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Caz
05-25-2018, 08:42 PM
So im in DN killing a few mobs and along comes 4 man team pulls the whole spider pack of spiders dies a couple of times I have to zone due to their fails and in the end due to lack of mobs just had to leave…. this is correct yes when a bard swarmer comes along I have to look somewhere else. Thanks for the info. Oh ye when i said you could at least ask if someone was camping he gave me the whole fte talk there is no camp. So as I have said I guess as soon as the bard zones in its cya guys nice knowing ya

End rant I guess.

chadtwoke
05-25-2018, 08:55 PM
C L A S S I C

Foxplay
05-25-2018, 08:58 PM
Any more than 4 targets engaged at a time and you can peel from him. If they train you that can also be petitioned, also you can petition them for zone disruption by monopolizing all spawns that you where killing prior to them getting there.

Prior to escalating to a GM should attempt talking with them to see if they will leave a few spiders alone for you and come to a player agreement.

But judging by your words in that they gave you the "FTE talk" they just sound like typical p99 retards that try to use the rules to bully other players

Pezy
05-25-2018, 08:59 PM
Zone Disruptions
Disrupting the gameplay for others in a zone is not allowed. This can include, but is not limited to:

* Monopolizing/Engaging/Occupying most or all of the mobs in a non-raid area. This can be with or without intent to kill.
* Deliberately using physics to block players' access through doorways or narrow areas.
* Refusal to cooperate/arbitrate with other players, particularly after the direction of a CSR.
* Abuse of public channels (Spamming, Language/Harrassment). This rule applies to OOC, Shout, Auction, Say, Emote, Spellcasting, or any action that displays a public message.
* Intentional lagging of any method (Exessive unnecessary actions, creation of numerous corpses, spamming spells and spell effects, etc).
* Causing deaths / experience loss for other players (Blocking players, intentional training, etc).

/petition

Caz
05-25-2018, 09:03 PM
Any more than 4 targets engaged at a time and you can peel from him. If they train you that can also be petitioned, also you can petition them for zone disruption by monopolizing all spawns that you where killing prior to them getting there.

Prior to escalating to a GM should attempt talking with them to see if they will leave a few spiders alone for you and come to a player agreement.

But judging by your words in that they gave you the "FTE talk" they just sound like typical p99 retards that try to use the rules to bully other players

I got pissed and logged Ill get up early tommorrow . So basically you recommend i grab a mob off the swarm you see I dont want to get banned Im not in a guild and just play for the funsies when I want but i was hoping to push to 60 and everything got disrupted he said dont worry if you die ill rez he was sorry that I had to zone but there wasnt a single mob up to kill I donated for a c2 watched it fade on me without getting a single kill

rictus204
05-25-2018, 09:09 PM
find another bard to run in the heart of that swarm and drop fear bombs.

Foxplay
05-25-2018, 09:34 PM
Lol didn't even realize they turned on XP bonus. Yea p99 can be kinda crazy during xp bonuses ppl you never see come out of the woodwork. First XP bonus weekend I ever saw was in Seb and it was terrible so many ppl fighting over spawns I'm certain everyone ended up getting less exp

Vallaen
05-25-2018, 09:46 PM
The bard will be a bit cause hes swarm PLing 3 people

Baler
05-25-2018, 10:56 PM
25 mob limit now-a-days.
OP is Privileged.

loramin
05-25-2018, 11:20 PM
I got pissed and logged Ill get up early tommorrow . So basically you recommend i grab a mob off the swarm you see I dont want to get banned Im not in a guild and just play for the funsies when I want but i was hoping to push to 60 and everything got disrupted he said dont worry if you die ill rez he was sorry that I had to zone but there wasnt a single mob up to kill I donated for a c2 watched it fade on me without getting a single kill

Personally I would not recommend stealing one of their mob: it's only going to escalate the situation.

Just petition and wait patiently, grabbing what few mobs you can. When the GMs get there it will be obvious that you're the rational person trying to play a game and they're the troublemakers. But as soon as you try and take matters into your own hands you start looking like a troublemaker too.

radda
05-26-2018, 12:37 AM
find another bard to run in the heart of that swarm and drop fear bombs.

Foxplay
05-26-2018, 01:23 AM
Personally I would not recommend stealing one of their mob: it's only going to escalate the situation.

Just petition and wait patiently, grabbing what few mobs you can. When the GMs get there it will be obvious that you're the rational person trying to play a game and they're the troublemakers. But as soon as you try and take matters into your own hands you start looking like a troublemaker too.

If possible comming to a civil player agreement first prior to involving a GM is even better. Just petition and wait game is partly what these players want because they may end up screwing you over for 2hours before a GM has the time to show up. Be an adult and communicate, if they don't want to respond or have no desire to reach a mutual agreement or even better are toxic in their response all the better when a GM does show up

Argh
05-26-2018, 01:58 AM
You try just talking to the person?

Jimjam
05-26-2018, 02:24 AM
'Peeling a mob' might not work as they may end up dumping the train on you (especially near dn zone line).

Bboboo
05-26-2018, 02:41 AM
log out

go outside

come back on tuesday

Caz
05-26-2018, 05:30 AM
woke up to same thing I asked the guy if i could grab from his swarm being polite

[Sat May 26 11:42:03 2018] You told XXXXX, 'ill grab 4 when you bring em out if u dont mind'
[Sat May 26 11:42:22 2018] XXXX tells you, 'this is my last kite then im goipgn to bed'


Not gonna name shame not my style I can go play something else but share nope not in their vocabulary I was 2 min online this time he had a Construct spawn on him offered him a TL so he could drag away and fix the zone NOT EVEN AFTER THAT DEED was I in His selfish mind worthy of 4 mobs

Caz
05-26-2018, 05:31 AM
Oh ye in his mind im supposed to sit with c2 running until he finishes having a dump because hey THE ZONE IS MINE

Caz
05-26-2018, 05:36 AM
If possible comming to a civil player agreement first prior to involving a GM is even better. Just petition and wait game is partly what these players want because they may end up screwing you over for 2hours before a GM has the time to show up. Be an adult and communicate, if they don't want to respond or have no desire to reach a mutual agreement or even better are toxic in their response all the better when a GM does show up

I did he said they didnt have all the mobs I dont wear glasses and my monitor is quite sparkly and I assure you not a single spider up. So i did what most would do when a guy is giving you the p99 camp speech log off. I deal with human behaviour on a daily basis logging into a game and have it placed in front of you well as I said its 30 sec to log out took me 3 years to log in last time

Caz
05-26-2018, 05:38 AM
log out

go outside

come back on tuesday

Yup Mid day goin for a walk ill come back in a couple hours if same shit sayonara p99

thebutthat
05-26-2018, 06:43 AM
Trigger all the dragon constructs, put them at the zone line. Call it a day.

Mistle
05-26-2018, 08:02 AM
The characters lost in the Aftermath RMT ban wave wont replace themselves, OP. There are stocks to replenish you know...

Caz
05-26-2018, 08:08 AM
dayum son you mad

was me doing a few kites before bed. no need to hide behind names. Soon as i saw another person wanting some spiders I am willing to give it up and go to sleep.

Not everyone is going to be willing to leave when others want some xp. Specially during xp bonus weekend. Good luck? I dont know what do tell ya but i feel some more posts coming our way.

Did I help you? Yes
Did i ask for 4 mobs out of your swarm? Yes What was the reply? Wait till I finish Im master of the zone …. C2 lasts 30 min thats how long it takes for you to kill and respawn. And yes as I said Ive been trained by bards been lold at in ooc and im just having a rant but while you arent hiding its a bit selfish to hoard all the mobs in the zone and say to the other people just wait till ive finished doin my shit. Just saying

Caz
05-26-2018, 08:11 AM
The characters lost in the Aftermath RMT ban wave wont replace themselves, OP. There are stocks to replenish you know...

Never been in a guild with over 5 people just saying I log in kill a few mobs not really interested in raiding already been told its much worse that what i am experiencing and I quit last time if thats what you are refering to for some "friends" so called being selfish play for fun I rub your back you rub mine you dont see ya later.

Littul Jonn
05-26-2018, 09:47 AM
Any more than 4 targets engaged at a time and you can peel from him. If they train you that can also be petitioned, also you can petition them for zone disruption by monopolizing all spawns that you where killing prior to them getting there.

Prior to escalating to a GM should attempt talking with them to see if they will leave a few spiders alone for you and come to a player agreement.

But judging by your words in that they gave you the "FTE talk" they just sound like typical p99 retards that try to use the rules to bully other players

I've never seen the any more than 4 mobs and you can pull off a bards swarm. Bard swarming definitely monopolizes the zone so it's best to make nice with the people working there though. Is that 4 mobs and you can pull of a bards swarm a made up thing that druids/wizards say because they can only kite 4 mobs and have some bard envy? Genuinely curious

Triiz
05-26-2018, 10:42 AM
I've never seen the any more than 4 mobs and you can pull off a bards swarm. Bard swarming definitely monopolizes the zone so it's best to make nice with the people working there though. Is that 4 mobs and you can pull of a bards swarm a made up thing that druids/wizards say because they can only kite 4 mobs and have some bard envy? Genuinely curious

Pretty sure a GM, maybe Sirken, said that several years ago. Considering how many terrible bards there are on this server that have like a 50/50 chance of wiping on every pull it's pretty risky to do with social mobs though.

Wonkie
05-26-2018, 10:47 AM
ex awakened steals mobs from honest player

Triiz
05-26-2018, 10:48 AM
Here it is

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1176824&postcount=29

as far as swarm kiting bards, some earlier poster hit the nail on the head. the problem isnt that bards round up a hundred mobs; the problem is that it TAKES SO LONG to round up and then kite down the mobs, and as previously mentioned, can prevent anyone else from seeing a pop for over an hour. ive seen this in OoT, DL, and OT entirely too often, and i have told players repeatedly that if you can not find a mob because some one is kiting more than 4 of them, feel free to peel one off. no staff member is going to give a player grief for peeling 1 mob off a bard thats kiting an entire zone (or an entire island in the OoT situations).

rictus204
05-26-2018, 11:48 AM
peeling mobs is for fools, just derail that swarm train over and over till the bard gets fed up and leaves. I fearbombed countless bard swarms and they all cried they were sending in petitions... i always wondered how that goes..

"so here i was in whateverzone swarming up all the monsters so nobody else can kill any, and this guy has the audacity to come in and put and end to it...."

plus you get fun tells like this..
https://imgur.com/a/c9vKews

rictus204
05-26-2018, 11:49 AM
https://imgur.com/a/c9vKews

Jimjam
05-26-2018, 11:53 AM
peeling mobs is for fools, just derail that swarm train over and over till the bard gets fed up and leaves. I fearbombed countless bard swarms and they all cried they were sending in petitions... i always wondered how that goes..

"so here i was in whateverzone swarming up all the monsters so nobody else can kill any, and this guy has the audacity to come in and put and end to it...."

plus you get fun tells like this..
https://imgur.com/a/c9vKews

I wish players claiming fraud/petition were obliged to post videos an public petition.

It's a bully tactic.

Jimjam
05-26-2018, 11:55 AM
Fraud should read fraps but nice autocorrect fail.

Caz
05-26-2018, 01:29 PM
Thankyou for all the information I recieved I managed to grab a 4 hour window with no swarmers just people doin regular stuff and I dinged 60 so rant off.

NegaStoat
05-26-2018, 02:01 PM
Peal mobs that are social to other mobs in the zone. You especially want Casting mobs that are social that can cast Root. Once you have a good pack aggro'd with the casters, use feign death with your SoW'd character that is doing this. Problem solved.
Bonus points for having a rez capable cleric in the zone to scam a beefy donation from the bard before you log back to start it up all over again if they stay in the zone swarming mobs.

NegaStoat
05-26-2018, 02:07 PM
Whoops. The above advice is intended for use on an Everquest private server of your choice that is NOT P1999, obviously. Because seeking revenge on a bard not honoring your outdoor camp of a few miserable mobs that you've been killing for over an hour would be WRONG somehow.

kotton05
05-26-2018, 03:39 PM
You are very descriptive I like it

Pryda
05-26-2018, 04:07 PM
People cry too much. Fix the issue yourself instead of crying to God.

sereal
05-26-2018, 10:25 PM
why can't people show a little common decency? I mean grabbing a couple mobs is like not a big deal?

Pezy
05-26-2018, 11:55 PM
Whatever you do, don't accidentally trigger a bone trap near where he's swarming. That'd be mean.

Dalven
05-28-2018, 04:26 AM
find another bard to run in the heart of that swarm and drop fear bombs.

https://i.imgur.com/JXvhwlC.gif

<3

rictus204
05-28-2018, 11:57 AM
oh dalven, that gif is just so juicy! i can almost see the rage in anichek's eyes.

Jokesteve
05-28-2018, 12:08 PM
So im in DN killing a few mobs and along comes 4 man team pulls the whole spider pack of spiders dies a couple of times I have to zone due to their fails and in the end due to lack of mobs just had to leave…. this is correct yes when a bard swarmer comes along I have to look somewhere else. Thanks for the info. Oh ye when i said you could at least ask if someone was camping he gave me the whole fte talk there is no camp. So as I have said I guess as soon as the bard zones in its cya guys nice knowing ya

End rant I guess.

Theres few places to swarm, and tons of places to solo EXP. Move on and quit ya bitching imo. DN is built for bards, not for solo exp.

This is classic as it gets.

Dalven
06-01-2018, 04:21 AM
oh dalven, that gif is just so juicy! i can almost see the rage in anichek's eyes.

Makes me laugh everytime!

Tenderizer
06-01-2018, 07:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/JXvhwlC.gif

<3

nice to see that again and chuckle.