Name Changes

[Barcelona]

Just got a port from Dial A Port then reported their guild name for violation...no mercy.

I have a hotkey for petitioning %T in EC, pray your foolish names do not meet my gaze...

Nameslayers name was changed very quickly to Kagendik...this will not in any way hinder my name reporting frenzy.....

This This This!! 100% this.

Arguably the most immersion ruining Guild name on the server, Kittens is a close second though!!

Dial?? Really, in a fantasy based world.

I can't wait for the gnomish invention arguments!

[NachtMystium]

Update: Morsnomine has been banned as well, I believe for saying names WILL be purged, it was taken that I was impersonating staff even though I stated I was not staff and I am just creating an Illegal Registry.

Phase 3 will begin shortly with different wording. I've already compiled quite the list

[ghimmhala]

Why knowingly violate server policy then rage about it on the forums?

I'm not in Violations of rules at all but purposely reporting peoples names cause your name got changed is just a dick thing to do. Let the GM's take care of the problem. Oh and this kinda of mass name change would have never happen on live back in classic or now...

[Ciksharn]

I'm not in Violations of rules at all but purposely reporting peoples names cause your name got changed is just a dick thing to do. Let the GM's take care of the problem. Oh and this kinda of mass name change would have never happen on live back in classic or now...

My name didn't get changed. Just helping out the great people who put this server together for us to enjoy

[hugoslavia]

Do we have a list or example of a name that is clearly not in violation of policy but has been changed? This keeps being referenced but we have 0 data showing that it actually happened

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[Phenyo]

I'm not in Violations of rules at all but purposely reporting peoples names cause your name got changed is just a dick thing to do. Let the GM's take care of the problem. Oh and this kinda of mass name change would have never happen on live back in classic or now...

None of my character names were changed because i am an upstanding citizen of norrath. I'm just doing my civic duty for a better, brighter future.

[Lhancelot]

Here's my list after 1 Inquisitorial Session last night. Since it's been requested by the public.



Some are obviously more egregious than others. Lunie Tunes is an abomination, but also a level 60 bard. It MUST be cleansed. The only name on that list that I think deserves a potential pardon is Goatwoman. Had she responded to me in RP I certainly would have accepted it as the name of a peasant from Freeport selling goats in EC.

Ringjumper is fine.

[Ciksharn]

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I would agree that per the rules this does not appear to violate anything however the rules also state "The server staff can, in accordance with all described rules and ultimate discretion" so it's still their call.

[hugoslavia]

I would agree that per the rules this does not appear to violate anything however the rules also state "The server staff can, in accordance with all described rules and ultimate discretion" so it's still their call.


If a character with a so called "naming violation" is a level 1 or level 5 then who cares. But if it's a level 60 with 5 years played time... You need to have a conversation with that person before randomly changing their name because...

1 - Randomly tampering with something that someone has invested a lot of time, and offering no recourse, in is bizarre and unsympathetic. It's like telling someone to paint a picture, and 5 years later you make an ugly blue paint smear across the whole thing. And if they complain, you tell them you'll burn the whole thing. So you better tell them how lovely their blue smear is.

2 - A lot of these "violations" are a huge gray area and you need to err on the side of caution, because people have invested time into these names.

3 - If you're just relying on player petitions .. you may not be considering whether the petitioner is has a vendetta or just wants to grief someone.

*not personally affected by these changes. Just arguing on behalf of the downtrodden.
You're trying to introduce gray area where it doesn't exist. The rules are clearly laid out and if you've been in violation of them 5 minutes or 5 years you are subject to the consequences. Your post reminds me of a liberal rant offering no facts or details just citing your opinion as truth.

You've just contradicted your argument about "trying to introduce gray area where it doesn't exist." I'm personally not opposed to names being changed, but I couldn't agree more with branamil's point that it could have been handled with more tact.

It doesn't send a very good message when names are changed that don't appear to violate the naming policy at all.

[NachtMystium]

Okay, now I'm really puzzled. I was just banned immediately after shouting in EC that I was going to note names that violate the naming policy and report them to the staff. What did they mean by this? I guess I'll just have to not warn people beforehand now and do it incognito.

[Ciksharn]

You've just contradicted your argument about "trying to introduce gray area where it doesn't exist." I'm personally not opposed to names being changed, but I couldn't agree more with branamil's point that it could have been handled with more tact.

It doesn't send a very good message when names are changed that don't appear to violate the naming policy at all.

4.16 The Project 1999 Naming Policy

Character names in EverQuest should be thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest

You can't role play as an elephant. Rule broken name changed. I'd like to retract my original statement that this is not a violation as it clearly is. I'd also like to apologize to everyone for my original oversight and look forward to continually immersing our server.

[khanable]

You can't role play as an elephant. Rule broken name changed. I'd like to retract my original statement that this is not a violation as it clearly is. I'd also like to apologize to everyone for my original oversight and look forward to continually immersing our server.

Who says? Guy might spend all day in south karana courting bull elephants.

[skarlorn]

Who says? Guy might spend all day in south karana courting bull elephants.

That's why I give everyone a good chance to tell me their RP reason before I add them to THE LIST.

[NachtMystium]

https://i.imgur.com/ecLjDc5.png

[Ciksharn]

Who says? Guy might spend all day in south karana courting bull elephants.

Llandris says. See list of changed names

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/nIFHgF8.png

*hands tremble with Righteous Conviction and Joy*

[Ciksharn]

https://i.imgur.com/nIFHgF8.png

*hands tremble with Righteous Conviction and Joy*

You have truely bwen sent by solsek ro to do his work. Thank you

[Barcelona]

I do not know this Mauricio guy, but I would also like to provide this reference in an attempt to help Mauricio get his character name Winchester reinstated.


These guidelines apply both forenames and surnames, and also to the combination produced by a forename and surname. (For example, the first name Clint and the last name Eastwood are both acceptable names separately, but Clint Eastwood is not.)

As I am fairly certain the name Winchester could be a first name, and probably is to a number of people out there. Furthermore I have no doubt that this would have been a first name used in a similar medieval time that it is assumed that EverQuest adheres to.

According to this rule stipulation, the name Winchester should be reinstated, as it did not also contain a surname of Rifle, or Arms, or any variation thereof...

Thank you for your consideration.

[Ciksharn]

I do not know this Mauricio guy, but I would also like to provide this reference in an attempt to help Mauricio get his character name Winchester reinstated.



As I am fairly certain the name Winchester could be a first name, and probably is to a number of people out there. Furthermore I have no doubt that this would have been a first name used in a similar medieval time that it is assumed that EverQuest adheres to.

According to this rule stipulation, the name Winchester should be reinstated, as it did not also contain a surname of Rifle, or Arms, or any variation thereof...

Thank you for your consideration.
Please see the quote located in my signature as it directly pertains to your request

[Weidar]

Some nice stasi shit going on here, well done.

Knights who say ni needs to be reported immediately because that name belong to the Monty Phyton universe and not the Everquest universe.

Please erase them from the server.

Nothing personal here, just keeping the cleanse going.

[NachtMystium]

Some nice stasi shit going on here, well done.

Knights who say ni needs to be reported immediately because that name belong to the Monty Phyton universe and not the Everquest universe.

Please erase them from the server.

Nothing personal here, just keeping the cleanse going.

I am not impressed until they put their money where their mouth is and really follow through on the blatant violations such as Kittens, Knights, Dial etc. Why go after nobodies like Winchester first when you have huge violations like them ?

[loramin]

I googled Loramin and the first 4 posts were about the drug.

Right ... and then results 5-7 were for my toon, correct? Show me any real/non-obscure drug alias that has a MMOG character in even the top 100 results and maybe you'll have a point.

[Danth]

As I am fairly certain the name Winchester could be a first name.

Granted, ever since the yuppies got old enough to start having children pretty much anything can be a first name.


I want to report Lars and Ulrich McMannus for violating the naming policy due to the pop culture/singer reference. They're NPCs so I don't think they'll angrily post on the forum about it, unless the AI here is better than I thought.

Danth

[loramin]

You lied when you said googling Loramin the first results weren't the drug.

And I said that when exactly? This forum has a quote feature, which should make it really easy for you to answer. Show me when I said that the drug was not in the first results when you googled for Loramin.

What I actually said was something to the effect of "real drug aliases don't have MMOG characters on the first page of their search results".

[Danth]

And I said that when exactly? This forum has a quote feature, that should be easy to answer.

I hate everyone and want to watch the world burrrrrnnnnn!

Fun times with quotes. I think they're piling on you simply because you made the critical forum mistake of responding to 'em.

Danth

[Baler]

The amount of work loramin does on the wiki you should be thanking him. :mad:

If you want to rant and flame, do it in RnF, NOT server chat!

[loramin]

You are correct, I must have been blinded by your hypocrisy and read that Google post wrong.

You being on the fifth and sixth result means what exactly? Page 2 there's what seems to be posts for a WoW and LoL character named Loramin. What does this mean?

The answer is nothing. Your Google counterargument means absolutely nothing. You still have a name from a known and distributed drug, which is a violation.

Well I'm glad that you've retracted calling me a liar. My forum reputation has been defended!

As for the rest, you can young lawyer this nonsense all day long but it won't change the fact that 99.9% of the server has never heard of a drug called Loramin, but 99.9% of the server has heard of either a house or a rifle (or a famous family) called Winchester.

The naming policy is not something crazy or dictatorial. It's logical, well-spelled out, and serves a purpose: to let people trying to escape into a game do so (mostly) without obvious distractions ... just like they (mostly) were able to do back in `99.

[Evilbob]

This all reminds of me Communism and dictatorship.

[NachtMystium]

Well I'm glad that you've retracted calling me a liar. My forum reputation has been defended!

As for the rest, you can young lawyer this nonsense all day long but it won't change the fact that 99.9% of the server has never heard of a drug called Loramin, but 99.9% of the server has heard of either a house or a rifle (or a famous family) called Winchester.

The naming policy is not something crazy or dictatorial. It's logical, well-spelled out, and serves a purpose: to let people trying to escape into a game do so (mostly) without obvious distractions ... just like they (mostly) were able to do back in `99.

Yeah, I love how big guilds have been around forever broadcasting dumb names all around me and they go after nobodies like Winchester for the first to go in the big batch, where is the logic here?

[Evilbob]

Yeah, I love how big guilds have been around forever broadcasting dumb names all around me and they go after nobodies like Winchester for the first to go in the big batch, where is the logic here?

Are you on some sort of witch hunt? Go buy some lotion, check out pornhub and then stfu about your retarded name crusade. Let the GM's and Guides do their thing. All you're doing is harassing players. 80% of the server is in some sort of "violation" of the extremely strict and unrealistic naming policy.

[NachtMystium]

Are you on some sort of witch hunt? Go buy some lotion, check out pornhub and then stfu about your retarded name crusade. Let the GM's and Guides do their thing. All you're doing is harassing players. 80% of the server is in some sort of "violation" of the extremely strict and unrealistic naming policy.

Well you just laid out perfectly the problem with this whole retro naming correction...80% of the server is in some sort of violation...then why are they cracking down on only a few of them?

[Evilbob]

Well you just laid out perfectly the problem with this whole retro naming correction...80% of the server is in some sort of violation...then why are they cracking down on only a few of them?

Probably because they have better things to do than spend all day changing names? "A few of them" is probably the extreme names that needed changed. This server has been around a very very long time and names in mass haven't been a huge problem, lets not make it that way. Give it a rest. They're names, nothing more.

[NachtMystium]

Probably because they have better things to do than spend all day changing names? "A few of them" is probably the extreme names that needed changed. This server has been around a very very long time and names in mass haven't been a huge problem, lets not make it that way. Give it a rest. They're names, nothing more.

Yeah, how would you feel if you had a character name that wasn't offensive but slightly bending the rules that you've had for 8 years and you log in and it's changed to Winaar?

They're not just names, it's time invested into a character. The name policy has always been pretty lax, did they really think that the sudden change wouldn't cause some fuss? Surely not, they knew it would, but honestly the question is WHY? Why would they want this burden of drama over something so trivial as minor violating names? I'll tell you why it's happening.

Filbus and Baler are kind of like puppeteers and have won favour and have charmed the GMs into Filbus' roleplay name registrar game which I've joined in on out of spite(most fun i've had in a long time on p99), and Baler's extreme autism. The names weren't chosen at random, they were handpicked and delivered.

So, I am HOPING in the next wave we get rid of all the big fish to cause some REAL entertainment

[Barcelona]

..This server has been around a very very long time and names in mass haven't been a huge problem, lets not make it that way. Give it a rest. They're names, nothing more.

Yeah you're right, who cares about all these name changes after 5-8 years of being on the server.

What's in a name.

A beard on the neck of a player of a character with any other name is just as hairy.

[Evilbob]

If you're hoping to end the problem BECOMING the problem isn't a very bright solution.

[Expediency]

Well I'm glad that you've retracted calling me a liar. My forum reputation has been defended!

As for the rest, you can young lawyer this nonsense all day long but it won't change the fact that 99.9% of the server has never heard of a drug called Loramin, but 99.9% of the server has heard of either a house or a rifle (or a famous family) called Winchester.

The naming policy is not something crazy or dictatorial. It's logical, well-spelled out, and serves a purpose: to let people trying to escape into a game do so (mostly) without obvious distractions ... just like they (mostly) were able to do back in `99.

I'm sorry, I think you are nice player and probably had no ill intent when making your name, but it is clearly in violation of the following rule:

Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

Evidence:

https://www.zaubacorp.com/trademark/LORAMIN/747206
http://okpharma.com.tr/portfolio-item/loramin/
https://www.wdrugs.com/#What%20is%20Loramin

If that first link is correct you should probably submit a letter of apology to the colgate-palmolive corporation, who registered the US trademark for "loramin" in march of 1974.

All your spin about "99/100 people wouldnt know" and "show me a non obscure reference" are absolutely irrelevant to p99's rules. Intent, etc, are not listed as considerations. Had "Loramin" been copyrighted after the launch of EQ you may have a grandfather clause case but 1974 is a hard sell.

[NachtMystium]

If you're hoping to end the problem BECOMING the problem isn't a very bright solution.

I have no hope to end any problems around here, the only hope I have is getting some entertainment out of whatever is going on :)

[jakerees]

The name Loramin should not exist in Norrath. Cleanse it. No one is above the rules.

[skarlorn]

The name Loramin should not exist in Norrath. Cleanse it. No one is above the rules.

[NachtMystium]

The name Loramin should not exist in Norrath. Cleanse it. No one is above the rules.

[Lhancelot]

Filbus and Baler are kind of like puppeteers and have won favour and have charmed the GMs into Filbus' roleplay name registrar game which I've joined in on out of spite(most fun i've had in a long time on p99), and Baler's extreme autism. The names weren't chosen at random, they were handpicked and delivered.

So, I am HOPING in the next wave we get rid of all the big fish to cause some REAL entertainment

You give Baler and Skarlorn far too much credit here regarding the name policy stuff. The staff changed names, none of us know the real reason why. It had nothing to do with Baler's year-ago-thread where he and many others (myself included) added names to his "list" for fun (or for hate as he did.)

Baler just celebrates the sadness of other players because he is a miserable envious creature who blames everyone else for his unhappiness and for the banishment of his elf lover Swish getting perma-banned off the forums.

Skarlorn is just doing what he always does; masterfully puppets the crowd, including Baler who laps up any attention Skarlorn throws his way.

Can't blame him though, Skarlorn is very charming and holds the high social status on the forums Baler wishes he had himself. Baler pines away every night hoping one day he can be so popular on the elf forums. :o

I feel pity for Baler, because he's a puppet and doesn't even realize it. :p

As for Skarlorn, his trolling is intelligent and calculated and if you sit back and watch the entire episode from afar everyone has been quite predictable including him too. I believe his part to be just a ploy to whip up all the elfs on the forums into a frenzy for shits and giggles.

I do agree that it will be interesting to see if some of the better known players on the server who raid and have a lot of affluence on the server get their names wiped. I still see some of the same people with names clearly violating the policy, so we shall see!

[Pokesan]

If you're hoping to end the problem BECOMING the problem isn't a very bright solution.

actually accelerationism is the only way

T R U M P

[Phenyo]

The name Loramin should not exist in Norrath. Cleanse it. No one is above the rules.

[Geomance22]

kittens will be the actual issue which will show if the staff are serious about this or not, absolutely immersion shattering

[skarlorn]

You misunderstand me, Lhance. I am simply a man who cares deeply for role play immersion. I prostrate myself before the lord of immersion and hope for the slightest glimpse of enlightenment in the flames of self immolation which spread from my self reported toon onto the populace of norrath as a wildfire must consume the dry brush

[Pokesan]

You give Baler and Skarlorn far too much credit here regarding the name policy stuff. The staff changed names, none of us know the real reason why. It had nothing to do with Baler's year-ago-thread where he and many others (myself included) added names to his "list" for fun (or for hate as he did.)


my one name that got changed was on balers list

you underestimate his power

[Nisse]

<Kittens Who Ruin Immersion>

[NachtMystium]

The lenses have been re-focused...nitpicking on minor names of nobodies in the crowd who probably had a lot of time invested in their character and letting big boys slide like Detoxx, kittens, etc. while I understand it's frankly a free project and the staff are not obligated to do anything at all, it can still be criticized as just a bad practice and poor taste. The current state of P99 is pretty devolved from what it originally was, not really due to staff, but to the players who created this environment and the staff have to deal with it.

[Rerfu]

Maybe its the writer in me but I'm imagining name snitch going on a RL crusade... Apple sorry you can't have that name please report to the SS office... Mercedes and Lexus you too sorry.

[Utmost]

Loramin, have it changed to Lotrimin. Might not burn as much.

[fastboy21]

kittens will be the actual issue which will show if the staff are serious about this or not, absolutely immersion shattering

What about the Kittens name actually objectively breaks the rules? Its perfectly reasonable for the staff to decide that it is appropriate within their posted rules.

Is it that you believe the name isn't conducive to the fantasy immersion? What about it, objectively, violates this? Not only that, but there were plenty of guilds with comical names on live (Cats in Hats --- comes to mind as very close to Kittens) that were never an issue. You can be both comical and not break fantasy immersion...its a subjective judgement that the staff makes.

Is it that it is a spoof on Knights Who Say Ni? Somewhat more on point, but not a direct hit.

Bottom line, Kittens Who Say Meow don't bother anyone on p99. They have been around almost from the beginning and pretty fun easy going folks. Considering all the toxic BS that does raise the ire of the staff on a daily basis they shouldn't spend one iota of their time on Kittens.

[Ciksharn]

Loramin, have it changed to Lotrimin. Might not burn as much.

Pharmacy jokes. Nice

[NachtMystium]

Is it that it is a spoof on Knights Who Say Ni? Somewhat more on point, but not a direct hit.

Bottom line, Kittens Who Say Meow don't bother anyone on p99. They have been around almost from the beginning and pretty fun easy going folks. Considering all the toxic BS that does raise the ire of the staff on a daily basis they shouldn't spend one iota of their time on Kittens.

As a spoof of a guild who is also in questionable violation it is, quite in fact, a direct hit. The original guild is unoriginal and a direct ripoff from the actual original idea from a famous movie.

But technically speaking, there isn't an actual "Guild Name Policy" and in the absence of an actual "Guild Name Policy" I would assume these guilds would be at the mercy of when they submit the name, it would be approved, thus qualifying at the approval by the GMs.

Having said that, I've had guild names rejected due to policies outlined by the "Character Naming Policy". I tried to make a guild called <Pale Folklore> which is a somewhat obscure album name, that was designated for just one character. It was rejected for being related to popular media.

All this proves is just inconsistency and this being a free project, any actual "rule" of this server is ultimately decided upon by the hands that be, despite any contradictory or "unfair" result. A lot of people will confuse this point and try to compare P99 to an actual business or some entity that owes something to it's consumers.

It sucks, and I'm happy that we are at least allowed to say that it sucks without fear of being banned, but it's just the way it is around here.

Edit: To add to this and to specifically address your point of Kittens not bothering anyone.. neither were a lot of people(Winchester, Stockmarket) either. So by culling the nobodies who weren't bothering anyone, how can you not expect some sort of bitterness by these people in direction toward big names like Kittens?

[skarlorn]

Kittens is a terrible guild name and should be Cleansed

[NachtMystium]

Kittens is a terrible guild name and should be Cleansed

[skarlorn]

I wish I had more of my own toons to petition

[Cambiant]

Petition Baler as the name is a clear violation and affront to the ~400 Filipinos who died for a free Baler. The flames await, stay strong through the sacrifice for a better Norrath. I encourage you to petition tonight and leave your integrity and the integrity of this movement intact.

[skarlorn]

Sadly, it's too far of a stretch or I would put him on the List, too.

[Nagoya]

http://www.transports-lia.fr/presentation/?rub_code=36

Fil'Bus is a Le Havre public transportation system name, on which your name is obviously based. As a frenchman, this ruins my immersion everytime i see your stupid bus-line name running around.

[NachtMystium]

http://www.transports-lia.fr/presentation/?rub_code=36

Fil'Bus is a Le Havre public transportation system name, on which your name is obviously based. As a frenchman, this ruins my immersion everytime i see your stupid bus-line name running around.

I'm sorry Filbus, but the law is above all. With your fervor on self-sacrifice, I'm sure you will understand and do the right thing... You know what you must do. *Eyes the paper backed binder*

[Pokesan]

https://i.imgur.com/mufYyMs.jpg?1

[Cambiant]

Too far of a stretch? It's a pretty simple google search and overview of first few lines of the name policy.

Filbus Furyfoot, despite your lovely memes and charming banter you have proven yourself a partisan charlatan of this movement. Have some self-respect and step aside sir. The doors of the Church of Rallos Zek are hereby closed to you and all toasts shall cease regardless of prizes that would very much enhance my EQ experience. FOR SHAME.

[skarlorn]

Rallos has been closed to me since Filbus was born. If your lore into the Filipino town of Baler offends you I cannot stop you adding it to your list.

[SunDrake]

If Winchester [great name, does not break immersion] is changed, and Loramin [terrible name, and equally off-putting personality] remains, something is amiss.

[SunDrake]

To elaborate, I have always felt there is a privilege given to those who spend more time on the forums than in the game. Don't care how much you edit the Per-Level Hunting Guide [thanks for that, though, Loramin]

[Lhancelot]

To elaborate, I have always felt there is a privilege given to those who spend more time on the forums than in the game. Don't care how much you edit the Per-Level Hunting Guide [thanks for that, though, Loramin]

I have always felt there is a privilege given to those who spend more time raiding in the game than to those who did not raid.

It's funny how people on different sides of the track feel exactly the same as one another, yet think they are so different!

That being said, I don't think Loramin has an awful personality or is nasty, I just think his love of his own name has blinded him from reasonable thinking in this circumstance.

[Ennewi]

Petitioning to have Project1999's blue and red server names changed to a god or npc of Norrath.

[Lhancelot]

my one name that got changed was on balers list

you underestimate his power

https://i.imgur.com/ewDP9Tw.gif

[Lhancelot]

You misunderstand me, Lhance. I am simply a man who cares deeply for role play immersion. I prostrate myself before the lord of immersion and hope for the slightest glimpse of enlightenment in the flames of self immolation which spread from my self reported toon onto the populace of norrath as a wildfire must consume the dry brush

Do you even log in anymore? :D

[d3r14k]

Do you even log in anymore? :D

He logged in to hurt poor Merchant Nildar not too long ago.

We never forget...

[Spyder73]

WU'TANG FOREVER

[MiRo2]

Petitioning to have Project1999's blue and red server names changed to a god or npc of Norrath.

Seconded.

Potential candidates for new server names?

[Llandris]

The behavior in this thread and in game has been atrocious. It's completely understandable to be upset and/or frustrated, players grow attached to their characters' names and it can be devastating to lose your identity. We get it. But lashing out at staff members and sending threats is completely inexcusable. I created this thread in order to give direction to those who were affected in the last batch of name changes (and perhaps future ones). You are not stuck with your temporary name, you will get a chance to pick one of your choosing.

The naming policy has been around since 2010, so this should not be news to anyone who hasn't read the rules of the server (which we hope you read, prior to playing here). I'll be the first to admit that we have been pretty laid back when it came to names (unless they were offensive/vulgar) but I think we all can agree that it has gotten a little out of hand. We need to adhere to our own policies and apply them to everyone equally. Recent tools have allowed us to view certain names (without a que up) as well as add to the filter once it's changed. If you are wondering why your name was changed but another players name wasn't, you were not being targeted or singled out (as much as you guys like to think so). There is only a few of us, and thousands of players. We only have so many hours to donate per day.

On another note, we do not need players running around harassing others because of names. Leave the search for us, as it is our position to do so.

[Karthil]

The behavior in this thread and in game has been atrocious. It's completely understandable to be upset and/or frustrated, players grow attached to their characters' names and it can be devastating to lose your identity. We get it. But lashing out at staff members and sending threats is completely inexcusable. I created this thread in order to give direction to those who were affected in the last batch of name changes (and perhaps future ones). You are not stuck with your temporary name, you will get a chance to pick one of your choosing.

The naming policy has been around since 2010, so this should not be news to anyone who hasn't read the rules of the server (which we hope you read, prior to playing here). I'll be the first to admit that we have been pretty laid back when it came to names (unless they were offensive/vulgar) but I think we all can agree that it has gotten a little out of hand. We need to adhere to our own policies and apply them to everyone equally. Recent tools have allowed us to view certain names (without a que up) as well as add to the filter once it's changed. If you are wondering why your name was changed but another players name wasn't, you were not being targeted or singled out (as much as you guys like to think so). There is only a few of us, and thousands of players. We only have so many hours to donate per day.

On another note, we do not need players running around harassing others because of names. Leave the search for us, as it is our position to do so.

Huge thanks to the staff for putting the time in for this quality of life improvement. And a huge opposite of thanks to all the awful people who harass them and send threats (!?!?!). What the hell is wrong with you people?

I'm not personally bothered by the random names (like Winchester, Spacepope, or Drummer Boy, to use examples from this thread); but I'm pretty tired of names in the realm of Shartsin (to use another example from this thread).

I get that a lot of us were teenagers when we first played this game, but we don't have to act like that now.

[Watchmyfeet]

Bottom line, Kittens Who Say Meow don't bother anyone on p99. They have been around almost from the beginning and pretty fun easy going folks.

This probably describes half the people getting name changes, why exclude one group because you want to?

[Legidias]

Im not even sure how Kittens is a "bad" name. There are at least cats in EQ, who probably have younger cats, aka kittens, who make meow sounds?

Something like "Dial" a port (or anything with dial in it) makes no sense since, well, there wouldn't have been any such device or way to "dial" someone.

[Lhancelot]

The behavior in this thread and in game has been atrocious. It's completely understandable to be upset and/or frustrated, players grow attached to their characters' names and it can be devastating to lose your identity. We get it. But lashing out at staff members and sending threats is completely inexcusable. I created this thread in order to give direction to those who were affected in the last batch of name changes (and perhaps future ones). You are not stuck with your temporary name, you will get a chance to pick one of your choosing.

The naming policy has been around since 2010, so this should not be news to anyone who hasn't read the rules of the server (which we hope you read, prior to playing here). I'll be the first to admit that we have been pretty laid back when it came to names (unless they were offensive/vulgar) but I think we all can agree that it has gotten a little out of hand. We need to adhere to our own policies and apply them to everyone equally. Recent tools have allowed us to view certain names (without a que up) as well as add to the filter once it's changed. If you are wondering why your name was changed but another players name wasn't, you were not being targeted or singled out (as much as you guys like to think so). There is only a few of us, and thousands of players. We only have so many hours to donate per day.

On another note, we do not need players running around harassing others because of names. Leave the search for us, as it is our position to do so.

The in game behavior and forums behavior has been atrocious. However it goes far beyond the vitriol aimed at guides and it's not just the bombardment of petitions filed by "helpers" to "purge the immersion killing names" at the guides.

It's the overall total lack of empathy on behalf of the players who have tormented their fellow players who lost their names which they felt great emotional attachment to.

I said it from the beginning, it wasn't cool and I stand by that. Why torment and aggravate the situation more? Because "it's fun to torment people when they are angry" is the response I got. Really guys? This is sad.

If I understand clearly, a new technology is being used that grants a wider view of names in the game. Names have been viewed under higher scrutiny since using this newer technology and so names have subsequently been wiped now that they are being recognized easier and faster.

Llandris, why couldn't this have been shared earlier and thus perhaps some of the storm could have been managed easier once it began? If players had understood that names could possibly be getting wiped, names that were established for years I only can think it might have helped some if they had a warning.

Sure, some people would rage no matter what, but a great many people would have done better with a warning ahead of time instead of letting them find out by logging in and seeing their names wiped and replaced by a generic name of others choosing.

Anyway, we actually lost some longtime veteran players due to this, perhaps they will be back maybe not. Those who say names mean nothing need to understand that names mean nothing to them, but to others a character's name means a lot.

[Lulz~Sect]

What have you FQers done to Llandris

[mcy]

Sudden purging of names just tells me they are fine tuning everything before the eventual server wipe... so we're all stuck hitting the random name generator. FINALLY!

[skarlorn]

*Grovels before the staff*

[loramin]

To elaborate, I have always felt there is a privilege given to those who spend more time on the forums than in the game. Don't care how much you edit the Per-Level Hunting Guide [thanks for that, though, Loramin]

I'm glad you've enjoyed the Per-Level Hunting Guide SunDrake. I didn't make it to curry any special favors or treatment, I just did it because I saw a million threads asking where to hunt, and I figured there must be a better way to answer them. But unless you count getting two items that I accidentally lost restored recently (yes, I'm a moron) I've gotten no special privileges here.

That being said, I don't think Loramin has an awful personality or is nasty, I just think his love of his own name has blinded him from reasonable thinking in this circumstance.

I do love my name/character. I mean, I loved him so much I re-created him here exactly as he was on live, with the exact same name/face/race/class/deity. But I don't think I'm blinded by fear of a name change: when I similarly re-created my ranger here his name was already taken, so I added a silent "h" and moved on. I'm sure I could do something similar if I had to with Loramin.

I just think ... look what seems to get forgotten is that the staff are people, not blind rules-following automaton. A staff member can look at a name like Loramin and think "that sounds like a random fantasy name and not anything I've ever heard of in the real world". That same staff member can also look at Winchester (for instance) and think "you know, I think I may have heard of that ..."

So yes, I do understand that the rules say a name can be changed for being the same as a trademark. But as I mentioned before, there are 10k new trademarks issued every quarter in the US alone. If the staff was a bunch of rule-enforcing robots they would write a script to match character names against every new trademark as it comes out ... but that will never ever happen because they aren't robots trying to ban every trademarked name.

What they are is people, people who love this game so much that they volunteer their own free time, spending some of it to change obviously recognizable names that don't belong in Norath so that everyone else can enjoy the game more. That basic fact makes me feel my name is relatively safe, but at the same time it also ensures that I'll feel no ill will if it does get changed. And I really think it would help a lot if everyone else here also tried to keep that basic fact in mind when having these discussions.

[skarlorn]

I'm a little sad that the name gestapo are finished. It was really fun and I enjoyed the time I logged in to inform on people. But too many nerds got out of hand and made a headache for our blessed, immersion loving staff.

I have laid down my laurels but will keep them freshly dusted in case the staff ever needs the List to continue.

KITTENS DELENDA EST

[loramin]

allowing certain forums posters to take credit for the name changes isn't doing you any favors either

If the staff went around correcting every false claim made by forum posters they'd never get any actual staff work done :p

[BirryDaKir]

Chardok 2.0 is coming "Soon (tm)" meanwhile, enjoy the name changes!

[Lhancelot]

I'm glad you've enjoyed the Per-Level Hunting Guide SunDrake. I didn't make it to curry any special favors or treatment, I just did it because I saw a million threads asking where to hunt, and I figured there must be a better way to answer them. But unless you count getting two items that I accidentally lost restored recently (yes, I'm a moron) I've gotten no special privileges here.



I do love my name/character. I mean, I loved him so much I re-created him here exactly as he was on live, with the exact same name/face/race/class/deity. But I don't think I'm blinded by fear of a name change: when I similarly re-created my ranger here his name was already taken, so I added a silent "h" and moved on. I'm sure I could do something similar if I had to with Loramin.

I just think ... look what seems to get forgotten is that the staff are people, not blind rules-following automaton. A staff member can look at a name like Loramin and think "that sounds like a random fantasy name and not anything I've ever heard of in the real world". That same staff member can also look at Winchester (for instance) and think "you know, I think I may have heard of that ..."

So yes, I do understand that the rules say a name can be changed for being the same as a trademark. But as I mentioned before, there are 10k new trademarks issued every quarter in the US alone. If the staff was a bunch of rule-enforcing robots they might write a script to match character names against every new trademark as it comes out ... but that will never ever happen because they aren't robots trying to ban every trademarked name.

What they are is people, people who love this game so much that they volunteer their own free time, spending some of it to change obviously recognizable names that don't belong in Norath. That basic fact makes me feel my name is relatively safe, but at the same time it also ensures that I'll feel no ill will if it does get changed. And I really think it would help a lot if everyone else here also tried to keep that basic fact in mind.

Yeah I agree with all of this, for the most part. But what about fellow players? I just marvel at how when players detected other players being upset by their names being changed how they got attacked and ridiculed.

Would I personally be upset and quit the game if a name was changed? Probably not.

But saying as Vorhees did above "anyone that is upset over this isn't an adult" (paraphrasing here) is lacking understanding of other people, either due to an inability to empathize or simply being mean for the sake of being mean.

Blah blah blah. I am tired of this topic, I am sure the guides are REALLY tired of this topic, and wish you all well. Going to try to extract myself from it now.

I just get irritated when people start slinging personal insults at others for a good laugh when it's clear the targets are genuinely upset. Pretty cowardly and debased imo.

[d3r14k]

WU'TANG FOREVER

Sadly with the recent naming shenanigans, Wu'Tang might be a lost cause.

This one might be better to forget. I KNOW IT PAINS YOU, but let it go.

[Lhancelot]

allowing certain forums posters to take credit for the name changes isn't doing you any favors either, and is probably one reason why you guys are getting harassed over this.


Llandris has said exactly why they started changing names, nowhere did he mention they began the name changing due to a certain player or players making complaints.

People just need to have brains in their heads, and recognize that no individual had anything to do with the policy being enforced.

I said it many different times, but you had the peanut gallery pumping up the individual giving him false credit for the sake of trolling purposes, and making him really feel like he should be taking credit.

Anyone that believed this narrative is retarded, to be blunt.

[Fleetwood]

If your character name was part of this group, you may petition for a 1 time name change (within an acceptable time frame) so long as it adheres to the naming policy. Do not petition with the expectation of getting your original name back, it was changed for a reason. Thank you for your cooperation.

-P99 Staff

Sorry if this was already made clear, but I have 2 chars so far with their names changed. Did you want one petition per char or lump em into one message.

[skarlorn]

Anyone that believed this narrative is retarded, to be blunt.

[Crookstinger]

Has anyone that has self-reported a name violation actually had your character's name changed?

[Wfrench1234]

That’s it! I’m going to clown college!

[Lhancelot]

.

https://i.imgur.com/1Cccjyt.gif

[Ciksharn]

The in game behavior and forums behavior has been atrocious. However it goes far beyond the vitriol aimed at guides and it's not just the bombardment of petitions filed by "helpers" to "purge the immersion killing names" at the guides.

It's the overall total lack of empathy on behalf of the players who have tormented their fellow players who lost their names which they felt great emotional attachment to.

I said it from the beginning, it wasn't cool and I stand by that. Why torment and aggravate the situation more? Because "it's fun to torment people when they are angry" is the response I got. Really guys? This is sad.

If I understand clearly, a new technology is being used that grants a wider view of names in the game. Names have been viewed under higher scrutiny since using this newer technology and so names have subsequently been wiped now that they are being recognized easier and faster.

Llandris, why couldn't this have been shared earlier and thus perhaps some of the storm could have been managed easier once it began? If players had understood that names could possibly be getting wiped, names that were established for years I only can think it might have helped some if they had a warning.

Sure, some people would rage no matter what, but a great many people would have done better with a warning ahead of time instead of letting them find out by logging in and seeing their names wiped and replaced by a generic name of others choosing.

Anyway, we actually lost some longtime veteran players due to this, perhaps they will be back maybe not. Those who say names mean nothing need to understand that names mean nothing to them, but to others a character's name means a lot.

Sorry dad

[SiouxNation]

Wait so they people who had names changed were given a generic RNG name?

[Lulz~Sect]

The name Loramin should not exist in Norrath. Cleanse it. No one is above the rules.

[Lulz~Sect]

Kittens is a terrible guild name and should be Cleansed

[skarlorn]

FIled my petition on Platwhore.

Still waiting a name change on Womblord.

Please help!

[NachtMystium]

RIP name snitches

[Nagoya]

Can we petition NPC names like Guard Chopin, Guard Bach, or Joffrey and Sansa in Qeynos? They're ruining my Norrathian immersion with real-world references (T_T)

[SiouxNation]

Everyone should just try and come up with a unique name that is not inspired by anything at all, like me.

[Lulz~Sect]

📝

[Pope Hat]

This thread is amazing. 10/10

[MHUM]

See ya later Wooters Forhooters

[kotton05]

Everyone should just try and come up with a unique name that is not inspired by anything at all, like me.

Your immersion is greater too I bet.

[Gozuk]

Great opportunity to come clean here. I thought all my names were acceptable and made with respect for the game until I realised I have a lower level human female Monk named Thebride. Needs to go.

[Google]

The naming policy has been around since 2010

What of those characters with uninspired names created before 2010?

Should they be held to a naming standard developed after their character creation?

[khanable]

That's pretty much how rules work, yeah.

Take the VA front plate law, do I get to say, "Well, I didn't have a front plate before the law passed, I should be exempt from having to get a front plate on my car."? No? Oh well then, I guess that's fair.

Yeah, Google, you were expected to delete the character and start over with a new one that complied with new naming regulations

JEEZ

[Llandris]

What of those characters with uninspired names created before 2010?

Should they be held to a naming standard developed after their character creation?

This naming policy should be considered retroactive at the discretion of the Customer Service Representatives, and will be enforced as the project's limited support resources permits.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/eRnexEx_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Llandris_Thirandus

📝

[Spyder73]

I am deriving great pleasure from the server feeling my pain. Let the schadenfreude flow like the salmon of Capistrano

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/eRnexEx_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Llandris_Thirandus

📝

📝

[Spyder73]

Sirken
SIRken
sirKEN
SIR KEN
Sir Ken

[Lhancelot]

Sirken
SIRken
sirKEN
SIR KEN
Sir Ken

You are late to the party, sheesh.

[Spyder73]

NILBOG = GOBLIN (backwards)

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/eRnexEx_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Llandris_Thirandus

📝

Nice dig here. Lulz been on a rampage finding seemingly obscure names that are violating the naming policy. hmmph.

[khanable]

Who said anything about deletion? They're renaming characters, not deleting them, and you can petition for a name of your choosing. :confused: Less drama, more logic.

sarcasm is hard

[skarlorn]

Rogean

ROG = ROGUE

Ean = typo of common name Ian

Rogean = Ian's Rogue

GOTTEM

[Jimjam]

Cylock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psylocke)

It seems to me any conceivable name is basically against the name policy.

[SiouxNation]

Cylock (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psylocke)

It seems to me any conceivable name is basically against the name policy.

[SiouxNation]

Your immersion is greater too I bet.

I have reached great levels of immersion but truth be told I am always striving for more immersion.

[Lhancelot]

I guess I am too easily immersed, bad names and such never phase me in the game.

I keep EQ sounds running, turn music off so I can hear all the weird little creature noises and battle sounds too.

I get so immersed I forget how to read nameplates in fact. I just see elves, ogres and stuff. I start thinking I am in actual Norrath, it gets so bad.

You people struggling to find immersion either are OCD and lack attention spans or are unimaginative.

[Jimjam]

I actually spend a lot of the time with name plates turned off :S

[khanable]

ya pc and npc names off is honestly best immersion

[Lulz~Sect]

📝

[SiouxNation]

Names off is truly the way to play.

[skarlorn]

ALL GRPAHICS OFF IS SUPREMEM IMMERSION so i may use my third eye to imagiNe the Elf lords

[Lulz~Sect]

I used to only have player names on during classic red era

[skarlorn]

deleTed or just name change?

[khanable]

Is that the AM or AW one?

isn't there two of em?

[Brocode]

omg never saw that nilbog was goblin!:eek::eek::eek:

[skarlorn]

Despite ruining my immersion, I always liked seeing your gnome warrior Austinpowerz and our brief time killing dragons together.

I hope you think up a name that equals the quality of your character!

PST if you want help brainstorming

[Lhancelot]

omg never saw that nilbog was goblin!:eek::eek::eek:

That's right, Edocorb! Now you know.

[d-tron]

This is like if the NYPD suddenly started handing out tickets for people dancing in bars under the archaic Cabaret Law and following up with “too bad folks it’s been in the rule book since 1926.”

Oh wait the city did start selectively enforcing that dumb old law as a method to close certain businesses it deemed were a nuisance which resulted in public backlash and it took years of legislation until it was finally repealed in 2017.

Let’s keep tearing down these nonsensical outdated regulations, F tha police!!!

[Expediency]

I'm a little sad that the name gestapo are finished. It was really fun and I enjoyed the time I logged in to inform on people. But too many nerds got out of hand and made a headache for our blessed, immersion loving staff.

I have laid down my laurels but will keep them freshly dusted in case the staff ever needs the List to continue.

KITTENS DELENDA EST

You are missing on some pro roleplaying opportunities here by being the mob leader with a pitchfork instead of giving some of these names deeper consideration. Many names are clear violations (eg austinpowers, loramin) but others are much more arguable. I'd like to hear some skarlorn breakdowns of reasoning behind your choices. Baler wasnt up to the task but you've got more moxie.

For instance, what rule specifically does "kittens who say meow" break? State your case for the record, sir.



What they are is people, people who love this game so much that they volunteer their own free time, spending some of it to change obviously recognizable names that don't belong in Norath so that everyone else can enjoy the game more. That basic fact makes me feel my name is relatively safe, but at the same time it also ensures that I'll feel no ill will if it does get changed. And I really think it would help a lot if everyone else here also tried to keep that basic fact in mind when having these discussions.

Flattery will get you nowhere. Loramin is the property of the Colgate-Palmolive corporation and has been since the 1970's.

[skarlorn]

[QUOTE=Expediency;2657626]

For instance, what rule specifically does "kittens who say meow" break? State your case for the record, sir.
/QUOTE]

Generally, people are too emotional and reactionary for me to have a SERIOUS and IN DEPTH discussion of this matter; however I have appreciated your in depth exploration of names and am actually very pleased to be sharing forum about this.

I appreciate this first point you have brought up and it is a point upon which I must revise my inflammatory meme shitposting. After extensive review, there is NO clause in naming policy that discusses guild names. As far as I'm concerned at this point, if a GM has approved a guild name, that name is totally acceptable.

I formally lodge an apology for attempting the destruction and salting of the <Kittens Who Say Meow>

Now, as to the individual name petitioning, I agree completely that there are great Roleplay opportunities. In an earlier post in this thread I broke down my system for hunting immersion ruining names. Whenever I see someone, I ALWAYS engage them in roleplay and try to see if they can RP a reason for their name. There were several ppl who were amazing at this and it was really fun.


i gotta get on a call


please reply

[loramin]

Flattery will get you nowhere. Loramin is the property of the Colgate-Palmolive corporation and has been since the 1970's.

Really? Are you saying that because you're involved in IP law and know it to be true, or because you threw "Loramin" in to Google and some random webpage came up?

Because if you search the actual USPTO search (http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4806:nri7tv.1.1) for "Loramin" you get ...

No TESS records were found to match the criteria of your query.

[Geomance22]

So kittens and dial a dad are going nowhere but tons of people got their names cucked. Talk about half measures.

[Cambiant]

I have laid down my laurels but will keep them freshly dusted in case the staff ever needs the List to continue.


Your laurels were stripped for obviously bias and possible Filipino ladyboy service acceptance. A warrior who can't pray to Rallos Zek..

[Senescant]

https://i.imgur.com/MHgssut_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

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You should lay down your policy breaking name

[skarlorn]

What is this, some sort of coup de Filbus

[Computer Man]

First they banned that Who'Tang guy's name, now Filbus? :eek:

[Expediency]

Really? Are you saying that because you're involved in IP law and know it to be true, or because you threw "Loramin" in to Google and some random webpage came up?

Because if you search the actual USPTO search (http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4806:nri7tv.1.1) for "Loramin" you get ...


My RL career is not relevant to the p99 naming policy, sir.

So far nobody has produced a legal notarized trademark application for "Loramin" but several different websites who compile that information for a living all give the same very specific information: Loramin--colgate palmolive corporation-1974. There are also dates of filing and a NYC-based address associated with this info. Anyone properly motivated could get those papers, or you could test this by attempting to sell something branded "Loramin" and you'd find out very quickly whether colgate-palmolive holds this trademark or not.

Your vocal defense in the face of a preponderance of evidence is inspiring but we cant fight reality here.

The only potential defense I see for the name "Loramin" would be to claim that it is two "acceptable" names put together as a compound (such as Lor Amin) but that seems like a stretch after the statements you've made.

[Expediency]

The only potential defense I see for the name "Loramin" would be to claim that it is two "acceptable" names put together as a compound (such as Lor Amin) but that seems like a stretch after the statements you've made.

Upon further inspection, "Lor Amin" may also violate the naming policy.

https://www.elfdict.com/

Lor:

to slumber

lor- "to slumber" (LT1:259; the corresponding abstract noun lórë "slumber" is attested in Tolkien's later Quenya, so this verb must still be valid). Cf. also lor "dream" (Letters:308; probably just an Elvish "element" rather than a complete word)


Amin:

masculine name. hope

A rejected name for Aragorn, changed to Estel (PM/269). It is probably a variant of amdir (MR/320).


You will all have to forgive me, justifying/not justifying these names changes is the most fun I've had on p99 in quite a while. If I had all day I'd rip balers list to pieces.

[Baler]

The pharmaceutical name is Loratadine not loramin you jackasses and atop that it's just Claritin which is no big deal.

https://i.imgur.com/INR6Svz.gif

[SiouxNation]

What’s the end game here?

[Stroboo]

What is this, some sort of coup de Filbus

Yes...

Fili & Fila - latin root for thread, or skinny - as in Filament

Bus - comes from the latin word omnibus meaning "for everyone" and referring to a passenger carrying vehicle - shortened to Bus

so rough translation of Filbus would be - skinnybus or threadbus which is an obvious violation...

[Expediency]

The pharmaceutical name is Loratadine not loramin you jackasses and atop that it's just Claritin which is no big deal.

https://i.imgur.com/INR6Svz.gif

The "pharmaceutical name" is not relevant. The naming policy states:

Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

"Loramin" is trademarked. You need to step your game up, baler.

[Expediency]

Yes...

Fili & Fila - latin root for thread, or skinny - as in Filament

Bus - comes from the latin word omnibus meaning "for everyone" and referring to a passenger carrying vehicle - shortened to Bus

so rough translation of Filbus would be - skinnybus or threadbus which is an obvious violation...

The image of "Fil'bus" is not enough to convict, because the punctuation is very important and changes the whole word.

I like where your head is at though with this latin argument, keep pushing and we'll bring another zealot down a notch.

My immersion is at critical levels right now due to this discussion, trying to imagine what someone in norrath would or wouldnt have heard of. We should have done this earlier!

[Spyder73]

The image of "Fil'bus" is not enough to convict, because the punctuation is very important and changes the whole word.

I like where your head is at though with this latin argument, keep pushing and we'll bring another zealot down a notch.

My immersion is at critical levels right now due to this discussion, trying to imagine what someone in norrath would or wouldnt have heard of. We should have done this earlier!

WU-TANG vs WU'TANG says you are wrong

[d3r14k]

What’s the end game here?

To force everyone into a name change, or at least the high-horsers that have tooted their own horns

or;

To invalidate the naming policy by attempting to prove all names are against the policy in some way or another

Either way, this is making for some awesome Server Chat / R&F posts. I commend all involved.

[Smaxx]

It's sad that they are on this name change power trip, when they could be focusing this energy on GM events. But no, guilds and players have to hold server wide events while the "Guides" go around changing some toons name Drinkkerr and leaving a guy named Ismokeweed.

[Spyder73]

It's sad that they are on this name change power trip, when they could be focusing this energy on GM events. But no, guilds and players have to hold server wide events while the "Guides" go around changing some toons name Drinkkerr and leaving a guy named Ismokeweed.

This poster is exhibiting signs of being mad

[Pokesan]

It's sad that they are on this name change power trip, when they could be focusing this energy on GM events. But no, guilds and players have to hold server wide events while the "Guides" go around changing some toons name Drinkkerr and leaving a guy named Ismokeweed.

they'll get there soon enough. immersion WILL be restored.

hail victory!

[supermonk]

llandris is a saint.

[Cambiant]

llandris is a saint.

[Senescant]

What’s the end game here?

No fun allowed is the endgame

[skarlorn]

This IS end game

[Expediency]

Is there a full list somewhere?

I'd like to know if any of my character's names have been changed.

I'd love to see a list, it would help mitigate the impacts of this change. The huge unintended consequence here is the loss of currency via reputation for the community. For example:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244125

Assume for a moment "lunatick" is a name in violation of the rules... there's plenty of evidence out there to show the community has a bad impression of this guy. If someone petitions his name, or if he petitions it himself, he can get a generated name, a blank slate, and join another raiding guild like he's a brand new player.

I also predict new names will be used to help spy on other guilds.

[Freakish]

All my characters are safe and the same!

Or are they?

[Smurflogik]

I did not have a name changed, and quite frankly, I don't give a shit. That said, my 3 main takeaways are:

1) This edict should have been consistent. Ban all violations, or ban none. Of course the owners of the server are free to do whatever the hell they want, but if they want to maintain some semblance of a community with rules/guidelines, they need to be enforced equally.

2) A lot of historic server ne'er-do-wells are about to get an unearned, and undeserved, clean reputation-slate.

3) The number of high-horsers getting off on people's misfortune over this is truly pathetic. Really, think about what you're griefing people over.

Life will go on, and I must admit the threads have been highly entertaining, but this is one of the most pitiful things I've ever seen people derive pleasure from.

Just my 2 cents. As you were.

[Spyder73]

This IS end game

"if the decent into total addiction was 12 steps, what # step is the step you take right before losing your job over Everquest?" – Iruinedyourday


An interesting question. I believe this is the progression one needs to follow in order to achieve total immersion. Please feel free to add your thoughts (Not you Caldabolg - you pathetic piece of sh!t).

1) Installing Project 1999
2) Reaching level 50 on your first character
3) Joining a raiding guild
4) Getting on the Batphone list
5) First time you call in sick for the sole purpose of socking a raid mob
6) Quickly leaving a real life social event to answer a Batphone summons
7) Playing more than 50 hours in a single week
8) Growing a neck beard because there is no need to shave since you don’t leave your house except to go to work.
9) Getting fired from a job for EQ related work performance decline.
10) Getting divorced because your immersion level has hit 10 and your wife has started cheating on you because all you do now is not work and play EQ.
11) Losing custody of your children because EQ has total control of your soul
12) Stop playing P99 all together and focus solely on Forumquest meme’s and GIFs.

[SiouxNation]

Where does getting banned from said forum land you? Has to come after 12.

Insert cat gif

[skarlorn]

Getting banned/suspended from forums is called an "Ascension". It's the equivalent of a Prestige level in Call of Duty.

You start back at the basics and work your way up to your next ban.

Hope this helps!

[Pokesan]

Getting banned/suspended from forums is called an "Ascension". It's the equivalent of a Prestige level in Call of Duty.

You start back at the basics and work your way up to your next ban.

Hope this helps!

true except most of the politics posters have zenkai, making them stronger and more annoying after an incomplete defeat.

[mjrau]

<Kittens Who Say Meow> a bad meme making fun of <Knights Who Say Ni> needs to go

as well as the name spacepope

fair enforcement please

Knights who say Ni need to go as a rip off of Monty Python

[Computer Man]

The sky is falling in, this is the end of P99 as we know it.

[Computer Man]

The "pharmaceutical name" is not relevant. The naming policy states:

Copyrighted or trademarked names of products, characters, services, or concepts (e.g. Bigmac, Marlboro, Sony).

"Loramin" is trademarked. You need to step your game up, baler.

Now we're rule lawyering rules.

[Thugnuts]

Knights who say Ni need to go as a rip off of Monty Python

KWSN was the greatest guild to ever exist on this server. They were one of the few guilds that played with the true spirit and comradery of early classic EQ. But then the Orcs and Gollums took over the server, and Stembolt led the Knights away from Norrath to find their ultimate destiny within Time and Space.

To even mention the Knights in the context of this thread approaches blasphemy.

[jakerees]

KWSN was the greatest guild to ever exist on this server. They were one of the few guilds that played with the true spirit and comradery of early classic EQ. But then the Orcs and Gollums took over the server, and Stembolt led the Knights away from Norrath to find their ultimate destiny within Time and Space.

To even mention the Knights in the context of this thread approaches blasphemy.

Everything that you just said is wrong.

[skarlorn]

Jake please don't disparage the great name of Stembolt or I will have to launch a volley of psychic attacks while Meditating in the ISS

(I'm a young astronaut)

[moltm]

i am on my knees begging you to give me back hotrodd. please. i'll do anything. i have a lot of money.

[Lulz~Sect]

📝

[StoneyOneKenobi]

Anyone remember on Live when that bug occurred and a ton of people got an X put at the end of their first name? Good times.

[Canelek]

Anyone remember on Live when that bug occurred and a ton of people got an X put at the end of their first name? Good times.

They'd do that as well when there was a server merge to avoid duplicate names.

[Kawazu]

Freebutts Exx is currently streaming and sirken is one if his mods... favortism at its finest.

[p99pally]

Freebutts Exx is currently streaming and sirken is one if his mods... favortism at its finest.


This

[mjrau]

KWSN was the greatest guild to ever exist on this server. They were one of the few guilds that played with the true spirit and comradery of early classic EQ. But then the Orcs and Gollums took over the server, and Stembolt led the Knights away from Norrath to find their ultimate destiny within Time and Space.

To even mention the Knights in the context of this thread approaches blasphemy.

Could not care less as to the truth of your statement. If people are going after the Kittens for naming issues, then Knights Who Say Nin should be changed first as it is a direct copy off a popular movie.

Change the guild name to Shrubbery, thats vague enough :p

[Gremmy]

RIP Targaryens

[Shrubwise]

There was a brief time period between patches when you could exploit a bug in the naming system and create a new character with two capitalized letters in the first name. I made TheProphet on Rallos Zek and got countless whispers asking how.

[Enderenter2]

Is there any chance that some staff members may be in violation of this new policy?

[brandonb1029]

I feel like keeping names non-offensive was enough. The rest of the naming policy is ridiculous. If it ruins your immersion, mine was ruined knowing there cannot be two people with the same first name.

Might as well just force all random names since the whole naming policy limits you to just about that.

[loramin]

I feel like keeping names non-offensive was enough. The rest of the naming policy is ridiculous. If it ruins your immersion, mine was ruined knowing there cannot be two people with the same first name.

Might as well just force all random names since the whole naming policy limits you to just about that.

A lot of people seem to misunderstand "immersion". The point of trying to preserve "immersion" isn't to try and make it so you log in to Project 1999 and never think of the real world. The point is that you log in to Project 1999 and you never think "this Project 1999 ... not classic EverQuest".

Did you play back in the day? Here's the screenshot I have from that time (or maybe just after classic, but same difference) with the most character names in it. I took this screenshot to document a GM event, not to prove anything about names 15-odd years later, but it perfectly illustrates my point:

https://i.imgur.com/3jbnPQk.png

Consider how many names violate the name policy: arguably zero. Even the names which might violate it are still mostly kosher (eg. Dome Nytewulf, Tuttas Frutt).

I strongly suspect that if you go through old group screenshots from the classic EverQuest period (or even several years after), and you don't cherry-pick, you will also see very few name violations.

So, just like everything else here, the point isn't to remake the best (or most immersive) MMOG ever: the point is just to recreate classic EverQuest. And classic EverQuest simply did not have a ton of people with names like "Papp Smear" running around.

P.S. Yes, that is the original live version of Loramin Frostseer, or at least his name and (tiny family) guild tag, down at the bottom ;)

[brandonb1029]

A lot of people seem to misunderstand "immersion". The point of trying to preserve "immersion" isn't to try and make it so you log in to Project 1999 and never think of the real world. The point is that you log in to Project 1999 and you never think "this Project 1999 ... not classic EverQuest".

Did you play back in the day? Here's a random screenshot I dug up from that time:

https://i.imgur.com/3jbnPQk.png

Compare the ratio of "real" names" to fake ones ... and notice that even the names which might violate the naming policy still mostly look like real ones (Dome Nytewulf, Tuttas Frutt).

I strongly suspect that (unless you cherry-pick) if you go through old group screenshots from the classic EverQuest period (or even several years after) you will see very few name violations.

So, just like everything else here, the point isn't to remake the best (or most immersive) MMOG ever: the point is just to recreate classic EverQuest. And classic EverQuest did not have a bunch of Papp Smears running around.


The whole immersion point was in reference to the few of you that took joy in reporting every name you see. I do not log on a game and think my day, gameplay or life is ruined because someone named themselves Capncrunch or Cereal Killer.

[daxchunjae1912]

@loramin, Hi I read through many of the responses but if "immersion" is really misunderstood then what about the guild names? Surely there's many right now that wouldn't fit at all with the lore and rpg fantasy. And if you really want to go a step further, then links shouldn't be available for the auction and it should've been where you had to 'godforbid' type the whole stats out and etc...

To me I think this whole "immersion" thing is very subjective because everyone has their own ways of playing the game, whether it's casual or hardcore roleplaying. For the naming policy it should simply be held as a case by case basis.

[Spyder73]

Fighting with the staff over names is one of the most pointless endeavors you can possibly pursue on P99.

Source: I fought the law and the law won

[Smaxx]

I personally feel the problem is the cherry picking. Change one, change them all. Not those you want to change. I still see names out there that are not even close to being legal, yet they are ok.
Saw a Guide standing next to a guy named Ibeblazin and nothing happened. But Stockmarket is in violation. It doesn't make sense.

[brandonb1029]

Fighting with the staff over names is one of the most pointless endeavors you can possibly pursue on P99.

Source: I fought the law and the law won

I'm pretty sure that is actually how things change...

Source: Fought the law for being wrong and I won.

[Muggens]

I personally feel the problem is the cherry picking. Change one, change them all. Not those you want to change. I still see names out there that are not even close to being legal, yet they are ok.
Saw a Guide standing next to a guy named Ibeblazin and nothing happened. But Stockmarket is in violation. It doesn't make sense.

Agree - Ive also been petitioning one of my own char names in violation of the policy but to no avail.

[loramin]

@loramin, Hi I read through many of the responses but if "immersion" is really misunderstood then what about the guild names? Surely there's many right now that wouldn't fit at all with the lore and rpg fantasy. And if you really want to go a step further, then links shouldn't be available for the auction and it should've been where you had to 'godforbid' type the whole stats out and etc...

Technical limitations are not developer cherry-picking. While everyone (including the devs) agree item links aren't classic, they come from the Titanium client. Just like true night blindness, item links are difficult/impossible to fix without switching clients. (I've also heard they reduce scamming a lot, and I'm certainly in favor of any changes, even non-classic ones, that are needed to allow our all-volunteer to fully serve Project 1999 players).

As for guild names, EQ has historically been more forgiving when it comes to guild names that are borderline (eg. in the above screenshot "Ill Tempered Sea Bass" might violate the naming policy, but the guild was on Bristlebane for years without a name change). But I also know for certain that they did police them (eg. "Club Fu" on Bristlebane was originally rejected; they had to convince the GMs that "Fu" was for Chinese good luck, not fuck you).

Again, you have to remember that this server doesn't have paid GMs like on live: it has an entirely volunteer staff, and they have lots of other duties besides changing names. Their recent "crackdown" didn't target even 1/100th of the server names; it was a shot across the bow, not a master fix. They've basically said that's because they don't have infinite time to fix everything.

If, in a year from now, the staff still haven't fixed many egregious name violations (player or guild), then maybe people will have something to complain about. But for now, anyone complaining about "boo hoo they fixed some names before fixing every name, or fixing every guild name" is really saying "I don't like the exact order of every action taken by the all-volunteer staff on my 100% free server" :p

To me I think this whole "immersion" thing is very subjective because everyone has their own ways of playing the game, whether it's casual or hardcore roleplaying. For the naming policy it should simply be held as a case by case basis.

You really missed the point of my earlier post. When it comes to "immersion", it's not subjective, it's like anything else on this server. In other words, it isn't about doing anything for casual players, or hardcore role-players, or handling anyone on a case-by-case basis. What it is about is recreating classic EverQuest (modulo things like unfixable technical issues). If that fits a player's casual playstyle, or hardcore desire to role-play, or choice of name, then that means classic EverQuest, ie. Project 1999, is for them.

[maskedmelon]

Logic doesn’t apply to the world run by emotional beings. Learn this, live this.

^ wisdom

[Handull]

A lot of people seem to misunderstand "immersion". The point of trying to preserve "immersion" isn't to try and make it so you log in to Project 1999 and never think of the real world. The point is that you log in to Project 1999 and you never think "this Project 1999 ... not classic EverQuest".

Did you play back in the day? Here's the screenshot I have from that time (or maybe just after classic, but same difference) with the most character names in it. I took this screenshot to document a GM event, not to prove anything about names 15-odd years later, but it perfectly illustrates my point:

https://i.imgur.com/3jbnPQk.png

Consider how many names violate the name policy: arguably zero. Even the names which might violate it are still mostly kosher (eg. Dome Nytewulf, Tuttas Frutt).

I strongly suspect that if you go through old group screenshots from the classic EverQuest period (or even several years after), and you don't cherry-pick, you will also see very few name violations.

So, just like everything else here, the point isn't to remake the best (or most immersive) MMOG ever: the point is just to recreate classic EverQuest. And classic EverQuest simply did not have a ton of people with names like "Papp Smear" running around.

P.S. Yes, that is the original live version of Loramin Frostseer, or at least his name and (tiny family) guild tag, down at the bottom ;)

Minuvan Speedporter ?

[loramin]

Minuvan Speedporter ?

Oh I somehow missed that one. But I never said there were never violating names like that on live (as I remember it live was like here: if no one petitioned your name and no GM happened to notice it you could keep a violating name). I just said that there were a lot fewer than here, and that they tended to be less violating/obvious (eg. that guy got away with Minuvan, because it sounds like a fantasy name, but he probably couldn't have gotten away with Minivan).

[daxchunjae1912]

@loramin, I have to disagree with you it IS subjective because in a way this IS cherry picking. If names policy is to be strictly enforced then why do some names go through while some don't? Also to apply this across not just names, but guild names, gm names, and possibly mechanics such as links , (which isn't classic, fine), but then buff timers showing for years then removed a year and half ago? (that wasn't classic to begin with). Why pick and choose when the whole point here is to be consistent with your outrage, that's all.

[brandonb1029]

Because classic live had 1 server for 8 years where people owned several accounts.

[loramin]

@loramin, I have to disagree with you it IS subjective because in a way this IS cherry picking. If names policy is to be strictly enforced then why do some names go through while some don't? Also to apply this across not just names, but guild names, gm names, and possibly mechanics such as links , (which isn't classic, fine), but then buff timers showing for years then removed a year and half ago? (that wasn't classic to begin with). Why pick and choose when the whole point here is to be consistent with your outrage, that's all.

I'm VERY consistent with my outrage ...

GMs not magically fixing every name at once: no outrage
(they're human)

GMs fixing some names before fixing others: no outrage
(direct effect of the above; they're humans so they have to start with someone)

GMs not fixing guild names before player names: no outrage
(I don't tell them how, or in what order, to do their job ... especially when their "job" is volunteering to help me)

Deves not fixing something they can't (item links): no outrage
(again, humans can't just magically fix impossible or really difficult technical problems).

Because classic live had 1 server for 8 years

A few volunteers working on a 100% free project to re-create a game published by a major company with tons of programmers, as classically as possible, for eight years of their lives, and letting me play on it the whole time while they work: no outrage

EDIT: You added "people owned several accounts" in an edit, so I feel compelled to point out that Live did in fact have many people who owned multiple accounts. For instance, Dome (in the screenshot above) was a friend of mine who also owned another account for "Domey". It was more the exception than the rule, but it did happen sometimes. Project 1999 has more of that than live did, but that's an "environment problem" the devs can't fix anymore than they can erase modern player's knowledge of how to acquire the Overthere Hammer using Puppet Strings (which was not common knowledge on live).

[brandonb1029]

Just because you have no outrage doesn't change the fact that it's not reasonable to think 1 server with several more characters created can reproduce as many unique names as you saw when you played during classic.

Or the fact that I think that the naming policy is excessive.

[loramin]

1 server with several more characters created can reproduce as many unique names as you saw when you played during classic.

Oh, so your point wasn't "multiple characters isn't classic", it was "more characters means less name choices"? To me that's like saying "we only have 10 million names to choose from, not 10.1 million like on live." It's true, but there are still millions of non-violating names available, so who cares?

If we ever get to the point where you can't hit the random button and get a decent name for your character I'll buy that "too many names are taken, so we have to abandon classic EQ and allow characters named Papp Smear to accommodate all of the players" ... but I suspect that day will never come.

[MiRo2]

EQ Live had considerably less naming violations, and almost no obvious ones for two reasons.

1.) When you requested a name a character selection it was checked against a database of obvious naming violations (swears, celebrities, etc)

2.) If it passed the first check, a tiny box(rez/tl box style) would pop up to any server guides that were online at the time and they would have 30 seconds to approve or disapprove the name, if no one approved/disproved it within 30 seconds, it was automatically approved.

[Brocode]

on live classic era had all my characters named as real figures from japanese culture, and never had a name violation, EQ is year 3000, meaning everything exists.

Wiz named Jiraia Ninja http://metalheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Toha_Yamaji
Mnk named Hyoga http://saintseiya.wikia.com/wiki/Cygnus_Hy%C5%8Dga

Once i moved servers i asked to be named Chuck, they said it was not allowed bla bla, until i told them Chuck alone is a common name, so they accepted, later i added surname Norriz, never been witchhunted by them.

Feels like gms are killing peoples way to do the immersion on the little they can choose by themselfs, on other hand, free name changes for a few selected.

[skarlorn]

brocode, you've been added to the list.

[Alanus]

EQ Live had considerably less naming violations, and almost no obvious ones for two reasons.

1.) When you requested a name a character selection it was checked against a database of obvious naming violations (swears, celebrities, etc)

2.) If it passed the first check, a tiny box(rez/tl box style) would pop up to any server guides that were online at the time and they would have 30 seconds to approve or disapprove the name, if no one approved/disproved it within 30 seconds, it was automatically approved.

I remember one night, back when duels were server-wide, two people were dueling with names like:

"Tuthpaste has defeated Cavitiez in a fight to the death"
"Lookskywalkr has defeated Darthvayder in a fight to the death"
etc..

Then, finally, they did:
"Wetakeadvantage has defeated Ofnohgms in a fight to the death".

It was like 18 years ago, but I found it hilarious then and still do

[Brocode]

brocode, you've been added to the list.

lol find me! :cool: so i can create a brocode!

[jakerees]

I found Brad McQuaid everyone!

https://imgur.com/7opksEg.jpeg

[Gel Mibson]

can we even the playing field and change some characters that have "special" names too? for example, characters whos name starts with a lower case.

" misaligned"
"necroma ncer"

[Jimjam]

can we even the playing field and change some characters that have "special" names too? for example, characters whos name starts with a lower case.

" misaligned"
"necroma ncer"

RIP "aaaaa"

[Muggens]

I found Brad McQuaid everyone!

https://imgur.com/7opksEg.jpeg

Happy to see Brad plays classic EQ

[Boilon]

so how long has it taken for peoples petition for name change taken? I logged in for the first time in a month finding my characters name changed. And do I have to stay logged in to get this changed?
On another note, is the crusade for reporting other peoples names still a thing?

[Pope Hat]

This thread reminded me that my brothers main in wow was ahyescubanb. Hilarious.

[Valdain]

so how long has it taken for peoples petition for name change taken? I logged in for the first time in a month finding my characters name changed. And do I have to stay logged in to get this changed?
On another note, is the crusade for reporting other peoples names still a thing?

I petitioned to remove my monk's surname like 8 months ago and it's still there, so Idk.

That said, as I'm just seeing this thread now, I am offering up the removal of my level 27 Barbarian Rogue's surname. His name is Ganorin Clegane. Just please don't screw up his first name. It was the name of my best friend's first toon on live and he is no longer with us.

[skarlorn]

I petitioned someone called Turdberglerr yesterday.

Really hoping GMs dedicated mroe time to the CLEANSING

[brandonb1029]

I petitioned someone called Turdberglerr yesterday.

Really hoping GMs dedicated mroe time to the CLEANSING

Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer


Seems like a reasonable name to me. Especially if he is a rogue.

Now names like Filbus are highly questionable:

Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair).

Fill spelled wrong. Bus spelled properly.

Fill bus violates rules. The word bus violates the rules as a bus does not exist in this game.

- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

GM's... Please fix as my immersion is ruined.

[Baler]

brandon that's reaching... (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reaching)

[Gozuk]

Petitioned a few days back to fix my Enchanter's name because they changed it to Piae. Gdi.

[skarlorn]

Descriptive compound words are allowed in first names and are encouraged in surnames (e.g. Treehugger, Giantslayer


Seems like a reasonable name to me. Especially if he is a rogue.

Now names like Filbus are highly questionable:

Names that contain sentences (Ikillorcs), phrases (Ontop), or two or more words that do not form descriptive compound words (Petcarbob, Diediedie and Tablechair).

Fill spelled wrong. Bus spelled properly.

Fill bus violates rules. The word bus violates the rules as a bus does not exist in this game.

- Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

GM's... Please fix as my immersion is ruined.

2/10 F+ for effort

[brandonb1029]

brandon that's reaching... (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reaching)


No, I believe someone dedicating as much time as he has reporting names, should be sure his name meets policy.

[Baler]

I wish this thread was in the RnF section now. :)

[brandonb1029]

2/10 F+ for effort

Policy is policy. I don't write the rules, just believe the biggest advocators should be held to the same standards they are trying to enforce.

[skarlorn]

i don't quite understand how Filbus violates naming policies. Please continue to explain the injustice!

[brandonb1029]

i don't quite understand how Filbus violates naming policies. Please continue to explain the injustice!


Bus does not exist in Eq nor it's setting or time frame. Now maybe I could approve filport or fillocator but Filbus.. no.

The combination of the words fill and bus put together do not form descriptive compound words. You took a word removed an L (clearly states misspelled words to bypass policy won't work... clearly that produces the fill noise). Is that a full bus or are you telling us to fill the bus... Nobody knows.

[skarlorn]

sorry I still don't understand but i want to make sure to petition myself

just please explain how Fil has any correlation to the word "fill" other than in your own head?

it seems like you're really grasping at straws trying to troll but on the off chance you aren't please explain a little more

and finally how do you know that the 'bus' in filbus is related at all to the vehicular automobiles as opposed to just being the second syllable of the name?

i feel like I almost understand, help me out

[brandonb1029]

sorry I still don't understand but i want to make sure to petition myself

just please explain how Fil has any correlation to the word "fill" other than in your own head?

it seems like you're really grasping at straws trying to troll but on the off chance you aren't please explain a little more

and finally how do you know that the 'bus' in filbus is related at all to the vehicular automobiles as opposed to just being the second syllable of the name?

i feel like I almost understand, help me out

The same reason you see turdburglerr as turd burglar. Burglerr could just be the last two syllables of the name.

Turds exist. Burglars exist. Busses do not.

I did not see a shitberglerr or anything of the likes. Or did you see it as turdburger?

[brandonb1029]

Sublife?

[skarlorn]

Ohhh, now I get it, you're a pedant!

[brandonb1029]

Ohhh, now I get it, you're a pedant!

Sure, but I guess that would apply to you as well except you would need it to be used as an adjective followed by snitch.

Regardless you approve of the ridiculous naming policy... Now abide by it.

[skarlorn]

please post all your toon names brandon, thanks

[skarlorn]

nvm, found you

Looking to buy both MQ.

Message Goontildeath in game.

How about we play a game. You can petition my name, and I'll petition yours.

Only one of us has to make senseless accusations (you), and I can just say "wow look at this horrible, immersion ruining name."

cya loser

[brandonb1029]

nvm, found you



How about we play a game. You can petition my name, and I'll petition yours.

Only one of us has to make senseless accusations (you), and I can just say "wow look at this horrible, immersion ruining name."

cya loser


What a loss. Last played well over a year ago. Go on til death forms a sentence so please do report. I hate when people call me goon in game anyway.. well rather explaining it's not goon til death.

Doesn't change my stance that the policy enforced after 8 years is ridiculous. And the losers like yourself should prove you support the policy by reporting your own names in violation.

[skarlorn]

I've reported all my names that are actually violating it. (Womblord, Platwhore, and a couple surnames).

I'm genuinely sorry you think that Filbus is a naming violation. I invite you to petition it and waste the staff's time, but we both know you won't because you're a coward who is making shit up to try and troll the server.

Feel free to post the rest of your toons so we can apply your idiotic logic to them (you won't, you're a coward).

[Spyder73]

I hate when people call me goon in game anyway.. well rather explaining it's not goon til death.

Goon - care to elaborate on how Goontildeath is not Goon-til-death? Not sure what the hell you are talking about but I imagine it has Canadian hockey ties. Do you also admit to being non-American?

[brandonb1029]

I've reported all my names that are actually violating it. (Womblord, Platwhore, and a couple surnames).

I'm genuinely sorry you think that Filbus is a naming violation. I invite you to petition it and waste the staff's time, but we both know you won't because you're a coward who is making shit up to try and troll the server.

Feel free to post the rest of your toons so we can apply your idiotic logic to them (you won't, you're a coward).

Goontildeath
Mageomatic
Snareomatic
Necromatic
Agonyking
Tenolien

Report them all please. I intend to fully start over when I log on again as I want to play with nothing as my friends would have. I really wouldn't mind.

[Baler]

call him 'bus for short, cuz he's short.

short. bus.

lol, this made me smile

[brandonb1029]

Goon - care to elaborate on how Goontildeath is not Goon-til-death? Not sure what the hell you are talking about but I imagine it has Canadian hockey ties. Do you also admit to being non-American?

Go on til death ... Go ahead and read it that way.. in 99 when I was 9 I created a monk with that name. However go on is now associated too much with goon (which it does spell as well) and something awful.

[skarlorn]

Excellent. You're well aware that the following names all deserve to be wiped:

Goontildeath
Mageomatic
Snareomatic
Necromatic
Agonyking

This name obviously is fine, but let's go ahead and apply the same logic you've applied to the name Filbus.

Tenolien

Ten-o-Lien

Ten - clearly this is a mispelling of the word "Tent"

o' - this is a shortening of the word on

Lien - a right to keep possession of property belonging to another person until a debt owed by that person is discharged.

This toon's name is a phrase meaning you have a "tent on lien". There are no tents in EQ, so this name violates the p99 naming convention both by referencing out of world material AND being a phrase.

Now, obviously this is the only acceptable name you have rolled.

This has been fun

[Whirled]

https://youtu.be/ZeOjZuxaV-s?t=2

1) Make T shirts that say "Goon til death"
2) profit
3) laugh at the name change thread while swimming in goon til death moneys made
4) always thank your waitress

[brandonb1029]

Excellent. You're well aware that the following names all deserve to be wiped:

Goontildeath
Mageomatic
Snareomatic
Necromatic
Agonyking

This name obviously is fine, but let's go ahead and apply the same logic you've applied to the name Filbus.

Tenolien

Ten-o-Lien

Ten - clearly this is a mispelling of the word "Tent"

o' - this is a shortening of the word on

Lien - a right to keep possession of property belonging to another person until a debt owed by that person is discharged.

This toon's name is a phrase meaning you have a "tent on lien". There are no tents in EQ, so this name violates the p99 naming convention both by referencing out of world material AND being a phrase.

Now, obviously this is the only acceptable name you have rolled.

This has been fun


Ten is actually the correct way to spell ten.

Second, tents do exist.. you should be banned for even making that statement.

Third, I am stating the naming policy is too strict, glad you are helping prove my point.

Fourth, since you're obviously a pro at searching user posts, you can go back and see how I think it's ridiculous that people's game immersion is ruined by others character's name.

[Gozuk]

Someone has never been to Crushbone. Or.... Yeah there's a lot of tents.

[brandonb1029]

Someone has never been to Crushbone. Or.... Yeah there's a lot of tents.

Forum warrior and petition warrior... He has no time to play eq.

[skarlorn]

point taken i'm sorry about the tents, that was egregious and ignorant of me. I personally apologize to Brad.

As per the naming convention guidelines, I think it's pretty easy to determine what is in the spirit of the in-game world and what is not. Obviously names like Snareomatic have got to go. Turdbergler I can see your argument for, yet it is still toeing the line. Luckily, it's for the staff to decide.

[brandonb1029]

point taken i'm sorry about the tents, that was egregious and ignorant of me. I personally apologize to Brad.

As per the naming convention guidelines, I think it's pretty easy to determine what is in the spirit of the in-game world and what is not. Obviously names like Snareomatic have got to go. Turdbergler I can see your argument for, yet it is still toeing the line. Luckily, it's for the staff to decide.

I'd go more with if non-hateful names bother you, you need to grow up.

[skarlorn]

Way to bash the staff

[brandonb1029]

Way to bash the staff

They could of closed it if they didn't want opinions.

[skarlorn]

could have*

[brandonb1029]

could have*
I could have used correct word to (intentional now) but didn't.

[skarlorn]

Goontildeath
Mageomatic
Snareomatic
Necromatic
Agonyking

[brandonb1029]

Goontildeath
Mageomatic
Snareomatic
Necromatic
Agonyking

Yea I clearly listed them. Go ahead and report... The only one potentially breaking the rule would be use of the word king and the one I've already stated is breaking the policy. But like I said, could care less. If that's what you do to keep your lonely self from killing yourself, then by all means go for it.

I can only imagine how pathetic a person's life must be to be turned on by reporting everything they see. Keep those lips puckered, I'll keep the names rolling in for you.

[skarlorn]

nerve struck

[brandonb1029]

nerve struck

If that helps you sleep tonight. I'm creating Arfifteen as we speak. Ranger.

[Jimjam]

Please make a decent joke name if you must. I suggest Arrowgone.

[brandonb1029]

Please make a decent joke name if you must. I suggest Arrowgone.

Isn't a joke name... Since 95% of names are violating the naming policy.

[skarlorn]

I hope everyone will pitch in and petition my monk Desertmouse; this is clearly a reference to Muad'Dib, or Duke Paul Atreides from the Dune Universe, and while it may fall into a legal gray area based on the p99 naming conventions, it is a direct reference to OUT OF WORLD CHARACTER WHICH WILL RUIN MY FELLOW ELF'S IMMERSION.

Your petition today could save a person's immersion tomorrow.

Thank you for your time.