Are Rotated Vulaks Really Free?

[Kit]

Tempest fails rotated Vulak due to leashing on pull and loses it to AG/PS. Discuss.

[Bboboo]

yes

next question

[Phenyo]

GZ AG/PS

[Droog007]

Guilds could get smaller

[Mytral]

Fake news. Rotations are not healthy for server competition.

[Bboboo]

no

next question

[Phenyo]

Should just rotate everything with everyone on the server.

Good joke

[Daloon]

Heard Diamondfist and Franswa left guild over it -_-

[Swish2]

Should just rotate everything with everyone on the server.

Caring a lot for someone who doesn't play here anymore ^^

[Bboboo]

swish you're such a petty little cunt are ya? lol

[deezy]

rotate everything 2018

[Nibblewitz]

rotate everything 2018*

*Sontalak is the qualifying mob to be added to the rotation.

[Mytral]

*Sontalak is the qualifying mob to be added to the rotation.

Deal! Can only bring 60 people though....

[stiv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQcXVqNmTj4&feature=youtu.be

[Detoxx]

Only guild to kill Sontalak in 2 years. We did it as a bunch of friend and family who love to laugh, raid and just play EverQuest together!

Apply today!

[m00r5tuD]

Only guild to kill Sontalak in 2 years. We did it as a bunch of friend and family who love to laugh, raid and just play EverQuest together!

Apply today!

don't app AM they wipe to klandi with 65! :eek:

[Detoxx]

It happens. We yolod it without the required pre-slow other guilds need to get and couldnr get it reslowed a second time.

Was a fun race tho.

[Swish2]

swish you're such a petty little cunt are ya? lol

https://i.imgur.com/vhRxWCg.gif

[Senix]

also only guild to sont in the last 2 years is false rustle did it with some sort of team up forgot who with can ask snackies or getsome about it though.

[Senix]

oh yeah it was rustle+ anon although I guess technically you did say guild and not raid force so by word lawyer rules I suppose detoxx is correct.

[icedwards]

yikes

[maskedmelonpai]

...at 9 or 11%?

this is an interesting convention. why not use "about 10%?"

[Legidias]

9/11 CONFIRMED

[reznor_]

9/11 CONFIRMED

[FatMice]

Not sure who cost you Koi and one of the triplets yesterday, but what was it like for them in TS when it went down? Friendly encouragement or did they get the autistic diabetic foaming at the mouth ranting you're known for?

Most likely the melt down version. I got it once when I made the same mistake Detoxx made regarding Net Spamming a pre target. I was out of chargers before I even landed. Who knew yelling over elf sims was the best way to communicate.

[shuklak]

Its safer to yell in discord than outside.

[Raavak]

Not sure who cost you Koi and one of the triplets yesterday, but what was it like for them in TS when it went down? Friendly encouragement or ...New person was learning on the triplet. Hey, at least they stepped up. I think someone was assigned to go over the encounter with them. All is good.

[aaezil]

I just love threads like this cause all the AM apologists come out of their diabetes autist holes to identify themselves to everyone.

[FatMice]

So, unless you're also a chronically underemployed low skill moron, why would you let someone who is less than you in life talk down to you in your chosen format for relaxation? Only if all this "friends who love playing together" is bullshit and you're just in it for the pixels...

Notice it says fuck it below?
You think I still roll in the mud with these “ULSMs” ?

[Batso]

The way corndog stalks AM he must be normal and cool.

[FatMice]

Justifying anything on an elf sim message board. Ha. Why bother.

[Comoc1]

The way corndog stalks AM he must be normal and cool.

+1

[arsenalpow]

Spin !!

[Pint]

The way corndog stalks AM he must be normal and cool.

Preaching about self respect while posting on an anon forum acct lawl

[Daloon]

Life is good

That is all

[Mead]

Life is good

That is all

Dem 20 dollar Mickey D runs got your elcrotlytes imba

[24kanthony]

From what I know, Paradigm had 11 online when the earthquake went off. We started out with enough raid force to get a magi and by the end of the day, had taken down pretty much everything we wanted on our own or with an AG team up for the biggest prizes. Roll as deep as you want but if this casual scum guild decides on any given cycle or quake that we feel like taking the biggest mobs from the "most powerful" guilds on the server, you better not get caught slipping.

[Nibblewitz]

Spin !!

You too can join the most hated guild on the server!

[Mytral]

It still entertains me that a rotation was flat out denied because the top two guilds argued that competition was healthy for the server, then proceed to rotate between themselves......

[Speedi]

It still entertains me that a rotation was flat out denied because the top two guilds argued that competition was healthy for the server, then proceed to rotate between themselves......

Truth bomb!

[Pint]

You too can join the most hated guild on the server!

standards are low but they arent that low, not yet at least

[Linksfather]

It still entertains me that a rotation was flat out denied because the top two guilds argued that competition was healthy for the server, then proceed to rotate between themselves......

False. It was to prevent petition quest every week based on a history of issues.

[Baylan295]

False. It was to prevent petition quest every week based on a history of issues.

Care to elaborate on the list of mobs rotated and the rationale for each one? I am sure there is a good reason to rotate so many mobs.

[24kanthony]

Care to elaborate on the list of mobs rotated and the rationale for each one? I am sure there is a good reason to rotate so many mobs.

You see, it's all about competition. When competing guilds are getting bans or having to forfeit targets after losing control of them, they rotate the spawns because that makes it more competitive and all about who has the most skill, get it?

[Nibblewitz]

You see, it's all about competition. When competing guilds are getting bans or having to forfeit targets after losing control of them, they rotate the spawns because that makes it more competitive and all about who has the most skill, get it?

billymadison.gif

[kotton05]

Only guild to kill Sontalak in 2 years. We did it as a bunch of friend and family who love to laugh, raid and just play EverQuest together!

Apply today!

rustle did it you shitter. oh wait aftermath trained us and you gave us zlandicar keys to not petition you.

[William_Munny15]

You see, it's all about competition. When competing guilds are getting bans or having to forfeit targets after losing control of them, they rotate the spawns because that makes it more competitive and all about who has the most skill, get it?

lmao

[Nexii]

Na, I had decided to leave before the repop. It was just a disagreement about a guild rule, nothing terribly dramatic.

Bummer situation, there's a lot of good people in Tempest and I really liked pulling dragons with them.

The no RNF rule?

[Detoxx]

rustle did it you shitter. oh wait aftermath trained us and you gave us zlandicar keys to not petition you.

You mean you did it from like 8%? Does that even count?

[Detoxx]

You mean you did it from like 8%? Does that even count?

Also while running? :p

[MagpieRockyl]

BDA needs to come back. Chest being objectively terrible is one of the few things all the top raiding guilds have been able to agree on over the years. It would be good for the server.

Yes more BDA MAGA

will dirty my nose for more lewts at the drop of a hat for Chest to re-appear!

[Mytral]

False. It was to prevent petition quest every week based on a history of issues.

So all a guild has to do is hang out in ToV and get their peanut butter mixed up with your chocolate and they to can be invited into the rotation? Got it.....

[Detoxx]

Does it count if you ask ps to help you kill it?

I dunno, ask Tempest.

[Nexii]

I was raiding with another guild for smaller targets. They felt there was a conflict of interest doing so, which was posted in the guild rules. Really they didn't do anything wrong, I just didn't want to have to make a choice between two groups of friends, which I ended up having to do in the end anyway.

I actually didn't have a problem with the no RNF rule. Not much of value is ever posted here, it's mostly just dudes thinking they're funny or people pretending they don't care about P99 while posting about P99 drama obsessively.

You can take my free speech but you'll never take my pixels!

[Nexii]

You mean you did it from like 8%? Does that even count?

With numbers equivalent to an average Sontalak AM kill, Rustle+Anonymous got Sontalak down to 8% (fleeing range). At which point AM trained Rustle with about 20 drakes from above TOV preventing the flee and wiping out everyone. Pretty sure Detoxx wasn't present, that's why the blood payment of a Zlandicar Talisman was paid out some time later. It seemed deliberate, but this is 'roll the dice' AM prior to eating 20 day suspensions. AM's approach has changed since then whereas Awakened kept rolling the dice

[Mead]

I was raiding with another guild for smaller targets. They felt there was a conflict of interest doing so, which was posted in the guild rules. Really they didn't do anything wrong, I just didn't want to have to make a choice between two groups of friends, which I ended up having to do in the end anyway.

I actually didn't have a problem with the no RNF rule. Not much of value is ever posted here, it's mostly just dudes thinking they're funny or people pretending they don't care about P99 while posting about P99 drama obsessively.

check out a top quality thread by one of our top quality posters

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301484

[Detoxx]

With numbers equivalent to an average Sontalak AM kill, Rustle+Anonymous got Sontalak down to 8% (fleeing range). At which point AM trained Rustle with about 20 drakes from above TOV preventing the flee and wiping out everyone. Pretty sure Detoxx wasn't present, that's why the blood payment of a Zlandicar Talisman was paid out some time later. It seemed deliberate, but this is 'roll the dice' AM prior to eating 20 day suspensions. AM's approach has changed since then whereas Awakened kept rolling the dice

Find it hard to believe that it was intentional on a mob that no one has cared about for almost 2 years. Also why would we intentionally train you just to give up a zlandi key? Nothing for us to gain out of that entire situation. I assume we fucked up and tried to make it right which is quite the opposite of rolling the dice with the staff.

[Mead]

Find it hard to believe that it was intentional on a mob that no one has cared about for almost 2 years. Also why would we intentionally train you just to give up a zlandi key? Nothing for us to gain out of that entire situation. I assume we fucked up and tried to make it right which is quite the opposite of rolling the dice with the staff.

You mean you did it from like 8%? Does that even count?

Also while running? :p

You seem to not be caring years later

Keep up the good work

[Detoxx]

You care a whole lot. You post about sont whenever you need a leg up on bragging.

Just pointing out the flaws in saying we trained on purpose. The whole comment you quoted has zero bragging or mention of killing sontalak.

[Freakish]

Find it hard to believe that it was intentional on a mob that no one has cared about for almost 2 years. Also why would we intentionally train you just to give up a zlandi key? Nothing for us to gain out of that entire situation. I assume we fucked up and tried to make it right which is quite the opposite of rolling the dice with the staff.

That's one example of why rustle got along with AM. We had a problem and you were willing to make it right without having to go to petitionquest. Merkk and I were the last two alive and what happened was your wyvern kite got too close and got proximity aggro. Wyverns were killing us off and your kiter was summoned as soon as the last person died.

[Baler]

yes

next question

/thread
Rnf goblins and trolls can move on

[TimTheToolmanTaylor]

^ title alone is TOV rotated now? what kind of casual server is this now? holy hell what have i missed?

[Baylan295]

^ title alone is TOV rotated now? what kind of casual server is this now? holy hell what have i missed?

Vulak (among other mobs...) is rotated on earthquakes.

[kotton05]

Find it hard to believe that it was intentional on a mob that no one has cared about for almost 2 years. Also why would we intentionally train you just to give up a zlandi key? Nothing for us to gain out of that entire situation. I assume we fucked up and tried to make it right which is quite the opposite of rolling the dice with the staff.
It wasn’t just one mob, was like 30 in a murder ball that had been kited, y’all even tried to jump Rustle at Velkator once and wiped was lul. You wasn’t on by the way prolly never be was told how it didn’t end in a petition from getsome

[Nexii]

Find it hard to believe that it was intentional on a mob that no one has cared about for almost 2 years. Also why would we intentionally train you just to give up a zlandi key? Nothing for us to gain out of that entire situation. I assume we fucked up and tried to make it right which is quite the opposite of rolling the dice with the staff.

AM didn't lose anything since they killed Sontalak and looted Rustle's key. There absolutely was something to gain.

[Comoc1]

You Rustle guys musta forgot you teamed up with Anonymous for that Sont raid.

AM still the only active guild to down Sont. Had Rustle and Anon killed Sont that statement would still be valid.

Get over it.

[DinoTriz]

https://imgur.com/Ve9UxCK.gif

[isiah]

Remember when Sontalak got nerfed multiple times and isn't a difficult encounter anymore?

I remember.

[sereal]

Whens tmo making their return to glory?

[LulzSect©]

would this have happened on red? 🤔

[Baylan295]

You Rustle guys musta forgot you teamed up with Anonymous for that Sont raid.

AM still the only active guild to down Sont. Had Rustle and Anon killed Sont that statement would still be valid.

Get over it.

I think the point being made by the Rustle folks is that this would not be true absent the train that resulted in a Zlandi key being given to them. As a result of that train, AM gets to keep saying it’s the only guild to kill Sont, and it objectively gave up nothing (a key for a key...).

Why does a team up nullify credit for a kill? Because you said so? Eh, no offense, but I don’t buy that logic. FTE is FTE, and absent schenanigans which are against the rules, a kill is a kill. The mob died and dropped loot, didn’t it?

I sure as hell know that I helped kill the Vulak that started this thread, and I’m damn proud of it. Just like I’m sure that the Rustle/Anon crew would have been proud as hell of that Sont kill, had it been completed - and I understand they are alleging that was taken from them, which sucks, if true.

[Lammy]

Rustle was the best guild to ever exist. Leadership. Talent. and Policy.

[sereal]

would this have happened on red? 🤔

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

https://i.imgur.com/Lh5bqyl.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest

[sereal]

Sri Adisankara raised similar question "If no one is seeing sky whether it will be blue?"

LulzSect© wasn't the first to raise this philosophical question and we will probably never know what the true answer is.

[Comoc1]

Uyan still salty asf

No those are the ten, seven layer bean and cheese burritos you had last night. Or one seventy layer bean and cheese burrito, how ever you want to look at it.

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/sK4kUkv.gif

[d3r14k]

It is only a seventy layer burrito if you stack 10x seven layer burritos on top of one another. Or does it count when all ten burritos congeal in your stomach?

Science has gone too far.

[Cecily]

Vulak's just another word for nothing less to lose.

[Zekayy]

Remember when Sontalak got nerfed multiple times and isn't a difficult encounter anymore?

I remember.

if thats the case why does nobody attempt to do him anymore?

[icedwards]

if thats the case why does nobody attempt to do him anymore?

Because ST keys are practically useless currently?

[Baylan295]

Because when 2 guilds team up, you cant say a single guild killed it. So if Rustle and Anon teamed up for a kill, you cant say that Rustle killed it because they couldn't do it on their own, the same thing for Anon.

You really don't think that makes sense?

This only makes sense if you are trying to trivialize the accomplishments of smaller guilds who cannot or do not regularly field 80+ person raid forces for top end content. I was there for the aforementioned Vulak kill. I helped kill Vulak. My guild was there. We got a clean FTE. The mob died. We got loot from Vulak. How does that jive with you saying we “can’t say PS (or AG) killed Vulak”?

The mob is dead and we did it. Period. You want to put an asterisk on it? Say we didn’t kill it solo? Go ahead, it’s true, but it’s rhetorically and logically unsound to say we didn’t or can’t do it just because we didn’t do it solo. It sounds a hell of a lot different to say “PS can’t say it killed Vulak” compared to “PS can’t say it killed Vulak solo.”

[Zutizutzut]

Funny shit. Still crowing about Sont and being very careful to word it as if it was some great accomplishment when it had been killed by Rampage many times, with fewer people, with little to no deaths on many of the kills a very long time before AM.

On top of that, Awakened planned on killing Sont the very week AM did and it is extremely likely, based on forum spying, that is why AM nutted up to try before Awakeneds scheduled time for the kill.

It isn't a big accomplishment, nor is the killing of it worth the time. Thus Awakened didn't bother and instead went for something that hadn't been killed on the server.

Furthermore, I saw that first kill. LOL. Bind rushing naked people streaming out, grabbing a weapon, dying within seconds *repeat*...win! Lordy. Worth it. Server 2nd (unless you count each occurrence of Sont kill from Rampage in which case maybe Server 20th?).

I love some of you guys, but geez... hang your hat on something better than Sont or just be satisfied with the current state of affairs granted you by GM decisions where you get to scrape up most of the loot. You won P99!

[Sadiki]

Why can't you all realize EQ is hard

[Jimjam]

The only dragon kill that mattered was sleeper. Grats Zek.

[Detoxx]

Funny shit. Still crowing about Sont and being very careful to word it as if it was some great accomplishment when it had been killed by Rampage many times, with fewer people, with little to no deaths on many of the kills a very long time before AM.

On top of that, Awakened planned on killing Sont the very week AM did and it is extremely likely, based on forum spying, that is why AM nutted up to try before Awakeneds scheduled time for the kill.

It isn't a big accomplishment, nor is the killing of it worth the time. Thus Awakened didn't bother and instead went for something that hadn't been killed on the server.

Furthermore, I saw that first kill. LOL. Bind rushing naked people streaming out, grabbing a weapon, dying within seconds *repeat*...win! Lordy. Worth it. Server 2nd (unless you count each occurrence of Sont kill from Rampage in which case maybe Server 20th?).

I love some of you guys, but geez... hang your hat on something better than Sont or just be satisfied with the current state of affairs granted you by GM decisions where you get to scrape up most of the loot. You won P99!

Mad Awakened lived and died never killing Sont, Sorry bro!

[Zutizutzut]

Mad Awakened lived and died never killing Sont, Sorry bro!

Uh, I killed Sont long before you did and haven't spent the years since bragging about it. Why don't you impress us with a list of all your guilds server firsts? Real firsts. Mad bro? Not me.

Keep talking about Sont all you want.

[Gimp]

Mad Awakened lived and died never killing Sont, Sorry bro!

This just in: Awakened was a shit guild

More at 11

[Hyjalx]

Stop acting like running a guild better than Bellringer and Flickk is some sort of accomplishment, Detoxx. They both had a combined 4 hours of tracking between them before Tempest started.

Even Awakened got the better half of you before the guild was torn apart. We had like what, 13 Vulaks in a row at one point? This was after basically losing half of our guild and inheriting Taken. You basically had to be handed the keys through suspensions to rule the ashes.

Velious was already farmed to hell and defeated before your guild had 10 ST keys.


Don't ever forget that.

[Wonkie]

Stop acting like running a guild better than Bellringer and Flickk is some sort of accomplishment, Detoxx. They both had a combined 4 hours of tracking between them before Tempest started.

Even Awakened got the better half of you before the guild was torn apart. We had like what, 13 Vulaks in a row at one point? This was after basically losing half of our guild and inheriting Taken. You basically had to be handed the keys through suspensions to rule the ashes.

Velious was already farmed to hell and defeated before your guild had 10 ST keys.


Don't ever forget that.

this is badass

[Doil_Boil]

To be fair, the "accomplishments" happened 20 years ago. Ya'll are just competing now over who has less of a life to implement shit off a wiki.

Hahahaha- truest thing in this thread.

[shuklak]

To be fair, the "accomplishments" happened 20 years ago. Ya'll are just competing now over who has less of a life to implement shit off a wiki.

But but but

[skarlorn]

To be fair, the "accomplishments" happened 20 years ago. Ya'll are just competing now over who has less of a life to implement shit off a wiki.

[sereal]

This got savage real fast :(:(:(:(:(

[Detoxx]

Stop acting like running a guild better than Bellringer and Flickk is some sort of accomplishment, Detoxx. They both had a combined 4 hours of tracking between them before Tempest started.

Even Awakened got the better half of you before the guild was torn apart. We had like what, 13 Vulaks in a row at one point? This was after basically losing half of our guild and inheriting Taken. You basically had to be handed the keys through suspensions to rule the ashes.

Velious was already farmed to hell and defeated before your guild had 10 ST keys.


Don't ever forget that.

And during all this you, someone who has been on the server since probably day one, has never come close to accomplishing anything of any relevance.

*Just remember, every guild you join dies. You're a cancer who tried to lead and failed miserably. Every. Single. Time.

[fstyle3454]

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[Mead]

woke up to cringe fest 2018

[Cecily]

I miss waking up after 5pm.

[Mead]

I miss waking up after 5pm.

I think we're wanting to wake up after 5pm for different reasons :)

[Hyjalx]

If anyone failed Detoxx, it's you. You decided to take TMO for yourself and form Forsaken months before Velious was released, and it fell flat.

IB and A-team did the same thing to form Rampage, but that worked out. Why? Could the reason be that you were not properly prepared?

If I recall, you were learning how to do Plane of Hate in Asgard..... 3 years after Kunark was released. I was in Asgard on one of my alts, Kelsiferous. I use to group with you.

And Ramen, lol. You cut bait and took off at the first sign of competition. It's the same reason it took you 6 years after Kunark to get your epic.

It's probably a fare bet that you still don't have one either.

[Cecily]

I think we're wanting to wake up after 5pm for different reasons :)

Probably! I just strongly prefer night time aesthetics / vibes if I'm going out.

[MagpieRockyl]

Why did forsaken awaken sleeper? dumb fucks fucked themselves.

[sereal]

anyone got cliffs notes they can share?

[Bboboo]

anyone got cliffs notes they can share?

https://i.imgur.com/l0iaSOK.png