Name Changes

[Llandris]

Recently, the staff went ahead and changed several names of those in violation of the naming policy. I'll go ahead and post the policy here, just to save you time;

4.16 The Project 1999 Naming Policy

Character names in EverQuest should be thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest. These guidelines apply both forenames and surnames, and also to the combination produced by a forename and surname. (For example, the first name Clint and the last name Eastwood are both acceptable names separately, but Clint Eastwood is not.)

The server staff can, in accordance with all described rules and ultimate discretion, provide assistance with surname changes, including names with multiple capital letters and/or a single accent grave (`). Examples of this are Kirn V`Last, Harl McTarnigal, Leeza MacTeagan.

The server staff will be happy to change your surnames on request, however we will not provide forename changes unless the name violates the naming policy.

The following names are considered unacceptable.

- Vile, profane, rude, or racist names including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, and homonyms of these words.
- Combinations of words that produce an offensive result (e.g. Hugeazz, Tug Mcgroin).
- Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin).
- Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).
- Names from popular media. These names can be either fictional (e.g. Rambo, Darthvader) or non-fictional (e.g. Garth Brooks, Pierce Brosnan, George Washington, Michael Jordan).
- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).
- Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn).
- The names of past or current Customer Support Representatives or developers of Project 1999 (e.g. Nilbog, Rogean, Derubael, Sirken).
- Names chosen with the intent or possessed with the effect of harming the reputation of a player or Customer Service Representative.
- Forenames containing titles within them, such as, but not limited to: The, Lord, Lady, Master, King, Knight, Sir, Father (e.g. Sirtallon, Lordeagle, Mothermaggy, Darksister).
- Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair).
- Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer).
- Descriptive compound words (each separate part of the word and the entire word) must otherwise adhere to all other naming rules.
- Fantasy-oriented names which are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Drizzt).
- Names where the combination of the first and last name forms a phrase or violate a previous rule (e.g. Crymea River, Bran Muffin, Story Thyme).
- For all of the above, misspellings and alternative spellings (such as spelling it backwards) of the word or words are also unacceptable.
- For all of the above, any foreign variations are also unacceptable. If a player petitions a name he or she feels is offensive in a foreign language, all rules set forth shall be applied.
- Above all else, you may not choose character or guild name which, in the sole and absolute discretion of the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff, is deemed to be offensive or improper.

If your character name was part of this group, you may petition for a 1 time name change (within an acceptable time frame) so long as it adheres to the naming policy. Do not petition with the expectation of getting your original name back, it was changed for a reason. Thank you for your cooperation.

-P99 Staff

[fastboy21]

ruh roh

[Phenyo]

Lot of upset people today

[fastboy21]

In all seriousness, could we get a list of the old and new names. They did this on live to make sure that folks wouldn't be able to name change their way out of a bad rep.

Plus, it would be fun to read.

[hugoslavia]

Can you please explain how the name Elephant violates the naming policy?

[fastboy21]

Can you please explain how the name Elephant violates the naming policy?

Is your surname, by chance, something naughty? Elephant _______ ?

[hugoslavia]

Is your surname, by chance, something naughty? Elephant _______ ?

No surname at all

[Zemus]

In all seriousness, could we get a list of the old and new names. They did this on live to make sure that folks wouldn't be able to name change their way out of a bad rep.

Plus, it would be fun to read.

[loramin]

Can you please explain how the name Elephant violates the naming policy?

Is your surname, by chance, something naughty? Elephant _______ ?

Even if your last name didn't violate the policy I still think its covered by:

Above all else, you may not choose character or guild name which, in the sole and absolute discretion of the Project 1999 Customer Service Staff, is deemed to be offensive or improper.

I think most would agree with a staff member decision that "Elephant" is an improper name for an adventurer in Norath.

Also you could consider it covered by:

Proper names from EverQuest (e.g. Rathe, Karana). This also includes the first or last name of any significant EverQuest NPC (e.g. Dorn, Trumpy, Karn).

... but that's a bit of a stretch since "elephant" isn't a proper name.

P.S. Cheers to the staff on this. While we all remember that the naming policy wasn't enforced 100% religiously on live, it does seem (to me at least) that it was enforced a lot more than it has been here, so this feels like a welcome correction.

[Watchmyfeet]

The policy says first name changes will be provided if the name violates the policy. I don't see the spot where it says "We will change your name, without warning or chance to address the situation yourself. We will also do it mid group, causing you to zone, get kicked from the group, and lose pet. During a contested spawn also"

[Watchmyfeet]

The people who own the game consider these names acceptable
8. Names containing phrases are acceptable, so long as they do not violate any other section of this policy. Names such as "Wizzybattlecry Notintheface", "Amen Canigetarez", or "Healzu Likeabard" are examples of acceptable names.

[Phenyo]

Even if your last name didn't violate the policy I still think its covered by:



I think most would agree with a staff member decision that "Elephant" is an improper name for an adventurer in Norath.

Also you could consider it covered by:



... but that's a bit of a stretch since "elephant" isn't a proper name.

P.S. Cheers to the staff on this. While we all remember that the naming policy wasn't enforced 100% religiously on live, it does seem (to me at least) that it was enforced a lot more than it has been here, so this feels like a welcome correction.


Loramin is a medicine available in a number of countries worldwide. A list of US medications equivalent to Loramin is available on the Drugs.com website.

- Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

Yikes

[fastboy21]

The people who own the game consider these names acceptable
8. Names containing phrases are acceptable, so long as they do not violate any other section of this policy. Names such as "Wizzybattlecry Notintheface", "Amen Canigetarez", or "Healzu Likeabard" are examples of acceptable names.


That's not saying much though. The people who own the game also think its a good idea to let folks turn their pets into gingerbreadmen and to buy sex change pots.

[fastboy21]

Loramin is a medicine available in a number of countries worldwide. A list of US medications equivalent to Loramin is available on the Drugs.com website.

- Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

Yikes

So this is what it comes to? Turning each other in? Surely we are not animals? What is this? WoW?

[loramin]

So this is what it comes to? Turning each other in? Surely we are not animals? What is this? WoW?

Lol, I dunno I think I'm fair game: if you can't take it don't dish it ;)

But with that said ...


Loramin is a medicine available in a number of countries worldwide. A list of US medications equivalent to Loramin is available on the Drugs.com website.

- Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

Yikes

First off, it's an alias for a single drug, not a "list of medications". Second, "Loramin" was generated by the original EQ in-game random name generator back in 200, long before that pharma company decided that it'd make a nice alias for "Loratadine". Hell, for all I know someone at that company played on Bristlebane and stole the name from me.

Shit's classic.

[Baler]

Recently, the staff went ahead and changed several names of those in violation of the naming policy. I'll go ahead and post the policy here, just to save you time;



If your character name was part of this group, you may petition for a 1 time name change (within an acceptable time frame) so long as it adheres to the naming policy. Do not petition with the expectation of getting your original name back, it was changed for a reason. Thank you for your cooperation.

-P99 Staff
Thank you P99 staff! Tears of joy right now. :)

---
Loramin is a perfectly valid fantasy roleplay name in my opinion.

[hugoslavia]

Even if your last name didn't violate the policy I still think its covered by:



I think most would agree with a staff member decision that "Elephant" is an improper name for an adventurer in Norath.

Also you could consider it covered by:



... but that's a bit of a stretch since "elephant" isn't a proper name.

P.S. Cheers to the staff on this. While we all remember that the naming policy wasn't enforced 100% religiously on live, it does seem (to me at least) that it was enforced a lot more than it has been here, so this feels like a welcome correction.

I completely disagree. It seems like a large ogre character having a name like Elephant (an animal which exists in Norrath) as a name makes sense in an RPG. Especially given that he's a shaman. That is really not much of a stretch at all.

[skarlorn]

Jesus christ God bless the staff just when I think I cant love the project more

Muh immersions are safe

[Ciksharn]

Can't wait to see the flaming that will come. If anyone who had their name changed could please post a before and after for everyone's enjoyment please and thank you.

[skarlorn]

I am Formally petitioning to lead the Immersion Protection Squad, a brigade of veteran players who care about the server and patrol Norrath, reporting ALL names which violate naming convention. Is this recognized by the Staff?

[Mauricio]

Can't wait to see the flaming that will come. If anyone who had their name changed could please post a before and after for everyone's enjoyment please and thank you.

Old
https://i.imgur.com/j0I6hbs.gif

New
https://i.imgur.com/yA8wqwK.png

[putrid_plum]

Good work I say, this is a fantasy world some names are just really dumb and obviously breaking the rules and people just do it anyways. You play here free so just follows the rules. I don't think it's that hard.

[Mauricio]

Good work I say, this is a fantasy world some names are just really dumb and obviously breaking the rules and people just do it anyways. You play here free so just follows the rules. I don't think it's that hard.

Please explain how "Winchester" violates any rules or is out of line in a fantasy context. I've had the name for eight years. The surname needed to go, sure, but what is wrong with "Winchester" on its own?

[putrid_plum]

You do know that's from a TV show right? I was also talking about the thread in general.

[fuhdlo]

Is p1999's naming policy and its enforcement classic? Can anyone provide proof?

[Baler]

Is p1999's naming policy and its enforcement classic? Can anyone provide proof?

This is an EMU server, Rules are as they dictate them. This does not have to be classic. There are a ton of modern issues with online gaming today that would not be covered by 'classic rules'.

FURTHERMORE... People with these joke names were a novalty back in the day. It was uncommon to find people with silly joking names. On modern mmo's it's an epidemic and everyone with these joke names think they're original and funny.

SO you want to bring up classic? These joke names are NOT classic. Especially on the epidemic scale they've been on p99.

[Mauricio]

You do know that's from a TV show right? I was also talking about the thread in general.

Which is why taking away "Supernatural" is fair (eight years later). But how is "Winchester" on its own with no surname against any policy? What copyright could possibly be claimed for a common last name?

[putrid_plum]

I guess if you followed the rules in the first place you'd have Winchester alone as name. :)

[Mauricio]

I guess if you followed the rules in the first place you'd have Winchester alone as name. :)

So why not remove JUST the surname? Why do I now have be a file compression and archiving tool?

[fuhdlo]

They should show consistency and promptness in its enforcement. To be clear my name is fine and I always pick names that sound like fantasy ones out of personal preference but have no problem with others names that vaguely resemble irl things. To each their own. It is my opinion that people who were reporting names like stockmarket care a bit too much about things that do not matter.

[Baler]

They should show consistency and promptness in its enforcement.

Have you ever heard the saying,. "the straw that broke the camel's back"?
It's been a long time coming, don't get up in arms now because it's finally, deserving, happening.

You also have to keep in mind the staff volunteer. heh

[Ciksharn]

I am Formally petitioning to lead the Immersion Protection Squad, a brigade of veteran players who care about the server and patrol Norrath, reporting ALL names which violate naming convention. Is this recognized by the Staff?

I'm in. I've got a 50+ wizard we can use for transportation. Can I be second in command? Also we need a name. Dial a petition? DaP for short?

[skarlorn]

Winaar is a fine name for a elf.

What is making it stupid is his surname choice.


Winaar Roodel would be a far superior, and also immersive, surname.

[skarlorn]

I'm in. I've got a 50+ wizard we can use for transportation. Can I be second in command? Also we need a name. Dial a petition? DaP for short?

welcoem to the club.

i'll be there 2nite petitioning all violatory scum

[Ciksharn]

welcoem to the club.

i'll be there 2nite petitioning all violatory scum

Looking forward to it. Will you be in ec?

[solleks]

great work Llandris, not an easy job to do. thank you very much!

[fuhdlo]

<Immersion Protection Squad> has to be the most immersion ruining name for a guild though. From a utility stand point, the fun they took away by forcing people to rename was greater than the fun they added for people who petitioned. And some of the names they changes were really poor choices (Winchester is just fine, I'm sure youll get a google hit for something irl for virtually all the names people have)

[skarlorn]

Yeah good thing the guild doesn't exist. It's a secret society. Post your toon names

[Ciksharn]

<Immersion Protection Squad> has to be the most immersion ruining name for a guild though. From a utility stand point, the fun they took away by forcing people to rename was greater than the fun they added for people who petitioned. And some of the names they changes were really poor choices (Winchester is just fine, I'm sure youll get a google hit for something irl for virtually all the names people have)
This is the plan. We will list something related for every googable name possible in the petition. Nobody is safe from our rightousness

[Lulz~Sect]

I dare say most of us are breaking the policy 😮

[Issar]

This is an EMU server, Rules are as they dictate them. This does not have to be classic. There are a ton of modern issues with online gaming today that would not be covered by 'classic rules'.

FURTHERMORE... People with these joke names were a novalty back in the day. It was uncommon to find people with silly joking names. On modern mmo's it's an epidemic and everyone with these joke names think they're original and funny.

SO you want to bring up classic? These joke names are NOT classic. Especially on the epidemic scale they've been on p99.

This. And to the previous poster, name enforcement was pure classic. And to an even earlier post, yes pulling you out of a group and zone was also classic. I had an Ogre warrior in the kunark era pulled out of a LGuk group and summoned by a GM to discuss his name. I fully acknowledged that Arserammer was not acceptable and I would accept any punishment given. For that, my Ogre warrior was forever known as Arflower from that day forward.

[fuhdlo]

I fully acknowledged that Arserammer was not acceptable and I would accept any punishment given.

LOL. My buddy had his name Sodomizer forcibly changed when we were playing WAR.
Sometimes you just gotta expect it. :D

[Fianna]

All of The Second Sons guild will be fucked by this. Most have names related to GoT.

[skarlorn]

All of The Second Sons guild will be fucked by this. Most have names related to GoT.

I've been calling for this since their initial Guild Discussion post. Thank the lord.

I gladly offer up any of my names which are in violation as a sacrifice to the great god of Immersion.

REPENT, YE SINNERS

[Zekayy]

good good finally we can get the guild BDA name change since they have been breaking the rules since day 1

[skarlorn]

Once, when I was raiding VP with BDA, I petitioned the name of a Taken member. A Gm showed up immediately and changed their name.

Then Taken all petitioned a BDA member with name violation. GM came back and changed his name, too. BDA got pretty mad at me for petitioning in the first place, but I was just glad that we'd gotten rid of 2 violation-birds with 1 petition-stone

[Fianna]

So many butts will be hurt by this, its glorious.

We're reaching levels of immersion previously thought to be impossible!!

[Geomance22]

<Kittens Who Say Meow> a bad meme making fun of <Knights Who Say Ni> needs to go

as well as the name spacepope

fair enforcement please

[Ciksharn]

So many butts will be hurt by this, its glorious.

We're reaching levels of immersion previously thought to be impossible!!

How long until gms are overwhelmed by petitions and stop caring. Also how many characters is this going to force into an early retirement?

[skarlorn]

<Kittens Who Say Meow> a bad meme making fun of <Knights Who Say Ni> needs to go

as well as the name spacepope

fair enforcement please

Agreed.

DELET

[Shinko]

Selling blackmarket names pST <3 lol

[Leiker]

A lot of people with weed related names are going to be upset.

[Phenyo]

<Kittens Who Say Meow> a bad meme making fun of <Knights Who Say Ni> needs to go

as well as the name spacepope

fair enforcement please

This.

[Ciksharn]

A lot of people with weed related names are going to be upset.

At least they won't be stressed about it

[Lulz~Sect]

<Kittens Who Say Meow> a bad meme making fun of <Knights Who Say Ni> needs to go

as well as the name spacepope

fair enforcement please

[Baler]

Kittens who say meow are grandfathered in due to Knights who say Ni

Long before your time on this server. I miss those players.

I strongly suggest y'all drop this whole kittens thing. They're not bad people.

[Vallaen]

I strongly suggest y'all drop this whole kittens thing. They're not bad people.

I thought it wasn't about people being bad but about immersion?

[Lulz~Sect]

it's really immersion breaking

sorry guys

[Zekayy]

I strongly suggest y'all drop this whole kittens thing. They're not bad people.

doesnt matter if theyre good people or not theyre breaking the rules by their guild name same with BDA

[Baler]

I thought it wasn't about people being bad but about immersion?

If you want to have a civil discussion i'm all for it. This however sounds like a taunt and that kind of attitude belongs in RnF.

Yes it has nothing to do with good/bad. However people are trying to run kittens name through the mud because they're upset about name changes. I'm simply trying to set the record straight during these so called trying times.

doesnt matter if theyre good people or not theyre breaking the rules by their guild name same with BDA
Read my reply to Vallaen.

[Geomance22]

it's an immersion shitter, nothing fantasy canon about kittens who say meow for shits sake sounds like a club penguin "guild"

[Rerfu]

Mcafxtv Twitchtv .. go ahead and switch it so I can rename please.

[Phenyo]

If you want to have a civil discussion i'm all for it. This however sounds like a taunt and that kind of attitude belongs in RnF.

Yes it has nothing to do with good/bad. However people are trying to run kittens name through the mud because they're upset about name changes. I'm simply trying to set the record straight during these so called trying times.

Their guild name is immersion breaking. Their name IS mud.

[Baler]

I sincerely hope the staff were prepared to deal with grown children.
The way some people are deciding to act about this whole thing is sad.

[Ciksharn]

This. And to the previous poster, name enforcement was pure classic. And to an even earlier post, yes pulling you out of a group and zone was also classic. I had an Ogre warrior in the kunark era pulled out of a LGuk group and summoned by a GM to discuss his name. I fully acknowledged that Arserammer was not acceptable and I would accept any punishment given. For that, my Ogre warrior was forever known as Arflower from that day forward.

I strongly suggest y'all drop this whole kittens thing. They're not bad people.

I'm sure arserammer was not a bad person either

[Phenyo]

I sincerely hope the staff were prepared to deal with grown children.

Rich coming from someone actively reveling in the fact they managed to get peoples names changed on an emulated elf box. Kittens needs to go, sorry u lost.

[Baler]

I'm sure arserammer was not a bad person either

again if you want to go to rnf and talk you're more than welcome.
You obviously didn't read my reply.

Rich coming from someone actively reveling in the fact they managed to get peoples names changed on an emulated elf box. Kittens needs to go, sorry u lost.
Phenyo this is server chat if you want to troll try rnf. Everyone is welcome to review my post history to see what you posted is not accurate.

[Phenyo]

again if you want to go to rnf and talk you're more than welcome.
You obviously didn't read my reply.

QUOTE=Phenyo;2655669]Rich coming from someone actively reveling in the fact they managed to get peoples names changed on an emulated elf box. Kittens needs to go, sorry u lost.
Phenyo this is server chat if you want to troll try rnf.[/QUOTE]

Someone disagreeing with you does not make it trolling. :confused:

[loramin]

This is great, but I just logged in to EC and saw hatebreeder, hotsake nights, hogfather, buddybear pigeon, purplevein, evilelven, ssnake plisskin, luck, hedgefund, fairtrade, okie dokie and steamplant operator.

Keep it coming staff!

[skarlorn]

Welcome to the Squad, Loramin!!!!

[Pokesan]

is there a reward for turning yourself in?

[skarlorn]

honor and glory my friend

i fully intend to petition my surname "Filbuscuck" on my iksar monk.

[Mauricio]

is there a reward for turning yourself in?

I reported my new name "Winaar" for too closely resembling "WinRAR", a file compression and archive utility. I got told not to send any more petitions until I have selected my new name.

So no, no reward.

[sunbask]

Can we get confirmation there will be more name changing?

I saw a guy named stockmarket who got name changed, but Hedgefund still blasting in EC tunnel..

Also saw someone named Prohibition in a guild called Rum Runners. That name is too thematic for my immersion and Prohibition only took place in north america not norrath.

[Ciksharn]

Can we get confirmation there will be more name changing?

I saw a guy named stockmarket who got name changed, but Hedgefund still blasting in EC tunnel..

Also saw someone named Prohibition in a guild called Rum Runners. That name is too thematic for my immersion and Prohibition only took place in north america not norrath.

Was he smuggling black burrow stout from qeynos to erudin? This seems like it could be norrath related

[bonesaw]

I reported my new name "Winaar" for too closely resembling "WinRAR", a file compression and archive utility. I got told not to send any more petitions until I have selected my new name.

So no, no reward.

Lol

[Geomance22]

https://i.imgur.com/FaX3u75.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mlI8Nxa.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/paznw1F.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/A3kc7vS.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mufYyMs.jpg?1

[Ciksharn]

again if you want to go to rnf and talk you're more than welcome.
You obviously didn't read my reply.

Your reply said they aren't bad people leave them alone. The character of the player is not the matter at hand and the rules do not have an exclusion stating all non-bad people are exempt from this policy. Will be petitioning every active member next time I am on.

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/FaX3u75.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mlI8Nxa.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/paznw1F.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/A3kc7vS.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mufYyMs.jpg?1

Fucking LOL

Jesus christ I can't wait to finish work today and join u. I'll look for you this evening so we can do the Lords work

[Ennewi]

Well if it's immersion people want, there are a decent number of NPCs that should have their names changed as well, some of them being only slight variations of/direct references to names unrelated to EverQuest.

I offer up the one character name I have that is against server policy in the hopes that the first name will be spared: Effenu Withmeflute.

[Lhancelot]

I aint worried all my toons got really inventive non-violating, awesomely sounding fantasy names. GOML nerdlings.

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/FaX3u75.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mlI8Nxa.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/paznw1F.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/A3kc7vS.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mufYyMs.jpg?1

ROFL this is awesome. ^

[Ciksharn]

I hope namesnitch first petitioned himself but this is great. Actually lold reading it

[Lhancelot]

I hope namesnitch first petitioned himself but this is great. Actually lold reading it

Yeah you can't help but giggle at the hypocrisy. :)

I know one thing, whoever is on this rampage is going hard in the paint. I sure hope Sirken guards his name well. ;)

[Rerfu]

Geo.. I spit my food out I was laughing so hard.

Edit: Can I wave in my picture?

[Phenyo]

https://i.imgur.com/FaX3u75.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mlI8Nxa.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/paznw1F.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/A3kc7vS.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/mufYyMs.jpg?1

This is fucking hilarious, best post of 2018 so far

[Rerfu]

https://i.imgur.com/gMDxIIV.png

Can we agree that this is overboard yet?

[Ciksharn]

https://i.imgur.com/gMDxIIV.png

Can we agree that this is overboard yet?

We can. This is why we are petitioning tlo have them changed. Welcome to the crusade

[skarlorn]

Welcome to the crusade

[Computer Man]

Can't wait to see Bait Masterson's face when he feels a guide enter the zone...

[Nexii]

mass name changes without a public list seems at odds with combating RMT

[Hillje]

Alanus Morrisette

Murderz Gnomes (I laughed wont lie)

Electrical Guitar

Hotsake Nights

Mobbaby Sitter

Roloffs Familyfarm

the list goes on and on all in the EC Tunnel as I type this

[skarlorn]

Im' online. Filbus is running to EC now. Let the petitions BEGIN.

[Phenyo]

I was asked by a GM to stop petitioning names

[aMindAmok]

I was asked by a GM to stop petitioning names

Did they ask nicely?

[skarlorn]

The Cleansing Had Begun

First, I had to purge my own toon names.

https://i.imgur.com/T8RCres.jpg

Then, it was time to hit EC.

https://i.imgur.com/XOc6fOT.jpg

Having FUN cleansing Norrath

https://i.imgur.com/gqfImoT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rvG5imZ.jpg

This is just the beginning. BE ADVISED.

[Bboboo]

Do we have to log onto each character to see if our name was changed or will it be visible from the character select screen?

[Nisse]

Just a blatant slap in the face to a lot of long time members of the community, arbitrarily enforcing a naming policy 8 years into this project. I enjoyed that in the past I could quit and come back and still find old friends in my friends list.

[Nisse]

I strongly suggest y'all drop this whole kittens thing. They're not bad people.

If it's truly about the naming policy and not merely to rustle p99 players arbitrarily then by all means kittens and probably thousands of player names that haven't been changed yet are in violation of the "policy"

[Yoink1986]

It’s gotta be just to piss people off. Just random people like baler running around petitioning.

[Baler]

It’s gotta be just to piss people off. Just random people like baler running around petitioning.

Please don't flame me in server chat.

I have not petitioned a name in a very long time. The idea that I go around every day that I play and send the staff petitions non-stop about names is absurd.

[skarlorn]

This is the End Game of p99. This is how the staff wants it. They were too busy doing patches til now.

Welcome to the Cleansing.

[Baler]

The Cleansing Had Begun

First, I had to purge my own toon names.

https://i.imgur.com/T8RCres.jpg

Then, it was time to hit EC.

https://i.imgur.com/XOc6fOT.jpg

Having FUN cleansing Norrath

https://i.imgur.com/gqfImoT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rvG5imZ.jpg

This is just the beginning. BE ADVISED.

This is great.

[fastboy21]

This is great.

Say it ain't so...Filbus got Goatwoman!?!? Where will this all end?

[Mauricio]

If it's truly about the naming policy and not merely to rustle p99 players arbitrarily then by all means kittens and probably thousands of player names that haven't been changed yet are in violation of the "policy"

If it was actually about the naming policy, we wouldn't have:

Rettlon Brenclog (almost exactly the same name as an NPC in Unrest).
Upskirts Dotgov
RaistMajere (character from the Dragonlance series)
AustinPowers
Austinpowerz Spywhoshaggedme
People with surnames "Deftones (warner bros.), "Stormshadow" (trademark Hasbro Inc.), etc.

We also wouldn't be getting told to "not petition names that are in violation of the rules". So they aren't interested in having rule violators reported and only feel like going after people "randomly".

Hard to take the rules seriously when they only apply to some. But hey, not much different than the rule of law in the US as of late either.

[Watchmyfeet]

Would be nice if everyone was treated equally, but I doubt that will happen. Watchmyfeet to Proudfeet. I'm glad an angry letter from a player unable to get laid made us mix it up. I hope your EQ experience has improved.

[Pokesan]

Would be nice if everyone was treated equally, but I doubt that will happen. Watchmyfeet to Proudfeet. I'm glad an angry letter from a player unable to get laid made us mix it up. I hope your EQ experience has improved.

proudfeet is a lotr halfling uh tribe i guess

immersion restored

[Vheran]

My name in game is Chinese, my second language. Sounds like it baits to everyone's stupid immersion but it's literally just "resurrect". So I should get a petition or the rules should include the preclusion "APPLIES TO ENGLISH ONLY"

Also, I am in KWSM. And everyone either falls into the categories of: they made something up to resemble some made up language for "immersion" purposes in a almost two decade old elf sim, its in another language that means something as matter of fact as persecuted english names, or they just did it in english and play the game and dont get butthurt about people's names in an almost two decade old elf sim. So hopefully in the sanctity of this crusade I'll log in soon and not recognize my name, my guild, or any of my friends. lol weee IMMERSION

[skarlorn]

Enjoy your immersion thanks to the noble staff and caring players. Sorry you decided to BREAK THE LAW LOL.

[Canelek]

The Cleansing Had Begun

First, I had to purge my own toon names.

https://i.imgur.com/T8RCres.jpg

Then, it was time to hit EC.

https://i.imgur.com/XOc6fOT.jpg

Having FUN cleansing Norrath

https://i.imgur.com/gqfImoT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rvG5imZ.jpg

This is just the beginning. BE ADVISED.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! :D You know it is working when you get the tried and true 'fuck you'. :)

[Voodude]

I guess it's good that names are "thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest" while we're having conversations about the Super Bowl and McDonalds in guild chat.

[khanable]

Alright, real talk time. Nuking names and laughing at them is great and all, but are we going to get a public list of before and afters?

Y’all just gave a ton of shithead motherfuckers a clean slate in one of the only MMOs where reputation actually matters

[Oleris]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA! :D You know it is working when you get the tried and true 'fuck you'. :)

just burytoe.

[Haloren]

Not that I had any names that broke the rules, i logged in to check a character just in case and popped in next to a 'Jakefrom Statefarm' chuckled like that wasnt caught? I dont think the insurance company has set up in Norrath yet...

[mattydef]

My rogue is Murderz Gnomes, in my defense I petitioned myself about a year ago. The GM responded with "Your name is fine, sorry. Enjoy the slaughter.

[eezl]

Wait, so I can't roleplay as a half elf druid roleplaying in a roleplaying game as a character that identifies as being a kitten who says meow?

[Mauricio]

Not that I had any names that broke the rules, i logged in to check a character just in case and popped in next to a 'Jakefrom Statefarm' chuckled like that wasnt caught? I dont think the insurance company has set up in Norrath yet...

Jakefrom Statefarm - No other possible interpretation other than its use in a commercial. Literally uses a company's name that is completely unambiguous - ACCEPTABLE.

Winchester - A common name when (by itself) does not refer to any particular product or work, fictional or otherwise - NOT ACCEPTABLE.

These naming rules sound like they are taken very seriously. Rest assured that our immersion is safe in the hands of the staff.

[Troxx]

The policy says first name changes will be provided if the name violates the policy. I don't see the spot where it says "We will change your name, without warning or chance to address the situation yourself. We will also do it mid group, causing you to zone, get kicked from the group, and lose pet. During a contested spawn also"

Perhaps you shouldn't have violated the rules of the server?

Fitting punishment.

[kotton05]

This is the most glorious thing I’ve ever seen. Sorry to those I will never recognize ever again... in before Caiu cleanses a guild recharge.

[Bruno]

You guys seriously changed the name of my main I've had since February 3rd 2010? I'm not mad, or angry, but words cannot express how disappointing this is. I've always fully supported the staff here, especially Sirken, who I have had the pleasure of playing under since vz/tz emu days. But this is very disheartening. I will most likely be bowing out of the community for good. Thanks for the enjoyment. I guess it was time to move on anyways.

[Stroboo]

Anybody have a name change that wasnt in Baler’s RnF name roast list?

[Elerial]

Cant really have any respect for a naming policy where the main person behind enforcing of the policy violates it.

I.e.: Sirken

[Sicc]

You just empowered snitches/griefers.

Also rip to anyone who lent out any gear. Hope it was to someone honest.

[Bruno]

Farewell all.

https://i.imgur.com/1r6AGzb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bVIvFHp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Wtt1trX.jpg

[Leiker]

Can I have your stuff?

[aMindAmok]

Cant really have any respect for a naming policy where the main person behind enforcing of the policy violates it.

I.e.: Sirken

To be fair. Sirken is NOT a player.

[Wfrench1234]

Nice job deleting your char. You’ll
Never regret that.

[Cambiant]

Llandris, would a real world place as a character name be "thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest"? For example, can I make a character named Minneapolis? Could this be interpreted as me trying to represent all the people of Minneapolis, which depending on my behavior could certainly be offensive to someone who is from there?

[Watchmyfeet]

Pretty petty changes if you ask me. Obviously we can read there is a policy that some names didn't go along with, but when you wait 6 + years to finally change them it comes across as pretty sad. A lot of long term players had 6,7,8 year names removed. Don't think it's respectful to wait that long, change a bunch of names, and leave the other violating names up for the next time you want to /flex

[Mauricio]

Llandris, would a real world place as a character name be "thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest"? For example, can I make a character named Minneapolis? Could this be interpreted as me trying to represent all the people of Minneapolis, which depending on my behavior could certainly be offensive to someone who is from there?

The correct answer is, "If they feel like it".

Don't waste your time getting bent out of shape or trying to reason with these people. Every dispute or discussion is always going to end with some variation of, "Because I'm the boss and I said" or "My server, my rules".

[Lhancelot]

Pretty petty changes if you ask me. Obviously we can read there is a policy that some names didn't go along with, but when you wait 6 + years to finally change them it comes across as pretty sad. A lot of long term players had 6,7,8 year names removed. Don't think it's respectful to wait that long, change a bunch of names, and leave the other violating names up for the next time you want to /flex

I just remind myself it's not our world we are visitors here, nothing more and try to remind myself of all the good things etc. that we get for free. It's a lot.

That being said, I empathize with those affected by the name changes especially ones that are established and been here literally for years.

The guides owe no explanation, but even when knowing that it doesn't make it easier for those who had names they cared about to see their names stripped off their characters instantaneously.

People form attachments to their toons, and I am just surprised by the manner in which the policy was suddenly enforced with no kind of warning whatsoever. An early heads up before doing it would have been nice, just so people could be able to mentally prepare and process it.

I feel for you guys that are upset by this. It's not the end of the world however and you can still enjoy p99, you will just have to bond with a new name and identity on your toon.

If that's not possible make an alt, and if that's not possible well you will probably leave which would suck but I get that too.

[Watchmyfeet]

I just remind myself it's not our world we are visitors here, nothing more and try to remind myself of all the good things etc. that we get for free. It's a lot.

That being said, I empathize with those affected by the name changes especially ones that are established and been here literally for years.

The guides owe no explanation, but even when knowing that it doesn't make it easier for those who had names they cared about to see their names stripped off their characters instantaneously.

People form attachments to their toons, and I am just surprised by the manner in which the policy was suddenly enforced with no kind of warning whatsoever. An early heads up before doing it would have been nice, just so people could be able to mentally prepare and process it.

I feel for you guys that are upset by this. It's not the end of the world however and you can still enjoy p99, you will just have to bond with a new name and identity on your toon.

Well said

[Ciksharn]

Jakefrom Statefarm - No other possible interpretation other than its use in a commercial. Literally uses a company's name that is completely unambiguous - ACCEPTABLE.

Winchester - A common name when (by itself) does not refer to any particular product or work, fictional or otherwise - NOT ACCEPTABLE.

These naming rules sound like they are taken very seriously. Rest assured that our immersion is safe in the hands of the staff.

Winchester is a proper noun, the name of a company the makes rifles. At least do a basic Google search before trying to flame. It'll make you look smarter.

[Ciksharn]

People form attachments to their toons, and I am just surprised by the manner in which the policy was suddenly enforced with no kind of warning whatsoever. An early heads up before doing it would have been nice, just so people could be able to mentally prepare and process it.

A heads up would have accomplished nothing. Same poopstorm would have ensued.

[sunbask]

Winchester is a proper noun, the name of a company the makes rifles. At least do a basic Google search before trying to flame. It'll make you look smarter.

Im sorry but i found this so hilariously ironic it compelled me to reply.

You do realize Winchester is a name first? Thats like saying Jordan only refers to the shoes...

Please use some common sense. It'll make you look smarter.

[Ciksharn]

Im sorry but i found this so hilariously ironic it compelled me to reply.

You do realize Winchester is a name first? Thats like saying Jordan only refers to the shoes...

Please use some common sense. It'll make you look smarter.

You stated it does not refer to anything specific which is just wrong, but I do appreciate your attempt to rectify your first post

[kotton05]

I just remind myself it's not our world we are visitors here, nothing more and try to remind myself of all the good things

I just remind myself it's not our world we are visitors here, nothing more and try to remind myself of all the good things

most true statement so far

[kotton05]

A heads up would have accomplished nothing. Same poopstorm would have ensued.

its not your world, the gods have spoken, this is the way brad intended

for all those who feel betrayed, you have not been betrayed, you're being sorted for when brad returns!

[Lhancelot]

its not your world, the gods have spoken, this is the way brad intended

for all those who feel betrayed, you have not been betrayed, you're being sorted for when brad returns!

Nice to add some levity here. Thanks. :p

[Mauricio]

Winchester is a proper noun, the name of a company the makes rifles. At least do a basic Google search before trying to flame. It'll make you look smarter.

Wilson makes sporting goods. So does Easton. So does Bauer. So I guess that means no one is ever allowed to use these names anywhere else for any use whatsoever, right? Sucks if your last name is Bauer! Guess you can't open "Bauer Shooting Range", because Bauer makes hockey equipment, right? (Wrong).

Winchester the wood eld druid in a fantasy RPG is not in violation of any trademark or copyright. It's down to "the staff doesn't want to allow that name". Since it's a private server, they have that right and don't have to have a reason. But let's not pretend that there is any infringement or rule violation here over a name as prevalent as "Winchester", especially over "guns and ammo" in a world where guns and ammo don't exist. Get real.

Interesting note - there actually is a trademark registered for "Winchester Ranger". Had he been a ranger, there would have been a legitimate case!

[Mauricio]

its not your world, the gods have spoken, this is the way brad intended

for all those who feel betrayed, you have not been betrayed, you're being sorted for when brad returns!

If I decide to play Bradtheon, I will be naming my character "Winchester". And it won't get removed.

[Baler]

I want to say this is server chat so people understand i'm not trolling...

I never wanted to hurt anyone or make them sad. My intentions weren't to cause anger or even hatred towards anyone. I simply wanted better immersion. That is all.

:(

[Ciksharn]

I want to say this is server chat so people understand i'm not trolling...

I never wanted to hurt anyone or make them sad. My intentions weren't to cause anger or even hatred towards anyone. I simply wanted better immersion. That is all.

:(

Add his name to the list filbus. Welcome to the crusade friend

[Stroboo]

I want to say this is server chat so people understand i'm not trolling...

I never wanted to hurt anyone or make them sad. My intentions weren't to cause anger or even hatred towards anyone. I simply wanted better immersion. That is all.

:(

When you get exactly what you want how can this statement not be considered a troll?

[Cambiant]

I want to say this is server chat so people understand i'm not trolling...

I never wanted to hurt anyone or make them sad. My intentions weren't to cause anger or even hatred towards anyone. I simply wanted better immersion. That is all.

:(

We don't believe you. Rubbing noses in it has come full circle. Welcome to the other side of the tracks, homie.

[Lhancelot]

We don't believe you. Rubbing noses in it has come full circle. Welcome to the other side of the tracks, homie.

The funny thing is Baler had nothing to do with them deciding to enforce the naming policy.

He is actually "leeching" off the situation, pretending his thread (created a year ago) had some sort of influence over them deciding to enforce the policy. It didn't.

Llandris explained why they decided to start enforcing the policy, and nowhere was it written that it was to further enhance Baler's personal sense of immersion on p99. :p

Basically it boils down to a petty person finding humor in the sadness of others, and as you said... Rubbing their noses in it.

[kotton05]

Baler is a sad and weak troll. Perhaps the real life stuff you’ve spewed at me is in order of a petition.

[loramin]

Wilson makes sporting goods. So does Easton. So does Bauer. So I guess that means no one is ever allowed to use these names anywhere else for any use whatsoever, right? Sucks if your last name is Bauer! Guess you can't open "Bauer Shooting Range", because Bauer makes hockey equipment, right? (Wrong).

Winchester the wood eld druid in a fantasy RPG is not in violation of any trademark or copyright. It's down to "the staff doesn't want to allow that name". Since it's a private server, they have that right and don't have to have a reason. But let's not pretend that there is any infringement or rule violation here over a name as prevalent as "Winchester", especially over "guns and ammo" in a world where guns and ammo don't exist. Get real.

Interesting note - there actually is a trademark registered for "Winchester Ranger". Had he been a ranger, there would have been a legitimate case!

You're being deliberately dense. Winchester is an internationally recognized name, and not even a recent one: go back a hundred years and interview almost anyone in America and they'll be familiar with the Winchester rifle.

If you can show me any widely recognized name like that that didn't/won't get removed you'll have a point, but until then you're just whining because your extremely well-known and clearly rule-violating name got changed.

[NachtMystium]

Can somebody please just put some boots on and create another p99 that is good PLEASE

[kotton05]

Just like how Loramin is a generic drug... Loramin is an antihistamine that reduces the effects of natural chemical histamine in the body. Histamine can produce symptoms of sneezing, itching, watery eyes, and runny nose...

you could be on the tracks soon enough!

[OwenHindman]

didnt sony launch a new progression server :)

[Ciksharn]

Can somebody please just put some boots on and create another p99 that is good PLEASE

Boots, the only thing needed to create a p99 clone that is "good". If you build it they will come.

[loramin]

Can somebody please just put some boots on and create another p99 that is good PLEASE

Because "server with Pap Smear" = good and "server without Pap Smear" = bad? :confused:

[Cambiant]

I know Llance. I couldn't care less if someone wanted the naming policy enforced. I appreciate this free, excellent server. But seeing someone dance on all over the graves of other folks' elf-names while in clear violation himself is juicy. I'm not upset, he's just made himself an easy and fun target.

[loramin]

Just like how Loramin is a generic drug... Loramin is an antihistamine that reduces the effects of natural chemical histamine in the body. Histamine can produce symptoms of sneezing, itching, watery eyes, and runny nose...

you could be on the tracks soon enough!

As I said before, Loramin the Barbarian Shaman was created using Verant's own name generator back in 2000. It predates any drug company marketing and is classic AF. Furthermore, it's only used as a a drug alias extremely rarely: you can tell because when you google "Loramin" the fifth, sixth, and seventh results are all references to my character, not the drug.

Try looking for references to a character based off an actual drug name (eg. Ambien) and you'll be lucky if you can even find one on the fifth/sixth/seventh page of results.

[kotton05]

So you’re blaming brads name generator? I think you just got added to the list! Lol jk just messing with ya.

[NachtMystium]

Because "server with Pap Smear" = good and "server without Pap Smear" = bad? :confused:

8 year long retro name changes on a 10 year+ Everquest emulated server is good how? Isn't your name a medication?

[NachtMystium]

As I said before, Loramin the Barbarian Shaman was created using Verant's own name generator back in 2000. It predates any drug company marketing and is classic AF. Furthermore, it's only used as a a drug alias extremely rarely: you can tell because when you google "Loramin" the fifth, sixth, and seventh results are all references to my character, not the drug.

Try looking for references to a character based off an actual drug name (eg. Ambien) and you'll be lucky if you can even find one on the fifth/sixth/seventh page of results.

So as long as it's an obscure reference it's okay? Good logic

Name generator from verant is hearsay and not provable at all. Literally holds zero weight in your argument

[skarlorn]

I am so glad everyone is being cleansed. You should have followed the rules! God bless the staff.

[Ciksharn]

So as long as it's an obscure reference it's okay? Good logic

Name generator from verant is hearsay and not provable at all. Literally holds zero weight in your argument

This is actually a legitimate point. I could argue arserammer or nilbog or rogean were randomly generated but I do not think it would carry much weight

[Lhancelot]

As I said before, Loramin the Barbarian Shaman was created using Verant's own name generator back in 2000. It predates any drug company marketing and is classic AF. Furthermore, it's only used as a a drug alias extremely rarely: you can tell because when you google "Loramin" the fifth, sixth, and seventh results are all references to my character, not the drug.

Try looking for references to a character based off an actual drug name (eg. Ambien) and you'll be lucky if you can even find one on the fifth/sixth/seventh page of results.

This is irrelevant, we are on P99 not Verant's 2000 version of Everquest.

The year you made Loramin on P99, the drug in fact was in existence therefore rendering the name Loramin within violation of the naming policy.

***I have spent the last 58 minutes spamming the P99 random generator for a barbarian shaman and Loramin has not come up once. This proves that Loramin simply cannot be randomly generated using the P99 random name generator, thus IS a violating name according to the rules set forth herein as stated by staff and guides.


JKing Loramin. :) I think your name is OK, but I also think Winchester is OK too. This means nothing though, as what I think means nothing.

[skarlorn]

Everyone complaining about your names being changed...

Just imagine the agony I have suffered running around Norrath seeing your terrible, stupid f*cking names.

[NachtMystium]

I am so glad everyone is being cleansed. You should have followed the rules! God bless the staff.

So who is to blame for not enforcing them for years? Why should people be punished for the staffs lack of adherence to the rules from the beginning?

It's bad governing to have a generally unspoken leeway for years that everyone was cool with then turn around and retro everyone to shit for names like Winchester.

Like I said before, no one will put the work in to create a new p99. this has already causes big backlash but I doubt anything major will happen. P99 is just a nostalgiabox and will die with the people who no longer have old Everquest memories

[Ciksharn]

Everyone complaining about your names being changed...

Just imagine the agony I have suffered running around Norrath seeing your terrible, stupid f*cking names.

Everyone should just be happy with the time they had to enjoy their name before it gets destroyed to immersion. We are making p99 great again

[Mauricio]

You're being deliberately dense. Winchester is an internationally recognized name, and not even a recent one: go back a hundred years and interview almost anyone in America and they'll be familiar with the Winchester rifle.

If you can show me any widely recognized name like that that didn't/won't get removed you'll have a point, but until then you're just whining because your extremely well-known and clearly rule-violating name got changed.

There's an "Austinpowers" in Awakened and another character with a similar name in Aftermath (which I know did not get hit).

Next it's going to be "Williams" cant be used anywhere, because WMS made pinball machines and now makes gambling machines. Jones can't be used because "Edward Jones". Smith can't be used because "Smith and Wesson". Thankfully, that's not how copyright and trademark laws work.

Winchester does not infringe. If they don't want to allow it, that's their prerogative, but to suggest it somehow violates a copyright or trademark is ludicrous.

[skarlorn]

So who is to blame for not enforcing them for years? Why should people be punished for the staffs lack of adherence to the rules from the beginning?

It's bad governing to have a generally unspoken leeway for years that everyone was cool with then turn around and retro everyone to shit for names like Winchester.


The only people to blame are ppl who named themselves in ways that broke the naming convention.

I'm not sorry everyone got accustomed to their immersion ruining names.

Now that the staff is at the end of the timeline, they have more focus to make it clear what they want out of p99 aside from the final patch.

[Ciksharn]

There's an "Austinpowers" in Awakened and another character with a similar name in Aftermath (which I know did not get hit).

Next it's going to be "Williams" cant be used anywhere, because WMS made pinball machines and now makes gambling machines. Jones can't be used because "Edward Jones". Smith can't be used because "Smith and Wesson". Thankfully, that's not how copyright and trademark laws work.

Winchester does not infringe. If they don't want to allow it, that's their prerogative, but to suggest it somehow violates a copyright or trademark is ludicrous.

Williams Jones and Smith are all not classic. Will be on the lookout for these and petition when found.

[skarlorn]

On another note, everyone who is butthurt because their name got changed early on... Consider yourself lucky! Now you have an immersive name.

Fear not, MORE WILL BE CLEANSED.

[NachtMystium]

If kittens does not get changed then this whole thing is bs. I've hated that guilds name since day one and it's beyond retarded, such a shame they are all good people

[Lhancelot]

Like Skarlorn, I will begin to /petition and try to have any and/or all character names purged if they are not in accordance with the naming policy.

To prove my ogre shaman is clearly violating the naming policy, I submit this link:

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bahgtru

And this SS:

https://i.imgur.com/vGhqnCJ.jpg

Hope this helps with the purge.

Psst, Baler... help me out man have a talk with someone get this changed man, I always hated this name and would LOVE to get it taken off! Thanks bro!


For the purge, RAWWRRR!!! :rolleyes:

[Ciksharn]

If kittens does not get changed then this whole thing is bs. I've hated that guilds name since day one and it's beyond retarded, such a shame they are all good people

Petition every time you are on. It's the only way to let the gms know that this guild is ruining your immersion

[NachtMystium]

Like Skarlorn, I will begin to /petition and try to have any and/or all character names purged if they are not in accordance with the naming policy.

To prove my ogre shaman is clearly violating the naming policy, I submit this link:

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bahgtru

And this SS:

https://i.imgur.com/vGhqnCJ.jpg

Hope this helps with the purge.

Psst, Baler... help me out man have a talk with someone get this changed man, I always hated this name and would LOVE to get it taken off! Thanks bro!


For the purge, RAWWRRR!!! :rolleyes:

Im actually joining this. Gonna make a super dumb namesnitch name and start rollin out these name petitions, kittens is at the top of the list for the guild name. At least we can make some entertaining meta out of all this! We should make a namesnitch guild?

[skarlorn]

I definitely agree, Kittens MUST go.

As Pokesan wisely stated "kittens delenda est"

When I log on tonight, I will also be petitioning for the change of my EC mule, Platwhore's name.

I'll add BAHGTRU to the List .

[sunbask]

You're being deliberately dense. Winchester is an internationally recognized name, and not even a recent one: go back a hundred years and interview almost anyone in America and they'll be familiar with the Winchester rifle.

If you can show me any widely recognized name like that that didn't/won't get removed you'll have a point, but until then you're just whining because your extremely well-known and clearly rule-violating name got changed.

Loramin why are you being so hypocritical friend? Your name is taken from a widely known and distributed generic drug.

That's like if I named my Shaman or Cleric Tylenol?

[Phenyo]

#CHANGEKITTENS
#PURGE

[Lhancelot]

I definitely agree, Kittens MUST go.

As Pokesan wisely stated "kittens delenda est"

When I log on tonight, I will also be petitioning for the change of my EC mule, Platwhore's name.

I'll add BAHGTRU to the List .

TY Skarlorn.

Baler, mind seconding this petition? I'd like to have it done before the weekend is up, thanks.

[skarlorn]

Loramin why are you being so hypocritical friend? Your name is taken from a widely known and distributed generic drug.

That's like if I named my Shaman or Cleric Tylenol?

one of my dear EQ pals is a dwarf cleric named Theraflu

You'd better believe I'm adding him to THE LIST

[Lhancelot]

Loramin why are you being so hypocritical friend? Your name is taken from a widely known and distributed generic drug.

That's like if I named my Shaman or Cleric Tylenol?

https://i.imgur.com/ugHkMg0.gif


Loramin, time to start thinking up a new name now. :(

On a serious note, I am surprised at Loramin's steadfastness on this topic.

Dude, have a heart and a bit of reason here. Be honest, "Winchester" shouldn't be considered a violating name.

[loramin]

So as long as it's an obscure reference it's okay? Good logic

Name generator from verant is hearsay and not provable at all. Literally holds zero weight in your argument

You're right, I can never "prove" the name came from the generator. But I can prove I had it on live in 2000 (maybe 2001) as I've got screenshots from era-appropriate GM events that could never have happened her on P99 (eg. one involves the Avatar or Love, which to my knowledge has never appeared here). And since this was before the drug alias, where else would I get such a random fantasy sounding name other than the generator? I'm not that creative.

But really you hit the nail on the head with:
So as long as it's an obscure reference it's okay? Good logic

It's actually perfect logic: the whole idea of "breaking immersion" is that you see something from outside the game that clearly doesn't belong. An obscure drug alias won't register to 99% of the players as something that doesn't belong.

I had a friend name a WoW character Rengstorf ... after a street name near him. 99% of people don't have a Rengstorf street near them so they'll just see it as a cool name for a dwarf, no harm no foul. But if someone named their character "AvenueQ" that would obviously not belong to 100% of the players.

This isn't rocket science people: if your name clearly means something non-Everquest-related when most people see it, it doesn't belong. If your name is the same as something obscure that most people have never heard of, it's fine.

So who is to blame for not enforcing them for years?

Um, the staff? And if you really can't see fit to forgive not enforcing one particular rule 100% of the time in the past (on the free server they've been running for almost a decade) ... you're an ass.

[loramin]

Loramin why are you being so hypocritical friend? Your name is taken from a widely known and distributed generic drug.

That's like if I named my Shaman or Cleric Tylenol?

Yeah, so widely known that my character shows up as search results 5, 6, AND 7 when you google it :rolleyes:.

Dude, have a heart and a bit of reason here. Be honest, "Winchester" shouldn't be considered a violating name.


This isn't rocket science people: if your name clearly means something non-Everquest-related when most people see it, it doesn't belong. If your name is the same as something obscure that most people have never heard of, it's fine.

[Ciksharn]

Im actually joining this. Gonna make a super dumb namesnitch name and start rollin out these name petitions, kittens is at the top of the list for the guild name. At least we can make some entertaining meta out of all this! We should make a namesnitch guild?

This has been discussed with names such as dial a petition and immersions who say immersion however it has been decided we shall remain annonymersion. Welcome to the crusade

[Lhancelot]

#CHANGEKITTENS
#PURGE

Only thing that kept me from joining Kittens is their guild name.

I love cats, and I can't stand this guild name.

Aesthetically it's clunky as hell, and it's a direct rip from the ORIGINAL guild that was called <Knights Who Say Ni>.

If this happens, if Kittens are purged of their awful name I will join them. I'd like to try raiding again, and I know my pal Argh could teach me a lot of things. Only thing stopping us is that tag, Argh.

[Phenyo]

Um, the staff?

Blatant staff bashing. This is against the rules.

[jakerees]

Farewell all.

https://i.imgur.com/1r6AGzb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bVIvFHp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Wtt1trX.jpg

:D

[NachtMystium]

You fools have gone too far with your pathetic, foolish names. I've laid dormant FAR too long and it has gotten out of control. The staff are weak and someone stronger, someone passionate must take the reigns...a vigilante some may say.
I do not ask that you join me in searching for rule-breaking names.. I URGE you to take up arms with me against these immersion-breaking degenerates, we will KICK ASS and TAKE NAMES(quite literally)... I have dusted off my old blade and awoken from my aeonic slumber, meet me in EC my friends and let the petitions FLOW!!
https://i.imgur.com/hzX9W6c.jpg

[skarlorn]

This has been discussed with names such as dial a petition and immersions who say immersion however it has been decided we shall remain annonymersion. Welcome to the crusade

The name would have to be something like

<North Freeport Heritage Registrars>

so it wouldn't ruin our precious immersions.

That said, the guild would not empower us any further than just adding people to THE LIST.

And Loramin is right. Winchester NEEDED to go. It's a rifle, it's a place, and it's a name steeped in long UK familial lore. It would be like having a toon named Rotheschild or Obama

[Lhancelot]

And Loramin is right. Winchester NEEDED to go. It's a rifle, it's a place, and it's a name steeped in long UK familial lore. It would be like having a toon named Rotheschild or Obama

no.

[Phenyo]

You fools have gone too far with your pathetic, foolish names. I've laid dormant FAR too long and it has gotten out of control. The staff are weak and someone stronger, someone passionate must take the reigns...a vigilante some may say.
I do not ask that you join me in searching for rule-breaking names.. I URGE you to take up arms with me against these immersion-breaking degenerates, we will KICK ASS and TAKE NAMES(quite literally)... I have dusted off my old blade and awoken from my aeonic slumber, meet me in EC my friends and let the petitions FLOW!!
https://i.imgur.com/hzX9W6c.jpg

Godspeed

[kotton05]

Can this happen on red too plz gods? I know red is dead but the tears will be equally as juicy I’m sure. People on red have actually assaulted each other before over in game.

[loramin]

no.

Just curious, what's your objection to the basic heuristic of:


This isn't rocket science people: if your name clearly means something non-Everquest-related when most people see it, it doesn't belong. If your name is the same as something obscure that most people have never heard of, it's fine.

[sunbask]

Recently, the staff went ahead and changed several names of those in violation of the naming policy. I'll go ahead and post the policy here, just to save you time;



If your character name was part of this group, you may petition for a 1 time name change (within an acceptable time frame) so long as it adheres to the naming policy. Do not petition with the expectation of getting your original name back, it was changed for a reason. Thank you for your cooperation.

-P99 Staff

Hi Llandris,

Your name backwards is Sir DNA DLL (dynamic link library).

Is it safe to assume that the next name purging will include your name as well?

Thanks.

[skarlorn]

no.

Let me show you all the ways Winchester needed to go:

-Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (Winchester family line, Winchester UK)
Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony) (Winchester Rifles)

YIKES pretty bad huh

Please be judicious in choosing your character's names, and understand that it is a currency of reputation that cannot be discarded. -nilbog

[Lhancelot]

Just curious, what's your objection to the basic heuristic of:

Every time I see the name Loramin, I can't help but think of this

https://i.imgur.com/kjpCAwv.png

Have to admit, I wish I never seen this image of Loramin on a box. :(

[Lhancelot]

Hi Llandris,

Your name backwards is Sir DNA DLL (dynamic link library).

Is it safe to assume that the next name purging will include your name as well?

Thanks.

I am here to help you out, don't go down this rabbit hole my pal.

You got to remember one thing. It's their world, not ours.

Poke fun at it, have fun with it, but don't let your emotions get the best of you. :)

[kotton05]

No one is safe!

PURGE BOYS! Can’t wait to join the crusade of the just and right!

where do you want to be when brad returns!?

[Ciksharn]

No one is safe!

PURGE BOYS! Can’t wait to join the crusade of the just and right!

where do you want to be when brad returns!?

Welcome friend. Our ranks our growing quickly.
P.s. thanks loramin for the new signature!

[loramin]

Every time I see the name Loramin, I can't help but think of this

https://i.imgur.com/kjpCAwv.png

Have to admit, I wish I never seen this image of Loramin on a box. :(

I wish I hadn't either (had no idea it was a drug name before this whole conversation started).

But you didn't answer my question. Loramin, the drug name, is extremely obscure: as I said my character shows up three times on the first page when you google it. 99% of all players do not see "Loramin" and think "that's a marketing alias of the drug ___" ... they'll think it's a fantasy name. However, 99% of players who see "Winchester" will think of the gun, family, mystery house, etc.

So again, I ask: what's your problem with banning names that obviously mean something non-EQ to most people? If you honestly believe people should be able to have names that clearly mean something non-EQ-related, just say so.

[skarlorn]

still no response from lhance regarding winchester?

Guess even he can't argue with the P99 naming conventions!

btw lhance i'm not adding your name to the list because i don't want to help you. yo'll have to petition yourself.

[Phenyo]

Every time I see the name Loramin, I can't help but think of this

https://i.imgur.com/kjpCAwv.png

Have to admit, I wish I never seen this image of Loramin on a box. :(

Every time i see loramins smug posts i think of this medication. He clearly is in violation of the naming policy and must be CORRECTED.

[Pokesan]

lhance self reporting?

YOU WILL NOT EVADE ME!

[jakerees]

I wish I hadn't either (had no idea it was a drug name before this whole conversation started).

But you didn't answer my question. Loramin, the drug name, is extremely obscure: as I said my character shows up three times on the first page when you google it. 99% of all players do not see "Loramin" and think "that's a marketing alias of the drug ___" ... they'll think it's a fantasy name. However, 99% of players who see "Winchester" will think of the gun, family, mystery house, etc.

So again, I ask: what's your problem with banning names that obviously mean something non-EQ to most people? If you honestly believe people should be able to have names that clearly mean something non-EQ-related, just say so.

It becomes less obscure the more it is discussed here. The name Loramin must be changed.

[loramin]

Every time i see loramins smug posts i think of this medication. He clearly is in violation of the naming policy and must be CORRECTED.

Yes, corrected just like Phenyo should be, because Phenyo Mongala is a "famous" Kenyan soccer player!

... or wait, do you agree with me Phenyo? Obscure references for names are fine, but ones that everyone on the server will recognize aren't?

[Lulz~Sect]

I am so glad everyone is being cleansed. You should have followed the rules! God bless the staff.

[skarlorn]

It becomes less obscure the more it is discussed here. The name Loramin must be changed.

Sometimes sacrifices MUST be made for the greater good. Step up to the block.

[sunbask]

I am here to help you out, don't go down this rabbit hole my pal.

You got to remember one thing. It's their world, not ours.

Poke fun at it, have fun with it, but don't let your emotions get the best of you. :)

That was eerily ominous...

Like logging in at the bottom of a lava pit ominous...

[NachtMystium]

Just got a port from Dial A Port then reported their guild name for violation...no mercy.

I have a hotkey for petitioning %T in EC, pray your foolish names do not meet my gaze...

Nameslayers name was changed very quickly to Kagendik...this will not in any way hinder my name reporting frenzy.....

[skarlorn]

Just got a port from Dial A Port then reported their guild name for violation...no mercy.

I have a hotkey for petitioning %T in EC, pray your foolish names do not meet my gaze...

Nameslayers name was changed very quickly to Kagendik...this will not in any way hinder my name reporting frenzy.....

I learned last night that %t doesn't work in petitions.

be advised.

[Phenyo]

Yes, corrected just like Phenyo should be, because Phenyo Mongala is a "famous" Kenyan soccer player!

... or wait, do you agree with me Phenyo? Obscure references for names are fine, but ones that everyone on the server will recognize aren't?

Well no, its just a name and not a product or trademark. (also its just a forum account nice try!)

[Ciksharn]

Just got a port from Dial A Port then reported their guild name for violation...no mercy.

I have a hotkey for petitioning %T in EC, pray your foolish names do not meet my gaze...

Nameslayers name was changed very quickly to Kagendik...this will not in any way hinder my name reporting frenzy.....

You are a fine gentleman.

[Lhancelot]

I wish I hadn't either (had no idea it was a drug name before this whole conversation started).

But you didn't answer my question. Loramin, the drug name, is extremely obscure: as I said my character shows up three times on the first page when you google it. 99% of all players do not see "Loramin" and think "that's a marketing alias of the drug ___" ... they'll think it's a fantasy name. However, 99% of players who see "Winchester" will think of the gun, family, mystery house, etc.

So again, I ask: what's your problem with banning names that obviously mean something non-EQ to most people? If you honestly believe people should be able to have names that clearly mean something non-EQ-related, just say so.

I just think a little empathy goes a long way, and the way some people antagonized others when it first went down was retarded.

I don't know if there could have been a way to start implementing it this late without it ruffling a lot of feathers, and as I said before p99 staff have no obligation to explain what they do when they do it etc., but that doesn't mean it's necessary to antagonize people over it.

At this point, I think most have determined how they will deal with this change, it's not so shocking to us, we have adapted and processed the fact names got changed and I personally can have fun with it, even though I don't particularly care for how it was done.

If you need an answer regarding "Winchester," I honestly don't think of a gun when I see the name. The name is a surname of common, ordinary people, I see no problem with it being used as a name for a player character in a fantasy game.

I also do not see a problem with Loramin, but the name is literally scripted across drug boxes and I am sure it also has a copyright infringement agreement with it's usage, but I suppose since it's not a famous drug like Motrin it doesn't matter then, right?

I find it a bit hypocritical for you to take this stance, but understand why you do so too, regarding why you think "Winchester" should not be allowed as a name here yet "Loramin" should be fine.

[Pokesan]

knight vs knight pvp

how droll

[Jimjam]

no.

Winchester literally means the fortified town of awesomeness (winning)!

[NachtMystium]

I learned last night that %t doesn't work in petitions.

be advised.

Hmm, it seems to be working correctly on my screen unless it translates differently to the GMs.. shortly after this picture was taken, Kagendic was banned for reporting names I assume... What did the GMs mean by this?

https://i.imgur.com/8ttATeA.png

I must take a different approach, rather than rapid fire petitioning I will create a list and inform the violater that their name WILL be purged soon and report them in batches... I will continue to refine my methods until the scum is completely eradicated.

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/8ttATeA.png

Like a well-oiled machine I see.

[loramin]

I also do not see a problem with Loramin, but the name is literally scripted across drug boxes and I am sure it also has a copyright infringement agreement with it's usage, but I suppose since it's not a famous drug like Motrin it doesn't matter then, right?

There are a lot of obscure names in use all of the world. Like only considering trademarks you've got a hundred ... thousand ... every quarter ,,, in the USPTO alone. If you want to ban every trademark yo're looking at 100k names being removed every quarter from P99, just from American trademarks (not counting global trademarks or other forms of American IP).

The point of the naming policy is not to blindly prevent anyone from naming a character from ever using a name previously used somewhere in human history. That doesn't do anyone any good. The point of the policy is to make it so that when you're playing your elf sim with your elf buddies Skarlorn and Phenyo, you don't have your immersion broken when Pap Smear joins your group .,. because you, Phenyo, and Skarlorn all think of an uncomfortable process a woman has to undergo when she's pregnant when they see that name.

But if "Thoracic" wants to join your group, it's not going to have that immersion breaking effect, because "Endoscopic Thoracic Sympathectomy" is not a common procedure that would break most people out of their elf sim world.

It's 100% legitimate to hold the opinion "I should be able to have a character named Machine Gun", and it's 100% legitimate to think "any name that anyone can prove was ever used anywhere ever should be banned". I wouldn't agree with either, but they're legit, logically defensible positions. But anyone who wants to pretend like they can't differentiate between names 99% of the server would recognize and names 99% of the server wouldn't is just trolling.

P.S.
I just think a little empathy goes a long way, and the way some people antagonized others when it first went down was retarded.

In this much we are agreed: whatever pleasure some of us might get (from P99 becoming closer to the way we remember it on live) by enforcing the rules does not necessitate a bunch of schadenfreude over people losing names they've had for half a decade or more.

[Ciksharn]

Hmm, it seems to be working correctly on my screen unless it translates differently to the GMs.. shortly after this picture was taken, Kagendic was banned for reporting names I assume...

So helping police the server is a bannable offense? Can we get some clarification on this llandris? We are trying to help

[branamil]

If a character with a so called "naming violation" is a level 1 or level 5 then who cares. But if it's a level 60 with 5 years played time... You need to have a conversation with that person before randomly changing their name because...

1 - Randomly tampering with something that someone has invested a lot of time, and offering no recourse, in is bizarre and unsympathetic. It's like telling someone to paint a picture, and 5 years later you make an ugly blue paint smear across the whole thing. And if they complain, you tell them you'll burn the whole thing. So you better tell them how lovely their blue smear is.

2 - A lot of these "violations" are a huge gray area and you need to err on the side of caution, because people have invested time into these names.

3 - If you're just relying on player petitions .. you may not be considering whether the petitioner is has a vendetta or just wants to grief someone.

*not personally affected by these changes. Just arguing on behalf of the downtrodden.

[NachtMystium]

Nameslayer has been suspended and reincarnated as "Morsnomine" latin for Name Death. Phase 2 begins now

My hotkey informs and notes down the offenders name in one keystroke...I will report the names in batches, you have been warned.

[Lhancelot]

If a character with a so called "naming violation" is a level 1 or level 5 then who cares. But if it's a level 60 with 5 years played time... You need to have a conversation with that person before randomly changing their name because...

1 - Randomly tampering with something that someone has invested a lot of time, and offering no recourse, in is bizarre and unsympathetic. It's like telling someone to paint a picture, and 5 years later you make an ugly blue paint smear across the whole thing. And if they complain, you tell them you'll burn the whole thing. So you better tell them how lovely their blue smear is.

2 - A lot of these "violations" are a huge gray area and you need to err on the side of caution, because people have invested time into these names.

3 - If you're just relying on player petitions .. you may not be considering whether the petitioner is has a vendetta or just wants to grief someone.

*not personally affected by these changes. Just arguing on behalf of the downtrodden.

Exactly this. ^

I have not even had a name changed yet, and I can sympathize with those who have had a name they identified with for years instantaneously wiped off then replaced with some generic name like "Arleigh."

Hey Loramin, let's say they changed your name a day ago before Llandris posted that they were doing so, say you log in to play Loramin, and find your character now with the name "Himpuh" or some other name which you have absolutely no connection to, would you simply say, "oh well hey I understand, it was found inappropriate and I am just fine that it got wiped off." Time to log in and play now!

No you would not.

People are not being "whiny-asses" as you said when they are upset that their long established names have been wiped off, and even with justification now as to why the names have been wiped off, it still doesn't make it less hurtful to these players.

[Ciksharn]

If a character with a so called "naming violation" is a level 1 or level 5 then who cares. But if it's a level 60 with 5 years played time... You need to have a conversation with that person before randomly changing their name because...

1 - Randomly tampering with something that someone has invested a lot of time, and offering no recourse, in is bizarre and unsympathetic. It's like telling someone to paint a picture, and 5 years later you make an ugly blue paint smear across the whole thing. And if they complain, you tell them you'll burn the whole thing. So you better tell them how lovely their blue smear is.

2 - A lot of these "violations" are a huge gray area and you need to err on the side of caution, because people have invested time into these names.

3 - If you're just relying on player petitions .. you may not be considering whether the petitioner is has a vendetta or just wants to grief someone.

*not personally affected by these changes. Just arguing on behalf of the downtrodden.

You're trying to introduce gray area where it doesn't exist. The rules are clearly laid out and if you've been in violation of them 5 minutes or 5 years you are subject to the consequences. Your post reminds me of a liberal rant offering no facts or details just citing your opinion as truth.

[skarlorn]

Hmm, it seems to be working correctly on my screen unless it translates differently to the GMs.. shortly after this picture was taken, Kagendic was banned for reporting names I assume... What did the GMs mean by this?

https://i.imgur.com/8ttATeA.png

I must take a different approach, rather than rapid fire petitioning I will create a list and inform the violater that their name WILL be purged soon and report them in batches... I will continue to refine my methods until the scum is completely eradicated.

I admire your work and fervor.

What's important is to not turn this into a shitfest for the staff.

Let me clue you boys in to my methods of handing over the ILLEGALs to our Police.

First, upon zone in, I announce to the zone that I am going to be reporting anyone with an ILLEGAL name. I offer people the chance to step forward...

It's fair to only petition people who you see face to face. So you have to find them. I like shouting about what part of the zone I'm in to increase the feeling of dread as I approach with my LIST in hand.

When I see someone, I give them a chance to explain themselves. A couple of people have actually given good RP reasons for their name and so my immersions were safe. Add everyone else to the LIST.

Do NOT petition each person individually.

%T does NOT work in the petitions, the GMs don't get the data.

Make a list of names and then petition them all at once; or create a list in the Petitions/Forum section.

Keep in mind that staff are busy with probably more important petitions and if you spam them with 20 new tickets, it's going to be the equivalent of trolling them. The staff wants to change the names, but you need to help them in a way that isn't super fucking annoying and also presents them with data in an easy to find format when they are bored and have a few minutes to CLEANSE norrath.

[NachtMystium]

I admire your work and fervor.

What's important is to not turn this into a shitfest for the staff.

Let me clue you boys in to my methods of handing over the ILLEGALs to our Police.

First, upon zone in, I announce to the zone that I am going to be reporting anyone with an ILLEGAL name. I offer people the chance to step forward...

It's fair to only petition people who you see face to face. So you have to find them. I like shouting about what part of the zone I'm in to increase the feeling of dread as I approach with my LIST in hand.

When I see someone, I give them a chance to explain themselves. A couple of people have actually given good RP reasons for their name and so my immersions were safe. Add everyone else to the LIST.

Do NOT petition each person individually.

%T does NOT work in the petitions, the GMs don't get the data.

Make a list of names and then petition them all at once; or create a list in the Petitions/Forum section.

Keep in mind that staff are busy with probably more important petitions and if you spam them with 20 new tickets, it's going to be the equivalent of trolling them. The staff wants to change the names, but you need to help them in a way that isn't super fucking annoying and also presents them with data in an easy to find format when they are bored and have a few minutes to CLEANSE norrath.


Pras. Skarlorn, get a guild in order and let's recruit name slayers

[skarlorn]

Nameslayer has been suspended and reincarnated as "Morsnomine" latin for Name Death. Phase 2 begins now

My hotkey informs and notes down the offenders name in one keystroke...I will report the names in batches, you have been warned.

I highly suggest you use the emote /e observes %t's name and notes it in a paper-backed binder.

if all of us Snitches use the same emote, it's going to have a biG and POWERFUl effect.

[Lhancelot]

I admire your work and fervor.

What's important is to not turn this into a shitfest for the staff.

Let me clue you boys in to my methods of handing over the ILLEGALs to our Police.

First, upon zone in, I announce to the zone that I am going to be reporting anyone with an ILLEGAL name. I offer people the chance to step forward...

It's fair to only petition people who you see face to face. So you have to find them. I like shouting about what part of the zone I'm in to increase the feeling of dread as I approach with my LIST in hand.

When I see someone, I give them a chance to explain themselves. A couple of people have actually given good RP reasons for their name and so my immersions were safe. Add everyone else to the LIST.

Do NOT petition each person individually.

%T does NOT work in the petitions, the GMs don't get the data.

Make a list of names and then petition them all at once; or create a list in the Petitions/Forum section.

Keep in mind that staff are busy with probably more important petitions and if you spam them with 20 new tickets, it's going to be the equivalent of trolling them. The staff wants to change the names, but you need to help them in a way that isn't super fucking annoying and also presents them with data in an easy to find format when they are bored and have a few minutes to CLEANSE norrath.

I feel like you are encroaching on Baler's coattails here, man.

This is pretty much exactly what his original list was in server chat. You better get permission before you start leeching his material. Just sayin'.

[Jimjam]

You can bind paste from clipboard to a key in EQ, this way you can just ctrl+c, ctrl+v your list of names into a report?

[Ciksharn]

Exactly this. ^

I have not even had a name changed yet, and I can sympathize with those who have had a name they identified with for years instantaneously wiped off then replaced with some generic name like "Arleigh."

Hey Loramin, let's say they changed your name a day ago before Llandris posted that they were doing so, say you log in to play Loramin, and find your character now with the name "Himpuh" or some other name which you have absolutely no connection to, would you simply say, "oh well hey I understand, it was found inappropriate and I am just fine that it got wiped off." Time to log in and play now!

No you would not.

People are not being "whiny-asses" as you said when they are upset that their long established names have been wiped off, and even with justification now as to why the names have been wiped off, it still doesn't make it less hurtful to these players.

If they knowingly violated server rules why should sympathy be shown? I understand there may have been an emotional attachment but if you get emotionally attached to robbing banks the authorities don't have to go light on you. We have no evidence that I've seen posted suggesting they are getting rid of names that are not blatantly in violation of the policy as written. If so please provide proof and you may sway my opinion. Otherwise better late than never on rule enforcement. The rules are in place for a reason.

[Yoink1986]

Lotta SJWs on here feeling high and might ��

[skarlorn]

If they knowingly violated server rules why should sympathy be shown? I understand there may have been an emotional attachment but if you get emotionally attached to robbing banks the authorities don't have to go light on you. Better late than never on rule enforcement. The rules are in place for a reason.

muhimmersions

[loramin]

Hey Loramin, let's say they changed your name a day ago before Llandris posted that they were doing so, say you log in to play Loramin, and find your character now with the name "Himpuh" or some other name which you have absolutely no connection to, would you simply say, "oh well hey I understand, it was found inappropriate and I am just fine that it got wiped off." Time to log in and play now!

No you would not.

That's kind of like asking "well how would you like it if you were in jail for cow tipping ...". Well that's a hard hypothetical, because I never have and never would go cow tipping ... just like I've never created a name that violated the rules (despite having multiple accounts worth of alts to name). If I name a character after something, it's something extremely obscure, like an ancient greek novel, that 99% of people on the server would never have heard of.

But I do have empathy, and I have guild mates with some truly awful names who I consider to be friends. I'm sure it would suck for them to login and find their name changed. Would it be unexpected? No, the rules have always been there, they just got away with breaking them for a long time. But it would still suck for them, and I'd hope that the staff would let them pick a new (non-violating) name that they like so they could still enjoy playing their character.

[skarlorn]

Lotta SJWs on here feeling high and might ��

I think you don't understand the concept of SJW.

We are more like the Secret Police force of Stalin era Russia. I like to think of myself as the Name Gestapo. Hardly SJW.

[Phenyo]

I feel like you are encroaching on Baler's coattails here, man.

This is pretty much exactly what his original list was in server chat. You better get permission before you start leeching his material. Just sayin'.

This goes beyond personalities. This transcends egos. This isn't about filbus or baler or any other cuck, this is about making sure norrath is IMMERSIVE as possible.

[branamil]

You're trying to introduce gray area where it doesn't exist. The rules are clearly laid out and if you've been in violation of them 5 minutes or 5 years you are subject to the consequences. Your post reminds me of a liberal rant offering no facts or details just citing your opinion as truth.

I dunno why you're injecting conservative shill politics into your rant (probably cause your a deranged conspiracy theorist), but if you look at the list of banned names there's dozens that are really subjective.

[NachtMystium]

I highly suggest you use the emote /e observes %t's name and notes it in a paper-backed binder.

if all of us Snitches use the same emote, it's going to have a biG and POWERFUl effect.

Perfect, taking a break from forums for now and going to police the tunnel for a bit. See you soon.

[loramin]

You can bind paste from clipboard to a key in EQ, this way you can just ctrl+c, ctrl+v your list of names into a report?

I've been here how many years now, and yet I never managed to figure out how people copy/pasted into the game.

https://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif

Thanks!

[skarlorn]

This goes beyond personalities. This transcends egos. This isn't about filbus or baler or any other cuck, this is about making sure norrath is IMMERSIVE as possible.

I formally invite any Righteous Crusader of the Name Registrar Inquisitorial Squad to hand over their LIST in a PM to me at the end of your Elf-Work day. I will add your efforts to the List which is an ongoing, developing organism currently cultivating mass under my watch in the Petitions Forum. This will reduce duplicity for the staff and make sure that ALL names are receiving EQUAL attention. I kindly await your ledgers.

[Lhancelot]

If they knowingly violated server rules why should sympathy be shown? I understand there may have been an emotional attachment but if you get emotionally attached to robbing banks the authorities don't have to go light on you. We have no evidence that I've seen posted suggesting they are getting rid of names that are not blatantly in violation of the policy as written. If so please provide proof and you may sway my opinion. Otherwise better late than never on rule enforcement. The rules are in place for a reason.

Everyone understands what the rule is, the fact of the matter is it was not implemented for YEARS.

You don't understand how someone that has invested 7 years of their life on a character, enjoyed that name for 7 years would be upset when the name is suddenly wiped off and replaced with a random generic name?

Hey fine, if you can't relate to that I can't help you out anymore than how I explained it here. :p

Oh, I bet I sound like some whiny liberal too, right? rofl at interjecting political stances into an argument about elf names and whether or not they are within violation of the naming policy. hahaha. :)

[Ciksharn]

This goes beyond personalities. This transcends egos. This isn't about filbus or baler or any other cuck, this is about making sure norrath is IMMERSIVE as possible.

I want to get lost in exploring the karanas and go on adventures exploring treasure filled dungeons. I do not want to watch a guy named Winchester playing with his pretend rifle in a mystery manor. I can play oragon trail for this

[Ciksharn]

I dunno why you're injecting conservative shill politics into your rant (probably cause your a deranged conspiracy theorist), but if you look at the list of banned names there's dozens that are really subjective.

Please provide the list and said names. You continue to argue without the use of data or facts

[Ciksharn]

Everyone understands what the rule is, the fact of the matter is it was not implemented for YEARS.

You don't understand how someone that has invested 7 years of their life on a character, enjoyed that name for 7 years would be upset when the name is suddenly wiped off and replaced with a random generic name?

Hey fine, if you can't relate to that I can't help you out anymore than how I explained it here. :p

What if you didn't understand robbing banks was bad? The rules are clearly posted and accessible. They are in fact in the exact same location as how to install the client and play on the server. I'm not saying if this happened to me I would not be upset. I'm saying if this happened to me regardless of emotion I broke the rule and am subject to it's punishment.

[Yoink1986]

So what your saying is you want to change someone’s name that doesn’t change your eq experience just to make you feel warm and fuzzy.

[branamil]

Please provide the list and said names. You continue to argue without the use of data or facts

Please list of every banned name, and your explanation of *exactly* how it violates the naming policy. If you can't do this, we will assume I am right and there are many names that are subjective. Thanks :)

[Lhancelot]

What if you didn't understand robbing banks was bad? The rules are clearly posted and accessible. They are in fact in the exact same location as how to install the client and play on the server. I'm not saying if this happened to me I would not be upset. I'm saying if this happened to me regardless of emotion I broke the rule and am subject to it's punishment.

Some names were awful and clearly should have been changed.

Some names have not been changed and clearly need to be.

Some names seem to have been fine by all accounts but got changed.

Do you see the problem here? It's pretty clear to me why this sudden enforcement of the naming policy has been such a mess.

[Ciksharn]

Some names were awful and clearly should have been changed.

Some names have not been changed and clearly need to be.

Some names seem to have been fine by all accounts but got changed.

Do you see the problem here? It's pretty clear to me why this sudden enforcement of the naming policy has been such a mess.

Do we have a list or example of a name that is clearly not in violation of policy but has been changed? This keeps being referenced but we have 0 data showing that it actually happened

[Jimjam]

I feel like you are encroaching on Baler's coattails here, man.

This is pretty much exactly what his original list was in server chat. You better get permission before you start leeching his material. Just sayin'.
So is Baler a new staff member, or did the staff member responsible for the bannening just not have the time to flick thru the thread for any additional contributions.

[Ciksharn]

Please list of every banned name, and your explanation of *exactly* how it violates the naming policy. If you can't do this, we will assume I am right and there are many names that are subjective. Thanks :)

That's up to the gms. You are the one stating they are doing a bad job but can't provide examples. Please stop posting as I will no longer be responding

[skarlorn]

Please list of every banned name, and your explanation of *exactly* how it violates the naming policy. If you can't do this, we will assume I am right and there are many names that are subjective. Thanks :)

Here's my list after 1 Inquisitorial Session last night. Since it's been requested by the public.

Resisted Arrest:
Dinoknight
Surpunss
Blotch Spots
Womblord (my name)
Platwhore (my name)
Lennylizard
Ringjumper
Buddybear
Heavvy Duuty
Goatwoman
Numlock Makesmewalk
Lunie Tunes

Some are obviously more egregious than others. Lunie Tunes is an abomination, but also a level 60 bard. It MUST be cleansed. The only name on that list that I think deserves a potential pardon is Goatwoman. Had she responded to me in RP I certainly would have accepted it as the name of a peasant from Freeport selling goats in EC.

[branamil]

That's up to the gms. You are the one stating they are doing a bad job but can't provide examples. Please stop posting as I will no longer be responding

You aren't able to back up your argument with explanations. "Please stop posting." Is this your way of conceding and exiting gracefully. Well, bye :)

[ghimmhala]

I was asked by a GM to stop petitioning names

yea why be asshats and fuck others over...

[Ciksharn]

yea why be asshats and fuck others over...

Why knowingly violate server policy then rage about it on the forums?

[skarlorn]

yea why be asshats and fuck others over...

I sincerely and wholeheartedly care about increasing the Roleplay immersions on the project 1999 EverQuest server and am willing to not only destroy others, but to destroy myself, in order to achieve this venerable goal.