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xshayla701
03-12-2011, 03:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPCvGSzsbE

"so there you fucking go"

Hasbinbad
03-12-2011, 04:05 AM
The death penalty needs to have an expanded scope.

Loke
03-12-2011, 04:29 AM
I got like 30 seconds in before losing interest. All I took away from it was that she doesn't want to get raped and beat up by some rando.

Rilkean
03-12-2011, 05:47 AM
Ehhhh too paranoid and still victimizing for me. Much more my style...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEj-MCWjD-8&feature=related

kinuven
03-12-2011, 06:05 AM
cool

deathgirl
03-12-2011, 06:20 AM
Ehhhh too paranoid and still victimizing for me. Much more my style...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEj-MCWjD-8&feature=related

seconded, although something about lydia has always been a little offputting. her logic is too reactionary, i dunno.

..just finished that vid, worst I've ever seen of her. she's more than a little reactionary, she just mad.

ps GG GG BABY BABY BABY

Alawen Everywhere
03-12-2011, 09:31 AM
If I were a woman, I would carry.

Koota
03-12-2011, 10:19 AM
black dude in the back is not amused.

quellren
03-12-2011, 11:42 AM
Being male, I will concede that I don't see the world through a woman's eyes.
However... that lady makes me shake my head in pity.
How on earth does someone with that much misandry even function?
I don't think it's naive to call bullshit when she says she goes through life with the knowledge that 'at any moment she could be raped'.
Yes, there are some bad people out there that do fucked up things, but I'm almost positive that a_random_guy01 that passes you on the street isn't stalking you on the tiny chance he can drag you into the bushes and cut you into tiny pieces.
@Melissa Carter:
Stop watching so much NCIS and Law and Order: SVU.
This kind of fear-mongering benefits no one.

xshayla701
03-12-2011, 01:18 PM
The Lydia video was interesting, clearly she's pissed off at the world and rightfully so, I guess. A lot of her points I agree with but what she said about childhood abuse was a little fucked up.

What I got out of the video I posted was towards the end - which makes it a little disheartening, but no surprise, that Loke didn't watch to the end because it was too boring. What you will never understand is this: if I have to get gas when I get off of work at midnight, I pick up my boyfriend to come to the gas station with me. I refuse to take night classes because I'm too scared to walk through a parking lot at night. Even walking from my driveway to my house makes me a little nervous sometimes (granted, I realize completely that this is unreasonable) because sexual predators are everywhere.

Now I can go online and look up sex offenders and I notice two in paticular: a man who was convicted of child molestation and a man that was convicted of rape, and the fact that they now live just a couple miles from my house. A girl that went to my high school a while back was raped in her own home. So yeah, a_random_guy01 might just be a sexual predator. I realize it's silly to go through life afraid, but like it was said in the first video, men will never understand. God forbid you have a mother, wife, fiance, girlfriend, sister, cousin, daughter even that will ever be a victim of sexual assault but that is really the closest you will ever come to beginning to understand what it's like to walk down the street and know that it could affect your life. As unlikely as it is - it could happen.

I really just posted it cause I thought it was interesting. Thought someone else might find it interesting as well.

"If someone could do this to her, it could happen to me. Don't you get that? But wait, you're a guy. You have nothing to worry about. Serial killers rarely kill grown men. So there you fucking go...with your six feet of height and your dick between your legs, you don't have nothing to worry about. Except for me, you should be worried about me...because the reality is literally at any point I could be raped."

Sephrana
03-12-2011, 01:56 PM
because sexual predators are everywhere.

Now I can go online and look up sex offenders and I notice two in paticular: a man who was convicted of child molestation and a man that was convicted of rape, and the fact that they now live just a couple miles from my house. A girl that went to my high school a while back was raped in her own home. So yeah, a_random_guy01 might just be a sexual predator.

Just to underscore this....A few years ago I was living in an apartment complex. I came out of my apartment one morning about 9am to head to work - I am NEVER home that late in the morning...I actually had left that morning at 4:30a and came back... I made it down the stairs to my car and was searching in my purse for my cell phone to make a phone call and realized I didn't have it...

I got out of my car and a guy who had been standing by a car a few down from me walks up and introduces himself to me. Says he's new in town and asks if I know of anywhere he can get a job. Keeps talking to me etc. I cut the convo short because I needed to get to work..

He seemed like a completely nice guy - I got no weird vibes for him at all. I am an EXTREMELY suspicious person so...I felt totally safe, went upstairs into my apartment. I locked the deadbolt on the door ONLY out of habit. While in the bedroom looking for my phone I thought I heard my doorknob.....before I opened the door I peeked out the peep hole and dude is standing on the landing. i think he had tried to open my door!

I called my boss before i walked out the door, got her on the phone....THEN opened the door...smiled at the guy - told him good luck, and talked to my boss until i was locked in my car. I thought it was creepy but didn't really think much of it....

Until 3 nights later when I hear commotion outside my window at 3am....I look out the window and the cops are arresting the man who had talked to me that morning.

The next day I looked at the sherriffs booking log online.....

What was he arrested for? Rape and aggravated assault.

SO. That morning. If not for my habitual door locking. It could have been me.

Rilkean
03-12-2011, 03:07 PM
I take all types of preventative measures... i.e. pepper spray in hand safety off while walking to car FROM MY NIGHT CLASS ;), keys out, unlock car, lock car right when I get in... usually on the phone... etc.

I guess the big thing for me is that I'd never let fear stop me from doing something I want to do, on my own, independently. I think that'd just defeat the purpose of my life.

I don't expect a dude to understand because like you said, he never will soooo... fuck em. Aaanyways, they have enough identity problems of their own these days.... ;)

pps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

xshayla701
03-12-2011, 05:03 PM
I take all types of preventative measures... i.e. pepper spray in hand safety off while walking to car FROM MY NIGHT CLASS ;), keys out, unlock car, lock car right when I get in... usually on the phone... etc.

I guess the big thing for me is that I'd never let fear stop me from doing something I want to do, on my own, independently. I think that'd just defeat the purpose of my life.

This. It's insane to live in fear, but it's also insane to think it could never happen to you.

I also was reading something that said the way some women dress can be "asking to get raped." What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Sephrana
03-12-2011, 05:13 PM
I guess the big thing for me is that I'd never let fear stop me from doing something I want to do, on my own, independently. I think that'd just defeat the purpose of my life.

Yep. That's how I am. nobody is going to steal my joy. :)

purist
03-12-2011, 05:14 PM
"One in seven people believe it is acceptable in some circumstances for a man to hit his wife or girlfriend if she is dressed in “sexy or revealing clothes in public”, according to the findings of a survey released today. A similar number believed that it was all right for a man to slap his wife or girlfriend if she is “nagging or constantly moaning at him”. The findings of the poll, conducted for the Home Office, also disclosed about a quarter of people believe that wearing sexy or revealing clothing should lead to a woman being held partly responsible for being raped or sexually assaulted.""

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5875108.ece

Otto
03-12-2011, 05:15 PM
I also was reading something that said the way some women dress can be "asking to get raped." What the fuck is wrong with some people?

The same thing that makes people 'grateful' for the earthquake in Japan and are claiming it is karma for them attacking pearl harbor.

Some people are just stupid or mean or emotionless. Fact of life =/

Rilkean
03-12-2011, 06:51 PM
Fear is the mind killer.... :p:p

Haul
03-12-2011, 06:55 PM
I got like 30 seconds in before losing interest. All I took away from it was that she doesn't want to get raped and beat up by some rando.

right there with you on that

kinuven
03-12-2011, 07:06 PM
I take all types of preventative measures... i.e. pepper spray in hand safety off while walking to car FROM MY NIGHT CLASS ;), keys out, unlock car, lock car right when I get in... usually on the phone... etc.

I guess the big thing for me is that I'd never let fear stop me from doing something I want to do, on my own, independently. I think that'd just defeat the purpose of my life.

I don't expect a dude to understand because like you said, he never will soooo... fuck em. Aaanyways, they have enough identity problems of their own these days.... ;)

pps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

awesome.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 03:44 AM
I take all types of preventative measures... i.e. pepper spray in hand safety off while walking to car FROM MY NIGHT CLASS ;), keys out, unlock car, lock car right when I get in... usually on the phone... etc.


Isn't that the same rational as people locking their doors when they go through a predominantly black area? I understand that you're afraid of getting the rape, just like some scrawny white kid is scared to roll through Watts or East side Chicago but I think the whole "fear-state" mindset towards strangers is a bit absurd.

Most rapes occur from someone you know, not some total stranger if you're ever in a hostile situation with a complete stranger it's usually hit-and-go robbery and isn't sexually motivated... In a sense they just want to coerce you into giving them your money and dipset before the police show up.

But you saying "I have to be armed to the teeth because I'm afraid of unknown rapists at night" is like me saying "I have to be armed to the teeth because I don't trust ******s and I'm in the ghetto"

audacity
03-13-2011, 04:07 AM
A friend of mine was dating a girl for a few months, and it was her b-day. He was pretty much broke at the time, so he did the only logical thing a guy could do when he doesn't have any money for his new gf.

He put on a ski mask and broke into her house and raped her. After he AND her was finished he removed the mask.

8 years later they are still happily married.

So look at it that way ladies, you may just meet the man of your dreams! And you all think rape is bad, pfff.

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 06:05 AM
"If someone could do this to her, it could happen to me. Don't you get that? But wait, you're a guy. You have nothing to worry about. Serial killers rarely kill grown men. So there you fucking go...with your six feet of height and your dick between your legs, you don't have nothing to worry about. Except for me, you should be worried about me...because the reality is literally at any point I could be raped."

I understand this quiteee thoroughly. Except, I feel like I'm a force to be reckoned with, unarmed. Maybe I'm naive. But I think I could cause quite a bit of damage to an assailant.. provided they're engaging with nothing but hand-to-hand.. and maybe just meleean with a rusty dagger =\

fuuuuuu Rilkean, I'd opened your link in a new tab and it loaded completely before I saw what it was -.- gaaaaaaaaaaaaygaygaygay bbybbybby

abacab's a racist

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 07:08 AM
I understand this quiteee thoroughly. Except, I feel like I'm a force to be reckoned with, unarmed. Maybe I'm naive. But I think I could cause quite a bit of damage to an assailant.. provided they're engaging with nothing but hand-to-hand.. and maybe just meleean with a rusty dagger =\

fuuuuuu Rilkean, I'd opened your link in a new tab and it loaded completely before I saw what it was -.- gaaaaaaaaaaaaygaygaygay bbybbybby

abacab's a racist

You're a sexist, not everyone with a penis is in the mood to rape you... No one asked you to prom, and that is my first tier of evidence.

I'm bringing in a small scope of reality, and in my opinion because you're afraid of being alone at night because there might be a "rapist" out there, you're probably afraid to be outside of white suburbia. I also don't believe I'm being racist by stating the fact that if I walk my 130 lb hipster ass through the WORST minority ghettos in the United States that'd I'd be cautious about being jumped because I'm white.

I've had a friend that was straight 5v1'd over on 44th and Emerson simply because he was white in a prominently black area, they pretty much ganged him over the color of his skin and made it apparent through use of slurs and telling him "You don't belong here whiteboy" so when girls ramble on about "You don't know what it's like to be victimized!" I call bullshit because there are some places I can go and won't make it out alive because the color of my skin.

Then again, I'm never in those areas because I don't routinely flash my iPod around high-crime areas, nor do I walk through gang-infested or minority ghettos acting like nothing is out of place

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 07:17 AM
You're a sexist, not everyone with a penis is in the mood to rape you... No one asked you to prom, and that is my first tier of evidence.

tbh, I was too busy dropping out of school because of family rape issues to go to the prom. ^_^

btw, I was joking bout the racism.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:00 AM
tbh, I was too busy dropping out of school because of family rape issues to go to the prom. ^_^

btw, I was joking bout the racism.

Obv. my prom comment was a siiiiiick burn.

But, I like to show the second side of the coin... This thread does nothing but demonize men as rapists and violent offenders and women are always portrayed as victims but let's just roll the footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE-m_m7dPlo&feature=related
four girls attack a pregnant woman, a guy tries to break it up, they keep swinging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqZol-UpGc&feature=related
Bitches vandalizing a Denny's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPasiZ7Vu8I
Normal day in the projects

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLoLbpXJC7I&feature=related
Woman causing like $20,000 in property damage over a break-up


In MY opinion, women are nothing but destructive, manipulative, bitches who are totally asking for it if you've seen the videos above. The fact if you break up with some of them and they rampage through your property, and jump people on buses over trivial shit like an MP3 player they're no worse than the rapists you demonize

Harrison
03-13-2011, 08:12 AM
Lol this whole thread is TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLed

Rogean
03-13-2011, 08:12 AM
[8:01AM] Abacab:<abacab> That rape thread in off topic, bout to hit R&F soon</abacab>

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:19 AM
[8:01AM] Abacab:<abacab> That rape thread in off topic, bout to hit R&F soon</abacab>

Called it!

Harrison
03-13-2011, 08:21 AM
Rogean, seriously, I owe you sooooooooooooooo many beers.

We should meet up in neutral territory. (Taunton perhaps?)

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 08:22 AM
Obv. my prom comment was a siiiiiick burn.

But, I like to show the second side of the coin... This thread does nothing but demonize men as rapists and violent offenders and women are always portrayed as victims but let's just roll the footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE-m_m7dPlo&feature=related
four girls attack a pregnant woman, a guy tries to break it up, they keep swinging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqZol-UpGc&feature=related
Bitches vandalizing a Denny's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPasiZ7Vu8I
Normal day in the projects

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLoLbpXJC7I&feature=related
Woman causing like $20,000 in property damage over a break-up


In MY opinion, women are nothing but destructive, manipulative, bitches who are totally asking for it if you've seen the videos above. The fact if you break up with some of them and they rampage through your property, and jump people on buses over trivial shit like an MP3 player they're no worse than the rapists you demonize

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k
Male monkey raping a toad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7NTYeRg5Dg
Male monkey trying to rape a goat

could you link me youtubes of crazy female animals destroying ex-bfs' properties just as easily? 8]

/shrug. the dangers of being a woman amongst men is a worldwide issue, and ghettos are only in certain backwards countries. You can def point out some crazy bitches- but I think Shayla's point was that women worldwide generally feel this perpetual alertness/uncertainty 90% of the time, every place we go, because most men are naturally perves and it's not always easy to tell apart appreciative glances from sex-starved ganders by potential rapists. watev, I don't care if some guys dunno what it's like to feel victimized in a certain way. a zillion people have no idea what it's like to be a lot of things. I'll never know what it's like to be inside a warm, wet ..keg of fish wine. how's being a hipster feel?

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:47 AM
women worldwide generally feel this perpetual alertness/uncertainty 90% of the time, every place we go, because most men are naturally perves and it's not always easy to tell apart appreciative glances from sex-starved ganders by potential rapists.

That's a legit concern... If the places in question fall in the line of daycares, post-offices, and church bake sales. If I was a woman I too would be put off by unwarranted sexual advances in the general public.

However, all of this is thrown out the window including your alertness and uncertainty when you go to let's say a club? Cause anytime I've been to a bomb ass dive I'm not the one grinding my junk up on several strangers.

The real complaint here is "I'm a woman, I don't want to be objectified as some sex object" but women on the regular place their vagina on a pedestal and throw their gender out in the open far more than men do, in a sense you objectify yourselves and become quite shocked when *gasp* men look at you sexually.

The following women are empowered and don't want to be objectified:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D0KyEFvQxaY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_2uGLVoPRpE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/o9Epbo9sw6g?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Now I'll stop objectifying when women start doing the waltz over shaking their ass, getting breast implants for the sole purpose of vanity, and not roll into the clubs in packs and fingerbanging each other to bad house music so the frat guys will say "ayyooooo!"

vitalious
03-13-2011, 08:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k
Male monkey raping a toad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7NTYeRg5Dg
Male monkey trying to rape a goat

could you link me youtubes of crazy female animals destroying ex-bfs' properties just as easily? 8]

/shrug. the dangers of being a woman amongst men is a worldwide issue, and ghettos are only in certain backwards countries. You can def point out some crazy bitches- but I think Shayla's point was that women worldwide generally feel this perpetual alertness/uncertainty 90% of the time, every place we go, because most men are naturally perves and it's not always easy to tell apart appreciative glances from sex-starved ganders by potential rapists. watev, I don't care if some guys dunno what it's like to feel victimized in a certain way. a zillion people have no idea what it's like to be a lot of things. I'll never know what it's like to be inside a warm, wet ..keg of fish wine. how's being a hipster feel?

Backwards countries like the US?

Leokaiser
03-13-2011, 09:12 AM
Holy shit, I almost agreed with a post by Abacab.

Rape is a terrible thing and there is no excusing it - especially when said excuse hinges on what the victim was wearing - but it's hardly so common place that one should need to worry about it happening 'at any time'.

Yes, as a male, I don't have to constantly watch out for the dangers of predatory males (though it should be pointed out that cases of male rape do occur), but unsure as to why the same cannot be said of men worrying about other serious violent crimes. I could be set upon by one of the knife-wielding gangs of 15 year-olds that prowl the streets where I live, and I don't think it's too unfair to draw a comparison between being raped and being repeatedly stabbed or kicked to death. Each has their own drawbacks.

The statement of 'fact' that rape can occur 'at any time' is a bit iffy also. I hate to be one of her male friends spending time with her while she constantly watches my every move lest the reprehensible nature of my gender springs to the fore and I pounce on her in the middle of Taco Bell. Douchebags the majority may be, but few men are actual sex offenders.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 09:22 AM
Holy shit, I almost agreed with a post by Abacab.

Rape is a terrible thing and there is no excusing it - especially when said excuse hinges on what the victim was wearing - but it's hardly so common place that one should need to worry about it happening 'at any time'.

Yes, as a male, I don't have to constantly watch out for the dangers of predatory males (though it should be pointed out that cases of male rape do occur), but unsure as to why the same cannot be said of men worrying about other serious violent crimes. I could be set upon by one of the knife-wielding gangs of 15 year-olds that prowl the streets where I live, and I don't think it's too unfair to draw a comparison between being raped and being repeatedly stabbed or kicked to death. Each has their own drawbacks.

The statement of 'fact' that rape can occur 'at any time' is a bit iffy also. I hate to be one of her male friends spending time with her while she constantly watches my every move lest the reprehensible nature of my gender springs to the fore and I pounce on her in the middle of Taco Bell. Douchebags the majority may be, but few men are actual sex offenders.

Agree.

Most rape is actually date rape, as in you know the person somewhat and the person takes advantage of you wile you are drunk/high/vulnerable, and as such is the most prevalent and non-discussed form of rape in the United States. I however don't agree with the "always gotta watch my back for rapists" argument that has been presented because as it could happen it's more likely to occur in places where there is more civil unrest (Africa, South America, parts of Asia) because forcible and malicious forms of rape tend to be the by product of wartime and lawlessness.

So to recap...

Passing out drunk and getting fucked by some dude at a party is what most likely occurs in the U.S

Roving gangs of gun wielding rapist tends to isolate around third-world nations (Somalia, Dafur, Nicaragua, Eastern Europe etc.)

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 09:30 AM
abacab, you're sounding like lydia lunch. Not all women are whores, and not all men are rapists 8] I don't go clubbing because it's shallow/stupid/boorish/musically appauling etcetc. I guess everyone just wants to be desired, and if everyone's ass shaking, a woman asking for a waltz isn't going to have a hope in hell of tearing a man's gaze from the ass grinding his junk.
Tbh, I think it's more likely that women are this way as a result of man's objectification. Don't most men think about sex most of the time? I see men checking out women everysinglefuckingmomentoftheday, especially when the woman is oblivious to it. Most women feel an innate pressure to compete to feel secure, probs because most males are just hypersexual and always drawn in by the allure of something new, amirite?

Harrison
03-13-2011, 09:38 AM
abacab, you're sounding like lydia lunch. Not all women are whores,

Lying slut for money!

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 09:45 AM
abacab, you're sounding like lydia lunch. Not all women are whores, and not all men are rapists 8] I don't go clubbing because it's shallow/stupid/boorish/musically appauling etcetc. I guess everyone just wants to be desired, and if everyone's ass shaking, a woman asking for a waltz isn't going to have a hope in hell of tearing a man's gaze from the ass grinding his junk.
Tbh, I think it's more likely that women are this way as a result of man's objectification. Don't most men think about sex most of the time? I see men checking out women everysinglefuckingmomentoftheday, especially when the woman is oblivious to it. Most women feel an innate pressure to compete to feel secure, probs because most males are just hypersexual and always drawn in by the allure of something new, amirite?

You're saying women don't check men or other women out? You're also saying that men are "hypersexual" meaning men are abnormal while the female sex-drive is more in-line with moderation?

Did you know the highest infidelity rates come from women? Did you know most sex shops cater to women over men? Did you know statistically speaking women and men aren't that far apart on sexual frequency?

Most men don't think about sex all the time, if the opportunity arises yeah men will try to get their nut off but it's hardly the all-consuming thought that you are portraying it as. In fact men are mostly selfish with sex, they'll bust a nut and roll over to play video games, women on the other hand want longer build-up and prefer something a bit more enduring than a "minute-quit it" so in my opinion women are far more sexually active when they are in the mood for it.

It's not mens fault for the objectification of women, that has been brought on for the gender through a long history of using sex to sell. Every major historical figure that was female (Cleopatra, Queen Victoria, Catherine the Great) used sex or the ability to procure children as a staple in manipulating men into war and positioning themselves for comfort, luxury and power... and while me would take women as "spoils" in those olden days men didn't use their dicks to conquer the world, they used ultra-violence same cannot be said about women.

Also, women only feel the need and pressure to compete because they are shallow in those instances. If you got to grind your ass on my dick, or essentially give up the pussy on the first date to leave an impression that you're a competitor in the game of relationships and security, then like I said you are shallow and lack any interesting qualities about yourself, thus trying to sleep and breed your way into comfort and security.

Leokaiser
03-13-2011, 09:47 AM
In regards to objectification, men like seeing women looking sexually attractive, ergo, women dress and behave in a 'provocative' manner to increase their chances in mate selection. This is a mutually beneficial arrangement; men get eye candy, women get more potential partners. Potential is the key word there though - just because a woman looks hot, doesn't mean she wants fucked by all and sundry.

In a civilized society, if a man can't control his urges due to what a woman is wearing, it's not the woman who has the problem.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 09:57 AM
In regards to objectification, men like seeing women looking sexually attractive, ergo, women dress and behave in a 'provocative' manner to increase their chances in mate selection. This is a mutually beneficial arrangement; men get eye candy, women get more potential partners. Potential is the key word there though - just because a woman looks hot, doesn't mean she wants fucked by all and sundry.

In a civilized society, if a man can't control his urges due to what a woman is wearing, it's not the woman who has the problem.

The golden rule: No fatties

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 09:57 AM
You're saying women don't check men or other women out? You're also saying that men are "hypersexual" meaning men are abnormal while the female sex-drive is more in-line with moderation?

Did you know the highest infidelity rates come from women? Did you know most sex shops cater to women over men? Did you know statistically speaking women and men aren't that far apart on sexual frequency?

Most men don't think about sex all the time, if the opportunity arises yeah men will try to get their nut off but it's hardly the all-consuming thought that you are portraying it as. In fact men are mostly selfish with sex, they'll bust a nut and roll over to play video games, women on the other hand want longer build-up and prefer something a bit more enduring than a "minute-quit it" so in my opinion women are far more sexually active when they are in the mood for it.

It's not mens fault for the objectification of women, that has been brought on for the gender through a long history of using sex to sell. Every major historical figure that was female (Cleopatra, Queen Victoria, Catherine the Great) used sex or the ability to procure children as a staple in manipulating men into war and positioning themselves for comfort, luxury and power... and while me would take women as "spoils" in those olden days men didn't use their dicks to conquer the world, they used ultra-violence same cannot be said about women.

Also, women only feel the need and pressure to compete because they are shallow in those instances. If you got to grind your ass on my dick, or essentially give up the pussy on the first date to leave an impression that you're a competitor in the game of relationships and security, then like I said you are shallow and lack any interesting qualities about yourself, thus trying to sleep and breed your way into comfort and security.

lmfao. It seems you know more about sex shops than me. And are you srsly trying to tell me that the whole reason the internet was made- porn- is annnnywhere near as catered to women as it is to men? Nope, 90% of it is tits and vaginas all round. I don't mean women are more in-line with moderation, only that men seem to be hyper in comparison to us. generalizations abound.

"It's not mens fault for the objectification of women, that has been brought on for the gender through a long history of using sex to sell."

Supply and demand, my dear abacab. You can't say the reason there's a market is because there was once a market. lmao.
I absolutely agree with your last sentence though.

Lagaidh
03-13-2011, 10:43 AM
I had a childhood chocked full of every kind of abuse you can think of except sexual... I think this woman is full of herself and nothing else.

You can keep being mad about the past or afraid of the future, but all that does is paralyze. Been there, done that... but I grew up. Late. But I did grow up. What I see in those videos is an angry person yet to fully grow up.

/pity

Bodeanicus
03-13-2011, 10:59 AM
Rogean, seriously, I owe you sooooooooooooooo many beers.

We should meet up in neutral territory. (Taunton perhaps?)

Your mangina getting all misty?

Harrison
03-13-2011, 11:05 AM
Get over it. You're not getting any, from me, or anyone for that matter.

Alawen Everywhere
03-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Wow. I am seriously amazed by this thread.

The level of blame the victim here is incredible. I can't tell if Abacab and Harrison are intentionally trolling or think they're making some hilarious joke out of rape. Abacab has thrown out a bunch of bullshit "facts" backed up by no evidence except his own imagination.

News flash, boys: it doesn't matter if you think you're being funny. Stating shit like this makes you a misogynist. Get some professional counseling and work out your issues with mommy.

An 11-year-old girl was recently gang-raped by 18 men between 15 and 25 in a small town in Texas. Some reactions from the community were that the commotion was tearing the town apart and that those poor boys will have to live with this all of their lives. The girl? Apparently she dressed too provocatively and frequented the wrong part of town and so she was asking for it.

Wake up. The basic function of society is to protect women and children. We can do a much better job of that and we should.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 11:30 AM
Wow. I am seriously amazed by this thread.

The level of blame the victim here is incredible. I can't tell if Abacab and Harrison are intentionally trolling or think they're making some hilarious joke out of rape. Abacab has thrown out a bunch of bullshit "facts" backed up by no evidence except his own imagination.

News flash, boys: it doesn't matter if you think you're being funny. Stating shit like this makes you a misogynist. Get some professional counseling and work out your issues with mommy.

An 11-year-old girl was recently gang-raped by 18 men between 15 and 25 in a small town in Texas. Some reactions from the community were that the commotion was tearing the town apart and that those poor boys will have to live with this all of their lives. The girl? Apparently she dressed too provocatively and frequented the wrong part of town and so she was asking for it.

Wake up. The basic function of society is to protect women and children. We can do a much better job of that and we should.

This thread stopped being about rape on page 3...

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 11:34 AM
All of my responses have been aimed at objectifying to counter the resonating opinion that "there are rapists surrounding us" which I've been stating that this thread isn't so much about rape the act, but rape in theory which several female members of the board are blaming on men being "hypersexual" and prone to the act.

Which is absolute horseshit and me pointing out that women are no less sexualized than men as evident by the several dozen videos I posted of drunk college sluts pounding the goose and frantically groping at each other

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 11:42 AM
The basic function of society is to protect women and children.

No one that studies society seriously on a philosophical level will agree with you on that claim. You're deluded to think entire civilizations exist on the basic notion of "women and children first" when societies exist on for a cultural normative...

You know common interests, behaviors, views, and morals.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 12:47 PM
don't even wanna read my own thread now

Harrison
03-13-2011, 12:51 PM
I like how suddenly not taking something on the internet seriously has turned into: "they're making some hilarious joke out of rape."

Because the actual subject of rape, is so fucking funny...oh wait.

Lighten the fuck up.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 12:51 PM
All of my responses have been aimed at objectifying to counter the resonating opinion that "there are rapists surrounding us" which I've been stating that this thread isn't so much about rape the act, but rape in theory which several female members of the board are blaming on men being "hypersexual" and prone to the act.

Which is absolute horseshit and me pointing out that women are no less sexualized than men as evident by the several dozen videos I posted of drunk college sluts pounding the goose and frantically groping at each other

Abacab, you know ily but wtf. Men who rape are not "hypersexual" they are power hungry as fuck. They want to know they have control over another person. I never said "there are rapists surrounding us" but you may have missed where I said there are two sex offenders miles from my house and no, I don't live in a "bad area" or the ghetto or whatever the fuck you wanna call it. It's not about who's more sexualized at all, it's about the fact that a man can overpower a woman and it's fucking scary when you're walking to your car from Walmart at 11:30 at night. This isn't a sexist or feminist topic, stop turning it into one.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 12:56 PM
Not to mention, I would never use "hypersexualized" as an insult. Tralina knows what I mean. Gifs anyone?

Alawen Everywhere
03-13-2011, 02:56 PM
I like how suddenly not taking something on the internet seriously has turned into: "they're making some hilarious joke out of rape."

Because the actual subject of rape, is so fucking funny...oh wait.

Lighten the fuck up.

Yes, levity is the appropriate response when a woman expresses her fears about rape and misogynists accuse her of having psychological problems.

When my sister lived with me in San Francisco, we had an open agreement: she could call me any time to come and make sure she got home safely. She dumped one of her boyfriends because he lived near the 16th & Mission BART station and thought it was cool for her to walk through the Mission at night alone. If you think this is over-protective, you're either naive or stupid. Women who aren't both careful and lucky are frequently referred to as victims.

Harrison
03-13-2011, 03:02 PM
I didn't even read the whole thread. You are still taking this way too far, for no reason.

You don't have to explain to me the dangers of the "real world" even me being a fairly large man, and fully capable of handling myself. I've woken up in an ambulance because of such bullshit randomized violence in the city.

Like I said, lighten the fuck up man.

Autotune
03-13-2011, 03:19 PM
Bears and Pumas in the woods > weird guys in alleys.


want to be afraid of something, pick sharks or dinosaurs.

a 90lb chick can protect herself if she just takes the time to learn how.


is it really a surprise that there are people in the world that wish to harm others? If chicks worried less about their hair/cloths/make-up/celebs/cars/bling/jerseyshore and more about how to protect themselves, maybe they wouldn't get raped as often.

idk, I'm not agreeing with the raping bastards, but i have no sympathy for chicks that don't realize they are easy targets. Just like i have no sympathy for anyone that dresses up in a bloody chum suit and jumps into a pool of sharks that haven't had anything to eat in 3months.

mimixownzall
03-13-2011, 03:45 PM
I didn't even read the whole thread. You are still taking this way too far, for no reason.

You don't have to explain to me the dangers of the "real world" even me being a fairly large man, and fully capable of handling myself. I've woken up in an ambulance because of such bullshit randomized violence in the city.

Like I said, lighten the fuck up man.

http://www.steveweisslive.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/a-InternetToughGuy1.jpg

Inb4 ramblings about people being obsessed to boost own ego.

Bubbles
03-13-2011, 03:58 PM
don't even wanna read my own thread now

the possibility of any further insighful commentary became nil the second it got sent into RnF.

I do appreciate the original conversation, though. I'd say the majority of this board has spent little to no time thinking about the issue from a women's perspective. :)

Harrison
03-13-2011, 04:36 PM
Yeah, because admitting to having been stomped to near-death is clearly being "tough." Moron.

I swear to shit there isn't a single thing you're good at. Even reposting ancient image macros is a fucking feat of mediocrity for you lol

SlankyLanky
03-13-2011, 04:42 PM
eerbodys just waiting to be raped.

Harrison
03-13-2011, 04:59 PM
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4846087/noob-tubes-i-hear-pussies-use-them.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Clint-Eastwood

LOLOL I POSTED A IMAGE LWL

Daldolma
03-13-2011, 06:42 PM
This isn't the fucking Middle Ages. If you're scared to walk to your car from Wal-Mart at 11:30PM, there are two courses of action:

1) Stop going to Wal-Mart at 11:00PM.

2) Buy a gun.

A gun costs $200. Learning how to use it takes 2 weeks and another $100. For $300, you never have to feel vulnerable again.

More importantly, if you're truly terrified of being raped, spend more time researching the incidence of rape. The vast majority of rapes are not performed by some hulking man that sneaks up on you at the gas station and throws you in his trunk. The vast majority of rapes are perpetrated by people the victim knows, or people the victim has willingly put himself or herself into contact with. In other words, a guy that starts talking to you at a bar and slips something into your drink. A guy you go on a date with that decides you aren't allowed to swat his hand away when he's pulling your skirt off. A gardener, electrician, or basically anyone you allow into your home. A huge percentage of rapes are also targeted specifically at children and inmates, so assuming you're not in grade school or prison, and you're not an altar boy, you should be in the clear from that angle.

Basically, as long as you keep an eye on your drinks and avoid being anywhere alone with a man you don't trust, you don't really have to worry about being raped anymore than you have to worry about being mugged or hit by a car. Walking through a bad neighborhood late at night is always going to be dangerous, and not simply because of rapists. A woman might get raped; a man might get beaten into a coma for his wallet, or because some retarded gang-banger wants to prove a point. You're not experiencing some gender-specific terror if you have to gas your car up at midnight. Men don't like it, either.

Are men more naturally equipped to handle ourselves? Yes, but again, it's not the fucking Middle Ages. That is completely changeable. Rapists aren't bulletproof.

tl;dr -- Buy a gun, don't put yourself in stupid situations, and you'll be fine.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 07:26 PM
You kind of took what I said to mean something different. I'm not looking for pity for being a girl. The original intent was just to show a side of things you may not think about. But it got turned into a retarded shitting contest with some feminism/misogyny thrown in.

Trust me, I realize that it is more likely to happen with an acquaintance or someone you think you know. I know people it's happened to. Letting the plumber in the house scares me just as much.

I didn't say it was a gender-specific terror. Clearly you missed the whole fucking point. Hell, men have a gender-specific terror too, they can have rape called on them at any point and the girl will probably get him sent to jail for years. The point was - we can't stop living our lives, but we do have to live with the fact that we can become victims in a way that men (generally) cannot and will never understand. It's not about the fact that I am too lazy to pump my gas by myself when I'm tired at night. It's the fact that if I didn't realize my gas was running low when I'm omw to work and I don't have time, I have no choice but to do it after work or risk running out on my way home. "Don't put yourself in stupid situations" - clearly it was stated we avoid those situations for THAT reason, because they are stupid and can put you into harms way. My solution was to get my bf to come with me, make plans to go to the store the next day, not take night classes, etc. I'm not going to stop doing what I need to do because I'm afraid. I'm not going to give up what independence I do have because I'm scared of getting mugged or murdered or raped. But that doesn't mean it doesn't cross my mind.

But you kind of made the point I was getting at. No measure that I take - gun, pepper spray, kneeing a guy in his balls - will make the playing field even. A man will almost always be able to overpower a woman. Damn right I'll do some decent damage and put up a fight, but in the end I'll probably end up dead. Rape is different from being mugged. You are powerless, weak, nothing, compared to the attacker. That is what they go for: making you feel powerless makes them feel more powerful. I don't get how you can't see the difference. Not to mention if the guy lets you LIVE, what you have to deal with for the rest of your life and go through to overcome it.

tl;dr version: you will never get it.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Something my sociology professor brought up one day:

Rapists rape to feel like they have power over another person. She asked "What would you do if you got raped?" Many replies included fight, kick, go for the eyes, etc. My professor said this: "I would give in. I wouldn't fight, I would offer to buy a hotel and whatever else. Because the rapist doesn't want someone who just gives up." Fucked up but kind of interesting/true.

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 07:30 PM
Which is absolute horseshit and me pointing out that women are no less sexualized than men as evident by the several dozen videos I posted of drunk college sluts pounding the goose and frantically groping at each other

When anyone thinks of rape, are females who rape men ever the first thought that come to mind? nope.

mimixownzall
03-13-2011, 07:32 PM
This isn't the fucking Middle Ages. If you're scared to walk to your car from Wal-Mart at 11:30PM, there are two courses of action:

1) Stop going to Wal-Mart at 11:00PM.

2) Buy a gun.

A gun costs $200. Learning how to use it takes 2 weeks and another $100. For $300, you never have to feel vulnerable again.

More importantly, if you're truly terrified of being raped, spend more time researching the incidence of rape. The vast majority of rapes are not performed by some hulking man that sneaks up on you at the gas station and throws you in his trunk. The vast majority of rapes are perpetrated by people the victim knows, or people the victim has willingly put himself or herself into contact with. In other words, a guy that starts talking to you at a bar and slips something into your drink. A guy you go on a date with that decides you aren't allowed to swat his hand away when he's pulling your skirt off. A gardener, electrician, or basically anyone you allow into your home. A huge percentage of rapes are also targeted specifically at children and inmates, so assuming you're not in grade school or prison, and you're not an altar boy, you should be in the clear from that angle.

Basically, as long as you keep an eye on your drinks and avoid being anywhere alone with a man you don't trust, you don't really have to worry about being raped anymore than you have to worry about being mugged or hit by a car. Walking through a bad neighborhood late at night is always going to be dangerous, and not simply because of rapists. A woman might get raped; a man might get beaten into a coma for his wallet, or because some retarded gang-banger wants to prove a point. You're not experiencing some gender-specific terror if you have to gas your car up at midnight. Men don't like it, either.

Are men more naturally equipped to handle ourselves? Yes, but again, it's not the fucking Middle Ages. That is completely changeable. Rapists aren't bulletproof.

tl;dr -- Buy a gun, don't put yourself in stupid situations, and you'll be fine.


Unfortunately, it isn't that easy. Even in America not everyone can legally run around carrying loaded weapons without spending some time and money to legally carry one.

Law makers continually take steps that restrict law abiding citizens' ability to protect themselves.

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 07:36 PM
When anyone thinks of rape, are females who rape men ever the first thought that come to mind? nope.

Because it is far less common but it can happen. I read something that went like this - a group of people went out and got drunk, this guy's friend had brought some pregnant girl along but ended up getting smashed and left her with him. The guy was super drunk as well and couldn't drive her home so they agreed to get a hotel with separate beds, he had no intention of sleeping with her. He woke up in the middle of the night with her on top of him (himself erect) and she said that she would claim he raped her if he said anything. He didn't want to have that happen and he didn't want to throw her off because it would hurt her baby. so he was pretty much..fucked. Pardon the pun, cause it's not funny.

deathgirl
03-13-2011, 07:38 PM
the possibility of any further insighful commentary became nil the second it got sent into RnF.

I do appreciate the original conversation, though. I'd say the majority of this board has spent little to no time thinking about the issue from a women's perspective. :)

I had no idea what abacab meant the first time, but now I must know, WHAT IS R&F? :(

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 07:50 PM
A gardener, electrician, or basically anyone you allow into your home. A huge percentage of rapes are also targeted specifically at children and inmates, so assuming you're not in grade school or prison, and you're not an altar boy, you should be in the clear from that angle.

This.

If you think it's scary on the outside, try being a male between the ages of 18-34 in the prison system. You've literally got no chance in escaping a raping and or beat down, you could fight them off but they'll just be back in greater numbers with sharper weapons and in the end you're either getting raped or you're dead.

Being a female you have no idea what it is like to be given the longstick of the law in every case, every court case involving women as the defendant has been light years less severe when it comes to punishment and retribution any civil case involving children or property from alimony might as well not be fought because the ruling will most likely be in favor of the woman.

and until you view through the eyes of men and view the world as "everyone is out to get you, don't be caught slippin'" you wont understand the general panic you'll feel when dealing with authority, when walking alone in bad areas, when meeting people you don't trust...

As a woman you'll never be sent off to foreign lands to be eviscerated in war sports, you'll never be drafted if needed and come back hideously disfigured and maimed or deal with huge cases of PTSD for the rest of your life. So remember it's hard to be a woman while you're home drinking pepsi cola and watching the Oxygen network as millions of men are slaughtered, tortured, and disemboweled daily for nothing other than mere politics.

http://informedvoters.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/iraq-war.jpg

Rilkean
03-13-2011, 08:02 PM
Yes, levity is the appropriate response when a woman expresses her fears about rape and misogynists accuse her of having psychological problems.

When my sister lived with me in San Francisco, we had an open agreement: she could call me any time to come and make sure she got home safely. She dumped one of her boyfriends because he lived near the 16th & Mission BART station and thought it was cool for her to walk through the Mission at night alone. If you think this is over-protective, you're either naive or stupid. Women who aren't both careful and lucky are frequently referred to as victims.

Damn you are smart and it's hot and you understand women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hothothothothohthoththot

Mission scares me at night even if I'm with a male, specifically of the pussy/nerd category...

Seriously though damn... well spoken.

Also Abacab isn't a hipster. He's just a fucking gross anorexic uggo. C'mon.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:02 PM
she said that she would claim he raped her if he said anything.

This also.

Do you know how many false rape reports are made each year? Do you know how many women completely fuck over men simply because they were embarrassed about a sexual encounter or were completely scorned by a man and thus seek revenge?

Rilkean
03-13-2011, 08:05 PM
^^Not the majority you dumbfuck.

pps CCW's are extremely hard to obtain in CA. :)

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 08:11 PM
Abacab, this is not a "who has the bigger plight" argument. Men AND women fight for this country and risk their lives. so that if I was raped, I'd not be laughed at for reporting it. The point you're trying to make is that men get punished harder, scrutinized more, etc. I get it. But with that you are forgetting that (whether I want to admit it or not) this country and WORLD is ultimately run by men. Yes it's gotten more balanced out recently but you can't bullshit me with your "facts" about how men get it up the ass in the courtroom and overseas and have it so fucking bad. If you want all the fucking control and responsibility, take all the punishment. It's the same argument for the feminists who want "equal rights" and equal wages and opportunities and all that - which is nice - but also want their boyfriend to pay for their dinner every time. Equal rights means EQUAL - give, take. That goes all around, imo.

Way to get way off topic.

Autotune
03-13-2011, 08:11 PM
This also.

Do you know how many false rape reports are made each year? Do you know how many women completely fuck over men simply because they were embarrassed about a sexual encounter or were completely scorned by a man and thus seek revenge?

Yeah, it's scary as hell fooling around with random chicks from bars now days. You chicks dunno what it's like.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:12 PM
^^Not the majority you dumbfuck.

pps CCW's are extremely hard to obtain in CA. :)

Why are you so defensive?

Either come at me civil, or take your butthurt elsewhere.

The point is as a male I will never make a false rape report (lol) and even if it was real I'd just get laughed out of the police station and by general society, for reference to this look up that female teacher that was sleeping with male students not one person took it seriously and gave the teen high fives for fucks sake, and if the roles were reversed the male teacher would've been demonized and the girl would've filed several suits.

Now, as a male I'll never file false reports... I don't see the same coming from the other gender and even if those said reports are dismissed because of false information, women are still making them over petty drama, men are not.

Rilkean
03-13-2011, 08:14 PM
Why are you so defensive?

Either come at me civil, or take your butthurt elsewhere.

The point is as a male I will never make a false rape report (lol) and even if it was real I'd just get laughed out of the police station and by general society, for reference to this look up that female teacher that was sleeping with male students not one person took it seriously and gave the teen high fives for fucks sake, and if the roles were reversed the male teacher would've been demonized and the girl would've filed several suits.

Now, as a male I'll never file false reports... I don't see the same coming from the other gender and even if those said reports are dismissed because of false information, women are still making them over petty drama, men are not.

Ayo Abacab let's bone so I can call the cops on you and you can be one of those poor male victims

Then you can get boned in prison and QQ and I'll enjoy it :eek:

With that hair you'll definitely be a prized possession...

Rilkean
03-13-2011, 08:17 PM
JK I'd never touch Abacab :D

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 08:17 PM
It sounds like you're grouping all women into a category and saying I'm going to make a false rape report. But that's fucking idiotic so I'll assume that's not what you meant. That's like saying all men are rapists. I'd never do that to a guy if I regretted having sex with him when I was drunk even if I consented. But yes, some girls do this.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-13-2011, 08:23 PM
Abacab, this is not a "who has the bigger plight" argument. Men AND women fight for this country and risk their lives. so that if I was raped, I'd not be laughed at for reporting it. The point you're trying to make is that men get punished harder, scrutinized more, etc. I get it. But with that you are forgetting that (whether I want to admit it or not) this country and WORLD is ultimately run by men. Yes it's gotten more balanced out recently but you can't bullshit me with your "facts" about how men get it up the ass in the courtroom and overseas and have it so fucking bad. If you want all the fucking control and responsibility, take all the punishment. It's the same argument for the feminists who want "equal rights" and equal wages and opportunities and all that - which is nice - but also want their boyfriend to pay for their dinner every time. Equal rights means EQUAL - give, take. That goes all around, imo.

Way to get way off topic.

Feminists only want to be equal on a political and social sphere, as in they only care about pure equality as long as it doesn't become detrimental which is akin to being treated like some angsty teen. You want to do everything and be treated like an adult but you don't want to bare any form of responsibility and when clashing with authority will always choose the path of MOST resistance.

So why do you expect men to take the full burden of responsibility? You can only use the patriarchal society argument so long before it's redundant and it simply becomes the ad nauseam for every plight facing womanhood, but the issue is women take zero responsibility but want full privilege at the cost of everyone else and that diminishes the rights of everyone not specifically just men. There is a reason why there is a long slew of political correctness, harassment clauses, "women only" places, and that's because of the same argument I stated above, you want privilege as opposed to pure equality.

As for the women dying for the country that's just lol, women getting hit by ricochet fire does not constitute fighting for a country, that's just standing around in the wrong place, at the wrong time. The moment I see a youtube of some woman straight up combt knifing several insurgents down in the middle of a conflict I'll be more likely believe it... but I'm fairly certain women in the military are restricted to non-combative support roles.

Daldolma
03-13-2011, 08:25 PM
You kind of took what I said to mean something different. I'm not looking for pity for being a girl. The original intent was just to show a side of things you may not think about. But it got turned into a retarded shitting contest with some feminism/misogyny thrown in.

Trust me, I realize that it is more likely to happen with an acquaintance or someone you think you know. I know people it's happened to. Letting the plumber in the house scares me just as much.

I didn't say it was a gender-specific terror. Clearly you missed the whole fucking point. Hell, men have a gender-specific terror too, they can have rape called on them at any point and the girl will probably get him sent to jail for years. The point was - we can't stop living our lives, but we do have to live with the fact that we can become victims in a way that men (generally) cannot and will never understand. It's not about the fact that I am too lazy to pump my gas by myself when I'm tired at night. It's the fact that if I didn't realize my gas was running low when I'm omw to work and I don't have time, I have no choice but to do it after work or risk running out on my way home. "Don't put yourself in stupid situations" - clearly it was stated we avoid those situations for THAT reason, because they are stupid and can put you into harms way. My solution was to get my bf to come with me, make plans to go to the store the next day, not take night classes, etc. I'm not going to stop doing what I need to do because I'm afraid. I'm not going to give up what independence I do have because I'm scared of getting mugged or murdered or raped. But that doesn't mean it doesn't cross my mind.

But you kind of made the point I was getting at. No measure that I take - gun, pepper spray, kneeing a guy in his balls - will make the playing field even. A man will almost always be able to overpower a woman. Damn right I'll do some decent damage and put up a fight, but in the end I'll probably end up dead. Rape is different from being mugged. You are powerless, weak, nothing, compared to the attacker. That is what they go for: making you feel powerless makes them feel more powerful. I don't get how you can't see the difference. Not to mention if the guy lets you LIVE, what you have to deal with for the rest of your life and go through to overcome it.

tl;dr version: you will never get it.

I really didn't misunderstand your point. I don't think you're pity-mongering, I don't think you're sexist, and I don't think my response had any misogynist underpinnings. I didn't call you lazy or stupid. If anything, I'm trying to show you that a crippling fear of violent, anonymous rape is irrational. It's also untrue to say that men generally can't and don't understand that fear. 10% of reported rape victims are male, and I don't think it'd be irrational to assume that the incidence of reporting is lower for males than females.

44% of rape victims are under 18 years old; 80% are under 30. Two-thirds of rapes are committed by acquaintances. What does all that mean? Basically, that children and adolescents are the group most vulnerable, and that rape is generally not an "anytime, anywhere" type of crime. Whether or not the creepy guy at the gas station at midnight is a rapist, he's almost definitely not going to rape *you* as you pump your gas. You're far more likely to be raped by a guy you kind-of know from class and ask to drive you home from a party. Most rapists aren't 6'3, 240 pound 25-year olds that corner you in an alley. They're the 70-year old neighbor, the 55-year old priest, the geeky 30-year old math teacher, the kid from class, the guy from the club. They're either going to rape you as a child too young to defend yourself, or as a 20-something year old willingly putting yourself alone in a room or car with them. It's just not realistic to fear being shoved into a corner and raped as you go about your daily business.

So, back to my point -- there's no reason for you to sacrifice any of your independence. You don't need to stop going to Wal-Mart or fueling up at night. You don't need your boyfriend to go with you, either. If it's an overwhelming fear, you can carry a gun and eliminate it. But in reality, it's an irrational fear. Assuming you're no longer a child, if you're going to be raped, the overwhelming statistical likelihood is that it's going to be by someone you know. Which means that as long as you make an effort to not be alone with a guy you don't know very well, you don't have to worry about being raped anymore than you have to worry about being hit by a car. Look both ways when you cross the road, don't walk through a bad neighborhood at night, and don't worry.

By the way, I'm serious about the gun thing. A lot of women would be a lot better off if they owned one.

kinuven
03-13-2011, 08:36 PM
http://www.e90post.com/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 08:48 PM
Abacab=troll <3

Daldoma: I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I guess I did put emphasis on the stranger danger when it is more likely to be raped by someone you see somewhat often. I realize that. And I know it's unlikely, but it's not impossible.

On my college campus a girl was walking back from taking an exam from a building I went to every single day. It was about 10 at night. A man tried to attack her and she screamed for help. Luckily someone heard her and the man ran off but I could have easily been that girl. I had an exam the day before at 8pm in a building right next door to where it happened.

No, it's not a constant fear of mine. But like you said, I don't usually put myself in situations that I need to be afraid of. That doesn't mean it never crosses my mind. So I have to disagree with you in that you can understand that fear. Men generally don't fear being raped. It is impossible for you to understand the fear of having a man overpower in such a way. It's not that you don't try to understand or you don't care or you don't have the empathy or capability. You just can't understand. That was what I was getting at.

I just liked the message in the video :(

xshayla701
03-13-2011, 08:49 PM
Daldoma: I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
...
So I have to disagree with you

young contradicting lol

Tiggles
03-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Lets talk about the real problem

* Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
* Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
* The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Interracial Crime

* Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
* Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
* Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Gangs

* Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
* Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

* Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
* Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

Not that it answers your question directly it does give an idea of some of the rates.
Source(s):
Arrest data: FBI, Crime in the United States, 2001
(USGPO, 2002), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2002
(USGPO, 2003), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2003
(USGPO, 2004), p. 288

Harrison
03-13-2011, 09:03 PM
I was going to go outside today, but a house might have fell out of the sky on top of me. I stayed inside.

Ihealyou
03-13-2011, 09:34 PM
I heard that if a guy carries around condoms he's a player, but if a girl does it she's a slut. Is this true?

nalkin
03-13-2011, 10:10 PM
I heard that if a guy carries around condoms he's a player, but if a girl does it she's a slut. Is this true?

carrying around a condominium is gross regardless of your gender. Its gross for the trivial reason, which is, its slimy and slippery. Not only that, its gross on the mental level as well. In my practice not being prepared means you must go out and get prepared before the act which gives you time to think it over. By then you realize a car trip is not worth the 30 seconds of pleasure.

yaaaflow
03-13-2011, 10:24 PM
lol Tiggles where'd you dig up those stats, stormfront.org?

Slathar
03-13-2011, 10:50 PM
itt: upper-middle class white girl has intro to sociology class about rape, posts on internet about it

Tiggles
03-13-2011, 11:40 PM
lol Tiggles where'd you dig up those stats, stormfront.org?

My sources are below



itt: upper-middle class white girl has intro to sociology class about rape, posts on internet about it

I believe shes black actually.

yaaaflow
03-13-2011, 11:46 PM
No those are the sources listed by whatever website you copy pasted from, I`m just wondering what website it is you did the copy pasting from.

Hoggen
03-14-2011, 12:11 AM
No those are the sources listed by whatever website you copy pasted from, I`m just wondering what website it is you did the copy pasting from.

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html

Some bulk statistics. I don't care to wade through them.

xshayla701
03-14-2011, 12:39 AM
itt: upper-middle class white girl has intro to sociology class about rape, posts on internet about it

lol wait who are you again? :rolleyes:

plus tiggles is right

azxten
03-14-2011, 12:46 AM
ITT: Women with rape fantasies talking to men who think that what the women are saying is what they mean.

Here's some truth to go along with the misandry here...

Men not women are the most likely to be raped according to the statistics and that's pretty sad considering men under report rape at much higher rates than women. How is this possible? Prison.

Men not women are the most likely to be abused as children. The most common child abuse is against 2 year old boys by their mothers.

The "patriarchy" so often blamed for the problems of the world is actually a matriarchy. Men are responsible for war and the rape of the planet? What do men fight over? Women. Why do men obsess over the material? That's what the women want.

You want to end all war on the planet overnight? Force women to go fight on the front lines. It's pointless to have a war where you destroy the very resource you're fighting for. Humanity can't stomach seeing their women maimed and killed. However seeing a man with his legs blown off is business as usual. This is the real reason women aren't subject to the draft and aren't allowed to serve in combat roles.

A woman who gets pregnant has total control over either ending the life of that child or letting it be born. Should she choose to end the life, the father has no say, should she choose to have the child, the father has no say and will be financially responsible. Should she choose to have the father and give it up for adoption the father has no say. As a man you can't even get first right of refusal for your own child if the mother wants it to be adopted instead.

What's all this bullshit about men just don't know what it's like to walk down the dark alley? I sure as fuck have had countless experiences dealing with shady characters where I felt I was physically at risk. Sure, I didn't think they wanted to put their dick in me but somehow that outcome is significantly more disturbing than having my throat slit? It's the same mentality. Fearing for your well being.

Now to wrap things up historically it was always the women who did work like pottery, agriculture, etc. The men hunted and the women gathered. Maybe you're familiar with the term materialism. Do you know the root mater is mother? Women have ALWAYS been more materialistic than men as a gender.

The shift from tribal society to nations WAS the change from patriarchy to matriarchy. Suddenly land was "owned" whereas it had never been before. Of course when you own something you have to protect it. Thus the rise of the army and the soldier to enforce your concept of ownership. The first "King" is nothing more than a servant to women and their desires. Meanwhile these days the women blame the King for all their problems, saying it's men who control everything, except they put the King there in the first place.

The industrial revolution marked the complete destruction of male energy in western cultures. Men were tricked into thinking that what made you a man was providing material wealth for women. Men were pulled out of their hunter roles and plopped down on an assembly line so women could have more, better, cheaper stuff.

Then women turned around and said, "OMG MEN HAVE ALL THE JOBS THIS IS SEXIST!" They were too stupid to realize that their women ancestors had nagged men so completely as to force them to abandon their desires and take up materialism instead. Men worked 12+ hours a day to support their wives addiction to automatic dishwashers and vacuums that meant they had even less responsibility than at any time in history.

Now that brings us to the present. Women have entered the workforce along with men. Note that they didn't TRADE positions with men. It's completely unmanly if you want to be a stay at home Dad. That's fine if you're a woman though and it's also fine if you want a career as a woman. Men are supposed to continue to provide material wealth for women but women want to be able to do that as well because they want more stuff.

Their vision was that with both men and women working all the time there would be so much wonderful stuff for them. Meanwhile all that has happened is that everyone gets less stuff because more people are working and thus there is less demand on the labor side.

What is the absolute worst thing you can do as a man in western society other than abusing women? Not work. If you aren't contributing to the accumulation, tracking, sorting, and use of stuff then you are WORTHLESS. Men are judged by the size of their paycheck. The only time this isn't true is women who actually believed in the whole equality thing and didn't realize that women's rights was just a gigantic power grab.

As it stands today women have the right to do anything they want and they won't be looked down on for it. Want to be an artist who never makes a single dollar? Fine. Want to be a powerful business exec? Fine. Want to be a mother? Fine. Anything you can think of is a great life choice for a woman EXCEPT for going and dying in a war.

Now what about men? If you say you're an artist you'll be asked how much money you make. If you say you're a stay at home father you'll get looks of disgust and pity. You have two choices. Work towards material gain or go die in a war to protect material wealth.

Women seek security through the material. They think that if only they had XYZ, enough money in the bank account, a large enough house, whatever.. then FINALLY they could rest and be happy.

Men also fall prey to this exact same way of thinking and why is that? Because they're educated by women. Our schools have something like 80% female teachers. The entire education system from K-College is setup to reward feminine behavior and modality. Show me a man who has graduated from college and I'll show you a feminized man. That's the only way through.

Men find security in the spiritual. In trust with nature and God. That's right, I said it. God. God is practically a bad word these days among the "enlightened" who so casually destroy the planet for everyone else in their endless pursuit of material wealth. Don't worry about all that destruction though if we just KEEP GOING then surely eventually we'll come up with the technology to fix everything will still maintaining our fabulously glutenous lifestyles. The answer is MORE dishwashers, MORE cars, MORE everything.

Oh and don't think you're going to find God in Church. The priests in Church wear fancy robes and dresses. The Pope himself wears a dress and puts on a hat encrusted with jewels. Notice also that our judges wear dresses as well. These feminized men enforcing the rights of women. Hell, ask yourself why we even bother to circumcise children anymore. Originally this was an initiation into manhood. Look at places in Africa where this done around the age of 12. It's SUPPOSED to be painful and scarring. Women didn't like this though and so now we circumcise at birth where no memories of it will occur, where the apparent pain is minimized. It's no longer an initiation just a relic of a past that did have male influence and energy.

All of the "problems with the world today" that are blamed on men are actually caused by women and men. Women because of their insatiable desire for material wealth (and it truly is insatiable) and men because of their failure to keep this desire in check. Such a huge failing that not only did we not keep it in check but we allowed the women to convince us to go along with them.

Men today are either completely without balls and just let women decide everything for them, are obsessed with materialism as much as women (in order to get women), or are cast out by society. It all started in Europe and now the whole world is fucked.

azxten
03-14-2011, 12:59 AM
P.S. Getting back to the rape thing. These women who obsess over rape are really having fantasies about it.

Subconsciously they know they have it all now. Women are in complete control of the planet. Women were never supposed to have complete control though and so deep down they desire to lose control.

Birth control, abortion, and our feminized "justice" system have given women absolute total control over life and death of humanity. They choose when they'll get pregnant, if the baby will be born or killed, and what the father will owe them. Meanwhile the father has the right to sit and watch and pray that the woman they got pregnant doesn't kill their children or ruin their life. No matter what situation you can envision that is the ultimately outcome when a woman gets pregnant. She has total control and the father has zero.

Last time I checked though women weren't popping out babies without men. It's a fantastic feminist meme that "women are the givers of life" and "women create life" but that's exactly the same as saying the soil creates life. The soil is the given of life. No, the seed and the soil together creates life not one alone.

Anyway this is why so many women have rape fantasies these days and why those who obsess endlessly over it are the women in positions of more control. Subconsciously they wish some man WOULD just rape them and get them pregnant totally against their will. They're sick of being in charge all the time.

It's the exact same thing as people who are either dominant or submissive in bed. People who are dominant usually have less control in life and people who are submissive have more control. They like to play the opposite role in their private life, in their secret mind, deepest of desires.

Pico
03-14-2011, 01:02 AM
Lets talk about the real problem

* Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
* When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
* Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
* The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Interracial Crime

* Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
* Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
* Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Gangs

* Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
* Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

* Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
* Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

Not that it answers your question directly it does give an idea of some of the rates.
Source(s):
Arrest data: FBI, Crime in the United States, 2001
(USGPO, 2002), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2002
(USGPO, 2003), p. 252. FBI, Crime in the United States, 2003
(USGPO, 2004), p. 288

i really hope you're implying "the real problem" is that poor black people are trapped in their socioeconomic situation due to appauling social policies and systemic racism.

Pico
03-14-2011, 01:04 AM
P.S. Getting back to the rape thing. These women who obsess over rape are really having fantasies about it.

Subconsciously they know they have it all now. Women are in complete control of the planet. Women were never supposed to have complete control though and so deep down they desire to lose control.

Birth control, abortion, and our feminized "justice" system have given women absolute total control over life and death of humanity. They choose when they'll get pregnant, if the baby will be born or killed, and what the father will owe them. Meanwhile the father has the right to sit and watch and pray that the woman they got pregnant doesn't kill their children or ruin their life. No matter what situation you can envision that is the ultimately outcome when a woman gets pregnant. She has total control and the father has zero.

Last time I checked though women weren't popping out babies without men. It's a fantastic feminist meme that "women are the givers of life" and "women create life" but that's exactly the same as saying the soil creates life. The soil is the given of life. No, the seed and the soil together creates life not one alone.

Anyway this is why so many women have rape fantasies these days and why those who obsess endlessly over it are the women in positions of more control. Subconsciously they wish some man WOULD just rape them and get them pregnant totally against their will. They're sick of being in charge all the time.

It's the exact same thing as people who are either dominant or submissive in bed. People who are dominant usually have less control in life and people who are submissive have more control. They like to play the opposite role in their private life, in their secret mind, deepest of desires.

virgin spotted

azxten
03-14-2011, 01:06 AM
virgin spotted

Who? You? I lost my virginity about 10 years ago to one of the women posting in this thread.

Autotune
03-14-2011, 01:22 AM
Who? You? I lost my virginity about 10 years ago to one of the women posting in this thread.

Abacab is a woman?

azxten
03-14-2011, 01:29 AM
Abacab is a woman?

Fuck.. Sorry Abacab, now your PMs are probably blowing up.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-14-2011, 01:42 AM
Fuck.. Sorry Abacab, now your PMs are probably blowing up.

It's okay! I mean I didn't get the AIDS so it's no biggie

Slathar
03-14-2011, 01:45 AM
lol wait who are you again? :rolleyes:

plus tiggles is right

your victim-complex is amusing. enjoy your liberal arts education.

xshayla701
03-14-2011, 02:22 AM
your victim-complex is amusing. enjoy your liberal arts education.

Clearly you didn't read anything I said so I won't bother. however I don't go to a liberal arts school. goodnight!

Autotune
03-14-2011, 02:51 AM
Convenient of you to ignore my response.

the best response, is often, no response at all.

Toehammer
03-14-2011, 02:59 AM
I will post a classic video to summarize this thread with selected comments below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqg_ceFM30I

original poster shayla: According to my dear friend Alexis, "[us men] that are living to ejaculate are all in a "predator mode.""

~page 3 sexual assault discussion ends

abacab: Women are obsessed with "jack rabbits, you know, jumpin hear to there..."

azxten: Women are "hooked on the penis power and this man won't even buy you some shrimp from long john silver's and what that plate, $2.99? But he can give you..."

other useless supporting actors in thread: "jack rabbit?... when i was a little girl being raised in the country..."

ukaking
03-14-2011, 03:14 AM
Just thought I would add to the personal stories about Women having all the power...
Years ago, found out my oldest daughter's mom wasn't being a very good parent. Dirty place, drinking, etc. I called Social Services and got a custody case going. Long story short, on court day, had the social worker from where they lived and the child guardian BOTH tell the judge that the child should go to the father. FEMALE judge says they cannot come to a ruling that day and would send us a letter in seven days with their ruling. Seven days later, mom gets to keep daughter. What a surprise!
BTW for two kids, the state of Virginia makes me pay $1300 a month when I only bring home $2300 a month after taxes. They make it near impossible for the dad to make a decent living or afford a decent place if he pays his child support like he is supposed to. I have had to take up a side job selling sports jerseys to try and make up some ground. Meanwhile my daughter's moms don't work.

ukaking
03-14-2011, 03:14 AM
BTW, I got "fixed" after the second child was born, ROFL.

Slathar
03-14-2011, 03:31 AM
Clearly you didn't read anything I said



100% correct

deathgirl
03-14-2011, 03:37 AM
BTW, I got "fixed" after the second child was born, ROFL.

thank god for that, you clearly had no idea what you were doing :D how many daughters did you have to how many women fit to call social services on?

ukaking
03-14-2011, 03:51 AM
thank god for that, you clearly had no idea what you were doing :D how many daughters did you have to how many women fit to call social services on?
I have two biological children, my daughters. One from a three year relationship and one from a previous marriage. I guess I'm old. Everything worked out for the best, I guess, except I don't have a lot of money to go round, but I get by and my children getting their money each month comes before my mortgage. I don't always make bad decisions as a dad, I turned down a contract with Vince McMahon and the WWE because the road schedule would have made it tough for me to spend time with my girls.
Their future was more important than my dreams would have ever been. Now Im getting too old to be considered a top prospect in the wrestling business, yet I still do not regret any decision I have made. Sorry if me having two kids with two different women four years apart, makes me out to be a bad person.

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-14-2011, 04:49 AM
I don't always make bad decisions as a dad, I turned down a contract with Vince McMahon and the WWE

Holy shit, Chris Benoit that you bro?

But seriously that's like the shit

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-14-2011, 04:59 AM
thank god for that, you clearly had no idea what you were doing :D how many daughters did you have to how many women fit to call social services on?

Don't hate, that is reality in America and situations like that occur everywhere regardless of who you are

ukaking
03-14-2011, 04:59 AM
Holy shit, Chris Benoit that you bro?

But seriously that's like the shit

Aww thats brutal! Poor Chris. You know, many many years before he killed his family and himself, Harley Race told him to stop doing the top rope headbutt because of the whiplash effect on the brain. He didnt listen and when they did the study on his brain, they said it looked worse than an Alzheimer patient. I also recently lost a long time partner to post concussion syndrome. Atleast they are getting better at knowing what to look for.
Wow this thread is getting derailed!
IM AFRAID IM GOING TO GET RAPED BY BIG BLACK GIRLS THAT JUST WANT SOME CREAM IN THEIR COFFEE!!
ok back on track...

Abacab "The REAL truth"
03-14-2011, 05:08 AM
Aww thats brutal! Poor Chris. You know, many many years before he killed his family and himself, Harley Race told him to stop doing the top rope headbutt because of the whiplash effect on the brain. He didnt listen and when they did the study on his brain, they said it looked worse than an Alzheimer patient. I also recently lost a long time partner to post concussion syndrome. Atleast they are getting better at knowing what to look for.
Wow this thread is getting derailed!
IM AFRAID IM GOING TO GET RAPED BY BIG BLACK GIRLS THAT JUST WANT SOME CREAM IN THEIR COFFEE!!
ok back on track...

Submission style fighting always leads to shit like that, I'd try to avoid anything that involves grapples and locks (cause I'm like 5'11 130)... Then again I'm a groin kicking, eye gouging, throat punching, ear ripping, street fighting bad ass!

SUSUGAM
03-14-2011, 05:19 AM
abacab once got into a fistfight with ronald mcdonald. he walked away with red smudges all over his lips and told everyone it was blood.

Sephrana
03-14-2011, 10:02 AM
Men who rape are not "hypersexual" they are power hungry as fuck. They want to know they have control over another person.

tl;dr version: you will never get it.

xshayla701
03-14-2011, 10:05 AM
original poster shayla: According to my dear friend Alexis, "[us men] that are living to ejaculate are all in a "predator mode.""

I never said that :( read the quote above!

Toehammer
03-14-2011, 10:13 AM
I never said that :( read the quote above!

hehe, jokes! watch the video, it rules best 9 min on the internet

Tiggles
03-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Among human races numerous studies have been made of the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fell within the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain.Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd,and others. (23) (27)

In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negro brain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain and nervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrested at an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)

The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer)of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions arefewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)

The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstract conceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured,and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)

Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart inradically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3to 1. (41)

Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds,in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15)(42) (3)

I kept the source markers if anyone needs to see the documentation

Hoggen
03-14-2011, 06:54 PM
Among human races numerous studies have been made of the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fell within the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain.Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd,and others. (23) (27)

In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negro brain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain and nervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrested at an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27)

The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer)of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions arefewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9)

The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstract conceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured,and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22)

Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart inradically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3to 1. (41)

Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds,in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26)

Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15)(42) (3)

I kept the source markers if anyone needs to see the documentation

The black stats... they have what to do with the OP? Maybe this would best make a new thread titled: If you believe in NAACP intelligence tests, your[sic] an idiot?

Shannacore
03-14-2011, 08:51 PM
Not to mention, I would never use "hypersexualized" as an insult. Tralina knows what I mean. Gifs anyone?

Lololol, THISSSSSSSSSSS

nalkin
03-14-2011, 10:48 PM
Not to mention, I would never use "hypersexualized" as an insult. Tralina knows what I mean. Gifs anyone?

No kidding. She was talking about sex in the shower the other day. Has anyone else tried that? Is it just me or would that be a little to hot to work?

xshayla701
03-14-2011, 10:50 PM
I don't think it was you that I was talking to about that so that means someone spilled the beans WHY CAN NO ONE KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT but it works np Nalk

xshayla701
03-14-2011, 10:52 PM
Okay wow.... I just outed myself. wtb edit in rnf..

chtulu
03-14-2011, 10:54 PM
ITT: Women who SHOULD get raped, and women who think people would actually WANT to rape them.

Hobby
03-14-2011, 10:54 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/howling_fury/funny-pictures-bravo-bunny.jpg

Darian
03-16-2011, 08:05 AM
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Almost_raped

jjgerman
03-16-2011, 03:43 PM
didnt read 90% of this, but if u dont want to get raped, gain like 80 lbs, and dont go near a trailer park.


If you are already overweight then just sit back and relax, eq is the anti rape. I have never heard of anyone being raped while playing eq.

Stay safe

nilbog
03-16-2011, 03:47 PM
Bullying people in school leads to people bringing guns and shooting said bullies.

Then most people view the shooter and their hobbies as the problem.

This is my interpretation of what happens.

DetroitVelvetSmooth
03-16-2011, 04:08 PM
Bullying people in school leads to people bringing guns and shooting said bullies.

Then most people view the shooter's hobbies as the problem.

This is my interpretation of what happens.

fixt. did you really mean to say that you cant blame the shooters?

Also this thread is stupid.

nilbog
03-16-2011, 04:35 PM
I posted in the wrong thread.

I'm letting it ride.

Harrison
03-16-2011, 04:40 PM
You may as well move the one you're talking about over to here. It's going to get bad when the crybabies wake up from their afternoon nap.

DetroitVelvetSmooth
03-16-2011, 04:46 PM
I posted in the wrong thread.

I'm letting it ride.

nah, rape is like super-bullying for grownups.

stormlord
03-16-2011, 04:47 PM
I really didn't misunderstand your point. I don't think you're pity-mongering, I don't think you're sexist, and I don't think my response had any misogynist underpinnings. I didn't call you lazy or stupid. If anything, I'm trying to show you that a crippling fear of violent, anonymous rape is irrational. It's also untrue to say that men generally can't and don't understand that fear. 10% of reported rape victims are male, and I don't think it'd be irrational to assume that the incidence of reporting is lower for males than females.

44% of rape victims are under 18 years old; 80% are under 30. Two-thirds of rapes are committed by acquaintances. What does all that mean? Basically, that children and adolescents are the group most vulnerable, and that rape is generally not an "anytime, anywhere" type of crime. Whether or not the creepy guy at the gas station at midnight is a rapist, he's almost definitely not going to rape *you* as you pump your gas. You're far more likely to be raped by a guy you kind-of know from class and ask to drive you home from a party. Most rapists aren't 6'3, 240 pound 25-year olds that corner you in an alley. They're the 70-year old neighbor, the 55-year old priest, the geeky 30-year old math teacher, the kid from class, the guy from the club. They're either going to rape you as a child too young to defend yourself, or as a 20-something year old willingly putting yourself alone in a room or car with them. It's just not realistic to fear being shoved into a corner and raped as you go about your daily business.

So, back to my point -- there's no reason for you to sacrifice any of your independence. You don't need to stop going to Wal-Mart or fueling up at night. You don't need your boyfriend to go with you, either. If it's an overwhelming fear, you can carry a gun and eliminate it. But in reality, it's an irrational fear. Assuming you're no longer a child, if you're going to be raped, the overwhelming statistical likelihood is that it's going to be by someone you know. Which means that as long as you make an effort to not be alone with a guy you don't know very well, you don't have to worry about being raped anymore than you have to worry about being hit by a car. Look both ways when you cross the road, don't walk through a bad neighborhood at night, and don't worry.

By the way, I'm serious about the gun thing. A lot of women would be a lot better off if they owned one.I'm with you. Agree 100%.

I know i don't know what it's like to fear rapists, but I know what it's like being a small guy in this world that's not good with people. Everyone thinks there' something wrong with me. I got teased so much in school there's probably a scar on my brain somewhere. I don't have bad thoughts about others. But I can just imagine walking dwon a city street minding my own business and a wife with 2 children is going to the supermarket and sees me and goes back into her house because she's afraid i'm some kind of rapist. I would just feel sorry for her. Maybe I should wear a star trek or wear a business suit or wear something that shows them I'm not a bad guy.

Koota
03-16-2011, 04:47 PM
You may as well move the one you're talking about over to here. It's going to get bad when the crybabies wake up from their afternoon nap.

Fuck you. My nap was great.

Harrison
03-16-2011, 04:51 PM
Fuck you. My nap was great.

It's funny, as I was posting that...Detroit went and bled his vagina all over the thread lol

WAAAH BULLIES WAAAH

stormlord
03-16-2011, 04:52 PM
I just want to dispel fears because it's unwarranted. You don't know that guy is a bad guy so don't assume it. PUt yourself in my position. If I'm walking down the street or sitting on some steps reading a book or just standing leaning on a wall thinking about something I don't want to go about things thinking that every girl out there KNOWS i'm a pedophile or a soon-to-be-rapist. I don't got a bad bone in my body that would hurt you. I just want you to feel comfortable and be happy and when you're all bottled up inside your home worrying about that guy or that weird person or that rapist I want to scream some sense into you before you're so confused that oblivion swallows you up.

Knowledge is good. It's good to know if there's a sex offender living nextdoor. But there comes a point where you have to open the door and live your life not be afraid. That's why we have cops. It's why we have a standard. We look out for each other.

stormlord
03-16-2011, 04:57 PM
Any star trek uniforms online? If us weirdos can put those on you would know we're the crazy kind of weirdos and not the rapist kind of weirdos.

Might help.

DetroitVelvetSmooth
03-16-2011, 05:09 PM
It's funny, as I was posting that...Detroit went and bled his vagina all over the thread lol

WAAAH BULLIES WAAAH

read the thread, then join the legions of rational adults that hate fuzzy little douchebags in affliction tees. jesus...

Harrison
03-16-2011, 05:11 PM
The only thing I'm seeing in that thread are a bunch of bitter crybabies who got picked on in school and still haven't gotten over it.

Some people in this world aren't thin-skinned, weak-willed, whiny vaginas. No reason to rage at them for something they didn't do to you.

Azazel
03-16-2011, 05:48 PM
The only thing I'm seeing in that thread are a bunch of bitter crybabies who got picked on in school and still haven't gotten over it.

What, like how you still cry about getting bullied out of the manastone camp?

Harrison
03-16-2011, 05:51 PM
We ended up keeping our camp. He failed.

You're a misinformed idiot.

yaaaflow
03-16-2011, 05:58 PM
I did get an evil eye bag and a vial of finawin tears out of the whole ordeal so I dunno if it was a complete failure.

Also I got someone to stalk me around the forums for a couple months, and who can put a price on that?

Alawen Everywhere
03-16-2011, 07:07 PM
Fuck you. My nap was great.

My nap was awesome, too. I slept for about two and a half hours after class. ^5

Slathar
03-16-2011, 08:05 PM
The only thing I'm seeing in that thread are a bunch of bitter crybabies who got picked on in school and still haven't gotten over it.

Some people in this world aren't thin-skinned, weak-willed, whiny vaginas. No reason to rage at them for something they didn't do to you.

what about the time your friend slept with your girlfriend? you blogged about it and then had to go impulse buy some affliction shirts to soak up your diabetic tears.

Harrison
03-16-2011, 08:22 PM
Diabetic now too? Shit, I learn something new every day here!

DetroitVelvetSmooth
03-16-2011, 08:25 PM
Even given ample opportunity to make witty comebacks or jokes, all he can come up with is shit like this. God, make a joke you retard. You suck.

Harrison
03-16-2011, 08:26 PM
Your guys' idea of wit is calling someone fat...

Slathar
03-16-2011, 08:38 PM
Your guys' idea of wit is calling someone fat...

you deny being fat, then?

Harrison
03-16-2011, 08:47 PM
Lol if I am fat then some of you are downright morbidly obese

I doubt there are more than a few people on this entire forum that could keep up with me on one of my runs.

Slathar
03-16-2011, 09:05 PM
Lol if I am fat then some of you are downright morbidly obese

I doubt there are more than a few people on this entire forum that could keep up with me on one of my runs.

you're right, i bet we couldn't save as many wounded soldiers as you on the battlefield either oh wa...

DetroitVelvetSmooth
03-16-2011, 09:20 PM
Banned fag.

Messianic
03-16-2011, 09:45 PM
I totally don't understand the concept of hating people via the internet.

Misto
03-18-2011, 12:18 AM
I totally don't understand the concept of hating people via the internet.

I fucking hate you.

Hoggen
03-18-2011, 10:05 AM
I totally don't understand the concept of hating people via the internet.

Think "road rage," but it takes a little more effort to find someone's home address than to just run the car next to you off the road.

Messianic
03-18-2011, 03:44 PM
Think "road rage," but it takes a little more effort to find someone's home address than to just run the car next to you off the road.

RAWRAWRWR FEEL THE RAGE OF MY FINGERS AS THE THEY CHANNEL MOLTEN POWER THROUGH MY KEYBOARD TO EXPRESS THE HATRED I FEEL FOR YOU


It's just kind of amusing. I can understand hating what someone believes, but I don't think I truly know someone i've never been around outside of the internet...

Humwawa
03-19-2011, 02:46 AM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9mgR0VjTOXA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

First thing I thought of.

Humwawa
03-19-2011, 02:48 AM
Fail link. =/

captainspauldin
03-21-2011, 03:37 AM
i am the great corn holer

lkjmndfgoijh
04-05-2011, 05:17 AM
Fuck.. Sorry Abacab, now your PMs are probably blowing up.

Virgin.

wehrmacht
04-05-2011, 08:38 AM
Original poster lives in the same city as me, Atlanta, which happens to be the absolute worst place you could possibly live besides Detroit if you don't want to get raped.

Maybe I can farm another Rilkean quote from this thread.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7928/rapeyc.jpg

wodiranger
04-05-2011, 09:13 AM
wehr, Get banned for posting shit like this! seriously you dont need to wish this on someone, alot of women have been ------, so dont post your stupid shit here

wehrmacht
04-05-2011, 09:18 AM
wehr, Get banned for posting shit like this! seriously you dont need to wish this on someone, alot of women have been ------, so dont post your stupid shit here

The second I post something that isn't true, you can start complaining.

wehrmacht
04-05-2011, 09:30 AM
Don't join the army either if you don't want to get raped (by other males):

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secret-shame.html