hey chanters

[Jauna]

breeze/clarity/c2 is not a fucking tip for a port, its customary.

[suptoofs]

breeze/clarity/c2 is not a fucking tip for a port, its customary.

+1

[jombo]

+1

-1

[Aadill]

0

[Pringles]

would you rather us close window through task manager to simulate a disconnect instead?

[Foxplay]

When I'm on my enc I always tip when calling DaP

There is only 2 exceptions to this

1) I'm in CS and need a port I will /ooc "c2+GoB+enlighten for port to X" - this will almost always get me a port from someone quadding as its well worth their mana for the mind buffs to exp off of for awhile. This is a by choice exchange for them

2) Someone asks or offers to port me for mind buffs

Aside from that I will always tip at least 50p (more if they are fast) when ordering a pickup from DaP or in very rare circumstances a non-DaP druid/wiz

[azeth]

When I'm on my enc I always tip when calling DaP

There is only 2 exceptions to this

1) I'm in CS and need a port I will /ooc "c2+GoB+enlighten for port to X" - this will almost always get me a port from someone quadding as its well worth their mana for the mind buffs to exp off of for awhile. This is a by choice exchange for them

2) Someone asks or offers to port me for mind buffs

Aside from that I will always tip at least 50p (more if they are fast) when ordering a pickup from DaP or in very rare circumstances a non-DaP druid/wiz

DAP pushed their agenda so hard for years that people seem to consider 50p as cheap. 50p is exactly what I pay for ports.

Also, the term "tip" drives me nuts. Its not a tip this day in age, you're porting for plat, therefore its a fee.

[skarlorn]

I don't pay 50p when I give a c2. I give 20 or 30 and c2. Deal with it.

[ScaringChildren]

Then charge for ports.

When you give people the option to "tip" you, then don't be surprised when people give you what they think is valuable.

[Ghostly]

breeze/clarity/c2 is not a fucking tip for a port, its customary.

People pay for C and C2, so why wouldn't it be considered a tip?

[Ella`Ella]

DAP pushed their agenda so hard for years that people seem to consider 50p as cheap. 50p is exactly what I pay for ports.

Also, the term "tip" drives me nuts. Its not a tip this day in age, you're porting for plat, therefore its a fee.

^ 100%.

If you ask me 50p in exchange for a port, I will pay you 50p. If you ask me for a tip (which you shouldn't even ask...), you'll find I'm far more generous.

It's like when they add that 15% gratuity included for parties of 6 or more... That's fine, charge me the 15%. I would have tipped more.

[bigjeff100]

People pay for C and C2, so why wouldn't it be considered a tip?

This is crazy man thinking......

[ScaringChildren]

I typically do 1p per level, with a 15p minimum (and I rarely if ever port when I'm lower level)

[gkmarino]

I never consider just C2 as payment for a port that is cheapo-shit. C2 costs like 115mana.. literally you're not even trading mana with the porter fairly.

I only occasionally offer full package instead of payment and that costs 765 mana total to buff you. C2 + GOB + WIS and I also confirm with them if that's okay before the port is scheduled, I mostly pay on my enchanter + C2 and all my other classes pay.

[Jauna]

People pay for C and C2, so why wouldn't it be considered a tip?

people trade c and c2 for sow, when was the last time you paid for a sow?

[Vianna]

Jauna just sounds greedy and mad. If the enchanter gives you C2 you at least got something out of the deal.

[snyder43]

C2 gives 11 mana/tick or 3850 mana over 35 minutes.

Ports cost 300 mana.

C2 allows you to port up to 12 more times than if you didn't have C2 in that 35 minute period.

[katrik]

+2 fuck guys who do this.

[Hashed]

Have fun medding.

[skarlorn]

OP do you cast sow and lev, see invis and inivs every port?

(it's customary)

[Tuurin]

Porting for cash is stupid. Go kill FS-dropping mobs and save yourself the headache of getting stiffed on half of your fares.

Or better yet, just put the PoP books in already and save everyone the hassle.

[patrick210]

ur payn for a service cause ur too lazy to run, so yes pay decent. plat is ez to come by

and if ur able to c2, u should have enough plat to tip also, don't be a cheap bitch in a game jesus :)

[Mead]

Have fun medding.

[Wonkie]

i don't charge anything to put you on ignore if you bother me for a port

damn greedy DAPs

[Tetsuo]

Well if you're a wizard just accidently port them to hate

[skarlorn]

ur payn for a service cause ur too lazy to run, so yes pay decent. plat is ez to come by

and if ur able to c2, u should have enough plat to tip also, don't be a cheap bitch in a game jesus :)

excuse me, how is teleport more of a service than delivering crack cocaine spell

[Senix]

while on this subject it drives me nuts when someone says i'll tip for a potg then hands you 20-30pp, it's a 1200 mana spell. i stopped answering those tells long ago I could do 3 ports and make 90-150pp for that kinda of mana.

[Canelek]

I don't pay 50p when I give a c2. I give 20 or 30 and c2. Deal with it.

That seems reasonable.

[shuklak]

Tipping with clarity is like telling the pizza delivery boy h how fast they were... before you stiff them.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Tipping with clarity is like telling the pizza delivery boy h how fast they were... before you stiff them.

More like instead of tipping the pizza boy w cash you give him a cup full of gas for his car

[Jimjam]

More like instead of tipping the pizza boy w cash you give him a cup full of gas for his car

Its more like you convert his car to hybrid with solar panel generators.

[Jimjam]

Sorry you didn't get paid.

[Phenyo]

breeze/clarity/c2 is not a fucking tip for a port, its customary.

Sure is, enjoy your mana regen!

[Tethler]

Porting for plat! Also, trading sow for clarity! PST

[radda]

C2 gives 11 mana/tick or 3850 mana over 35 minutes.

Ports cost 300 mana.

C2 allows you to port up to 12 more times than if you didn't have C2 in that 35 minute period.

12 more times the enchanters needing ports

[ScaringChildren]

While on my Ranger, I tip porters with Invigor (which is an endurance regen buff).

Druids love me for it, they even get so excited that they forget to thank me for it.

It's okay, I know you're excited.

But please, try to thank me next time I give you an Invigor in return for something as trivial as a port.

[shuklak]

Don't forget to sow the druids.

[alsa]

I think this problem is a problem of risk vs reward. Most of player here would agree that the service of our "for profit" porters created here are very nice to have. The disagreement is how much is a port worth.

I think every porter have a price on their mind, price on how much a port (their time) is worth. And when that price is not reached, feels are hurt. One would simply ask, "why not just list out the price that you think is fair. So people who agree with that price will use your service and people who disagree will leave you alone."

Well that's where risk vs reward comes in. If a porter list out that each port will cost 50pp, they will risk loosing the one customer that will "tip" above their asking price. People are less likely to "tip" 80pp if you are only asking for 50pp. In the same time, they also risk loosing business to other porters who will only charge 45pp. But the reward here is they will unlikely to run into people who will put 5pp in the trade window after a port to CS running to SG and evac.

Other way to do is what most porter do here, they port for "tips" and not list a price. The risk and reward here are flipped. They will risk people "tip" them a useless buff or below their "asking" price. But their reward is that they have no price competition against other porters, they often are tipped with the average agreed porting fee, and once a while they will receive a big tip from a rich/happy customer.

I think it's almost impossible to have it both ways. Just know what you are getting into before you do it.

[shuklak]

Look at it this way... if porting for plat was entirely banned or eliminated then you're going to have maybe 1 person port for clarity before they go solo.

So if you just tip clarity, you're part of the problem.

[ScaringChildren]

Druids shouldn't get anything for their ports.

They're only clicking a spell, like how hard is that?

[Jauna]

enjoy your 45 min boatride

[Phenyo]

enjoy your 45 min boatride

Theres an endless supply of druids, you are replaceable

[Jauna]

Theres an endless supply of druids, you are replaceable

go ahead and piss them all off without paying in plat and see what happens

[Cecily]

I wonder how many druids have been made since 2010.

[ScaringChildren]

enjoy your 45 min boatride

The boat is better company

[Phenyo]

go ahead and piss them all off without paying in plat and see what happens

is this a challenge? Cause ill rise to it

[ScaringChildren]

the Druids never made Stonehenge

[skarlorn]

Druids eat my twig and berries and be damn grateful

[Wonkie]

druids are my celtic heritage and im enraged to see it colonized and appropriated by these hill goblins and tree-o-sexuals

[d3r14k]

Druids eat my twig and berries and be damn grateful

You watch your whore mouth!

[ScaringChildren]

My Welsh grandparents were filidhean naturalists and I swear on the holy sanctity of Brân Fendigaidd I will strike you down where'th you stand if you continue your insults

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Youre welcome to TIP ME any amount you would like to! I just /ignore the 55+ players who tip 5 or 10pp!

[ragnarr]

What if I give you an item worth 100pp?

[bigjeff100]

What if I give you an item worth 100pp?

In my druids bio, i have kept tabs on best tippers since my toon was created. Inspecting me will reveal my top 2 tips!

Black Bear Pelt Cloak
&
Totem of the Warrior Spirit

[radda]

the Druids never made Stonehenge

Rekt ‘ed

[Patriam1066]

Sorry you didn't get paid.

[Swish2]

I just /ignore the 55+ players who tip 5 or 10pp!

This is a great idea actually.

[Jauna]

Druids eat my twig and berries and be damn grateful

We forage bigger twigs and berries than what you have.

[Jauna]

What if I give you an item worth 100pp?

Yay now I get to waste time selling your item that you couldnt sell instead of getting some port cash flow and to top it all off some reseller will offer 50p to get those sweet gains off me.

[shuklak]

Imagine if all porters unionized. Those who didn't get blackballed from groups and guilds. It would be quite the undertaking, but you may well get something like standard pay up front for ports.

[Foxplay]

Imagine if all porters unionized. Those who didn't get blackballed from groups and guilds. It would be quite the undertaking, but you may well get something like standard pay up front for ports.

Imagine if you had to take the boats...

[Jauna]

Imagine if all porters unionized. Those who didn't get blackballed from groups and guilds. It would be quite the undertaking, but you may well get something like standard pay up front for ports.

Every day on my Wiz there are at least 5 warnings to others with names about level 60 people who tip 10p, or people who run off, or people who go LD while zoning and dont come back, or people who take off their visible gear and ask for a free CR port and them getting mad at the porter for inspecting them and get caught.

the best stories are the people who asked to be picked up in bumfuck no where and only tip 20p. I went to CoM to pick someone up once like 5 years ago and no fucking way im ever doing that again.

[d3r14k]

100pp for me to run to CoM to pick up someone. I don't mind making the run, it is basically pointing northeast, tapping autorun, and having just enough time to shitpost on the forums once or twice. 100pp will cover the 2 or 3 ports I could have done in the time it took me to run to you, so it is a win/win.

[ScaringChildren]

I always:


Pay 1p per level, so 60p at 60.

Find and be at rings before I even contact a porter.

Buff them in addition to payment, if possible.

Say "Thanks!" and "Good Luck!"

Defend their tight sexy bodies from attack

Stare.

Stare with intent to rape.

[SamwiseRed]

you should be greatful someone let your bitch ass port them.

[bigjeff100]

I always:


Pay 1p per level, so 60p at 60.

Find and be at rings before I even contact a porter.

Buff them in addition to payment, if possible.

Say "Thanks!" and "Good Luck!"

Defend their tight sexy bodies from attack

Stare.

Stare with intent to rape.


I like this.. Definitely the 1pp per level thing, i dig this..

[d3r14k]

you should be greatful someone let your bitch ass port them.

Grateful*

As in: You should be grateful I corrected you, since your elementary spelling teacher failed you.

[Jauna]

you should be greatful someone let your bitch ass port them.

ahahahhahaha what the fuck i have to keep /anon bound to Q to not have a que of people building up all the time

[ScaringChildren]

ahahahhahaha what the fuck i have to keep /anon bound to Q to not have a que of people building up all the time

It's possible people just want to say "hello" rather than need a port.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Defend their tight sexy bodies from attack

Stare.

Stare with intent to rape.
[/LIST]

Good one! Do you work for Riot Games?

[SamwiseRed]

Grateful*

As in: You should be grateful I corrected you, since your elementary spelling teacher failed you.

If autocorrect doesn't fix it, must not be important

[radda]

If autocorrect doesn't fix it, must not be important

Exactly my thoughts.

[pickled_heretic]

breeze/clarity/c2 is not a fucking tip for a port, its customary.
If you don't negotiate a price before the port you have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

[Foxplay]

If you don't negotiate a price before the port you have ONLY YOURSELF to blame.

DaP doesn't have a set price this is so new players can afford transportation and so people who don't have much coin on them or carrying gems due to weight or just forgot coin can also get ports

That being said 1p per level or 50p is pretty standard and has been for a long time

Lastly having a 60 enchanter myself... The class can fart and plat will fall out, if you cant afford 50p for a port on an enchanter then perhaps EQ live is more your speed

[pickled_heretic]

blah blah a bunch of irrelevant shit

I don't care if Dial a Potty has mandatory community service. If you're providing a service and the tacit agreement is that you will be tipped for providing said service, another part of that tacit agreement is that you're not setting a price and people can give you whatever they want to give you.

If that unresolved ambiguity concerns you, stop offering a service for tips and get a real fucking job, you filthy hippies.

[Jimjam]

If I advertise on my wizard I /auc WTS wizard ports and set a price.

Of course you get some jokers claim they would have tipped way more (glad to have saved you money, sir), but I think it is a more transparent way to operate.

If don't /auc WTS ports, but advertise differently it usually means I am casting for free.

[Hakubi]

Don't get me started.
Playing a druid for pp/h is a fool's errand and some of the worst opportunity costs you can subject yourself to. Anyone 40+ should be farming FS for 500+/hr or better. I only log mine on to drop transfer, group wipe recovery, buff/gear random newbies, or get jboots for an alt. Porting is the most mind numbing grab ass thing you can do for money.

If you're playing NA there will be a billion others competing with you especially considering most are ignorant about the last level druids get their ports (44) and will always hammer the highest level one online. ~30-50pp tips, frequent long gaps of nothing and then juggling a billion people who can't communicate properly.

If you're playing Euro hours...don't. MY god, they don't have a tipping culture and it shows. They think your time is worthless. 5-15pp tips or flat out stiffs almost every one of them.

Okay so you get to deal with:
- Long stretches of no business
- A billion tells at once to break up those stretches of no business
- Crashing on zone
- The guy who sits at the ring for 45 seconds without trading making shit awkward
- Slow people calling you to a ring 5 minutes before they get there as your queue waits
- Making you run to Qeynos arena and wolf form them for 10pp
- CRs (no problem doing these but they hurt returns at the end of the day considering how frequent they are)
- Flakes
- Explaining the tooth system
- Tipping with shit that didn't sell in the tunnel or is lore and common that everyone has banked. No I don't want to sit in EC selling this partial stack of trade skill shit no one buys I'm destroying it
- Asking if they are KOS to Wuoshi, which they are and lied to you about
- Poor communicators who think you can read their mind about the friend they are waiting for
- People who don't want the standard invis/lev/sow before EJ/SF ports and get mad you're wasting their time. YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME I DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE DOING THIS AT ALL.
- Flipping your damn anon tag off to manage queue times
- Etc etc


It's literally being a fucking bus driver. You come into contact with the most bizzare segments of the population, and the bell curve skews very low. Of course there are the rare people who split instead of trade their cash, know where they are going, value your time with a fair tip, and are generally easy to work with but my god. I think everyone should roll a druid to 44 and drive the short bus for a week. No ports unless you've got a druid and have done your time. I don't think there will be many stiffs after that.

I've been the level 10 iksar calling a cab to the EJ ZL with 10pp to my name. I don't have problems with the newbies. But when you're in your fancy ass gear ...you should REALLY be giving someone fair value for their time. I run ride the damn boats on my alts if I don't have the cash on hand I'd never stiff someone. 50pp/1pp per level has been the standard since I started here. I don't blacklist anyone out right but I did run a GINA trigger that lets me know you are a horrible tipper (or good one) and you get shuffled around in the queue. I hold grudges against entire raid guilds who's alts stiff, no excuse not to be holding dots when you've got 1m droppable weapons and full MQ gear.

TL;dr
POK books when?

[ScaringChildren]

If I advertise on my wizard I /auc WTS wizard ports and set a price.

Of course you get some jokers claim they would have tipped way more (glad to have saved you money, sir), but I think it is a more transparent way to operate.

If don't /auc WTS ports, but advertise differently it usually means I am casting for free.

"I totally would have tipped you a Fungi, but whatever..."

[Foxplay]

If I advertise on my wizard I /auc WTS wizard ports and set a price.

Of course you get some jokers claim they would have tipped way more (glad to have saved you money, sir), but I think it is a more transparent way to operate.

If don't /auc WTS ports, but advertise differently it usually means I am casting for free.

I mean I get it...I think the same way when people sell items... You ask how much of X item they say "offer" I just wanna punch them in the face or ill low-ball them out of spite.

Not sure why I feel different about porting...But I also don't port on my druid for plat, and the super rare times i might be be porting its because Im bored and want to watch Netflix while "AFKish playing" EQ

I have set a minimum fee for PoTG thou... 75p minimum or get bent (still free for DaP thou cause I know it helps the younger druids / wizards level)

[d3r14k]

Don't get me started.
Playing a druid for pp/h is a fool's errand and some of the worst opportunity costs you can subject yourself to. Anyone 40+ should be farming FS for 500+/hr or better

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree here. If you aren't making more than 500pp an hour doing ports, you're doing something wrong.

Granted I haven't done a TON of high end camps, but porting is consistent plat that doesn't rely on a drop for a payout. Even then, you've still gotta sell your drops. I agree with you to some degree, once you are a certain level it might not make sense to spend all your time porting people around solely for plat, but believe it or not, some people enjoy it (myself included).

[bigjeff100]

I mean I get it...I think the same way when people sell items... You ask how much of X item they say "offer" I just wanna punch them in the face or ill low-ball them out of spite.

Not sure why I feel different about porting...But I also don't port on my druid for plat, and the super rare times i might be be porting its because Im bored and want to watch Netflix while "AFKish playing" EQ

I have set a minimum fee for PoTG thou... 75p minimum or get bent (still free for DaP thou cause I know it helps the younger druids / wizards level)

Yeah PoTG is a legit charge. That's 1300 mana...

[misterbonkers]

c2, in theory, lets you get more ports done that would make up for what the chanter doesn't pay. it's opportunity costs. but, if nobody needs ports during that window of having c2, it feels bad but that's the gamble you took. as someone in dial a port, i'm usually extremely happy to take a c2 in exchange for a port. if i can't get more ports done with it, i use that excess for leveling in the downtime. just make the most of it. but at least make an offer or plat and let them decide. there's no reason why the class with the best plat generation can't offer the same as other classes.

[Wonkie]

Why people don’t haggle and wheel and deal in EC is beyond me. I routinely say offer and people do not respond. It makes no sense, I’m saying offer because I want to sell this item, make a reasonable offer and we can probably find a middle ground.

it's rarely worth responding to a person who does that crap

[Phenyo]

it's rarely worth responding to a person who does that crap

This, i dont wanna spend my time larping as a haggling merchant i want to buy/sell as fast as possible and spend as little time in EC as i can

[Wonkie]

i just find it unpleasant so ill give you extra fake money to not inflict it on me

[rjw513]

I always play a Druid, I have never played an Enchanter...

I never "charge" for porting people, no matter what zone, and I get tips based on level 90% of the time. Sometimes you get 10pp, sometimes you get 100pp...honestly most times I get 60+ plat, its from a 60 enchanter or shaman haha

I'm stoked if the enchanter says "no coin on me" c2 okay? Heck yes its OK, its friggin' awesome, now I can swing by CS and grab 8-10 verns and probably loot 200pp in gems, duh

If the shaman has no coin, I'm confident he will pay it forward very soon!

Plus look at what enc/sham do in your xp groups, compared to what druids do......

clarity=tip imo

[rjw513]

necros generally tip very well too....I guess those are the three best high end solo farming classes

thanks to all those who do appreciate the ports! pp,buffs,items it all counts!!

[MilanderTruewield]

So...

What if the chanter in question was on a CR, thus had no pp? And then offered the C2/GoB as payment?

[fastboy21]

Trump is president. I tip what I please now.

[Valura]

nobody tips for TL to bind. one time i just waited there and he said "??" (lvl 60 monk)

[beargryllz]

C2 gives 11 mana/tick or 3850 mana over 35 minutes.

Ports cost 300 mana.

C2 allows you to port up to 12 more times than if you didn't have C2 in that 35 minute period.

If anything, the porter should split the next ~10 port tips with the enc that was nice enough to throw C2 on them

[Cecily]

nobody tips for TL to bind. one time i just waited there and he said "??" (lvl 60 monk)

Really? Sorry to here that. I’ve been doing my usual 75p.

[radda]

I TL from Ot and I never ask for tip and always cast as soon as in group. But I know who dosnt tip...

[ScaringChildren]

I usually tip upon landing, so I have made the mistake of not tipping before a TL in the past.

To be fair though, it wasn't to my bind point. I figured it was a traditional port.

[Tethler]

Clarity is a courtesy, just like SoW is when you get your port. If you ask if C is fine as a tip and the porter says cool, then cool. Otherwise, it is generally understood that people are advertising porting services in exchange for platinum pieces.

It isn't about comparing the cost of the port spell with your spell. You are paying for a service that saves you from taking the time of running or waiting for a boat.

[pickled_heretic]

Clarity is a courtesy, just like SoW is when you get your port. If you ask if C is fine as a tip and the porter says cool, then cool. Otherwise, it is generally understood that people are advertising porting services in exchange for platinum pieces.

It isn't about comparing the cost of the port spell with your spell. You are paying for a service that saves you from taking the time of running or waiting for a boat.

What's generally understood is that people advertising porting services without naming a price are doing so for tips. What's also generally understood is that tips are not guaranteed, and it is entirely up to the tipper to determine what, if anything, is paid. If you want to do a thing and make sure you get money for it, you need to communicate that beforehand, or do something where money is guaranteed, e.g. get a real job, you fucking hippie.

[Tethler]

What's generally understood is that people advertising porting services without naming a price are doing so for tips. What's also generally understood is that tips are not guaranteed, and it is entirely up to the tipper to determine what, if anything, is paid. If you want to do a thing and make sure you get money for it, you need to communicate that beforehand, or do something where money is guaranteed, e.g. get a real job, you fucking hippie.

Disagree. Status quo = platinum in exhange for service provided. If you don't have any money (CR port, broke, noob, whatever) the portee should check if it's ok with the porter, not assume a free ride. Though DaP does provide garunteed free CR ports if members have their tag up. I port people for free all the time if they are up front about it.

People get blacklisted from porters for that crap, so sure, you can do it, but you are limiting your future porting options by getting on the ignore list of active porters. People in DaP guild chat communicate it to others when people are asshats or stiff them.

[d3r14k]

People get blacklisted from porters for that crap, so sure, you can do it, but you are limiting your future porting options by getting on the ignore list of active porters. People in DaP guild chat communicate it to others when people are asshats or stiff them.

This ^

I don't have anyone on my ignore list, and there is no DaP blacklist, despite what anyone may tell you. However, above poster is 100% correct that many DaP members use their /ignore feature for shitty people. If you start off at level 1 assuming that your transportation is free and guaranteed and paying is optional, your ass may be riding the boat later on.

This is why threads like this that are full of misinformation are not fantastic for the new player who might not understand what is expected.

[Foxplay]

And don't forget if you break your invis and die I'm not helping you

[aaezil]

Whole lotta whining in here am not sure if anyone in here is over 12 years of age

[derpcake2]

physical giants and mental midgets

a true fantasy environment

[monkmind]

I require 100plat for each C2 and 50plat for each C1

[pickled_heretic]

Blah blah, more irrelevant crap
Literally simple as this. Tips = not mandatory, that's fucking American service economy 101. You're free to blacklist someone because you hate iksars or because they stiff you when you port them or whatever, that's not part of the conversation. If you are engaging in an optional payment system for providing a service, don't be surprised when some people don't pay.

[Mead]

Yeap. Asking for "tips" is setting yourself up for failure if you're expecting a payment. If you're afraid of ridicule asking for a fee, or don't have the social capacity, then find another way to make platinum either solo or by group.

Hope this helps

[Jauna]

I require 100plat for each C2 and 50plat for each C1

Yeah but people trade clarity for sow and no one charges for sow.

ports save you literal days worth of travel when added up over time. fuck its like 30 minutes bare ass minimum IF you catch the boat as it zones in

clarity on the other hand? im sure someone here can do the math but breeze only regenerates only like 500 mana over its 20 or so minute duration and thats an extra spell and a half. someone else take over for clarity/c2s mana regen

but without math getting clarity maybe gets me one extra quad for its duration. while its useful its not nearly as useful as a port.

[ScaringChildren]

You're free to blacklist someone because you hate iksars.

What if two gay iksars wanted you to bake a cake for their wedding?

[Tethler]

You guys are too hung up on the word "tip". Bottom line, a service is being provided and compensation is assumed. Either some of you are just here trolling or you're trying really hard to justify bad behavior. Either way, this thread is going nowhere. I'm out.

[pickled_heretic]

Yeah but people trade clarity for sow

lmao just no

maybe it happens because enchanters are feeling charitable and pity their poor, stupid druid friends sometimes.

but there's no way those two things are even close to equitable

[Wonkie]

What if two gay iksars wanted you to bake a cake for their wedding?

feeeeemale iksars are a protected class. Do not discriminate against them.

[Jauna]

lmao just no

maybe it happens because enchanters are feeling charitable and pity their poor, stupid druid friends sometimes.

but there's no way those two things are even close to equitable

giving someone clarity wont even get you on a waitlist

[pickled_heretic]

giving someone clarity wont even get you on a waitlist

Enchanters don't do "waitlists," they log in and get invited to king in 15 mins

[Pootle]

Man you guys are making me feel bad. I've been tipping 25p any time someone ports me.
Im, a new player only one character, and so far I'm lev36 and have like 600p to my name, while trying to save up for a mid range weapon.

Anyhoo, I appreciate the work porters do... never keep them waiting. Only ask for a port when I am at the pickup ring (or EC/OT-ramp), always friendly..... hopefully I havent made it onto any blacklists....

[bigjeff100]

Tip amount=Your level. Lets just stick with this equation.

[ScaringChildren]

Man you guys are making me feel bad. I've been tipping 25p any time someone ports me.
Im, a new player only one character, and so far I'm lev36 and have like 600p to my name, while trying to save up for a mid range weapon.

Anyhoo, I appreciate the work porters do... never keep them waiting. Only ask for a port when I am at the pickup ring (or EC/OT-ramp), always friendly..... hopefully I havent made it onto any blacklists....

25p is perfectly fine for your level.

When you're level 60, paying 60p for a port is no sweat.

My main is a Rogue, so I'm dirt poor too.

[Pringles]

I've never had a porter complain when tipped with c2 and GoB. So I am just going to chalk this up to the typical disconnect between forums and actually playing the game. Turns out forums rarely reflect what goes on the actual server. Consider me shocked by this realization.



not

[pickled_heretic]

Man you guys are making me feel bad. I've been tipping 25p any time someone ports me.
Im, a new player only one character, and so far I'm lev36 and have like 600p to my name, while trying to save up for a mid range weapon.

Anyhoo, I appreciate the work porters do... never keep them waiting. Only ask for a port when I am at the pickup ring (or EC/OT-ramp), always friendly..... hopefully I havent made it onto any blacklists....

tip whatever you think you can afford and is fair, since that is the literal definition of what a tip is. The whole 1p=1lvl thing is utter and complete bullshit, it's basically a conspiracy started by Portapotty to raise porting profits. You might be destitute and unable to afford even your spells depending on what class you are and where you're grinding, all the way to 60. Especially in groups, where the distribution of the little loot you get is not even fair. You might not even be able to carry that much junk to sell if your str is poor and you can't afford to stop medding or you're evil and your closest vendor zone is gypsies 3 zones away and your closest bank is even farther away.

There's enough churn with new players and shit that even if you make a few enemies it won't affect you that much. And if you want to explain your situation I am sure most people would be understanding.

[skarlorn]

25p is perfectly fine for your level.

When you're level 60, paying 60p for a port is no sweat.

My main is a Rogue, so I'm dirt poor too.

what the fuck? are you retarded? rogues literally can steal money

[ScaringChildren]

what the fuck? are you retarded? rogues literally can steal money

Yeah, like 2 Copper at a time.

The only place worth doing it is in Seb and good luck if you get caught by players or mobs.

[pickled_heretic]

what the fuck? are you retarded? rogues literally can steal money

You will get lynched if you ever do that in a group and they catch you

[radda]

Rogue theft best skill imo

[d3r14k]

There is currently a whiny reddit thread about a rogue stealing ears at HHK gobbos. Highly recommend reading OPs responses there.

[Canelek]

Is reddit lawyerquesting acknowledged as A-OK mental health level?

[Schaduwridder]

how could you get caught?

[pickled_heretic]

how could you get caught?

STOP THIEF

[skarlorn]

Yeah, like 2 Copper at a time.

The only place worth doing it is in Seb and good luck if you get caught by players or mobs.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277707

other good ways to make money pping, giants, goblin ears.

gitgud

[ScaringChildren]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277707

other good ways to make money pping, giants, goblin ears.

gitgud

While in game I'm actually a halfway decent person and would not stoop this low.

I'm happy you sacrificed your reputation on a small population server for mere shekels though.

[Canelek]

While in game I'm actually a halfway decent person and would not stoop this low.

I'm happy you sacrificed your reputation on a small population server for mere shekels though.

Actually, Borgnach was much lauded by the greater forum community.

[ScaringChildren]

Actually, Borgnach was much lauded by the greater forum community.

Well sure, the forum is fucking retarded.

We all know this.

[skarlorn]

gitgud

[Wonkie]

Well sure, the forum is fucking retarded.

We all know this.

Come

Come, and wallow in vulgarity

cum

[ScaringChildren]

Come

Come, and wallow in vulgarity

cum

Especially this guy.

Mega retarded.

[Wonkie]

thank u

[pickled_heretic]

While in game I'm actually a halfway decent person and would not stoop this low.

I'm happy you sacrificed your reputation on a small population server for mere shekels though.

I don't think anyone who was a regular on seafury island is a decent person tho

[ScaringChildren]

I don't think anyone who was a regular on seafury island is a decent person tho

Hill Giants in Rathe Mountains are a shit show too, but that doesn't mean people don't deserve being left alone.

I'm fine if pick pocketing mobs is deemed "classic", but it's a shit move and I won't do it.

Was Skarlorn's post funny and entertaining? Sure, but I be caught dead doing that shit. Maybe on Red, but then again no one plays on Red so it wouldn't bother anyone.

[skarlorn]

^shitty rogue player

[ScaringChildren]

^shitty rogue player

Says the one who uses a two hander.

You RP better than me, I guess.

And yes that makes me envious.

[Canelek]

I think we can all learn a lesson from Borgnach.

(hope your feet heal soon)

[Tuurin]

tip whatever you think you can afford and is fair, since that is the literal definition of what a tip is. The whole 1p=1lvl thing is utter and complete bullshit, it's basically a conspiracy started by Portapotty to raise porting profits. You might be destitute and unable to afford even your spells depending on what class you are and where you're grinding, all the way to 60. Especially in groups, where the distribution of the little loot you get is not even fair. You might not even be able to carry that much junk to sell if your str is poor and you can't afford to stop medding or you're evil and your closest vendor zone is gypsies 3 zones away and your closest bank is even farther away.

There's enough churn with new players and shit that even if you make a few enemies it won't affect you that much. And if you want to explain your situation I am sure most people would be understanding.

So because you’re poor and/or too lazy to bother looting and vendoring, that means others should feel obligated to port you around for peanuts? You do realize that there is literally a free transportation system available to every unwashed urchin on the server, right? Instant travel is a premium service that wouldn’t exist if people weren’t willing to pay for it. Don’t like being paying for it? No problem- pull up the wiki maps and start running slick.

[pickled_heretic]

So because you’re poor and/or too lazy to bother looting and vendoring, that means others should feel obligated to port you around for peanuts? You do realize that there is literally a free transportation system available to every unwashed urchin on the server, right? Instant travel is a premium service that wouldn’t exist if people weren’t willing to pay for it. Don’t like being paying for it? No problem- pull up the wiki maps and start running slick.

Or he can, you know, ask a porter to port him and be ported.
"premium service" my ass. any knuckledragger can level a druid to 30's and port people

[skarlorn]

Instant travel is a premium service that wouldn’t exist if people weren’t willing to pay for it

I'm awestruck by how wrong this statement is

[ScaringChildren]

I think we can all learn a lesson from Borgnach.

(hope your feet heal soon)

Yeah, look out for thieves when farming plat.

[indiscriminate_hater]

druids and wizards are trash and only exist to serve us higher classes

[Jauna]

Or he can, you know, ask a porter to port him and be ported.
"premium service" my ass. any knuckledragger can level a druid to 30's and port people

yeah but thats when people quit, the good money comes in the 40s and the big thick dick rubies are water succors through SG

but then you start seeing less and less familiar faces in the POTG circles as times goes on

[Canelek]

You can complain all you want about cheap people. They deserve it for being cheap. Be as cheap as you want--just don't get all bristly and righteous when folks bitch about you.

That said, welcome to the real world. Have you never worked for a living?

Entire countries are run by cheap, coddled, trust fund assholes.

[Jimjam]

Hill Giants in Rathe Mountains are a shit show too, but that doesn't mean people don't deserve being left alone.

I'm fine if pick pocketing mobs is deemed "classic", but it's a shit move and I won't do it.

Was Skarlorn's post funny and entertaining? Sure, but I be caught dead doing that shit. Maybe on Red, but then again no one plays on Red so it wouldn't bother anyone.

Another day of PVE happening on a PVE server.

[wagorf]

Porting fee 1pp per level, LOL equation my ass.

I usually tip 30pp cuz porters usually just sit somewhere waiting for me to run over, and the avg group port takes 300 mana so that's 10%. It is only considered a premium service when you RUN to my spot and pick me up, which never happens.

Chanters don't go around asking people for donations when buffing so wtf are u complaining abt. if so then the "chanter equation" should be 30pp for vog and 45pp for gob.

yea remember to pay at least 80pp for c2+gob+cog or else all chanters should blacklist you

[Jauna]

yea remember to pay at least 80pp for c2+gob+cog or else all chanters should blacklist you

thats not a thing
never was a thing
never will be a thing
you know this to be true

[gredoo]

More druids should get creative and hang out in zones like seb asking for big money for ports and let it get split among multiple people. Most of us leaving with coin so we can afford it - we are just lazy.

Hanging at ramp in OT is just zero effort. you bind at ramp, pop to multiple people waiting port them and gate back and repeat. Even if you get screwed donation once in a while you're making money with zero danger, and tons of flexibility to AFK for rl when you want.

[skarlorn]

druids and wizards are trash and only exist to serve us higher classes

Hero

[pickled_heretic]

thats not a thing
never was a thing
never will be a thing
you know this to be true

it was an ironic statement showing the absurdity of druid porting greed, you god damned illiterate

[Jauna]

get fucking psychic bro i dont give a fuck is sarcasm and irony require a tone of voice

just pay your fucking porter bro

[pickled_heretic]

Irony most definitely does not require a tone of voice. Again, you are a god damned illiterate.

[Phenyo]

just pay your fucking porter bro

no, now press that port button slave ive got something important to attend while you quad otters and fluff your passengers

[Foxplay]

no, now press that port button slave ive got something important to attend while you quad otters and fluff your passengers

fluffing is extra

[ScaringChildren]

Port Boy! Oh Port Boy, be a darling and fetch me my slippers. I have party to attend in Kunark.

Chop chop! Make haste, Port Boy!

[Cecily]

Irony most definitely does not require a tone of voice. Again, you are a god damned illiterate.

I liked your extremely subtle sarcasm and Jauna’s inability to detect it, too.

[snyder43]

More druids should get creative...

Hanging at ramp in OT is just zero effort. you bind at ramp, pop to multiple people waiting port them and gate back and repeat.

I don't understand why more porters don't hang out at Hammer Hill instead of the SF Ramp. It would save time for those of us hammering in, especially classes that can't invis, since the cliff golems and dragoons will agro you if you're KoS (and most of us are). This costs the porter almost nothing since most people seeking ports from OT just hammered in.

[robbybenson24]

Yesterday a 60 enchanter put 12pp in my trade window by accident. This was obviously meant for the druid standing next to me at SF ramp. 12pp!!!

[ScaringChildren]

Yesterday a 60 enchanter put 12pp in my trade window by accident. This was obviously meant for the druid standing next to me at SF ramp. 12pp!!!

Jesus...now that's definitely fucked up.