I was told certain classes suck and should be deleted from this game.

[clevergirl]

Does anyone have any DPS numbers /logs to back this up?

Like what is your highest DPS.

PLZ Post it in this thread.

Mine is theoretically 7DPS sustained and probably way more burst at lvl 12 which I can't afford the sustained dps.

Damage /per second, not ratio.

BTW IMO burst DPS is the only DPS that matters anyway because if a fight lasts longer than 30 seconds you are already dead.

[Cecily]

I had a trak fight once where I did a solid 33% of the damage solo. Total damage is the bigger deal and everyone's is less than mine.

[ScaringChildren]

My Rogue needs to train under sensei Cecily.

Unfortunately he's a one-eyed dwarf so he would probably fail miserably.

[clevergirl]

My Rogue needs to train under sensei Cecily.

Unfortunately he's a one-eyed dwarf so he would probably fail miserably.

How did he wind up one eyed?

[ScaringChildren]

How did he wind up one eyed?

Leveling up Backstab isn't always pretty

[Cecily]

I usually have my urchins bank all their practice points until 10 and then cap backstab as soon as you get it. Makes keeping it trained to max much easier.

[clevergirl]

It use to be Wizards were the "Exp" group. Is this because everyone sucked and rogues didn't know how to get exp at raids back in the day?

[Wonkie]

sucking is good for your health. the male fluid has restorative properties.

-chinese proverb

[Nexii]

Kunark fights were shorter and thus wizards would typically do the most dps
In Velious the fights are a lot longer than 30s and so rogues are top dps
Every class has their use(s) though, wouldn't say that any should be deleted from the game

[skarlorn]

I guarantee my cum will make u an elf

[Foxplay]

Beastlord was deleted from p99, discuss

[aaezil]

Remember there is no crappy classes just crappy players

[shuklak]

Beastlord was deleted from p99, discuss

"Green" 99.

[Jimjam]

Kunark fights were shorter and thus wizards would typically do the most dps
In Velious the fights are a lot longer than 30s and so rogues are top dps
Every class has their use(s) though, wouldn't say that any should be deleted from the game

If I could delete one class it would be monks.

What a about you guys?

[Foxplay]

If I could delete one class it would be monks.

What a about you guys?

Cleric

Making a large majority of velious raids nearly impossible

[Tethler]

Cleric

Making a large majority of velious raids nearly impossible

You'd have to hire DaP to bring 20 druids to spam chloroblast.

[Cecily]

Kunark fights were shorter and thus wizards would typically do the most dps
In Velious the fights are a lot longer than 30s and so rogues are top dps
Every class has their use(s) though, wouldn't say that any should be deleted from the game

You think you can just be wrong on the internet like that? Kunark fights averaged out around 60 seconds max, particularly VP. Rogues were generally #1 on quick fights as well.

[d3r14k]

Kekily is coming in hard with the numbers to back her love of the sneakiest class in Norrath.

Will Nexii have a retort to save the Wizard ego?

Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion of ...

https://i.imgur.com/RYLvIIG.jpg

[Nexii]

Lure of Ice is 180 DPS. Rogues do around 100 DPS, maybe 150 if really short fight and burning disc.

[Cecily]

Yeah but wizards are terrible at the game and even if they weren't, no one would know because they don't/can't prove it. List of fights you'll say it's good we have a bunch of wizards here:

Gorenaire.

[azeth]

The only era where rogues weren't distantly king/top dog/hot shit is classic era, specifically PoSky. Most of that problem was due to shit hit boxes.

Gorenaire is another specifically where rogues won't do as much as you'd like.

[trite]

Shadow Knight...

Every class can do something at raids but I don't think shadow knights have a special ability that adds utility or makes them better at any given task than another class. Every other class has something which they are best at or that the raid misses when it isn't present.... but no one has ever said "Damn, we don't have any SK here"

Ranger: best speed bump + CoTP
Warrior: Tank
Mage: CoTH + summoned items
Wizard: TL + best DPS in some scenarios
Rogue: Best general DPS (one day if every monk has abashi + triple attack + 2h damage bonus maybe these guys will be obsolete =P )
Enchanter: TASH/C2/VOG/GOB/GRM + Best DPS in some scenarios
Necro: DMF + Pet Pull + twitch
Druid: Mobility + PoTG + Best DPS in some scenarios
Cleric: Heal Chain + Buffs
Shaman: Malo + Buffs + Slow + torpor
Bard: Mana regen + kiting + DS + resists
Monk: FD + Voidance (maybe future best general DPS at very end game)
Paladin: Divine Strength

SK can do some stuff on raid with their pet and ability to FD but they aren't better than necros / monks / paladins at any of the stuff they might try and do on raids...

[trite]

I answered above that shadow knights don't bring anything to the end game but if your plan is to play to 60 and then quit, SK is a great tank while grinding to 60

[Cecily]

[Sun Mar 09 23:00:44 2014] You say to your guild, 'Xygoz in 24s, 34k @1399dps :: Cecily 4k @205dps (11.01%) :: Roublard 3k @176dps (9.93%) :: Fundo 2k @136dps (7.27%) :: Gunnter 2k @143dps (6.81%) :: Nixxar 2k @100dps (6.27%) :: Remnence 2k @126dps (5.99%) :: Argeye 2k @110dps (5.55%) :: Emsee 2k @99dps (5.32%) :: Pounded 1k @93dps (4.44%) :: Detoxx 1k @54dps (3.38%)'

[Sat Apr 05 04:54:52 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 77s, 35k @452dps :: Cecily 6k @82dps (17.47%) :: Solkunar 4k @48dps (10.25%) :: Gunnter 3k @44dps (9.39%) :: Detoxx 3k @42dps (9.24%) :: Kingore 3k @36dps (7.73%) :: Lazie 2k @33dps (7.03%) :: Kautin 2k @26dps (5.52%) :: Nixxar 2k @65dps (5.44%) :: Barlow 2k @24dps (5.2%) :: Remnence 1k @62dps (3.94%)'

[Sat Apr 12 09:00:24 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 42s, 31k @744dps :: Cecily 5k @121dps (14.76%) :: Fundo 4k @100dps (12.53%) :: Skew 3k @77dps (9.15%) :: Hujiko 3k @73dps (9.11%) :: Nixxar 2k @61dps (7.4%) :: Emsee 2k @54dps (6.22%) :: Knockers 2k @44dps (5.64%) :: Lazie 2k @40dps (5.15%) :: Rotokan 2k @43dps (5.09%) :: Barlow 1k @38dps (4.44%)'

[Sun May 25 03:34:41 2014] You say to your guild, 'Hoshkar in 112s, 41k @369dps :: Cecily 10k @93dps (24.32%) :: Fundo 5k @48dps (11.55%) :: Hujiko 3k @50dps (8.34%) :: Gunnter 3k @31dps (6.9%) :: Dinacarl 2k @63dps (5.93%) :: Fetal 2k @28dps (5.17%) :: Alde 2k @33dps (4.1%) :: Dumper 2k @22dps (3.86%) :: Howtzer 1k @19dps (3.56%) :: Barlow 1k @31dps (3.52%)'

[Sat Apr 19 00:31:24 2014] You say to your guild, 'Phara Dar in 28s, 33k @1163dps :: Cecily 4k @156dps (11.47%) :: Emsee 3k @110dps (9.13%) :: Babysinblack 3k @110dps (8.78%) :: Gabobrik 3k @112dps (8.26%) :: Ramblin 3k @114dps (7.71%) :: Sckrilla 2k @87dps (6.72%) :: Roublard 2k @86dps (6.32%) :: Fundo 2k @75dps (6.24%) :: Skew 2k @79dps (5.37%) :: Picks 1k @57dps (4.39%)'

[Wed Jun 04 01:49:02 2014] Fundo tells the guild, '/g Trakanon in 21s, 22k @1026dps --- Cecily 3k @250dps (16.22%) --- Fundo 3k @181dps (14.26%) --- Barlow 2k @138dps (11.52%) --- Fuvio 2k @148dps (11.02%) --- Cyrano 2k @120dps (10.04%) --- Detoxx 2k @114dps (8.96%) --- Niceboots 2k @96dps (8.92%) --- Greefa 1k @138dps (6.38%) --- Glynna 1k @58dps (4.58%) --- Sebilite juggernaut 1k @97dps (2.7%)'

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[Sun Jun 15 15:44:59 2014] You told raden, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'

[Sun Jun 15 15:45:59 2014] You say out of character, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'

[Sun Jun 15 15:46:07 2014] Heallun says out of character, '258 dps my balls'

[Sun Jun 15 15:52:09 2014] You say to your guild, '/gui Hoshkar in 26s, 28k @1065dps :: Cecily 5k @258dps (19.59%) :: Fundo 4k @168dps (12.74%) :: Skew 3k @117dps (9.32%) :: Kautin 2k @67dps (5.58%) :: Aalpha 1k @64dps (5.35%) :: Kingore 1k @62dps (5.35%) :: Remnence 1k @66dps (5.21%) :: Sckrilla 1k @55dps (4.19%) :: Hujiko 1k @49dps (3.93%) :: Flippie 1k @102dps (3.7%)'

[shuklak]

When are dru best dps?

[Cecily]

Druids are pretty good on Hoshkar, but hardly anyone keys one for VP. I used to top parses on old Dracoliche with my rogue and druid because everyone else was bad at the hit box.

[azeth]

Now post the pathetic Dracoliche fights Cecily

[clevergirl]

I'm gonna say the DPS program log parser I installed was a bit waffly and had settings to tweak it, would like to see an impartial dataset :D

[ScaringChildren]

don't rangers do the best DPS now?

thought that was a thing

[Ella`Ella]

Lure of Ice is 180 DPS. Rogues do around 100 DPS, maybe 150 if really short fight and burning disc.

There are maybe 2 wizards on this server that are able to push respectable DPS without pulling aggro.

I play both of them.

[kjs86z]

When are dru best dps?

Perhaps when charming the wolves for Kael bosses?

Only thing I could think of.

[ScaringChildren]

It's a shame Wizards aren't respected.

I want to play mine so bad.

His name is even Drone Strikes (for maximum immersion)

[Littul Jonn]

It's a shame Wizards aren't respected.

I want to play mine so bad.

His name is even Drone Strikes (for maximum immersion)

That's an awesome name lol. Also, weren't Wizards good in original and kunark? I thought velious just shat on them?

[clevergirl]

It's a shame Wizards aren't respected.

I want to play mine so bad.

His name is even Drone Strikes (for maximum immersion)

Lol.

I don't know why people don't just play what they want. It's a game. I just wish there were more options for hairstyles/dresses/shields, so my wizardess can get pimped out.

BTW all you boys trying to get me to be an ELF. I rolled a human wizard :D and she's already got two http://wiki.project1999.com/Imbued_Platinum_Fire_Ring 's.

My slutty needy behavior is being curbed by my EQ habits. Sorry :(

[clevergirl]

Wizards also got real good in luclin and pop again. TaKP would be the best place to play a wizard if the server didn't disco people on shifty 3rd world internet (thank's 'murica).

[ScaringChildren]

I don't know why people don't just play what they want. It's a game.

Can't play the game when you're an unwanted pariah and being in a group is my favorite part of the game (awww)

[clevergirl]

Hmmm I never noticed being a pariah that bad in this game.

[Cecily]

I'm gonna say the DPS program log parser I installed was a bit waffly and had settings to tweak it, would like to see an impartial dataset :D

Oh fuck you. :P

[trite]

When are dru best dps?

Avatar of War they can be

[Cecily]

Now post the pathetic Dracoliche fights Cecily

I'm missing my flash drive with my oldest logs on it. I apparently avoided PoF like the plague on Cecily, for good reasons I'm sure you could agree. Finding lost Fear corpses is kinda fun, but no one ever gave you a loc and it was stressful as hell.

The best I could find was me bragging about Wyntir (my druid) doing 7k to a draco once.

[Ravager]

The best part of fear corpse recovery is the "soandso has consented you" spam. Then a bunch of tells "I died kinda by the hill" or something equally as vague.