Vulak Train on PS while doing Fesh

[Jokesteve]

A new evil has revealed its face.

Word on the street is someone trained Vulak onto PS before they could finish killing Fesh at the ZI in tov today.

Supposedly the train wiped everyone and their mom out, inquiring minds want to know who's responsible for the train and fraps are being reviewed.

Who are these mysterious enemies? Was the pull longer than a single DA? Will the offenders get a raid ban? Was the server's hero Sirken watching with Eyes and Ears at every corner to swiftly deliver justice? The answers to these questions will be revealed next time on Dragon Ball Z.

[Pringles]

lol

[Siggard]

*grin*

[LulzSect©]

this wouldn't have happened on Rise of Zek

[aaezil]

Root the dragons dear god

[Dreenk317]

Feshlak at zone in? That sounds like more than one DA. Paradigm deserves a vacation.

Pretty sure PS got trained, not did the training. At least, based upon how OP was worded. Reading comprehension for the win.

[feniin]

He's saying it took longer to make the pull to zoneline than one DA idol would last, which is a violation of the raid rules that's never enforced.

[Jauna]

this wouldn't have happened on Rise of Zek

with 50 players i doubt anything happens on RoZ

[shuklak]

Classic.

Approved.

[LulzSect©]

with 50 players i doubt anything happens on RoZ

Sorry to burst your drunken stupor bubble but RoZ has been embraced by the entire Red community. Tonight, even Tune finally caved in and announced he's bringing the remaining Red players to Rise of Zek.

**We've been hitting it 150 - 200 pop for months now!

(still, i'll pray 4 uR drunkeN SoUL)

[Clearmind]

Tempest had last FTE on vulak before the train came in and wipe PS/fesh

AM gave tempest a free vulak anyways.. Tempest kills vulak and gets amazing loot.

PS pulls Fesh again and kills him.

Who knows.. Who's got that good fraps?

[Tortok]

Well if PS wasn‘t done with their dragon before Tempest finished their pull, they must have obviously stalled it.
I would offer 500k to be safe...

[Senix]

can't stall a fight with 25 on fesh, ps just doesn't have the 150+ rosters tempest/aftermath does or aka 50-80 people actively on to kill a feshlak.

[Llodd]

Yeah precedence is set. CU in 50 days whichever one of you plebs did it

[Mytral]

Remember when Awakened trained CSG with a dragon, conceded the dragon, and still got suspended?

I remember. Conceeding really doesn't do anything if the other guild got wiped due to another guilds fuck up while guild 3 (aftermath) runs in the for the kill.

[Lore and Magic]

Need to have a house meeting ya'll.

[NextToTheGods]

I remember. Conceeding really doesn't do anything if the other guild got wiped due to another guilds fuck up while guild 3 (aftermath) runs in the for the kill.

Funny how a concede is not enough when an opposing party does it, when a concede was a perfectly fine plan of action at times when CSG fucked up at many of the targets they contested vs more than one opposing raid entity.

[Clearmind]

Europa kiting Sev for 20 minutes was also a mess. Good thing multiple guilds has fraps of that...

[raato]

Europa kiting Sev for 20 minutes was also a mess. Good thing multiple guilds has fraps of that...

Is it Europa kiting Sev if AM/Tempest got agro and are kiting it during Europas FTE?

[Tarskin]

Europa kiting Sev for 20 minutes was also a mess. Good thing multiple guilds has fraps of that...

Funny how that is even possible, while looking at the time difference between spawn and death *shrug*.

[Littul Jonn]

Its kind of amazing Sev lived for 20 min. Its 4min from spawn location to zoneline kill. That's one hell of a kite

[Screapy]

Littul you're jumping on that train?! I'm slightly disappointed... not gonna mention Trakanon here I guess :>

[ScaringChildren]

I don't know what's going on but I feel as if an annoying, passive aggressive gif will add to the conversation.

https://imgur.com/0TPzS2k.gif

[Littul Jonn]

Lol im just saying, it takes 4min from spawn location to zone in. If AM kited and had agro and it still took 20 min to get to camp thats a hell of a tour Sev took. Im sure 20min was an exaggeration though but if not... yikes.

What about Trak?

[pogs4ever]

they should just make all the outdoor dragons the same as gaurdian kozz and have em spawn random along their pathing.

[Legday]

they should just make all the outdoor dragons the same as gaurdian kozz and have em spawn random along their pathing.

Now entering the "proposed mechanic changes to fix this shit" phase of the thread.

LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...

[Phenyo]

Is it Europa kiting Sev if AM/Tempest got agro and are kiting it during Europas FTE?

''guys we blatantly kited sev in circles i think we fucked up''
''nah just blame tempest and aftermath LOL''

[Csihar]

Europa kiting Sev for 20 minutes was also a mess. Good thing multiple guilds has fraps of that...

Post! Post! Post!

[Levlenna]

Europa has FTE, other guilds (Not naming any nameds) are *watching* the pull and agro Sev. Of course they do not get FTE message because the Europa FTE is solid, but they DO drag Sev from it's path, making it a longer pull. and no, it was def not 20 minutes. but who cares, this is RnF after all.

[aaezil]

Just ban cothing for fte - sev fixed

You're welcome i'm a genius i know *bows*

[Kesselring4]

Give all dragons a deathtouch

solves kiting problems ( and makes kunark stuff more fun )

but some of them already have bullshit aoe's.

[Wonkie]

but some of them already have bullshit aoe's.

I'd rather be deathtouched than deal with that spin stun dargon

[Detoxx]

''guys we blatantly kited sev in circles i think we fucked up''
''nah just blame tempest and aftermath LOL''



Pretty much their mantra since day 1.

[Jan Jensen]

Europa has FTE, other guilds (Not naming any nameds) are *watching* the pull and agro Sev. Of course they do not get FTE message because the Europa FTE is solid, but they DO drag Sev from it's path, making it a longer pull. and no, it was def not 20 minutes. but who cares, this is RnF after all.

Yes, it was closer to 12-15.

This is a timestamp of my port into EJ - a late port, mind you - and the moment he was finally hailed in the distance near the TT zoneline.

[Sat Aug 18 16:34:30 2018] You have entered The Emerald Jungle.
[Sat Aug 18 16:44:10 2018] Bards says, 'Hail, Severilous'

If you have fraps of someone messing with the pull, then go ahead and petition, but with that long a kite, my money is on your puller either stalling or never having skilled up sense heading.

[LeksiBomb]

Welcome to ToV. You really need every single person running fraps during the pull & fight & then with your evidence take it up with the guild responsible & come to terms. Not run to your daddy Sirken hoping he saw it all & will make them concede mobs for the next year & a half because someone made a booboo & you wiped WAAHHH. That's why you're called casual scum guilds. Btw, I recall PS being rezzed & getting Fesh next attempt

[shuklak]

I like how the first thing to do when p99 raiding is to load up your tattletale programs.

[LeksiBomb]

It's not a tattletale program at all. If guild A is going to make such claims & accusations against guild B which come with heavy ramifications, shouldn't they have evidence it even happened? How do we know they didn't train themselves? If guild bans just went around at peoples word there would be madness, right?

[shuklak]

Is the current raids scene more madness or healthy gaming?

[LeksiBomb]

I would say the current raiding scene is ridiculous, but not madness. It works, mostly. FTP (first to petition) would be regression, moving backwards in a sense to where everyone wants raiding to go. If someone can't prove it happened how they say, they have no business petitioning for ramifications. That's true even outside of EQ

[Baylan295]

I would say the current raiding scene is ridiculous, but not madness. It works, mostly. FTP (first to petition) would be regression, moving backwards in a sense to where everyone wants raiding to go. If someone can't prove it happened how they say, they have no business petitioning for ramifications. That's true even outside of EQ

What’s your proposed standard of proof. Who judges?

Just curious.

[Nexii]

Root the dragons, saves 99% of the training related petitions

[Schaduwridder]

dragons should be perma rooted

[Senescant]

Go back to classic 1 hour fte locks.

[Erati]

Go back to classic 1 hour fte locks.

Velious Class System R/C/FFA so BDA returns to collect their dues !

[Lammy]

Go back to classic 1 hour fte locks.

Certainly a healthier raiding / guild environment during this era

[Just facts]

AM and Temp both have a handful of great players and are simultaneously both chock-full of warm-body morons being carried.

Conflicts between the two guilds are resolved via backroom deals with staff participation now, so I'm not sure how you can think one side is cheesing the system more than the other.

Its not really the point you're trying to make, but if you want to make a case for which guild is better... AM has better leadership, better players at the top (but this is close), and a generally higher caliber of non-factors and assorted retards due to the taint of Taken and Venerate retards on the Tempest side.

Plenty of ExTaken members in AM to ;)

[Foxplay]

b-b-b-b-b-but my easy pixels

It would be interesting to see how many ppl would quit raiding once they cant simply log into the zone in of ToV / Kael and other zones and collect dkp / loot

[evilkorn]

Plenty of ExTaken members in AM to ;)

Yeah all like 5 tops that were in Taken at one point including myself. But there are really only 2 exTaken that went from Taken to Forsaken now part of Aftermath, Jonwayne (me) and Fifield. He's a pro puller and I'm just a dps rogue with a Smaug load of DKP that's too cheap to lock in a bid for loot when I'm on for something that drops that I want, 20% RA problems and repops while I'm working. But we all help out when we can.

Not really an apt choice for a name Just facts.

[jakerees]

Yeah all like 5 tops that were in Taken at one point including myself. But there are really only 2 exTaken that went from Taken to Forsaken now part of Aftermath, Jonwayne (me) and Fifield. He's a pro puller and I'm just a dps rogue with a Smaug load of DKP that's too cheap to lock in a bid for loot when I'm on for something that drops that I want, 20% RA problems and repops while I'm working. But we all help out when we can.

Not really an apt choice for a name Just facts.

Your name sickens me and ruins my immersion.

[NegaStoat]

Plenty of ExTaken members in AM to ;)

Probably veterans of the legendary AssForTaken effort. God bless those guys.

[evilkorn]

Your name sickens me and ruins my immersion.

https://i.imgur.com/0qfCTDU.jpg

[Just facts]

Yeah all like 5 tops that were in Taken at one point including myself. But there are really only 2 exTaken that went from Taken to Forsaken now part of Aftermath, Jonwayne (me) and Fifield. He's a pro puller and I'm just a dps rogue with a Smaug load of DKP that's too cheap to lock in a bid for loot when I'm on for something that drops that I want, 20% RA problems and repops while I'm working. But we all help out when we can.

Not really an apt choice for a name Just facts.

is it really that few active ?

Your brother isn't active anymore then I guess?
I remember seeing Dagnabitt's bard alt with a AM tag a month ago , isn't Nikkanu AM anymore?
Hard to keep track with the name changes (alot of Taken members had funny names on their chars) but I do remember seeing them with the AM tag.

[evilkorn]

Nikkanu's here now and nothing from Dagg in months but he did raid a little. You knew it was only Fif and I that left around that time before Taken merged with Rampage. I'm not sure why you though AM had some huge group of Taken members.

[jakerees]

https://i.imgur.com/0qfCTDU.jpg

nice try I can tell that's a grenade though so I'm not going to pull the pin and blow myself up that would be stupid and I sure am not stupid and I can assure you that all the time that I have spent in East Commons asking for people to sell me a child's tear for 5 to 10K is well spent and I don't need to pull pin out of a live grenade and blow myself up so there's no need to get all rustled over your love for Jackie Chan's character in the Shanghai Noon and nights movies John Wayne I mean it's a stupid name for a fantasy elf simulator I know it you know it everyone here knows it so why don't you take your Jackie Chan loving ass and go sit in the arena and just wait for me okay pumpkin

[evilkorn]

https://i.imgur.com/76nC9YX.gif


Report me if you don't think it's elf simy enough for you, they took my sir name but they will never take my freedom.

[Runyan]

Well

Apparently we trained ourselves.

Guess we won’t do that again

[Firenze]

Serves us right!

[Zutizutzut]

Well

Apparently we trained ourselves.

Guess we won’t do that again

Petition denied?

[Senescant]

What happened to the suspensions for crying wolf! That's like at least the 3rd time PS has blamed others for trains when instead they've either trained themselves or not gotten out of the way.

[shuklak]

Core is dog food.

Food turns to shit.

Shit turns to stardust.

[imsorryGMs]

Core is dog food.

Food turns to shit.

Shit turns to stardust.

That's not how it works on the 3rd step.

[24kanthony]

^^^
Implying their judgment is equal to that of an admin and a double post.
Delusional + mad

[Ghostly]

Looks like another person nuked for crying favoritism.

[24kanthony]

Ok, just mad haha

[kjs86z]

Rip pour one out for jado

What happened to Jado?

He's my favorite tank!

[24kanthony]

Notice his posts are gone

And all his characters....

[Pyrrhica]

Rip Jado. That makes me truly sad. :(

[Nexii]

Loot council finally got to him

At least he got green scales

[Firenze]

What happened to Jado?

He's my favorite tank!

He was permanently banned from a comment he made on this thread.

[Sonderbeast]

At least he got green scales

triggered.gif

[Erati]

Requesting Tenderizer video for Jado and other banned refugees using this song/video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

thanks

[Ghostly]

Easiest way to kill a topic now a days. Everyone's scared to talk afterwards lol.

[Sonderbeast]

Pussies

...

Meow

[Runyan]

Honestly it’s just odd that we got Feshlak to zone in solo, and we were engaged for almost 2 minutes and then Vulak aggroes one of our members and we are responsible for the train in totality.

I really get the need to rule on a case by case basis but I think we were all surprised to be found at fault.

[Runyan]

I am thankful we didn’t get suspended for crying wolf though. We joked about that from the onset, but am truly thankful.