing.

I wasn't invis though.

The guy was doing a ground transfer in a wide open heavy traffic area.

Ground transferring is an art form. The thrill is half the reason I still do it.

[Atmas]

Don't do ground transfers. Such a high chance of something going wrong and wasting a lot of time.

[Venjenz]

And if you do try a ground transfer, make it ground you never see anyone ever going anywhere near, i.e., nowhere near Freeport, Qeynos, etc. But even those two cities do have plenty of out of the way spots for xfers.

Just remember the rule that once you drop it, it isn't yours. Under that rule, where do you feel safe letting something sit for at least 2 minutes, unattended, such that nobody will see or touch it?

[SunDrake]

Please read the sticky (https://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=25)on the petitions / exploits section, clearly states reimbursements are handled there, not in game.

If you want a chance of getting your items back, post there. As long as someone didn't pick up your item(s) a return should be possible. If anything, we can confirm who picked the item(s) up.

It's usually better to find someone in a prominent guild to help you transfer.

I had no idea that this was something GMs would get involved in. Doesn't seem like the best use of their time, by a long shot, but interesting to note.

[ScaringChildren]

And if you do try a ground transfer, make it ground you never see anyone ever going anywhere near, i.e., nowhere near Freeport, Qeynos, etc. But even those two cities do have plenty of out of the way spots for xfers.

Just remember the rule that once you drop it, it isn't yours. Under that rule, where do you feel safe letting something sit for at least 2 minutes, unattended, such that nobody will see or touch it?

I used to do ground transfers in EC.

Stupid, I know.

[stebbins99]

I've caught someone in the act of a ground transfer and did the same thing.

I wasn't invis though.

The guy was doing a ground transfer in a wide open heavy traffic area.

Ground transferring is an art form. The thrill is half the reason I still do it.

Lol that is great! There is certainly a thrill involved, *especially* when you crash to your desktop upon logout. That always happens at a convenient juncture.

Also, how many times have you been walking along + excited to see a little brown bag on the ground-- you pick it up only to discover some discarded/foraged fishing grubs?

[ScaringChildren]

Also, how many times have you been walking along + excited to see a little brown bag on the ground-- you pick it up only to discover some discarded/foraged fishing grubs?

Tons.

I already know it's unwanted forage items but I still do it.

I also look in the tunnel.

A part of me wants to purposely drop items so random people can pick them up but I know chances are some loaded tunnel mule will pick the item up instead.

[loramin]

A part of me wants to purposely drop items so random people can pick them up but I know chances are some loaded tunnel mule will pick the item up instead.

I think the ideal way to do this is to charm some lowbie mob, give them the item, then let charm break. The mob will now have the item, and the next lowbie to kill it (not some tunnel rat) will get it.

[ScaringChildren]

I think the ideal way to do this is to charm some lowbie mob, give them the item, then let charm break. The mob will now have the item, and the next lowbie to kill it (not some tunnel rat) will get it.

Oh, that's a great idea actually.

You know someone would announce getting it over /OOC too

[Rygar]

Whether they give them back to you or not if he in fact picked them up is another matter, but I'm pretty positive any item can be tracked from player to player.

Items, I believe, have hidden ID tags, your item may be:
Gauntlets of Fiery Might_2427

Which means they are the 2,427th pair that has ever dropped. If Cained is wearing this pair, he can't hide. Whether staff would out him or take action I don't know.

Pretty sure tags like that are used to track RMT, handle disputes, etc.

RMT and scamming don't pay kids, don't do it.

[ScaringChildren]

If Cained is wearing this pair, he can't hide.

I want justice.

You have to petition OP and find out the truth.

Then make a RnF post about it.

[White_knight]

I found someone's xfer once. Waitdled till they logged their alt in and got them to confirm what was in the bags before handing them over.

Very thankful person they were.

[White_knight]

Also anyone remember the days you could drop xfer coins??????

[loramin]

Items, I believe, have hidden ID tags, your item may be:
Gauntlets of Fiery Might_2427

Which means they are the 2,427th pair that has ever dropped. If Cained is wearing this pair, he can't hide.

I'm pretty sure this is correct

Whether staff would out him or take action I don't know.
I'm 99% certain they wouldn't. Whether the guy lied about it or not, picking something up off the ground is not against the server rules.

Also anyone remember the days you could drop xfer coins??????

Yup. I think that even might have worked here once, but there was some issue with it (maybe technical, maybe players doing stupid stuff with dropped coins) that made the devs disable it. But it also might just be a Titanium issue which never worked.

[ScaringChildren]

Also anyone remember the days you could drop xfer coins??????

It sounds familiar. I seem to even remember people dropping 1 Copper to mess with people.

Then again that was way back in '99.

[Ravager]

Drop the bag under water and it's less likely to be seen. Otherwise, yeah, if you really are so worried about an item that it's worth wasting a guide's time to maybe recover it, waste a level 60's time instead. Screenshot the xfer request and if they run off with it, they can be punished since scamming is quite frowned upon here.

[Sizar]

Or just ask literally anyone? No one wants to steal your stuff.

Cept maybe Cained (allegedly)

[Busher]

I dropped an EE bag and a Light Burlap Sack with 2 TBB's in it once in Innothule. Positive I know who picked them up, but a gm told me tough luck when I petitioned. This was a couple years ago.
That being said, I've drop transferred lots of stuff, a few times upwards of 20K, and never lost anything else.
Underwater is a good place, and do use see invis first

[NegaStoat]

For the love of God, do NOT try a ground transfer of an item in EC anywhere in the zone after you've scored a bargain at the tunnel. Especially do NOT use the Nektulos zone wall near the Freeport sands where there's a flat area on a cliff on the wall, where you think no one will see you.

I've scored some amazing stuff there multiple times.

[poofph]

Thanks for all the tips and advice, I won't be making this mistake again :)

[Jorgam]

You need to find a more discreet place if you're going to drop items on the ground, even if it is out of the way a bit. Bad luck and probably not much that can be done.

[kained]

Yes I am aware that I am the idiot for trying to transfer an item from one character to another by placing it on the ground.. but I did it. I placed my Guantlets of Fiery Might on the ground, sat on the bag on the ground and logged out, immediately logged back in and they were gone, only person there was Cained who was eager to "help" me find them. Of course they were not there. After a few minutes I logged out suspecting him to be the person who may of taken them and logged another character on, went to Cained and inspected him, all his gear is bad except, you guessed it.. Gauntlets of Fiery Might he is wearing.. He claims some person ran into highhold and told his group to random and he won them.. maybe true, maybe not, but the evidence shows otherwise imo.

Anything can be done to see if those are in fact my gloves? Even if they are can anything be done?

I already know I am going to get tons of replies that I am the idiot, i deserve it yada yada.. I get it, was not a smart idea, your wisdom has been noted.

This Is Cained for people who don't know

I can't believe this guy first without getting proper evidence. decided to post this FIRST before actually realizing items can Rot on the ground OR the real thief is out there...I never look on the forums.

Everybody I've grouped with can attest to the information I am a good person.. I put in my own petition because I believe once he finds out it wasn't me he will not Apologize and he will Ignore me..So I will keep you guys up to date..because this is rude and ridiculous..I even tried to help the guy..its funny how because I tried to help is the only reason why he thinks I stole them.

How i got the gloves he mentioned Gauntlets of Fiery Might. I was killing gobs in Highhold and a Halfling Warrior with an Epic came down and had us roll, I won the roll and was given Shield of Atramentous (sic) and the Gloves...I know Puppo (Iks War) was in the group so ask him...I don't remember the name of the warrior, besides he was a Halfling Warrior...who gave me the items if he remembers let me know. I also don't remember the other members because i was drinking with my other Marine Buddies. Oh ya let me mention I am in the Marine Corps and i despise thief's..

Now let me ask you guys..Can anything be done?

PS. I usually record but unfortunately I wasn't, but i have screenshots and I will post them..Also im trying to get information of this guy so I can talk to him on the phone or something so I can show real time proof..

[Nyze]

Probably already said but if you're going to do a ground transfer, do it in a not obvious place with no one around. GMs cannot reimburse for items picked up via ground transfer. They can if it rots on the ground though.

[Maelstrom]

Is this a good time for a PSA? If you absolutely must drop a bag, there are a hundred places to go without players around to drop safely. Do you know what all those empty rooms in inn's around Norrath are for? Dropping bags son!

Never ever drop a bag in front of someone. :(

Also, talk about coincidence on those gloves wow.

[kained]

Can anything be done?

[Zutizutzut]

Eh...hate to say it, but his story seems to check out.

I was in his group in HHK and a guildmate of mine, Lazy <Core>, showed up and asked people to roll and top two would get items. I was on Wynngin

[Wed Sep 12 00:16:11 2018] Lazy says, 'apologies friends'
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:13 2018] Yibini begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:16 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:18 2018] Aeris Greymalkyn begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:19 2018] You raise an eyebrow at Lazy.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:19 2018] Kobarn goes berserk.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:21 2018] Lazy says, 'everyone /random 100'
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:22 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:23 2018] Your surge of strength fades.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:26 2018] **A Magic Die is rolled by Puppo.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:26 2018] **It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 52.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:26 2018] **A Magic Die is rolled by Wynngin.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:26 2018] **It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 100.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:28 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:30 2018] **A Magic Die is rolled by Rhes.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:30 2018] **It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 22.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:31 2018] **A Magic Die is rolled by Yibini.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:31 2018] **It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 77.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:34 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:35 2018] **A Magic Die is rolled by Cained.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:35 2018] **It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 90.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:37 2018] Puppo tells the group, 'brb'
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:40 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:46 2018] Lazy says, 'wynn cant win. '
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:46 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:52 2018] You say, 'so much hate'
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:52 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:58 2018] Your mind clears.
[Wed Sep 12 00:16:59 2018] --Jadsen has looted a Left Goblin Ear.--
[Wed Sep 12 00:17:00 2018] Lazy says, 'wrong race bard'

At the time, I asked what people won and nobody responded to the question, but I got confirmation from Lazy that one of the items was the gloves in question.

Submit the petition and find out who actually snatched them but it looks like Cained is clean.

Additional proof that nothing good comes from Lazy's acts of kindness.

[kained]

So the guy who accused me has 2 alts that i know of Armande and Phai , he has me blocked but please just let him know im sorry that he lost his item, and I hope he gets Reimbursed...Oh and look at my Join date wow 2010...Semper Fi OOrah!

Edit... Thank you Lazy (gnome) heh, and Thank you Wynngin!

[Nyze]

Wow well this took a wild turn

[Expediency]

Thread just took a turn for the classic. Glad I kept reading.

That said, If someone is walking along the back roads of Norrath, and they find an abandoned item with no one standing over it, Why would taking it be stealing? Unethical maybe, but criminal? GMs are far too kind on this, if you drop it on the ground, you abandoned it and Prexus put someone else in its path.

[poofph]

I am now getting tells from random people arguing with me about this whole ordeal, if Cained did not take them then I apologize, under the circumstances I would point to Cained, but when the petition is done and they tell me what happened I will update this thread.

[kained]

Like i told him..I would get my apology..thanx man!

[Evia]

Is cained a chill and normal elf pal? Or a liar and glove snatcher?

Did poofphs gloves just poof? Or will his accusation be validated via GM logs?



TUNE IN NEXT WEEK FOLKS!

[Cecily]

I want to log on and shower Cained with treasures, but my password has an R in it lol :(

Keyboard broke.

[poofph]

holy shit - talk about a coincidence.

cained is a good dude, and OP fucked up taking it to RNF.. but to be fair that is a pretty huge coincidence lazy happened to give some lower levels some good gear right before this including a pair of those gauntlets

fucking <Core> fucking shit up again

This. This is what I am saying, its a crazy coincidence if he did not take them.. I just stated what happened and all the facts I know/have.

[Mewse]

This. This is what I am saying, its a crazy coincidence if he did not take them.. I just stated what happened and all the facts I know/have.

This is why you should wait for a GM to confirm before accusing someone publicly. Because the only actual fact you had was that your item was missing, not that anybody took it.

[poofph]

This is why you should wait for a GM to confirm before accusing someone publicly. Because the only actual fact you had was that your item was missing, not that anybody took it.

I posted what happened, if he did not take them then its a bad coincidence, being in the wrong place at the wrong time and wearing those same gloves.

Cained has half a dozen people sending me tells, threatening me, saying they are going to ruin my rep in the game etc.. so be it I guess.. I just stated all the facts that happened and stated I would update the thread with whatever the gm/guides tells me what happened to the gloves.

[indiscriminate_hater]

what can be done in the face of such evil?

[Zutizutzut]

I posted what happened, if he did not take them then its a bad coincidence, being in the wrong place at the wrong time and wearing those same gloves.

Cained has half a dozen people sending me tells, threatening me, saying they are going to ruin my rep in the game etc.. so be it I guess.. I just stated all the facts that happened and stated I would update the thread with whatever the gm/guides tells me what happened to the gloves.

It would have to be a non-lore set of gloves wouldn't it? Otherwise, I'd say he couldn't possibly have looted them, but yes this seems like a huge coincidence.

Hopefully, this works out well for all involved.

[kained]

Hey poofph trust me I havn't whispered anyone telling them to threaten you. I only told one person to whisper you to unblock me so i can talk to you but, you wont even do that.

[poofph]

Hey poofph trust me I havn't whispered anyone telling them to threaten you. I only told one person to whisper you to unblock me so i can talk to you but, you wont even do that.

I don't really want to speak to you in game since all you are doing is threatening me and calling me an idiot.

[poofph]

You feeling threatened (because you know now you have zero facts, and acted in poor faith), is not the same as being threatened by someone.

hth

I don't know who you are but all you sound like an ahole and a moron.. but we all have our own opinions.

[Qtip]

I don't know who you are but all you sound like an ahole and a moron.. but we all have our own opinions.

LOL

[d3r14k]

I cannot believe the direction this thread turned. M. Night Shymalalalan thread of the week, folks.

[branamil]

Franswa gives away Ragefire hearts and gets suspended
Lazy gives away gauntlets of fiery might and gets suspended

makes U think

[Mewse]

I cannot believe the direction this thread turned. M. Night Shymalalalan thread of the week, folks.

[ScaringChildren]

Wait wait wait..


I just realized, https://wiki.project1999.com/Gauntlets_of_Fiery_Might

Aren't lore.


X-Files theme!

More to this story soon!

[Tethler]

Moral of the story, Franswa is a bro. He gave my cleric alt a PSC a month or so ago because "his bags were full anyway" when the group I was in crawled past his camp in sola. <3

[poofph]

You feeling threatened (because you know now you have zero facts, and acted in poor faith), is not the same as being threatened by someone.

hth

I do not feel threatened btw, I am just being threatened and I stated all the facts and evidence I have in the first post. Did he do it, I don't know.. does it look like he did it, based off what I know it does to me. You seem to think he did not do it based of claims someone else (you or otherwise) gave him a pair of these same non lore gloves, that still does not prove he did not take them. We just have the circumstances that happened and can only come to a conclusion based off those facts, again as stated before, could be a case of him being there at the wrong time and a situation full of coincidences... I apologize if that is the case. I just posted what happened to me last night, everyone can come to their own conclusion.

You are immediately calling me names and stating I am completely wrong because of something that happened at another time in another place. you may know that one fact but you are basing everything off that one fact and then attacking me in multiple replies, so no, fuck you you cunt.. I believe those are the words you used towards me

For those surprised at the direction a thread or this thread can take, are you new to the internet? :)

[Jimjam]

Looking forward to discovering if the accused did indeed pick up the second set of gloves or the OP is completely without grace.


See you in 3 months when that petition comes flying back in!

[poofph]

Looking forward to discovering if the accused did indeed pick up the second set of gloves or the OP is completely without grace.


See you in 3 months when that petition comes flying back in!

If this were a trial and if all the evidence you had is what I posted in the first post, I think he would be found guilty.. does that mean he is guilty.. no.. just saying it looks that way. I just stated what happened, everyone can and did come to their own conclusions.

[kained]

poofph,

Why are you doing this to me?? im serious whats wrong with you? Drop it will you..I didn't do anything

[poofph]

Why are you doing this to me?? im serious whats wrong with you poofph? Drop it will you..I didn't do anything

I just posted what happened man... if you did not pick them up then I apologize and its a case of coincidences that make it seem like you grabbed them.. which btw would not be anything "illegal" on your part.. would just be not cool if that were the case. I just stated what happened.. did I lie in my post? Anything I say in the first post not exactly what happened as far as you know? If you were in my shoes would you not think you were the one to grabbed them? Others concluded the same thing.. again not saying for fact you did do it.. it just appears that way based off of what happened.

[kained]

No..i know what it is, you feel stupid because you know you made a mistake...you know whats funny is NO ONE has whispered me trolling me and I mean that? but how many trolls have you had? you know what that tells you?

You are a liar, and other people who aren't "you" know you are a liar...and what did i tell you? You would apologize and you would ruin your own rep at the same time...and those have happened. I'm tired of being the nice guy... fuck off kid

[Canelek]

Oh no, not threats of reputation shaming! Whatever would one do?

[Maelstrom]

We should have a drop bag transfer event in the Arena. Thousands of dropped bags. You might get a nice item, or you might get smooshed.

Where is the Department of Fun when I come up with these genius ideas!?!

[poofph]

No..i know what it is, you feel stupid because you know you made a mistake...you know whats funny is NO ONE has whispered me trolling me and I mean that? but how many trolls have you had? you know what that tells you?

You are a liar, and other people who aren't "you" know you are a liar...and what did i tell you? You would apologize and you would ruin your own rep at the same time...and those have happened. I'm tired of being the nice guy... fuck off kid

I have not lied about a single thing, I stated exactly what happened.

What is your twitch btw, I was looking for your stream last night when you said you were streaming live during this whole thing and everyone was laughing at me. There were only 4 live streams when searching for everquest p99 p1999 etc on twitch

[Sillyturtle]

Gonna be interesting to see who did it. The staff will give you the name of who picked the item up.

I'm staying tuned.

[aaezil]

Why do any of you feel entitled to free gloves is the real question

[branamil]

Imagine volunteering in your free time to query role playing logs in an obscure elf world because a clumsy adventurer dropped some shitty noob gloves. I don't know how the staff does it, especially since they're not getting paid

[poofph]

Why do any of you feel entitled to free gloves is the real question

Me? I never said I was entitled to free gloves? What are you referring to?

[Jimjam]

If this were a trial and if all the evidence you had is what I posted in the first post, I think he would be found guilty.. does that mean he is guilty.. no.. just saying it looks that way. I just stated what happened, everyone can and did come to their own conclusions.

I think the fact that gauntlets of fiery might aren't particularly rare, so it is within reasonable doubt that the pair the defendant owned wasn't the same pair as you dropped. It's circumstantial evidence at best, not enough for a conviction.

[ScaringChildren]

Search ahungry.com logs and see if Cained sold any gloves

I saw him in EC last night

[Venjenz]

I used to do ground transfers in EC.
Your skill in Gambling has increased (178).

[pickled_heretic]

I dunno why anyone would ever do a ground transfer, unless it was for items worth less than a few hundred p. Find someone in a guild with a good reputation hanging out in EC and ask them for a transfer. Tip them for their time ahead of time and thank them when you're done. I've transferred items including a fungi this way via people I didn't know and I've never had a single thing stolen.

[Venjenz]

Whether the guy lied about it or not, picking something up off the ground is not against the server rules.
And with two threads going on the same issue about the same pair of gloves, this is really the bottom line. Consensus is Cained didn't do anything to begin with, but even if he had...it's perfectly within the rules. There was something lying on the ground and somebody picked it up. Okie doke. Random item laying on ground = FFA, finders keepers and all that.

At best, the OP can /petition the devs to give him a do-over on being dumb with a pretty decent item. IMHO, whoever did pick up those gloves should be allowed to keep them, and the devs can wish a new pair into existence for the goof who INTENTIONALLY dropped them on the ground. Or......

@poofph - go ALS style and actually kill any of the dragons that drop said gloves and win the roll! 4 dragons in Norrath give those gloves away for free, sometimes. All you gotta do is kill them to see if they have a pair laying around. Think of the fun!

[snyder43]

While giving the item to a level 60 in a trusted guild (AG, Kittens, Tempest, Aftermath, etc) is the best way to go, I have transferred high end items through low level characters a few times without a problem. Each time, I have them agree to give the items specifically to my mule, put them in the trade window, and take a screenshot of the conversation and trade window. That way, if they decide to scam me I have evidence for a petition.

Although I have not had a problem, I do have a friend who has lost 20k that way once. They GMs banned the scammer's account and refused to restore it until he agreed to give the pp back to my friend. Anyway, these are much better ways to go rather than to drop-transfer the items!

[Frug]

Search ahungry.com logs and see if Cained sold any gloves

I saw him in EC last night

I have my own logs, and he was not selling those. For the last 3 days, Gauntlets were auctioned by 6; none of them him.

[poofph]

@poofph - go ALS style and actually kill any of the dragons that drop said gloves and win the roll! 4 dragons in Norrath give those gloves away for free, sometimes. All you gotta do is kill them to see if they have a pair laying around. Think of the fun!

According to Lazy they let them rot 90% of the time, considering they are not lore that does not make sense to me.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Classic backfire.

Fuck you OP

[fadetree]

I see a bunch of people rolling for things in the posted logs. I see no mention of what those items were. Am I missing something?

[Zutizutzut]

I see a bunch of people rolling for things in the posted logs. I see no mention of what those items were. Am I missing something?

I asked after people won what they got and nobody answered so I didn't bother posting that part. It did make me ask Lazy in Discord if one of the items given was the item in question here and he confirmed it was. Do traded items show up in logs from the person giving the item? Didn't think they did and if so Lazy can't prove he gave that item, but really...why would he be dishonest about this?

Could the person have still snatched the non-lore gloves even though he already had a pair? Of course, but at least his story is truthful about the person in HHK giving him a pair.

Looking forward to GM response to answer all the burning questions.

[Jimjam]

Tangentially, I'm pretty sure if you try to snatch a lore item you already own the ground drop just poofs anyway.

[Zutizutzut]

According to Lazy they let them rot 90% of the time, considering they are not lore that does not make sense to me.

People there either have enough money that they could care less about the gloves or they hate EC camping and all their toons have equal or better.

[Jimjam]

People there either have enough money that they could care less about the gloves or they hate EC camping and all their toons have equal or better.

Or it could be a dkp system that requires a bid to loot an item, otherwise item is mandated to rot?

I dunno how these guys roll.

[Ghostly]

Just because you won a pair of those gloves in HHK from Lazy doesn't mean you didn't pick up a second pair off the ground. I mean, they're not lore.

This dude just knows that his gloves went missing, and when he came back Cained was standing where the gloves were, and made a comment about how he was streaming and everyone was laughing at OP.

[poofph]

Classic backfire.

Fuck you OP

Fuck off man, I just posted what happened, people can make their own conclusions what happened to the gloves until the petition is done. The proof people say Cained has that he did not pick up those gloves is not any kind of proof at all, its a claim that at another time on another day someone gave him a pair of those same kind of gloves, true or not true does not change the circumstances of my missing gloves. Like I said, if he did not take them I will apologize that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and the conclusions myself and others may have made were wrong.

[kained]

Yes I am aware that I am the idiot for trying to transfer an item from one character to another by placing it on the ground.. but I did it. I placed my Guantlets of Fiery Might on the ground, sat on the bag on the ground and logged out, immediately logged back in and they were gone, only person there was Cained who was eager to "help" me find them. Of course they were not there. After a few minutes I logged out suspecting him to be the person who may of taken them and logged another character on, went to Cained and inspected him, all his gear is bad except, you guessed it.. Gauntlets of Fiery Might he is wearing.. He claims some person ran into highhold and told his group to random and he won them.. maybe true, maybe not, but the evidence shows otherwise imo.

Anything can be done to see if those are in fact my gloves? Even if they are can anything be done?

I already know I am going to get tons of replies that I am the idiot, i deserve it yada yada.. I get it, was not a smart idea, your wisdom has been noted.


I never took a chance to read the OP's original post but he left this out on purpose...

where he said he dropped the item was in the EC tunnels...past the 2nd torch.. lol he didn't do a transfer he dropped it on accident like an idiot and someone took it...He only thought I took it because he inspected a random person (Me) and assumed i did it just because i was close.

and what I mean by close is, I saw his /OOC and I saw his name around the corner where i was looking to buy an item. and i ran up to him and said did you find it? and quote he said "I just did it right here, 20 seconds ago"..why would i show up to him wearing the gloves? and let my name be known so he can suspect me? You messed up and your looking to blame someone..sorry pal ain't me

My didn't you mention that OP? there were hundreds of people around and you blamed me? why not 99 other people? this wasn't a random zone like kith forest where it was 2 people in the zone, NO. It was the Tunnels where hundreds of people trade at.. get a hobby

[mcoy]

We should have a drop bag transfer event in the Arena. Thousands of dropped bags. You might get a nice item, or you might get smooshed.

Where is the Department of Fun when I come up with these genius ideas!?!

Hrm...

-Mcoy

[poofph]

I never took a chance to read the OP's original post but he left this out on purpose...

where he said he dropped the item was in the EC tunnels...past the 2nd torch.. lol he didn't do a transfer he dropped it on accident like an idiot and someone took it...He only thought I took it because he inspected a random person (Me) and assumed i did it just because i was close.

My didn't you mention that OP? there were hundreds of people around and you blamed me? why not 99 other people? this wasn't a random zone like kith forest where it was 2 people in the zone, NO. It was the Tunnels where hundreds of people trade at.. get a hobby

That is all completely false, I intentionally dropped them after T3 before area where shady is to do a transfer, it was approx 2am EST on a Monday, there were like 50 people in zone most of which inactive like normal at that time of the night during the week, there was hardly any activity going on, no one moving around etc. I did not accidently drop them. I logged back in and immediately see you about 30 feet away moving back and forth peeking around the corner, like you were waiting to see who was going to go look for their gloves, when you saw I saw you you moved to go back around the corner hoping I did not see you. I asked in ooc if anyone picked up my gloves and then you ran back out from around the corner and offered to help me find them. Maybe you took them, maybe you did not.. someone did? You are wearing a pair of them.. you were the only person in the vicinity active and trying to be helpful.. like I said maybe you did not and if you didn't I apologize you got tied up in the middle of it all, just a big coincidence then. I just stated exactly what happened in my original post....

[kained]

10353

thats all the communication we had with each other..Until he accused me...hes getting a lot of hate and im sorry for that, I hope they rotted and you get reimbursed. I mean that

Just so you know Phai was the original alt he did the /OOC on...hes been playing on Armande ever since i assume

[Wonkie]

Cucker is quite the name.

May the light of Baler shine upon him.

[poofph]

Phai is my monk, armande is my enchanter, and I dropped the gloves off my mule to transfer to phai.

[Arkanjil]

This is ENTERTAINING!

[kained]

Phai is my monk, armande is my enchanter, and I dropped the gloves off my mule to transfer to phai.

you did a transfer in the tunnel? stop lying

[ScaringChildren]

Wait wait wait...

What if the high level warrior picked them up and then gave them to the group?

The plot thiccness...

[poofph]

10353

thats all the communication we had with each other..Until he accused me...I'll leave it with that because hes getting a lot of hate and im sorry for that, I hope they rotted and you get reimbursed. I mean that

Just so you know Phai was the original alt he did the /OOC on...hes been playing on Armande ever since i assume

Thank you for the concern for all the "hate" I am getting, but I am not getting a lot of hate, I am getting a couple people in this thread mouthing off at me for posting a thread of what had happened to me and my gloves. I am quite certain if that same thing happened to those same mouthy people I am sure their reaction would be 10 fold of what mine was. They seem to be the type who are going off pure emotion and hate. I am not saying I am perfect nor handled everything perfectly but again, if you read my first post I just stated what exactly happened to me.

[poofph]

you did a transfer in the tunnel? stop lying

yes I did, and did 2 other items before that as well, panther skin gloves and a wu's stick of some flavor.. the guantlets were the 3rd transfer.. I did one at a time. Why the fuck would I be lying? you are something else.

[poofph]

This is ENTERTAINING!

Yes, I am finding a lot of entertainment out of it myself actually. Its hilarious to me how people get so aggressive, defensive, angry and hostile etc over stupid shit. I find myself getting a little rush here and there out of it all too.. this is far more entertaining then a com group imo.

[Dumluk]

You did a drop transfer in EC tunnel? Quite possibly the most active player zone in game? Completely irrelevant where in tunnel IMHO.

Drugs. That's the only answer that makes sense. You take drugs.

[poofph]

You did a drop transfer in EC tunnel? Quite possibly the most active player zone in game? Completely irrelevant where in tunnel IMHO.

Drugs. That's the only answer that makes sense. You take drugs.

I do not take any drugs that are not legally prescribed to me. :)

[Cecily]

I do not take any drugs that are not legally prescribed to me. :)

I dislike you because you’re such a flagrant nonconformist.

[bigjeff100]

We should have a drop bag transfer event in the Arena. Thousands of dropped bags. You might get a nice item, or you might get smooshed.

Where is the Department of Fun when I come up with these genius ideas!?!

Yes!! Have everyone make level 1's.. Turn in books and go red. Equip all players with fine steels. And let the bag event begin!!! Level 1's slaying each other, over random bags. Bodies all over. You may die fighting for a bag with a ration in it. Or.... Maybe......

Ok lets do this!

[Qtip]

Thank you for the concern for all the "hate" I am getting, but I am not getting a lot of hate, I am getting a couple people in this thread mouthing off at me for posting a thread of what had happened to me and my gloves. I am quite certain if that same thing happened to those same mouthy people I am sure their reaction would be 10 fold of what mine was. They seem to be the type who are going off pure emotion and hate. I am not saying I am perfect nor handled everything perfectly but again, if you read my first post I just stated what exactly happened to me.

Pretty sure everyone has given you hate outside of the guy you accused of stealing from you. Now were all waiting for you to go silent once you find out a npc/someone else picked them up. You're dumb as shit doing a ground transfer in the most populated zone and the most popular spot of that zone.

Also accusing someone of stealing without evidence and then running a smear campaign because you fucked up should be a suspension in its self.

[ChairmanMauzer]

What a roller coaster this thread is.

[White_knight]

We need to ask the GMs to elevate the petition and post their response here so it can't be altered.

Is OP falsely accusing Cained with circumstantial evidence?? or is Cained a two faced guy who lucked out by having the gloves already (non-lore) from a prior random Act of Kindness and subseqently he can mask his act of theft.

There is ONLY one truth...

It's a cliff hanger.

Stay tuned.

(Matt Damon and Jullia Roberts would go well as actors in a hollywood remake of this thread)

[madgarin]

We need to ask the GMs to elevate the petition and post their response here so it can't be altered.

Is OP falsely accusing Cained with circumstantial evidence?? or is Cained a two faced guy who lucked out by having the gloves already (non-lore) from a prior random Act of Kindness and subseqently he can mask his act of theft.

There is ONLY one truth...

It's a cliff hanger.

Stay tuned.

(Matt Damon and Jullia Roberts would go well as actors in a hollywood remake of this thread)

Directed by M night shamalan (however that's spelled)

[poofph]

Pretty sure everyone has given you hate outside of the guy you accused of stealing from you. Now were all waiting for you to go silent once you find out a npc/someone else picked them up. You're dumb as shit doing a ground transfer in the most populated zone and the most popular spot of that zone.

Also accusing someone of stealing without evidence and then running a smear campaign because you fucked up should be a suspension in its self.

Trust me I won't go silent.. I could really care less what you think and I have had no hate other than a few people sent presumably by Cained, considering I did not say my character name in this thread before those tells of people threatening/acting tough towards me. Not to mention I did not accuse him directly in my original post, I just posted facts of what happened and based off what happened he would be number one suspect, people can come to their own conclusions.. do I think he took them, maybe, is it possible he did not, of course it is... it is what it is and like I have said 10 times now once the petition is done we will know what happened to the gloves. If he did not take them then I am sorry he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and got in the middle of all this. If you read my first post there is no aggression, hate, anger.. I just posted what had happened... everyone has contributed to it to make this thread what it has become.

There was no one in that area at that time in the morning, like I said it was very inactive and along the wall all the way down the tunnel, was it the smartest idea, probably not.. but so be it.

[Sillyturtle]

In all seriousness people are getting carried away. Poofph didn't accuse Cained. He presented what he had. Everyone else allowed what was presented to form a conclusion in their minds that Cained had something to do with it. That's normal neurological behavior.

I think some of you are irked that poofph wont directly back down, but I respect him for saying "I'll wait till the GM's tell me the answer, then I'll make that answer public." He said he'll follow through and he's certainly weathering the storm that this thread has become, so I'm inclined to believe that even if the answer they give him is something like "your item poofed don't drop transfer noob" he'll post that.

He's already said "I apologize" to Cained if he is innocent. All of you seem to be ignoring that.

The only thing that's left is to wait and see what the petition reveals. And at this point I don't think it's so we can pounce on Cained if he did do it or pounce on Poofph if he messed up a drop transfer. I think all of us are sticking around for the lulz and because we're just curious what happened to the damn gloves. Lol.

[poofph]

In all seriousness people are getting carried away. Poofph didn't accuse Cained. He presented what he had. Everyone else allowed what was presented to form a conclusion in their minds that Cained had something to do with it. That's normal neurological behavior.

I think some of you are irked that poofph wont directly back down, but I respect him for saying "I'll wait till the GM's tell me the answer, then I'll make that answer public." He said he'll follow through and he's certainly weathering the storm that this thread has become, so I'm inclined to believe that even if the answer they give him is something like "your item poofed don't drop transfer noob" he'll post that.

He's already said "I apologize" to Cained if he is innocent. All of you seem to be ignoring that.

The only thing that's left is to wait and see what the petition reveals. And at this point I don't think it's so we can pounce on Cained if he did do it or pounce on Poofph if he messed up a drop transfer. I think all of us are sticking around for the lulz and because we're just curious what happened to the damn gloves. Lol.

lol thank you, well said.

[Dumluk]

In all seriousness people are getting carried away. Poofph didn't accuse Cained. He presented what he had. Everyone else allowed what was presented to form a conclusion in their minds that Cained had something to do with it. That's normal neurological behavior.

I think some of you are irked that poofph wont directly back down, but I respect him for saying "I'll wait till the GM's tell me the answer, then I'll make that answer public." He said he'll follow through and he's certainly weathering the storm that this thread has become, so I'm inclined to believe that even if the answer they give him is something like "your item poofed don't drop transfer noob" he'll post that.

He's already said "I apologize" to Cained if he is innocent. All of you seem to be ignoring that.

The only thing that's left is to wait and see what the petition reveals. And at this point I don't think it's so we can pounce on Cained if he did do it or pounce on Poofph if he messed up a drop transfer. I think all of us are sticking around for the lulz and because we're just curious what happened to the damn gloves. Lol.

You couldn't have scripted this story better. The 'who dun it?' is awesome. Plot twists etc etc. I have nothing against either player......except....

Drop transfer in EC tunnel! LoL!

It.
Must.
Be.
Drugs.

[poofph]

You couldn't have scripted this story better. The 'who dun it?' is awesome. Plot twists etc etc. I have nothing against either player......except....

Drop transfer in EC tunnel! LoL!

It.
Must.
Be.
Drugs.

This whole thing is a made up.. it was to add some excitement to the forums. :)

[arosian]

This is more exciting than watching poopsockers wipe (pun intended?).

[fastboy21]

its one of the oldest p99 scams in the book...RMT concealed by ground transfer.

Next thing you know you'll be offering a server-wide raffle for a fungi tunic...

[fastboy21]

I dont think you read the thread did you fastboy?

I read the thread. Trump is president, I do what I please now.

Thanks for the input though, forum dude.

[Arkanjil]

Ok this is now getting annoying. I’ll pay you 3k to just stop posting OP.

[Cen]

Ok this is now getting annoying. I’ll pay you 3k to just stop posting OP.

Hey can I do anything that might annoy you enough to pay me 3k to stop doing? Name it and ill do it I am easy :D

if I was him id take the dealo!

[poofph]

Ok this is now getting annoying. I’ll pay you 3k to just stop posting OP.

Why read/contribute then? You had to know this comment was coming, its the obvious response. I am holding out for a better offer.

[ScottBerta]

Ask any lvl 60 in a top guild to transfer (AM, Tempest, AG, BG, PS, Kittens)or any of the big merchants (Arleigh, Deals, Feybank) in EC tunnel... I have done countless transfers this way and always get my items.. dropping items on the ground in a zone with other players has to be the stupidest thing you could do.

[Mead]

Ask any lvl 60 in a top guild to transfer (AM, Tempest, AG, BG, PS, Kittens)or any of the big merchants (Arleigh, Deals, Feybank) in EC tunnel... I have done countless transfers this way and always get my items.. dropping items on the ground in a zone with other players has to be the stupidest thing you could do.

It also shouldn't be reimbursed. Waste of GM's time when you could have taken 10 seconds to ask someone to transfer for you.

Can close up thread now.

[Arkanjil]

Why read/contribute then? You had to know this comment was coming, its the obvious response. I am holding out for a better offer.

And just like your gaunts...the offer disappears. :p

[ScaringChildren]

if the transfer happened in the tunnel, the gloves definitely didn't poof.

Someone picked them up.

Was it Colonel Mustard with the candlestick?

I must know. When's the next episode of this air?

[Venjenz]

Yes, the gloves were obviously picked up. SO WHAT?

Items on the ground are FFA....read the rules. A dropped item is considered discarded. So regardless of who picked them up, that person did nothing wrong.

Given that the ground xfer attempt happened in the EC tunnel, the devs should reward the OP with a /tell about why lessons learned the hard way are the ones that stick.

[Swish2]

...the devs should reward the OP with a /tell about why lessons learned the hard way are the ones that stick.

These ALS guys really are a hardcore bunch. Right on though.

[Pootle]

That is all completely false, I intentionally dropped them after T3 before area where shady is to do a transfer, it was approx 2am EST on a Monday, there were like 50 people in zone

Ground transfer in EC Tunnel? Bwahahahaa!

[Venjenz]

These ALS guys really are a hardcore bunch. Right on though.
Not exactly hardcore to understand the amount of foolishness in dropping a top ten hand item on the ground in the EC tunnel.

Thinking of ALS however, for the OP, if they need to do ground transfers, do it around a bunch of ALS folks, since our charter has a rule against picking items up off the ground.

[aaezil]

Lol @ top 10 gloves

[tsuchang]

I have used some "secret" places to ground transfer and been successful so far. Lately I have asked the Dial a Port players to transfer for me and they are super at it. I trust them because their guild is so strict on who can join.

[ScaringChildren]

Yes, the gloves were obviously picked up. SO WHAT?

Items on the ground are FFA....read the rules. A dropped item is considered discarded. So regardless of who picked them up, that person did nothing wrong.

I see you're not a man fond of forum drama, such as I.

Yes, the person would not get in trouble, but perhaps they would be publicly shamed and/or argue with OP.

This is what we really want, right?

[Lammy]

I'm beginning to think the OP didn't even have any gloves to begin with. He saw an innocent bystander wearing a pair and thought he'd create some story and drama so people would feel sorry for him and offer him free gear.

[Crawdad]

If this were a trial and if all the evidence you had is what I posted in the first post, I think he would be found guilty.. does that mean he is guilty.. no.. just saying it looks that way. I just stated what happened, everyone can and did come to their own conclusions.

Dumbest thing I've read in months.

[Harbogast]

I've successfully ground transfered at least 100 times. One time my secret hideout location was discovered by the shifty rogue Stikkerz, prompting me to find an even more secluded and unused location. Stikkerz you keen-eyed sneaky villain! *shakes fist*

[Teppler]

Admins should have the means to solve this shouldn't they?

If Cained has these gloves can't they track where the gloves came from?

If OP ever had the gloves they should be able to track that as well.

They should be able to track any conversation between these two and note if there was funny business.

Am I mistaken that they don't have this capability?

Whether or not it's their policy to investigate this would be another matter but I was under the impression they have the tools to figure this one out if they want to spend the time and energy on it.

[Teppler]

I've successfully ground transfered at least 100 times. One time my secret hideout location was discovered by the shifty rogue Stikkerz, prompting me to find an even more secluded and unused location. Stikkerz you keen-eyed sneaky villain! *shakes fist*

Someone caught me doing an expensive ground transfer last week too. He gave me the item back though.

Looks like everybody is doing this still lol.

Just read through the rest of the thread.

OP is definitely right to be skeptical of cained. There's strong circumstantial evidence there. I think cained is innocent but I have a small amount of skepticism too. And I would of had even more without Cained posting those logs.

[urbanbo]

Just put in the bank slots and be done with it.

[Maschenny]

OP, post proof that you ever even owned these gloves

[Ghostly]

I was on OP's side until I saw that he did this in the middle of the EC Tunnel. At that point you deserve to have someone take your stuff.

[ScaringChildren]

What if OP was actually in Cained's group but lost the roll on the gloves and got angry?

[Teppler]

Everything should be on the table as a possibility.

[Mead]

I was on OP's side until I saw that he did this in the middle of the EC Tunnel. At that point you deserve to have someone take your stuff.

To be fair 90% of EQers are operating on one or more psychiatric drugs; that night I believe op was on xanax

[Muggens]

I really hope the GMs dont spend time on this

[bigjeff100]

https://i.imgur.com/qTasy5S.png

[Culainn]

This thread will live forever by the side of that T-staff thread (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226227).

Thank you poofph.

[Mead]

Little did op know the name he picked 6 years ago would be so fitting for his story

[Hakubi]

I've lost plenty of drop transfers myself, people will steal anything including a regular old backpack full of food for my necro and which they feigned ignorance of before I told them of the OBS buffer I had... where I Seen them do it. Up on the side of a zone wall no one had any business being, they'll always find it, sometimes I wonder if these sweaty nerds are running showEQ or something . After which they laughed in my face. Shared bank would be my number one wish for a non classic feature. Lost 2x invis rings and a pair of SCHW when they were worth something. Don't do it, if he doesn't have a guild officer to shame you are likely Sol.

OP was just hiding it in plain sight, the ol forged roots strategy.

[Erati]

If you are going to do a drop transfer literally at the EC tunnel, utilize the upper regions of the front open lip. Nobody every looks around the edges there, simply walk up a bit so you are above everyone and do your drop transfer up there.

Almost no one pays attention to the top part of the tunnel, you could probably drop transfer 10 things and not a soul would pick up on what is going on because you are basically invisible to the entire tunnel dwelling population.

[Erati]

or just not drop transfer in the most consistently populated zone in the game

wheres the fun in that, remember these are only simulated pixels, not real ones

[Ravager]

If you're not playing on Windows 98, the pixels are simulated.

[Tethler]

If you are going to do a drop transfer literally at the EC tunnel, utilize the upper regions of the front open lip. Nobody every looks around the edges there, simply walk up a bit so you are above everyone and do your drop transfer up there.

Almost no one pays attention to the top part of the tunnel, you could probably drop transfer 10 things and not a soul would pick up on what is going on because you are basically invisible to the entire tunnel dwelling population.

I do my EC drop transfers in the back in the shady swashbuckler room. Invis up and drop behind some of the crates or barrels in the back where I have my alt pre-parked. Only lost about 1.5k in items in 1 drop transfer in my years here, and that was due to a crash and 15 mins of login server errors. I used to drop in north ro up on the cliff wall when you hang a left out of the tunnel, but I cant be bothered to go through an extra zoneline anymore.

[Tethler]

Drop xfering in the most populated zone in the game sounds like an awesome idea OP

It's certainly better to just ask someone. I do it only because I live in Asia so my play time is like 4am pacific and 95% of the people in the tunnel are AFK.

[Ghostly]

If you are going to do a drop transfer literally at the EC tunnel, utilize the upper regions of the front open lip. Nobody every looks around the edges there, simply walk up a bit so you are above everyone and do your drop transfer up there.

Almost no one pays attention to the top part of the tunnel, you could probably drop transfer 10 things and not a soul would pick up on what is going on because you are basically invisible to the entire tunnel dwelling population.

This is horrible advice. Everyone sees the top of the tunnel when they run into it. They would 100% see the bag. No, they wouldn't see it from inside the tunnel, but of course they would see it when running in, or sitting at the entrance looking into it.

[fadetree]

Boredom setting in...thread still has lots of potential. Next person who says : "ermagerd don't drop transfer ask a high level har har" IS THE VILLAIN...

[Venjenz]

Lol @ top 10 gloves
Yeah, arranged by stats, it's more like top 25. My bad.

[Dumluk]

Any word yet? Was the Russian collusion angle investigated yet? I bet we can blame Trump for this.

[poofph]

Any word yet? Was the Russian collusion angle investigated yet? I bet we can blame Trump for this.

As soon as i hear ill post an update

[Erati]

This is horrible advice. Everyone sees the top of the tunnel when they run into it. They would 100% see the bag. No, they wouldn't see it from inside the tunnel, but of course they would see it when running in, or sitting at the entrance looking into it.

You'd be surprised. People are so oblivious to what is happening right in front of them they will rarely pay attention to anything but themselves as most people in EC don't sightsee upon the glorious brown and yellowish landscape. Soon as someone enters the lip of the tunnel, no one ever looks around the edges- eva.

Also highly doubt anyone would spot a tiny brown bag amongst all the yellow and brown sand around the upper regions of the diagonal slope of the tunnel. Sometimes you can barely see the bag when you camp right on the spot you dropped it.

Again though, this is advice only to be taken if you must do a drop transfer when you are already basically stuck at the tunnel. I would never specifically travel to the EC tunnel for the purpose of drop transferring, that's what the area behind the Velious portal rings are for ( no one ever walks behind them, you could literally have an orgy back there and no one would ever know )

[Muggens]

Someone gonna make a rogue and sit invis at these spots mentioned now. Keep us updated in this thread

[Ghostly]

You'd be surprised. People are so oblivious to what is happening right in front of them they will rarely pay attention to anything but themselves as most people in EC don't sightsee upon the glorious brown and yellowish landscape. Soon as someone enters the lip of the tunnel, no one ever looks around the edges- eva.

Also highly doubt anyone would spot a tiny brown bag amongst all the yellow and brown sand around the upper regions of the diagonal slope of the tunnel. Sometimes you can barely see the bag when you camp right on the spot you dropped it.

Again though, this is advice only to be taken if you must do a drop transfer when you are already basically stuck at the tunnel. I would never specifically travel to the EC tunnel for the purpose of drop transferring, that's what the area behind the Velious portal rings are for ( no one ever walks behind them, you could literally have an orgy back there and no one would ever know )

The sand is yellow, the bag is dark brown. Drop a BS bag there and watch it, i bet it gets picked up within 2 minutes.

It would make more sense to drop it inside one of the Inns in a side room, or inside an Orc Tent or something out of the way. Rather than right in front of 100 people and hope no one sees it.

[ScaringChildren]

It would make more sense to drop it inside one of the Inns in a side room, or inside an Orc Tent or something out of the way. Rather than right in front of 100 people and hope no one sees it.

I've used those empty huts near Nek Forest to do transfers plenty of times.

60% of the time, it works everytime.

[Venjenz]

There are buildings in Freeport where you could sit for an entire week and never see another person set foot in. Freeport, FFS. Most cities are the same exact way. Expand out beyond the cities, and there are a few bazillion spots where you could sit for a month and never see another single person. Hell, park anywhere in LFay not next to the zone wall and you could spend the rest of your life there without seeing another player.

Point being, the "dangerous" ground xfer is pretty safe in the rest of 99.99% of the land area of EQ1 that isn't the EC tunnel. And I'd think the extra 5-15 minutes of leg work needed to make dropping that 3k pp item on the ground would be soooo worth it, considering I have yet to find the camp where you make 3k pp in less than 15 minutes.

[Erati]

It would make more sense to drop it inside one of the Inns in a side room, or inside an Orc Tent or something out of the way. Rather than right in front of 100 people and hope no one sees it.

I know reading comprehension can be difficult at times but


Again though, this is advice only to be taken if you must do a drop transfer when you are already basically stuck at the tunnel.

hope this helps.

[Venjenz]

But even if at tunnel, you could go out into NRo and come up with a ton of better drop locations. You can't be that "Stuck" in the EC tunnel. You had to get there from somewhere.

[jpetrick]

Next time put your items on a mob in a obscure zone and then kill it to transfer the items or better yet just ask anyone with an Aftermath tag to help transfer in the tunnel. We won’t risk a guild removal over some junk items.

[Dumluk]

I love you guys. Please keep posting places you do drop transfer so others will. I'm gonna make a bard and keep checking them.

[Lanzellot]

drumas or arleight trustworthy people aswell ,i transver with this both , i need no tempest or the detoxx guild haha:p

[Plowyabeastlord]

Myself (Fleamarkit) tunnel rat, scum lord, whatever names y’all call me. I am trustworthy and have done many many transfers for people. Can find me at T1.

[Baler]

drumas or arleight trustworthy people aswell ,i transver with this both , i need no tempest or the detoxx guild haha:p

You know your shit and I respect that.

[Erati]

You can't be that "Stuck" in the EC tunnel. You had to get there from somewhere.

:confused::confused:

( some people log on toons they have specially designed to live in the tunnel permanently, we like to call them 'tunnel mules' )

[Venjenz]

:confused::confused:

( some people log on toons they have specially designed to live in the tunnel permanently, we like to call them 'tunnel mules' )
Yes, I understand this, but they didn't get there by accident, and NRo/EC are both lowbie zone where there are plenty of spaces someone could do a ground xfer with that mule and have much better anonymity/safety than one of the torches inside the tunnel.

Or do tunnel mules get permanently rooted in place by the devs/GMs?

[Baylan295]

Yes, I understand this, but they didn't get there by accident, and NRo/EC are both lowbie zone where there are plenty of spaces someone could do a ground xfer with that mule and have much better anonymity/safety than one of the torches inside the tunnel.

Or do tunnel mules get permanently rooted in place by the devs/GMs?

No, but by the plat that they carry.

[Venjenz]

No, but by the plat that they carry.
OK, that makes more sense. I stipulate.

[Ghostly]

I know reading comprehension can be difficult at times but



hope this helps.

I know common sense is hard to grasp, but it's retarded to risk dropping items on the ground at the tunnel, when you can just walk less than a minute to an Inn and transfer with barely any chance of anyone even knowing you were there.

"Stuck" in the tunnel. Jesus Christ.

[Phenyo]

since our charter has a rule against picking items up off the ground.

This is more bizarre than OP drop trading in the bazaar

[Canelek]

Eventually, the sluggish, overloaded jelly roll tunnel mules will have to be sawn out of their double-wide the tunnel by Geraldo and his crew.

[Ghostly]

No, but by the plat that they carry.

Sooo, what you're saying is they're rooted in place due to the weight of the plat?

Makes total sense... definitely MOVE YOUR TOON TO THE TOP OF THE TUNNEL in this situation... because your encumbrance magically disappears once the game knows you're going to the top of the tunnel.

If a mule is encumbered, then how do you think they're going to get to the top of the tunnel? SoW and Str, right? Sooo they are then no longer stuck, and can go to a more sensible area and not have their stuff stolen.

The advice was bad... its okay to stop defending it now.

[Braknar]

So this thread has gotten RnF level, ontop of that I looked. The OP dropped them, and the someone did pick them up but it wasn't the nerd he accused.

In fact that guy's story looks correct in how he came about his gloves.

Ontop of that, no, staff will not help in this case.

Now, off to RnF with this thread.. WHEEE!

[poofph]

So this thread has gotten RnF level, ontop of that I looked. The OP dropped them, and the someone did pick them up but it wasn't the nerd he accused.

In fact that guy's story looks correct in how he came about his gloves.

Ontop of that, no, staff will not help in this case.

Now, off to RnF with this thread.. WHEEE!

Bummer, was so hoping it was Cained at this point lol... ohh well... Cained I apologize for dragging you into all this!! it was fun though, gotta admit haha

[Sonderbeast]

https://i.imgur.com/UwkLMKA.jpg

[Mead]

Bummer, was so hoping it was Cained at this point lol... ohh well... Cained I apologize for dragging you into all this!! it was fun though, gotta admit haha

You were hoping to blame some innocent dude for you having no brain cells?

Sounds about right

[kained]

ScaringChildren HEY ASSHOLE lets apologize because from the beginning you thought i did it...haha you feel stupid now dont you??

[kained]

So this thread has gotten RnF level, ontop of that I looked. The OP dropped them, and the someone did pick them up but it wasn't the nerd he accused.

In fact that guy's story looks correct in how he came about his gloves.

Ontop of that, no, staff will not help in this case.

Now, off to RnF with this thread.. WHEEE!
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[kained]

So this thread has gotten RnF level, ontop of that I looked. The OP dropped them, and the someone did pick them up but it wasn't the nerd he accused.

In fact that guy's story looks correct in how he came about his gloves.

Ontop of that, no, staff will not help in this case.

Now, off to RnF with this thread.. WHEEE!


Isn't it sweet baby

[kained]

just so you guys know armande / Phai just apologized....ummm hey all of you guys who thought i did it...im sorry but im a...oh what do they call it, damn i forgot..OH YEAH A United States Marine...fuck off

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Classic backfire.

Fuck you OP

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Just laying out the facts guys

[Mead]

I already know I am going to get tons of replies that I am the idiot, i deserve it

[poofph]

Chat from Cained tonight in game.... was not going to post this but it got weird and you all like drama it seems.. so enjoy!

Here is my original message in this thread to start with..



Yes I am aware that I am the idiot for trying to transfer an item from one character to another by placing it on the ground.. but I did it. I placed my Guantlets of Fiery Might on the ground, sat on the bag on the ground and logged out, immediately logged back in and they were gone, only person there was Cained who was eager to "help" me find them. Of course they were not there. After a few minutes I logged out suspecting him to be the person who may of taken them and logged another character on, went to Cained and inspected him, all his gear is bad except, you guessed it.. Gauntlets of Fiery Might he is wearing.. He claims some person ran into highhold and told his group to random and he won them.. maybe true, maybe not, but the evidence shows otherwise imo.

Anything can be done to see if those are in fact my gloves? Even if they are can anything be done?

I already know I am going to get tons of replies that I am the idiot, i deserve it yada yada.. I get it, was not a smart idea, your wisdom has been noted.




[Sat Sep 22 03:09:12 2018] Cained tells you, 'you hear anything from GM's yet?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:10:28 2018] You told cained, 'they just replied like 2 mins ago, said you took em man!'
[Sat Sep 22 03:10:36 2018] You told cained, 'jk, said someone else took em :) '
[Sat Sep 22 03:10:40 2018] Cained tells you, 'you lier'
[Sat Sep 22 03:10:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'for reals they did?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:11:02 2018] Cained tells you, 'be jhonest bro'
[Sat Sep 22 03:11:15 2018] You told cained, 'so I apologize for dragging ya into it! they did not say in the thread who, going to check the petitiion thread though'
[Sat Sep 22 03:11:50 2018] Cained tells you, 'what thread?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:12:44 2018] You told cained, 'there is a thread you make for the petition, only I and gm's can see, and the server chat thread.. which they moved'
[Sat Sep 22 03:12:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'honestly i didnt see anything i just figured i'd whisper you for information'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:07 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok so who took them?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:27 2018] You told Cained, 'not sure, does not say anything in the petition thread yet, just checked'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:43 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok dude how can i check this'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'i need to look'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:52 2018] You told Cained, 'check what?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:13:59 2018] Cained tells you, 'the forum? '
[Sat Sep 22 03:14:06 2018] You told Cained, 'the main thread everyone was talking in.. yeah on the forum'
[Sat Sep 22 03:14:33 2018] Cained tells you, 'oh ok because i jus looked at iit before i msg you'
[Sat Sep 22 03:15:22 2018] You told Cained, 'I literally just looked and saw it then you sent me this msg a minute later :)'
[Sat Sep 22 03:15:41 2018] Cained tells you, 'i just read ut'
[Sat Sep 22 03:15:43 2018] Cained tells you, 'you asshole'
[Sat Sep 22 03:15:54 2018] You told Cained, '?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:15:56 2018] Cained tells you, 'you believe me now?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:16:16 2018] Cained tells you, 'you put me through this bullshit'
[Sat Sep 22 03:16:34 2018] Cained tells you, 'im not mad iits more of a joke'
[Sat Sep 22 03:16:45 2018] Cained tells you, 'we can be friendly'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:03 2018] You told Cained, 'lol yeha, I am not mad at you, never was mad at you :)'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:10 2018] You told Cained, 'I get if you mad at me, I understand'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:16 2018] Cained tells you, 'but honestly why did you think i did ity?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'you think i would wear your gloves next to you?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:38 2018] Cained tells you, 'you thik im stupid?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:53 2018] You told Cained, 'because you were literally the only active person there and you were wearing the gloves I had just lost lol, pretty big coincidence'
[Sat Sep 22 03:17:58 2018] Cained tells you, 'hey'
[Sat Sep 22 03:18:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'i didnt do it'
[Sat Sep 22 03:18:28 2018] Cained tells you, 'you know whats funny the real thief is out there'
[Sat Sep 22 03:18:30 2018] Cained tells you, 'like i told you'
[Sat Sep 22 03:19:19 2018] You told Cained, 'they not a theif, they just picked up a pair of gloves on the ground, but I am sure they know someone was trying to transfer them, because who in the fuck would throw a pair of 3k+ gloves on the ground intentionally just to leave behind hehe'
[Sat Sep 22 03:32:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok '
[Sat Sep 22 03:32:42 2018] Cained tells you, 'why ddnt you wait until the petition to post on forum list i told you?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:41:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'hello?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:43:16 2018] You told Cained, 'hello what? not sure what you are asking me? I posted on the forum what had happened and if there was anything that can be done, reread my original post in that thread'
[Sat Sep 22 03:43:37 2018] Cained tells you, 'forget the post'
[Sat Sep 22 03:43:56 2018] Cained tells you, 'im talking to you as a man'
[Sat Sep 22 03:44:10 2018] Cained tells you, 'dont feel stupid now'
[Sat Sep 22 03:44:17 2018] Cained tells you, 'i already told you'
[Sat Sep 22 03:45:04 2018] You told Cained, 'I don't feel stupid at all.. and a stranger teling me something means nothing to me to be honest.. I don't know you, I only know what happened, the circumstances and the coincidences'
[Sat Sep 22 03:45:24 2018] Cained tells you, 'sorry bro i think i came off as rude '
[Sat Sep 22 03:45:32 2018] Cained tells you, 'i didnt mean it like thst'
[Sat Sep 22 03:46:36 2018] You told Cained, 'I am not trying to attack you or anything.. I just went by what happened, and posted in the thread exactly what happened, I did not say so and so took them, I just said what had happened.'
[Sat Sep 22 03:47:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'call me XXXXXX3016...so we can bury it'
[Sat Sep 22 03:47:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'just call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:47:52 2018] You told Cained, 'dude, its almost 4am here, my daughter and wife are in bed lol'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:02 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on bro'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:06 2018] Cained tells you, 'please call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'ill keep it short'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:25 2018] Cained tells you, 'i promise'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:51 2018] You told Cained, 'haha, not sure why you would want me to call you '
[Sat Sep 22 03:49:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on dude'
[Sat Sep 22 03:49:07 2018] Cained tells you, 'im a good guy'
[Sat Sep 22 03:49:09 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on'
[Sat Sep 22 03:49:35 2018] You told Cained, 'I am a good guy too :) and I don't think you are not a good guy '
[Sat Sep 22 03:50:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'just call dude its not what you think i ptromise'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:15 2018] You told Cained, 'how come you want me to call you on the phone?'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'pls dude'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:33 2018] Cained tells you, 'because i feel we are close now'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:48 2018] Cained tells you, 'i promise its not going to be bad'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'i promise'
[Sat Sep 22 03:55:20 2018] Cained tells you, 'dudecome on call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:57:11 2018] Cained tells you, 'bro its not a game come on call XXXXXX3016'
[Sat Sep 22 03:58:10 2018] You told Cained, 'I don't know why you want me to call so badly, we are talking here.. I don't even call friends.. just txt lol'
[Sat Sep 22 03:58:56 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok look if i say any rude stuff immediately you hang up'
[Sat Sep 22 03:58:59 2018] Cained tells you, 'i promise'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wont'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:28 2018] Cained tells you, 'its not any game honestly its because ive been drinking'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:37 2018] Cained tells you, 'and i just wanna say hi'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:38 2018] You told Cained, 'I am not worried about ya being rude nor do I think you will be, I just don't talk on the phone, especially at 4 in the morning to people I don't know :)'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:53 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on brp'
[Sat Sep 22 03:59:55 2018] You told Cained, 'hehe, well hello :)'
[Sat Sep 22 04:00:11 2018] Cained tells you, 'you owe it at least please....itsa not gonna be how you think'
[Sat Sep 22 04:00:17 2018] Cained tells you, 'i promise'
[Sat Sep 22 04:00:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'trust me'
[Sat Sep 22 04:01:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'the sad part is you might actually like me'
[Sat Sep 22 04:01:20 2018] Cained tells you, 'same number XXXXXX3016'
[Sat Sep 22 04:02:59 2018] You told Cained, 'hehe I am sure you are a very nice guy :)'
[Sat Sep 22 04:03:10 2018] Cained tells you, 'i just got a text and i was happy because i thought it was you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:03:23 2018] You told Cained, 'hehe, nope was not me'
[Sat Sep 22 04:03:27 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on man just call no funny shit i promise '
[Sat Sep 22 04:03:59 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on dude you owe it to me at least'
[Sat Sep 22 04:04:12 2018] Cained tells you, 'give me 1 minute'
[Sat Sep 22 04:06:24 2018] Cained tells you, 'your not going to talk to me?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:08:07 2018] You told Cained, 'man, I don't want you upset but really, I am not gunna call ya, its 4am, all my family is in bed '
[Sat Sep 22 04:08:33 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok fine '
[Sat Sep 22 04:08:53 2018] Cained tells you, 'its just me\'
[Sat Sep 22 04:09:33 2018] You told Cained, 'I believe ya man :)'
[Sat Sep 22 04:10:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wish you would of called because now im gonna fuck with you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:10:41 2018] You told Cained, 'whats the suppose to mean?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:10:47 2018] You told Cained, 'that*'
[Sat Sep 22 04:10:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'you put me throught this bullshit and you were wrong'
[Sat Sep 22 04:11:19 2018] Cained tells you, 'you posted on the forums assuming that whatr everyone does after every little scam'
[Sat Sep 22 04:13:00 2018] Cained tells you, 'all i wanted was to talk to you and make our peace'
[Sat Sep 22 04:14:45 2018] You told Cained, 'which In think can and has been done with us chatting for the past ~hour, no?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:15:27 2018] Cained tells you, 'forget it man..i just thought you owed me a goddamn conversation if you care the fuck it'
[Sat Sep 22 04:15:37 2018] You told Cained, 'then after you begging me to call you you flip and makes threats.... so not sure what to make of you or the situation.'
[Sat Sep 22 04:16:12 2018] Cained tells you, 'alright man..i thought last night we made ammends'
[Sat Sep 22 04:16:38 2018] You told Cained, 'I did as well, I have no hard feelings, never did.. and I apologized for dragging you into it'
[Sat Sep 22 04:16:46 2018] You told Cained, 'not sure what a phone call has to do with that'
[Sat Sep 22 04:16:51 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wanted to talk to you to be nice i dunno im just in the mood to bethat wat'
[Sat Sep 22 04:17:20 2018] You told Cained, 'and I can appreciate that, chatting on the phone is just not my thing, nothing personal'
[Sat Sep 22 04:20:18 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok do you have discord? mumble?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:20:33 2018] You told Cained, 'I have discord, yes'
[Sat Sep 22 04:20:55 2018] Cained tells you, 'we both have phones jesus man lets talk like men'
[Sat Sep 22 04:21:19 2018] Cained tells you, 'you think im gonna fuck with you bnut i dont give a shit\'
[Sat Sep 22 04:22:46 2018] You told cained, 'I don't think you are going to fuck with me, even if you did it would not bother me.'
[Sat Sep 22 04:24:32 2018] Cained tells you, 'listen man...call me if you dont like it you can hang up immediately'
[Sat Sep 22 04:26:34 2018] You told cained, 'I am not trying to be rude or disrespectful but I am just not going to call ya man.. we can chat here in game all ya want though'
[Sat Sep 22 04:27:38 2018] Cained tells you, 'whatever man i can see you dont wanna have fun...im actually a funny guy but your being scared so fuck iy'
[Sat Sep 22 04:28:03 2018] Cained tells you, 'one last time XXXXXX3016 call me and have fun or whatever'
[Sat Sep 22 04:28:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'you blamed me for something but at least owe me that'
[Sat Sep 22 04:30:35 2018] Cained tells you, 'funny thing is you blame me for some me fdor some shit but that you wont at least give me the satisfaction'
[Sat Sep 22 04:34:07 2018] Cained tells you, 'you gonna ignore me now?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:34:37 2018] You told Cained, 'not ignoring you, just not calling ya either :)'
[Sat Sep 22 04:35:00 2018] Cained tells you, 'while you were blaming me...the real thief was out there'
[Sat Sep 22 04:35:13 2018] Cained tells you, 'how do you feel about that?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:35:51 2018] Cained tells you, 'you know whats sad is i went to help you...and you know why i did? because in my mind i thouht hey maybe he cant see the item...so i'll help him out'
[Sat Sep 22 04:36:34 2018] Cained tells you, 'you know how much plat i got because of you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:36:41 2018] Cained tells you, 'someone gave me a cloak of flames'
[Sat Sep 22 04:36:44 2018] You told Cained, 'I realize that, and I appreciate that and again I apologize for accusing you.. but I do think you can understand why I would think it was you, right? '
[Sat Sep 22 04:36:58 2018] Cained tells you, 'because they knew you accused someone for the wrong things'
[Sat Sep 22 04:37:00 2018] You told Cained, 'very nice of them, nice item.. I had one back on live 15+ years ago'
[Sat Sep 22 04:37:13 2018] Cained tells you, 'ya but do you have one now?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:37:20 2018] You told Cained, 'no I do not'
[Sat Sep 22 04:37:23 2018] Cained tells you, 'i do...thanks to you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:37:29 2018] You told Cained, 'your welcome :)'
[Sat Sep 22 04:38:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'wait'
[Sat Sep 22 04:38:06 2018] Cained tells you, 'you forget'
[Sat Sep 22 04:38:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'this only happened to me because i tired to help you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:38:38 2018] Cained tells you, 'you think if i stole your gloves, i'd be near you?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:38:47 2018] Cained tells you, 'id take them and log off'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:00 2018] You told Cained, 'some people are not that smart'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:07 2018] Cained tells you, 'haha ya'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:24 2018] You told Cained, 'and some people are dumb and ground transfer shit in ec tunnel....'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:26 2018] Cained tells you, 'well the guy who stole them was'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:51 2018] You told Cained, 'hehe technically did not steal them.. just picked them up off the ground'
[Sat Sep 22 04:39:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'and while youn were blaming me...he want 3k out of you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:02 2018] Cained tells you, 'oh ya'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:12 2018] Cained tells you, 'so you made a forum post about thT'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:19 2018] Cained tells you, 'aand made me more fame'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:25 2018] Cained tells you, 'im sorry bro'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:29 2018] You told Cained, 'did you read my post.. read the original post'
[Sat Sep 22 04:40:56 2018] Cained tells you, 'but im total because of your post i got 6k platinum, cloak of flames'
[Sat Sep 22 04:41:05 2018] Cained tells you, 'now im not blamaing you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:41:07 2018] You told Cained, 'so you should be happy.. you are famous.. got lots of nice free shit and I am the bad guy.. worked out lol'
[Sat Sep 22 04:41:14 2018] Cained tells you, 'but you deserv4ed that'
[Sat Sep 22 04:41:53 2018] Cained tells you, 'at least text me man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:03 2018] Cained tells you, 'lets do skype'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:11 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wanna talk to you im not mad at you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:21 2018] You told Cained, 'I have never used skype'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:32 2018] You told Cained, 'we talking now...'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:37 2018] Cained tells you, 'funny is i havnt either heh'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:45 2018] Cained tells you, 'im serious to'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:52 2018] Cained tells you, 'well whatever lets d something'
[Sat Sep 22 04:43:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wanna hear your voice man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:43:23 2018] Cained tells you, 'ri havnt posted to YOUR forum since'
[Sat Sep 22 04:43:26 2018] Cained tells you, 'you know why?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:43:31 2018] Cained tells you, 'because i said i wouldnt'
[Sat Sep 22 04:46:50 2018] Cained tells you, 'at least apologize like i said you wouuld'
[Sat Sep 22 04:47:34 2018] You told Cained, 'me apologize? I have, a number of times'
[Sat Sep 22 04:48:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'bro why cant we talk on the phone then?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:49:13 2018] You told Cained, 'just have to ask, are you drunk?'
[Sat Sep 22 04:50:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'dude im a marine i wish'
[Sat Sep 22 04:50:31 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wish i could'
[Sat Sep 22 04:50:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'call me brother just do it please'
[Sat Sep 22 04:50:54 2018] Cained tells you, 'i wont fuck with you'
[Sat Sep 22 04:51:06 2018] Cained tells you, 'ive been nice to you...to whole time'
[Sat Sep 22 04:51:45 2018] You told Cained, 'dude, I am not callin ya, not sure what your obsession is with me calling you.. sorry man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:53:03 2018] Cained tells you, 'ok'
[Sat Sep 22 04:53:17 2018] Cained tells you, 'but i told you to keep this between us'
[Sat Sep 22 04:53:35 2018] You told Cained, 'keep what between us'
[Sat Sep 22 04:53:39 2018] Cained tells you, 'i said quote you would ruin your rep and make mine stronger'
[Sat Sep 22 04:54:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'maybe you learned maybe not'
[Sat Sep 22 04:54:26 2018] Cained tells you, 'but you wont accuse someone again...which im happy for'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'I told you..you would apologize and you did'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:06 2018] Cained tells you, 'fuck off'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'im not gonna block you like you did'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:26 2018] Cained tells you, 'because im a man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:40 2018] Cained tells you, 'say your peace kid'
[Sat Sep 22 04:57:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'oh...it wasnt twitch..it was youtube haha i had video evidence the whole time dumbas hahahaahahahh'
[Sat Sep 22 04:57:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'i love you'
[Sat Sep 22 05:05:07 2018] Cained tells you, 'cab you accuse me of other shit maybe i can get more loot'
[Sat Sep 22 05:06:06 2018] You told Cained, 'I will post our conversation tonight, maybe that will help you with that?'
[Sat Sep 22 05:06:16 2018] Cained tells you, 'ya maybe'
[Sat Sep 22 05:06:30 2018] Cained tells you, 'you liar'
[Sat Sep 22 05:06:49 2018] Cained tells you, 'im done reading the forums'
[Sat Sep 22 05:07:01 2018] Cained tells you, 'only started because of you'
[Sat Sep 22 05:07:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'now that i have evidence'
[Sat Sep 22 05:07:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'you feel stupid'
[Sat Sep 22 05:08:11 2018] You told Cained, 'I don't feel stupid, not even the slightest.. why would I? I posted exactly what happened'
[Sat Sep 22 05:08:49 2018] Cained tells you, 'just so you know I log everything now...you cant lie anymore liar'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:07 2018] You told Cained, 'I never lied about a single thing actually'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:10 2018] Cained tells you, 'and im gonna post our conversation before i quit'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:27 2018] Cained tells you, 'haha what an idiot...blaming me and then still mad at me'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:31 2018] Cained tells you, 'how?'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:34 2018] Cained tells you, 'how?'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'im innocent ?? how'
[Sat Sep 22 05:09:55 2018] Cained tells you, 'dont worrk ill post that all'
[Sat Sep 22 05:10:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'dont worry it will all be posted'
[Sat Sep 22 05:10:42 2018] Cained tells you, 'this will ne the exact line,.....boom...hi p99 forums'
[Sat Sep 22 05:10:50 2018] Cained tells you, 'the last line hello'
[Sat Sep 22 05:11:33 2018] Cained tells you, 'you have 1 minutes until i post get a line in'
[Sat Sep 22 05:11:44 2018] Cained tells you, 'you cant ignore than it will make you look obvious'
[Sat Sep 22 05:11:47 2018] Cained tells you, 'say something'
[Sat Sep 22 05:12:19 2018] Cained tells you, 'im serious,.....p99 forums just so you know its been 5 mins since i sent this'

[Elerial]

What kind of retard do you have to be to ground trade items to your toons in East Commons tunnel?

[Mead]

he just wants to hear your man voice

call him brother

[Phenyo]

just so you guys know armande / Phai just apologized....ummm hey all of you guys who thought i did it...im sorry but im a...oh what do they call it, damn i forgot..OH YEAH A United States Marine...fuck off

yikes

[Ravager]

And this is why we need name and shame threads.

[fortior]

what a fantastic thread OP, I hope your posting career will be long and very fruitful

[Muggens]

Lol wow

[jarshale]

stealing peoples ground transfers is a classic way to make some cash. totally within the rules you're fucked OP.

[Nixtar]

He's a marine, damn it! Let's sort this crippling misunderstanding like grown man-children playing a 20 year old elfsim. Seriously though, that was some sweet cringe. Bless you.

[Muggens]

Best thread in a long time. Thanks OP, id say even U claimed Cained would be found guilty by a trial, you didnt embarass urself nearly as much as the marine.
Who gave him the CoF(if true?

[Ghostly]

Just call me man, we can have fun!

[Mead]

for those of you that want the tl;dr

[Sat Sep 22 03:47:21 2018] Cained tells you, 'call me XXXXXX3016...so we can bury it'
[Sat Sep 22 03:47:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'just call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:02 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on bro'
[Sat Sep 22 03:48:06 2018] Cained tells you, 'please call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:50:29 2018] Cained tells you, 'just call dude its not what you think i ptromise'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'pls dude'
[Sat Sep 22 03:51:33 2018] Cained tells you, 'because i feel we are close now'
[Sat Sep 22 03:55:20 2018] Cained tells you, 'dudecome on call'
[Sat Sep 22 03:57:11 2018] Cained tells you, 'bro its not a game come on call XXXXXX3016'
[Sat Sep 22 04:03:27 2018] Cained tells you, 'come on man just call no funny shit i promise '
[Sat Sep 22 04:24:32 2018] Cained tells you, 'listen man...call me if you dont like it you can hang up immediately'
[Sat Sep 22 04:28:03 2018] Cained tells you, 'one last time XXXXXX3016 call me and have fun or whatever'
[Sat Sep 22 04:41:53 2018] Cained tells you, 'at least text me man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:42:03 2018] Cained tells you, 'lets do skype'
[Sat Sep 22 04:50:46 2018] Cained tells you, 'call me brother just do it please'

[Mead]

Cained is my new favorite person on the internet

[Schaduwridder]

gratz to him for finding your gaunts

Lol ill help you find them

HAHAHAH

[fastboy21]

fuck it...i'll call him. PM me the number.

[Zipity]

Hahaha he undoubtedly wants you to call him so he can tell you how well your guantlets of fiery might are treating him!

[Zipity]

Better yet take him up on the Skype offer and stream it... I’d tune in

[kained]

fuck it...i'll call him. PM me the number.

5109323016

[shuklak]

Nothing that cant be sorted out in a texas back alley near a pile of trash.

[Elerial]

He said PM the number because posting numbers/rl info and such is a bannable offense :D

[Mead]

He said PM the number because posting numbers/rl info and such is a bannable offense :D

It's his own number bub

[xolgax]

I'm in <Dial a Port> and I've done many transfers for people. Even when I wasn't in <Dial a Port> I would do transfers for people that asked me. I made several hundred PP selling for players killing guards. There is no item in this game I would give up my integrity for. Yes this is a game but my personal integrity is more important than pixels. -Mortz <Dial a Port>

[Ket]

I just did a transfer for a Lvl 21 Mage in Neriak, to their level 1 wizard.

Nothing went wrong, no phone numbers were exchanged, and the transfer was completed successfully.

[poofph]

I just did a transfer for a Lvl 21 Mage in Neriak, to their level 1 wizard.

Nothing went wrong, no phone numbers were exchanged, and the transfer was completed successfully.

lol

[Hibbs]

This has been a fantastic unfolding / read while sitting at work. Ty.

[Culainn]

Long live Cained, a true American hero.

[kained]

I was told by some Marine friends, that OP might be retarded...My doctor told me to let it go. So i will (in all my jokes this isn't one)

[ScaringChildren]

ScaringChildren HEY ASSHOLE lets apologize because from the beginning you thought i did it...haha you feel stupid now dont you??

You still did it. You logged onto another alt and picked them up.

Clearly.

[ScaringChildren]

You still did it. You logged onto another alt and picked them up.

Clearly.

Stop trying to call OP at 4am. He has a wife and kids. He doesn't want to fuck.

[Nixtar]

<3

Dat sweet tactical and battle hardened marine dick n ass doe.

Don't knock it till you cock it. No homeopathy.

[Ghostly]

[Sat Sep 22 04:55:26 2018] Cained tells you, 'because im a man'
[Sat Sep 22 04:55:40 2018] Cained tells you, 'say your peace kid'
[Sat Sep 22 04:57:04 2018] Cained tells you, 'oh...it wasnt twitch..it was youtube haha i had video evidence the whole time dumbas hahahaahahahh'
[Sat Sep 22 04:57:22 2018] Cained tells you, 'i love you'


Where is the missing portion of this? Looks like some messages were taken out where OP talked about twitch, but he deleted the lines?

[poofph]

Where is the missing portion of this? Looks like some messages were taken out where OP talked about twitch, but he deleted the lines?

There is nothing missing, the night the gloves went missing you said he was streaming on twitch and everyone was laughing at me (which he later told me he lied about).

[Dumluk]

Trump stole the gloves. Someone call Meuller.

[ScaringChildren]

Trump stole the gloves. Someone call Meuller.

Impeach with a 30 day raid ban

[Bordsythenewb]

I'm going to have to keep my eyes on the ground from now on.

[Lammy]

I can't figure out what's worse, caineds drinking problem or the fact that OP is a middle aged man, married with kids and still plays p99 til 4am

[Check12345]

I can't figure out what's worse, caineds drinking problem or the fact that OP is a middle aged man, married with kids and still plays p99 til 4am

its the drop transfers, right inside the ec tunnel

because finding a unique location a 3 min run from the ec tunnel is impossible now that i think it through

[Ahldagor]

Anyone never have trouble with drop transfers? Like how do you not wait until low population hours, secluded areas worth the run, and always having a high level druid in your character select to do all of it?

[shuklak]

I thought everyone just had their roommate log in.

[kained]

I can't figure out what's worse, caineds drinking problem or the fact that OP is a middle aged man, married with kids and still plays p99 til 4am

Wanna get a drink?

[Swish2]

Anyone never have trouble with drop transfers? Like how do you not wait until low population hours, secluded areas worth the run, and always having a high level druid in your character select to do all of it?

East Freeport has many quiet buildings. You're welcome.

[ScaringChildren]

East Freeport has many quiet buildings. You're welcome.

So does West Freeport and North Freeport.

It's so easy to find a spot with no traffic, it amazes me that people get their stuff taken.

[poofph]

player named Justeaze picked it up

[fortior]

nobody cares about your fucking gloves dude, go play diablo 3 or something.

[ScaringChildren]

I care.

Get Justeaze in here and let's get some drama percolating.

[Triode]

Moral of the story: irrespective of the circumstantial evidence, accusing others of pixel theft may result in an amorous marine badgering you for late night skype lovin' and refusing to take no for an answer. Yikes.

[poofph]

nobody cares about your fucking gloves dude, go play diablo 3 or something.

Apparently lots of people cared about those gloves including your dumb ass.

[Hibbs]

I wouldn't be doing any ground transfers with how shaky the servers have been lately! yikes

[Ghostly]

Apparently lots of people cared about those gloves including your dumb ass.

Nope... literally no one gave a shit.

Everyone was here for the drama. No one cares that you ground transferred in the busiest zone in the game right next to other players because as soon as you said that, we all knew you were a scrub.

But its cool, get angry, lash out, because that's exactly what everyone here wants to see.

[Mead]

player named Justeaze picked it up

https://i.imgur.com/Sdinjmo.gif

[fortior]

Apparently lots of people cared about those gloves including your dumb ass.

people love dogpiling on you because you're a fun idiot who makes us all feel better about ourselves, hth