Skip Luclin & Add Planes of Power

[Baler]

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No beastlords
No AA
No Cats
etc

Skip luclin and add Planes of power scaled down to classic levels and stats.
Atleast PoP got music!

j/k

[Mblake1981]

Atleast PoP got music!

j/k

heh.

I even disagree with player scrubs being able to kill Cazic/Innoruuk with their sissy swords and spells. Not much of a god letting peons strike you down.

[bigjeff100]

Let me play as a Sarnak. Add EQ 2 content, then add Vanguard content, and then definitely patch in some Pantheon content.

[skarlorn]

Add powerful wizards who can cast magic spells

[Bboboo]

PoP is worse than Luclin

Fuck yer books.

[Sadiki]

PoK books are great. People complain it made the world feel smaller - and most of them are just druids whining they can't port for cash anymore - but the world had a hell of a lot more content at the time. You could do more quests, group in better areas, and spend less time accomplishing absolutely nothing. You still had the choice to explore.

PoP without beastlords sounds amazing. I freakin hate beastlords.

[radda]

no
all or nothing

[bigjeff100]

PoK books are incredible and help facilitate grouping in obscure locations. I’m far more likely to run to a Runnyeye group at level 10 from Crushbone when I can just click the Kelethin book and click the Rivervale book and be there in 5 minutes.

You don’t have to waste a Druids time for this sort of travel and you are able to adventure in many different dungeons you likely wouldn’t have on your leveling path due to how time consuming travel can be when you run.

The problem was, little things like this are what took away that feeling of EQ. You took away the need to depend on others, things that made classes unique... It's making things easier that ended up putting EQ on the path to everybody soloing.. The game started losing what made it special. Interaction with people.

[Swish2]

Just add LDoN, it was all in old Norrath.

LDoN - the people's expansion

[Foxplay]

Legacy of yakesha the expansion nobody asked for, cared for, or gave a shit about all in one...

[radda]

+1, cept it added the augment system, so that would probably have to be scrapped.

except that augment that added pet skeletons, that was cool

[shuklak]

Just go straight to GoD and see what you can do.

[Tethler]

Skip Luclin and add only shared banks. Thx.

[Swish2]

What about skipping to House of Thule and working backwards?

[Jimjam]

LDoN and LoY are classic!

[Jimjam]

(minus mounts and augments)

[Troxx]

Weapon augments were cool

[Sinistria]

No!
PoK Books is the same like Luclin Bazar.

Great ideas to make the game more comfortable but:

It destroyed a lot of the interaction with people and that is a major point in EQ gameplay.

I enjoyed those features as well but they did bad things to classic EQ.

LDoN and LoY were great
Not talking about rules and features, just the designs were great and were lots of fun to explore.

I remember one that was something like a huuuge ship, or sunken ship with pirates/undead pirates (LoY).
Can't remember the name of the zone but it was very much fun to explore

[shuklak]

Sounds like you would enjoy agnarr.

[Pint]

Ldon is so dull, clearly been too long since most of y'all played it

[shuklak]

Ldon is so dull, clearly been too long since most of y'all played it

Thats what some said about the ec tunnel too.

Crazy thing is... in a niche game like eq you only need a few hundred or maybe a thousand other misfits and things just work out.

[derpcake2]

benefit of ldon was AE kiting 140 mobs / pull during EU primetime

it couldn't be done anywhere near US prime hours, because the load on the server hosting the zone would cause 15 second rubberbanding on npcs

it got nerfed soon after

[derpcake2]

in Nadox of course :)

[radda]

Ldon is so dull, clearly been too long since most of y'all played it

[Jimjam]

LDON encouraged active play style and punished being overly cautious. Crawling the way the game is meant to be played!

[Jimjam]

You could swarm Dulak's Harbour on bard too!

Also lots of fun soling on shaman with stoicism and soulstripper from mid 40s onward.

[Gilder]

Looking back, LDoN was probably more harmful than Luclin.

Instances and all.

[Mblake1981]

100% agree. Ldon traded the concept of going down in to a dungeon for interconnected hallways. Ldon also ended quests and loot drops to be replaced with merchant rewards.
Ldon's release marks the end of true classic Everquest.

At the time we thought it was great but looking back I really dislike it. EQ was already dead at this point. Prefer the D&D style dungeons of classic like Guk, Perma, Befallen, Sol(s). Traps, false walls/floors and the overall style to them. LDoN was boring but it fed the reward mechanism people have which is in game design now. Instances do not belong in EQ, ever.

[sereal]

Don't understand all the hate on cats.

Cats were a good addition. Quit hating.

[Tethler]

100% agree. Ldon traded the concept of going down in to a dungeon for interconnected hallways. Ldon also ended quests and loot drops to be replaced with merchant rewards.
Ldon's release marks the end of true classic Everquest.

Agree. It really took the sense of accomplishment out of getting drops. If felt nice at the time to gear up characters quickly, but also devalued an essential part of what made EQ...EQ.

[Swish2]

I thought it was a good way to grind AAs while doing something fun. Timed challenges for completion etc. The rewards weren't up to much from what I remember but I enjoyed my time in there.

They could have done it better of course. Randomly generated crawls akin to Diablo would have kept things relatively fresh, through the lens of P99 I now think maybe some legacy items to grind out would have been fun.

[Frighteous]

No!
PoK Books is the same like Luclin Bazar.

Great ideas to make the game more comfortable but:

It destroyed a lot of the interaction with people and that is a major point in EQ gameplay.

I enjoyed those features as well but they did bad things to classic EQ.

LDoN and LoY were great
Not talking about rules and features, just the designs were great and were lots of fun to explore.

I remember one that was something like a huuuge ship, or sunken ship with pirates/undead pirates (LoY).
Can't remember the name of the zone but it was very much fun to explore

I much prefer Luclin to the other expansions. Selling wares in EC is not fun, the bazaar made it where anyone can sell. You'd wake up with Plat..

[Mblake1981]

I much prefer Luclin to the other expansions. Selling wares in EC is not fun, the bazaar made it where anyone can sell. You'd wake up with Plat..

Next step mercs

Trying to LFG is not fun, the mercs made it where anyone can group and get xp. You didn't have to wait or talk.

"I am a working adult, my time is limited and valuable. Devs please listen and respond to this request. Put mercs in so I can catch up with guildmate/friends levels, please!, I want to raid and do content but these levels are killing me. You already put the bazaar in and you see what a success it has been despite years and years of people here saying its trash, I leave my sale bot on while I am sleeping or at work and the community benefits from my wares if they have coin."

https://i.imgur.com/MRen7wd.jpg?1

[Mblake1981]

Next step instances

Trying to find a camp is not fun, the instances made it where anyone can find a camp and loot. You didn't have to wait.

"I am a working adult, my time is limited and valuable. Devs please listen and respond to this request. Put instances in so my guildmate/friends/mercs can get a camp , please!, I want to xp and do camps but they are all taken and it's killing me. You already put the bazaar and merc in and you see what a success they have been despite years and years of people here saying they are trash, I leave my sale bot on to make elf coins but now I need better access to camps"

Also college should be free of cost, thx

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/WrHL7U2.jpg?1

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/WrHL7U2.jpg?1

Lol

Luclin still wasn’t as bad as LDoN though. Instances delenda est

[wagorf]

u get ldon and a lot of ppl will only look for ideal classes or levels to group with

that's not classic

[radda]

https://i.imgur.com/WrHL7U2.jpg?1

No, looks like me going to raid with every thing I think il need

[Frighteous]

Next step mercs

Trying to LFG is not fun, the mercs made it where anyone can group and get xp. You didn't have to wait or talk.

"I am a working adult, my time is limited and valuable. Devs please listen and respond to this request. Put mercs in so I can catch up with guildmate/friends levels, please!, I want to raid and do content but these levels are killing me. You already put the bazaar in and you see what a success it has been despite years and years of people here saying its trash, I leave my sale bot on while I am sleeping or at work and the community benefits from my wares if they have coin."

https://i.imgur.com/MRen7wd.jpg?1

I always thought the mercs were ridiculous, I think they were a bit overkill and also that POK and the POK books may made porting classes useless; that said, bazaar is the best addition that they did. If there were a way to make bazaar activities the same, but in e.c., it would be nice. That way, Nexus and the spires wouldn't activate But I honestly thought that was really cool too.

[shuklak]

Putting trader bots in ec tunnel would be great but hurt rmt i think.

[24kanthony]

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if you had to port to the Pop planes like hate and sky. Could leave PoK out too.

[24kanthony]

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if you had to port to the Pop planes like hate and sky. Could leave PoK out too put a book to it in a VP dragon room or something .

[Sirken]

Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if you had to port to the Pop planes like hate and sky. Could leave PoK out too.

If it was up to me I'd hide the zone ins and rotate which zones are in play. Maybe one month have something in PoFear that will port you to PoNightmare. then after a month remove it and replace with another PoP zone hidden somewhere else.

[LulzSect©]

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[Mead]

https://i.imgur.com/aAQ0QaY.gif

No beastlords
No AA
No Cats
etc

Skip luclin and add Planes of power scaled down to classic levels and stats.
Atleast PoP got music!

j/k

https://www.takproject.net/

The Al'Kabor Project is launching Luclin Expansion today (july 25th)
I know a few people here want some luclin action & I just want to say the best place to find luclin content will be TAKP. You can find more details on their website.

The staff on TAKP are very professional and have years of experience working on the eqemu code. You may even recognize a dev or two over there. ;)
Players are friendly and willing to help new comers get started. There are a few active raiding guilds.

AA
Beastlords
Vashir
Bazzar
Mounts
etc

You can play Project 1999 and TAKP at the same time! :)


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P02 sucks

okay

[Cecily]

No, looks like me going to raid with every thing I think il need

No shit. I was such a hoarder on Cec and the issue was I couldn't get rid of anything because I NEEDED everything I was carrying. Ok.. only 4 empty inventory slots. This is fine. I can make this work.

[Cecily]

I'm much better these days:

https://i.imgur.com/25PUBZg.png

This how my bags were all the time since around 2013 when I fell ill to raiding sickness:

https://i.imgur.com/cZlN2Zr.png

[LulzSect©]

cough cough humble brag

[Ligma]

I feel like most pre-EP mobs are doable without scaling down. Sure you dont have AA but you have rechargeables which is better honestly. If AOW is being single tanked then I feel like 1900 hitters are doable with defensive. Only mob I'm certain wouldn't be killable is rydda dar. Bertox would be a serious pain in the ass but probably doable by keeping your RTs DA and healing through the ae with clickies. Mith marr wouldn't be tankable but easily zergable. RZ doesnt even do anymore dps than AOW. No curse cures is a big problem though.

Some EP minis would probably even be doable.

Would be cool to add some epic quest through bristlebane to get to tranquility (gotta give him some use). Remove droppables to keep economy in tact.

[Canelek]

Ldon's release marks the end of true classic Everquest.

I agree with this. Slotted gear was cool in FFVII though...

[Mblake1981]

If it was up to me I'd hide the zone ins and rotate which zones are in play. Maybe one month have something in PoFear that will port you to PoNightmare. then after a month remove it and replace with another PoP zone hidden somewhere else.

I feel like most pre-EP mobs are doable without scaling down. Sure you dont have AA but you have rechargeables which is better honestly. If AOW is being single tanked then I feel like 1900 hitters are doable with defensive. Only mob I'm certain wouldn't be killable is rydda dar. Bertox would be a serious pain in the ass but probably doable by keeping your RTs DA and healing through the ae with clickies. Mith marr wouldn't be tankable but easily zergable. RZ doesnt even do anymore dps than AOW. No curse cures is a big problem though.

Some EP minis would probably even be doable.

Would be cool to add some epic quest through bristlebane to get to tranquility (gotta give him some use). Remove droppables to keep economy in tact.

[Nirgon]

https://i.imgur.com/pxDxuo6.gif

[Cecily]

I've always been 7 bags, no pumice.

[skarlorn]

1 bag with 60 slots, filled with root nets

[Phenyo]

Bags are 4 plebeians i have a squire to carry all of my belongings

[SamwiseRed]

beastlords were a fun class.

some aas were fun but shit like manaburn broke pvp.

i learned to like the bazaar once i obtained a life outside gaming. sitting in the tunnel was for druggies.

luclin not bad with some adjustments.