View Full Version : What is the absolute WORST zone in the game? VOTE NOW
ScaringChildren
08-28-2018, 01:25 PM
I took all the "Least Favorite" zones from Topgunben's lovely post about Favorite/Least Favorite zones and I'm determined to find out which one is the absolute worst. :cool:
skarlorn
08-28-2018, 01:28 PM
Dalnir
ScaringChildren
08-28-2018, 01:28 PM
Vote in the poll
Gatordash
08-28-2018, 01:36 PM
Vote in the poll
Trakanon's Teeth
ScaringChildren
08-28-2018, 01:38 PM
I forgot to add "Bush burned down Kurn's Tower"
Schaduwridder
08-28-2018, 01:58 PM
swamp of no hope
#2 worst lesser fay
#3 worst emerald jungle
#4 befallen
#5 queynos sewers
clevergirl
08-28-2018, 04:26 PM
Veeshans peek and ntov / tov. Sleepers Tomb.
The items are fine, the stats are not. Shit like +100 mana flowing thought V doesn't belong in EQ.
trist4n
08-28-2018, 05:02 PM
Whichever zone just got Core their 3rd 30day in a row. That's the worst one.
For real though -- the actual answer is skyshrine.
Cecily
08-28-2018, 05:08 PM
Whichever zone just got Core their 3rd 30day in a row. That's the worst one.
For real though -- the actual answer is skyshrine.
That would be Plane of Hate, I think? Agreed. Hate is the fucking devil's asshole.
branamil
08-28-2018, 05:09 PM
We should define "worst" as brought the least amount of enjoyment to players. Answers probably stonebrunt mountains. Only 3 people have been there in servers history because it's such a nutache to get there. And when you finally do it's absurdly large and therefore mostly empty and boring.
Tetsuo
08-28-2018, 05:13 PM
Greater faydark without sense heading, shortly followed by brownie roots at level 30 running to mistmoore while being chased by a unicorn.
bigjeff100
08-28-2018, 05:15 PM
We should define "worst" as brought the least amount of enjoyment to players. Answers probably stonebrunt mountains. Only 3 people have been there in servers history because it's such a nutache to get there. And when you finally do it's absurdly large and therefore mostly empty and boring.
Haha count me in as one who has gone to Stonebrunt! Only went there cause i had never been on live. I did find the zone a tad neat for a first timer though! The panda's, and Kerran's!? But yeah.. The trip out that far sucks, the exp modifier sucks, that stuff needs to be removed man.
DromalPhrenia
08-28-2018, 07:35 PM
We should define "worst" as brought the least amount of enjoyment to players. Answers probably stonebrunt mountains. Only 3 people have been there in servers history because it's such a nutache to get there. And when you finally do it's absurdly large and therefore mostly empty and boring.
I was just there the other day. It's gigantic! I think trying to solo the even-con Enormous Freakin Panda there was the first time I saw the message "Your target is immune to changes in its run speed" instead of just a resist.
Stonebrunt is definitely not the greatest zone but nothing compares to Swamp of No Hope imo. It's not good for EXP, it's ugly, the named mobs don't have any loot, there's no good quests... it's just a waste of a zone. I can't think of any redeeming qualities and I was annoyed as hell when I went there for my Iksar illusion quest. :mad:
Daloon
08-28-2018, 07:55 PM
Skyshrine for its massive size yet largely underutilized.
Senescant
08-28-2018, 08:15 PM
PoM for somehow being a raid zone because it has the word plane in its name...
fan D
08-28-2018, 08:16 PM
burning woods.
BW/DL zoneline is the worst in the game, impossible to find
shitty mobs and stupid hornets everywhere. the giants look like bozo
nothin good drops in here, cant find any redeeming qualities. the outside of Chardok could be really kewl but it aint
Dartagnan
08-28-2018, 08:17 PM
Kithicor
Gee, let's put high lvl undead crap right next to a newbie zone. SCREW THIS ZONE!!!111one
Cecily
08-28-2018, 08:56 PM
That's the best part of Kithicor, besides the backstory of how the undead got there.
aaezil
08-28-2018, 08:58 PM
Easy
ToV
Next?
Wonkie
08-28-2018, 09:37 PM
Whichever zone just got Core their 3rd 30day in a row. That's the worst one.
For real though -- the actual answer is skyshrine.
the p99 deep state is censoring patriotic elfs
ScaringChildren
08-28-2018, 09:54 PM
the p99 deep state is censoring patriotic elfs
The Russians probably hacked this poll
jakerees
08-28-2018, 09:57 PM
Why is east commonlands not an option because that is easily the worst zone by far like as soon as you zone into it you are bombarded with auction text so much so that your own auctions like WTB Shaman Epic MQ 5k get completely ignored so the zone isn't useful for trying to buy things and plus it is completely overrun with newbies who come far and wide to hunt whilst being dependent on free buffs at the tunnel and level 20 something wannabe tailors running around taking all the bears so they can make some money and then you have the odd griffin roaming around ready to beat people down but I guess the ruins in the sand by the zone wall is a good place to pray with the other NPC worshipers that gather around it but ultimately it is the zone that is best to avoid like more so than any of the other ones but I will agree if we start setting up the east commonlands tunnel in any of those other zones like Plane of Hate or ToV then those would get my vote but until then this poll can suck it and I will be happy to hand over 5k for my auction. How about we try going all
Legday
08-29-2018, 08:16 AM
How is West Karana not running away with this?
ScaringChildren
08-29-2018, 08:19 AM
Why is east commonlands not an option
These options are based on all of the "Least Favorite" zones from another thread.
No one mentioned EC on the other thread.
Nirgon
08-29-2018, 09:01 AM
East commons tunnel and the non classic economy here
Muggens
08-29-2018, 09:08 AM
Tov, hate, skyshrine and sky are sucky zones. Atleast theres a neat froglok village in Swamp of No Hope
Valakut
08-29-2018, 09:10 AM
qeynos sewers
Ella`Ella
08-29-2018, 09:12 AM
East commons tunnel and the non classic economy here
How does a purist like you dislike EC?
Tuurin
08-29-2018, 10:53 AM
Most obvious answer is not even listed- Lake Rathetear. Pointless zone in the middle of nowhere that brings nothing to the table other than certain classes that are required to do some penance epic work there.
Of those listed plane of sky is worst for me. Corpse-dragging shenanigans/keys/hitboxes make every visit a pain imo.
suptoofs
08-29-2018, 12:43 PM
That would be Plane of Hate, I think? Agreed. Hate is the fucking devil's asshole.
100% agree, devil's asshole all the way!
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 01:48 PM
Whichever zone just got Core their 3rd 30day in a row. That's the worst one.
For real though -- the actual answer is skyshrine.
Why the hate for Skyshrine?
azeth
08-29-2018, 01:51 PM
Why is east commonlands not an option because that is easily the worst zone by far like as soon as you zone into it you are bombarded with auction text so much so that your own auctions like WTB Shaman Epic MQ 5k get completely ignored so the zone isn't useful for trying to buy things and plus it is completely overrun with newbies who come far and wide to hunt whilst being dependent on free buffs at the tunnel and level 20 something wannabe tailors running around taking all the bears so they can make some money and then you have the odd griffin roaming around ready to beat people down but I guess the ruins in the sand by the zone wall is a good place to pray with the other NPC worshipers that gather around it but ultimately it is the zone that is best to avoid like more so than any of the other ones but I will agree if we start setting up the east commonlands tunnel in any of those other zones like Plane of Hate or ToV then those would get my vote but until then this poll can suck it and I will be happy to hand over 5k for my auction. How about we try going all
this is a good read, if you read it like its written... period-less. I imagine this is how Vince Vaughn speaks
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:05 PM
How is West Karana not running away with this?
I see what you did there.
Schaduwridder
08-29-2018, 02:06 PM
karanas are peaceful and fun and have cool music in little sections.
karanas are everquest, if you don't like karanas you probably don't even like EQ
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:07 PM
How is West Karana not running away with this?
Only zone where you can /follow a Bard and go take a 15-minute steamer and come back with 20 minutes to spare.
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:13 PM
karanas are peaceful and fun and have cool music in little sections.
karanas are everquest, if you don't like karanas you probably don't even like EQ
Western Karana:
You can listen to an entire ~70 minute DJ mix and not even be close to reaching a zone line.
The Ancient Cyclops spawns at least twice in other zones before you finish crossing this one.
It's the only zone where you can *actually* see the paint drying.
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:14 PM
Western Karana:
The only thing that takes longer is waiting for one of the fucking boats.
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:24 PM
Truth be told, the Timorous Deep is probably the actual worst considering the total number of linkdead bodies that particular section of the ocean has gradually swallowed up.
Cecily
08-29-2018, 02:25 PM
Traveling across the Karanas is incredibly overblown for actual time to cross.
Eh. One time I got killed by a hill giant in EK while I was buying from a vendor on live. This experience scared me and I had no idea what was else was in the Karanas after that so I hid/snuck the entirety of WK on my CR coming from Qeynos. I probably set a record for slowest passage.
ScaringChildren
08-29-2018, 02:27 PM
Western Karana:
The only thing that takes longer is waiting for one of the fucking boats.
https://i.imgur.com/fYUcM9N.png
AkashicRecord
08-29-2018, 02:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fYUcM9N.png
gold
Bummey
08-29-2018, 02:37 PM
HALAS. Home of the barbarian rogue twinks stab-themed names.
Bummey
08-29-2018, 02:37 PM
with
Achromatic
08-29-2018, 10:07 PM
Qeynos Sewers is actually awesome for the level range. Lots of nice loot to be had for the levels too. It's a damn shame it rarely gets any traffic.
Gilder
08-31-2018, 02:00 PM
I feel like Kedge is just highest voted because people have died there and rage quit and never went back. It's definitely one of the most unique dungeons.
How Dagnor's Cauldron only has 8 votes is beyond me. That zone is beyond boring and such a pain to walk into. That was my vote, though I was tempted to go Emerald Jungle just because it's such low visibility, high aggro zone.
Schaduwridder
08-31-2018, 04:17 PM
kedge is awesome if you learn it
as a player of mage / wizard you will have to learn it to lead people to phinny and it also holds some very cool camps, seahorse cloak is $ 35 cold
Tethler
08-31-2018, 09:43 PM
How Dagnor's Cauldron only has 8 votes is beyond me. That zone is beyond boring and such a pain to walk into. That was my vote, though I was tempted to go Emerald Jungle just because it's such low visibility, high aggro zone.
I alllllmost voted Dagnor's just for that unnecessary 5 mile long canyon run when you zone in. Ended up voting EJ because the zone has 0 redeeming qualities other than a dragon every however many days. Nothing worth camping for loot and xp is meh. Just a passthrough zone that is harder than other passthrough zones due to shitty visibility from all off the huge hills everywhere (mainly going to/from CoM).
Jorgam
08-31-2018, 10:42 PM
Voted!
Straight screw Burning Woods. PoS zone.
Swish2
09-01-2018, 01:23 AM
Swamp of No Hope definitely...can't newbie zone it too well, not worth leveling in it further along, 10/10 waste of space zone.
Jimjam
09-01-2018, 01:58 AM
It's like the Devs forgot to itemise it too, Swish.
My vote is for CSHome.
gredoo
09-01-2018, 07:59 AM
I don't like the big zones because they make my laptop lag :(
matticas
09-01-2018, 08:17 AM
Arena
Bloodson
09-01-2018, 08:28 PM
Voted!
Straight screw Burning Woods. PoS zone.
+1
The number of times i got lost even just following the wall. dumb. can't even run with the wall because invisible barriers come out of nowhere
Asteria
09-16-2018, 04:33 AM
Why is east commonlands not an option because that is easily the worst zone by far like as soon as you zone into it you are bombarded with auction text so much so that your own auctions like WTB Shaman Epic MQ 5k get completely ignored so the zone isn't useful for trying to buy things and plus it is completely overrun with newbies who come far and wide to hunt whilst being dependent on free buffs at the tunnel and level 20 something wannabe tailors running around taking all the bears so they can make some money and then you have the odd griffin roaming around ready to beat people down but I guess the ruins in the sand by the zone wall is a good place to pray with the other NPC worshipers that gather around it but ultimately it is the zone that is best to avoid like more so than any of the other ones but I will agree if we start setting up the east commonlands tunnel in any of those other zones like Plane of Hate or ToV then those would get my vote but until then this poll can suck it and I will be happy to hand over 5k for my auction. How about we try going all
Tunnelquest ruining the ambiance of lowbie orc and wildlife hunting.
Kerra Isle is the worst - This had the potential to be a very good city. What became Cats on the Moon could have just been Cats on Odus without making them a playable race. Odus could have been a greater destination with more quests & merchants here; maybe some class trainers like WAR, ROG, SHM.
Cecily
09-16-2018, 10:19 AM
Odus definitely got neglected. The idea of two warring factions on the island should have been fleshed out more.
XeroKill
09-16-2018, 03:19 PM
I feel like Kedge is just highest voted because people have died there and rage quit and never went back. It's definitely one of the most unique dungeons.
How Dagnor's Cauldron only has 8 votes is beyond me. That zone is beyond boring and such a pain to walk into. That was my vote, though I was tempted to go Emerald Jungle just because it's such low visibility, high aggro zone.
Unique =/= Good
Kedge, or any underwater encounter in EQ is pure, unadulterated ass cancer. A zone that is completely underwater is stage 4 ass cancer. Even the evac point in this hell-hole is among the most retarded design this game has ever seen, dropping players smack in the middle of 4 mobs. "Oh, are you in dire trouble and need to use this highly situational spell designed entirely to remove your party from a shit-storm? Well here you go... another SHIT-STORM!"
It got my vote.
Baler
09-16-2018, 03:19 PM
ToV
The fact Sol A and Sol B are even options on this list is ridiculous. Two of the best zones in the game.
I'm going to go off script and say North Karana. If it didn't have the portals and serve as a link between the other Karanas, there would be almost no reason to ever go there. Super generic zone that offers basically nothing except access to other zones.
Check12345
09-19-2018, 10:45 AM
How is West Karana not running away with this?
Yeap!
#TeamWestKarana
d3r14k
09-19-2018, 10:48 AM
WK doesn't seem so awful if you can succor. It is an enormous, desolate zone, but at least it doesn't feel broken the way Kedge does.
Check12345
09-19-2018, 10:52 AM
Unique =/= Good
Kedge, or any underwater encounter in EQ is pure, unadulterated ass cancer. A zone that is completely underwater is stage 4 ass cancer. Even the evac point in this hell-hole is among the most retarded design this game has ever seen, dropping players smack in the middle of 4 mobs. "Oh, are you in dire trouble and need to use this highly situational spell designed entirely to remove your party from a shit-storm? Well here you go... another SHIT-STORM!"
It got my vote.
https://i.imgur.com/A0D7x3D.gif
Dying in Kedge is a right of passage, like all original dungeons.
In era the evac point was butcher or fay anyhow.
Venjenz
09-19-2018, 10:59 AM
Lesser Fay.
As said in the thread that prompted the poll - does anyone ever do anything in LFay besides hug the zone wall on the way to Mistmoore, kill the Nybright sisters, or run away from brownie scouts and/or the dumbass unicorn?
Dagnors gets 2nd and SoNH gets 3rd for basically the same reason. They are just wastes of space that exist to slow down something and add either unnecessary danger and/or unnecessary tedium.
Check12345
09-19-2018, 11:10 AM
WK doesn't seem so awful if you can succor. It is an enormous, desolate zone, but at least it doesn't feel broken the way Kedge does.
There was that 'one weird trick' involving camping at the river just as you zone in from NK... that popped you across the zone.
That damn ogre camp killed me more than a few times as a nooblet on live.
Bummey
09-19-2018, 01:40 PM
5 other people correctly know that Halas is the worst zone in everquest
XeroKill
09-19-2018, 07:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/A0D7x3D.gif
Dying in Kedge is a right of passage, like all original dungeons.
In era the evac point was butcher or fay anyhow.
None of which addresses the critique of the current zone. If dying in Kedge is a right of passage then the passage is meaningless because everyone has died there... dozens of times. The current evac point is a room in the zone with four mobs in the room where you spawn and several more right outside. So if you get into trouble, there is practically nothing you can do but bend over and take it.
Kimmie
09-19-2018, 07:40 PM
Why does Kedge have most votes?????
Poll is for 'worst' zone....not best
DromalPhrenia
09-19-2018, 07:55 PM
Lesser Fay.
As said in the thread that prompted the poll - does anyone ever do anything in LFay besides hug the zone wall on the way to Mistmoore, kill the Nybright sisters, or run away from brownie scouts and/or the dumbass unicorn?
Dagnors gets 2nd and SoNH gets 3rd for basically the same reason. They are just wastes of space that exist to slow down something and add either unnecessary danger and/or unnecessary tedium.
I feel like Nybright sisters and things like the Brownie village and unicorn(s?) make LFay better than Dagnors and Swamp. Low levels can go there for at least the one camp. Bakers get a place to farm parts for chocolate. I'm going to push again for my vote of Swamp of No Hope, which fails as a zone in every way.
It is shitty for experience.
It is shitty for loot.
It is shitty to look at.
It is shitty to travel through.
It is a shitty zone!
Check12345
09-19-2018, 07:58 PM
None of which addresses the critique of the current zone. If dying in Kedge is a right of passage then the passage is meaningless because everyone has died there... dozens of times. The current evac point is a room in the zone with four mobs in the room where you spawn and several more right outside. So if you get into trouble, there is practically nothing you can do but bend over and take it.
Sir, I think I understand. So that will be a number 1, no tomato and a coke? Please drive up to the second window.
:D
mr_jon3s
09-19-2018, 08:58 PM
Ummm wheres permafrost?
d3r14k
09-19-2018, 09:21 PM
Ummm wheres permafrost?
Wasn't there a dude who leveled 1 to 50 without ever leaving Permafrost and Halas?
Kesselring
09-19-2018, 09:46 PM
Kedge is cool not sure why its there, swamp of no hope is a newbie swimmers nightmare, and ya you can stick to the edges but have you ever made a troll and leveled there? Try it.
NegaStoat
09-19-2018, 10:54 PM
Swamp of No Hope has the most bullshit mob pathing patterns in existence, making it fucking unusable unless you're leveling off of Iksars in the caves by Trak Teeth entrance. I can't blame the P1999 devs for fucking up the proper pathing for the mobs (same issue with the bulk of the random wandering mobs in Kunark zones) because documentation for them is slim or none, but goddamn it's bad.
Zuranthium
09-22-2018, 01:12 AM
My least favorite is Befallen because it's so unimaginative, straight out of some kind of stereotypical D&D undead dungeon box, and the zone is such a pain in the ass to play through as an actual lowbie dungeon, without any great rewards either (aside from one camp that does drop a good low/mid level weapon for tank classes). Never had any good experiences there.
And now a big rebuttle to everyone who's hating on outdoor zones:
Most obvious answer is not even listed- Lake Rathetear. Pointless zone in the middle of nowhere that brings nothing to the table other than certain classes that are required to do some penance epic work there.
Lake Rathe is a great leveling spot for the earlier levels and was full of people back in the day. I think the zone design is cool too.
How Dagnor's Cauldron only has 8 votes is beyond me. That zone is beyond boring and such a pain to walk into. That was my vote, though I was tempted to go Emerald Jungle just because it's such low visibility, high aggro zone.
It's always been a big disappointment how little there is to do in Dagnor's, but I think it looks unique, so it has that going for it. The zone at least gives Unrest much more mystique, because of the travel required to get there.
I love forest zones like Emerald Jungle and on PvP servers you get some really fun fights there. I do wish actually hunting in the zone was more relevant though, and in my ideal conception of the game world there would be a boat going from Steamfont Mountains to the Northeast corner of EJ.
Lesser Fay.
As said in the thread that prompted the poll - does anyone ever do anything in LFay besides hug the zone wall on the way to Mistmoore, kill the Nybright sisters, or run away from brownie scouts and/or the dumbass unicorn?
I would never pick big zones that you can get lost in as a worst, because that in itself is interesting to me. People did camp things here during Original EQ, the orcs and bandits and faeries, and also the NPC's next to the Steamfont zoneline. Hugging the wall to MM is very inefficient, it was actually something of a rite of passage back then to be able to run in a straight line across the zone. Also for PvP, being in such a dark area when coming out of MM adds an interesting dynamic. So it's definitely not a bad zone at all, it added mystery and danger to that area of the game, even if it could have included more content.
I'm going to go off script and say North Karana. If it didn't have the portals and serve as a link between the other Karanas, there would be almost no reason to ever go there. Super generic zone that offers basically nothing except access to other zones.
People hunted in North Karana in classic, because of the decent amount of wandering mobs that could be found within a close enough proximity. The gypsy quest for greater lightstones is here too and that was one of the very best ways to generate cash.
How is West Karana not running away with this?
West Karana is a very good zone, the bandits and scarecrows and giants and ogres were all constantly camped, also the guards from Qeynos at the towers, LOL! The expansive size of the zone did a lot to create a feeling of Antonica being a realistically difficult continent to travel across, and the open plainsland with all the farms gave a sense of this being where the "common people" of the western world lived.
The constant river to the south and the hills/forrests to north, where the bandits and scary creatures roamed, created a cool feeling too, of varied topography and evil lurking that posed a constant danger to the common man. There was a werewolf that ran around terrorizing players too!
Granted, I will say the East half of this zone could have been more interesting. Everything I just talked about was in the West half. Even in that regard though, it mirrors trying to drive across the United States. Ever been through Kansas? It's nothing but endless flatland. So okay, I would have liked to see more in the zone still, I've always wanted it to be more possible for groups to just roam around a zone like this, killing monsters a method of exping/adventuring (which would greatly benefit Rangers as being beneficial to track things), but this zone was VERY important to the game.
Videri
09-22-2018, 01:24 AM
Great post, Zuranthium. To add to Lesser Faydark’s value, there is the bandit sisters’ camp (good plat on P99), there is a little-known named cycle of 5 mobs including Crookstinger. One of the other mobs drops an item with 5 charges of Illusion: Tree; and there is Kalayia Woodwhisper, a quest mob for the classic Cazic Thule Erudite Cleric quest for the Fright Forged Helm, quite a unique early-game item.
I’m shocked at the votes for Kedge Keep being a bad zone. Is it due to the pathing issues it used to have? Or just because it’s underwater? I’m surprised there are so many noobs that can’t handle a water level. You can wedge yourself in a corner to cast spells more easily while being hit. There are several fun, challenging camps with unique items that were valuable in classic era, and the last Kedge! It’s a cool zone and people shoudn’t knock it just because it’s hard to swim.
LEAVE PHINNY ALONE!
Videri
09-22-2018, 01:35 AM
LFay also has 2 Gnome NPCs: Happ Dremblenod and Trudo Frugrin. Killing those two NPCs is one the only ways to raise faction with The Dead in Neriak (another way is killing the named Gnome prisoner in Crushbone).
I have also read that Happ was used as an easy exp mob by some players, perhaps due to her low hp pool and a 6ish minute respawn. She is a mage with a pet, though, so that probably offsets it somewhat. I guess this was back in that early era when Everquest’s population was high and people would find all these weird places to just grind exp that modern min-maxing pro-geeks now see as suboptimal choices.
Anyway, Lesser Faydark has its hidden treasures and secrets for the curious!
Videri
09-22-2018, 01:38 AM
Also, the Qeynos sewers are GRATE.
Dolalin
09-22-2018, 04:27 AM
The reason Dalnir is so unbalanced now is because:
A) There are so many casters
B) This server has non-classic caster AI
Back in classic, casters were useless. They would nuke and occasionally dispell, that was it. No charm, no stuns, no mez, possibly some healing but that was about it. The original strat for Velketor was to keep him casting as much as possible because one ice comet was far better than three rounds of attack. He never casted anything like supernova etc.
When they tuned Dalnir they tuned it for classic (read: useless) caster AI. It was probably acceptable.
Jimjam
09-22-2018, 09:02 PM
Wasn't there a dude who leveled 1 to 50 without ever leaving Permafrost and Halas?
I was doing that on a 'self found' barbarian shaman. Up to 29 so far.
Probably overdue on an XP push.
I found a 'large dire wolf' which is like level 24 that can be pulled to the XP area and befriended.
Topgunben
09-23-2018, 01:15 AM
I took all the "Least Favorite" zones from Topgunben's lovely post about Favorite/Least Favorite zones and I'm determined to find out which one is the absolute worst. :cool:
I am surprised to see swamp of no hope as a repeat winner. I actually like that zone, I don't get why all the hate.
Muggens
09-23-2018, 11:32 AM
^ the Swamp of No Hope is actually rather charming - froglok village is good to visit
Mistle
09-23-2018, 12:29 PM
Mons Letalis.
Oh wait. Heh. You poor saps.
Lojik
09-25-2018, 01:42 PM
I voted tox but maybe I think swamp of no hope is worse? I never tried to level an iksar there but I assume it would be pretty shitty. A shame the frog village isn't fun to fight in, but I can't imagine the shitty pathing and them falling off etc. that would occur.
I actually really don't care for Nurga. I know some people find spots to hunt there that are pretty good I guess, but I don't see how eq needed two goblin dungeons so close to each other, and if I'm remembering correctly from one thread someone posted that nurga and kerra isle consistently had the fewest amount of people on /who. That was years back though.
Kedge I think is kinda cool, BW I have a weird soft spot for, WK I like, DC I could see being a shitty zone I just kinda think of it as a passthrough zone so it doesn't evoke much emotion from me. Plane of Sky I think is kinda cool, but RAIDING plane of sky is the absolute fucking worst.
BarackObooma
09-25-2018, 05:03 PM
Timorous Deep really needs to be on that list!
Danth
09-25-2018, 05:35 PM
...but I don't see how eq needed two goblin dungeons so close to each other
Droga and Nurga are linked internally in much the same manner as Upper and Lower Guk or Sol-A and Sol-B, although the relationship is more similar to that of the Guk zones. Nurga also has a distinctly unfinished feel to it. There aren't a lot of named, not much in the way of itemization, and large portions of the zone contain nothing of substantial interest. Swamp of No Hope has that same sort of unfinished feel. These zones were, I think, early harbingers of what was to come: Future expansions would contain more incomplete content as one expansion after the next was quickly rushed out in cash-grab fashion.
I regard Sky as the worst zone because it's bad in spite of receiving full development. Its flaws are of a fundamental nature rather than being due to lack of attention.
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Daallee
09-28-2018, 10:48 AM
Srsly no Gorge of King Xorbb in this poll?
Ruhtar
09-28-2018, 11:51 AM
It's a toss up between Kedge and BW for me.
Kedge is just like the ocean irl. All water and not an environment your toon (or real self) should be in if you value being in control of a situation. Your character is slower than normal, you have to have levi and EB up in some form, and if you're a caster, you have to put your back to a wall to get any cast off with a mob on you (sometimes even without). Not to mention the zone is confusing if you're not familiar with it and mermaids suck.
Burning Woods is ok if you're a bard and semi ok if you're a sow class, but if you lack mobility spells/songs and invis, you can get shit on pretty quick. Pathing sarnaks all over the damn zone, most of which seem to have sow and love to root and dot you. Named gorillas that like to blend in with other gorillas and they just hope you do any form of damage to them so they can summon your ass. Giants, wurms and other shitty mobs just litter the rest of the place. Honestly the skeletons and wasps are the least threatening, but can swarm you pretty easily depending what part of the zone you're in. And all of this is in a zone that decided to put a shitload of trees everywhere, specifically on the edges of the zone where zone lines would be. The only zone I can find on a consistent basis is skyfire and that's because I know it's in the NW and there's a dead tree that stands alone on a slope where the path to zl starts. Second easiest is Chardok, then FM. Then it goes hardmode with DL. I've died more than once trying to find DL before.
I went with Kedge though because no matter how familiar I get with that zone, nothing will correct the mechanics in place for underwater gameplay.
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