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[Jaxon]

Nonsense. You are suggesting someone whose very job description entails examining exactly these sorts of things yet isn't aware of it?

If I had to guess I would say prosecutors spoke to the press because they think the public should know more, and so they say as much as they think they can get away with without ending up in trouble themselves. Maybe that's because they aren't happy that Trump gets to proclaim victory while they're forced to remain silent. Maybe they think that even though they failed to convict Trump by law, they report they wrote tells a story persuasive enough to convict him in the court of popular opinion.

[DinoTriz2]

sorry, i thought that was the 'paid to post4Hillary' thing yall went kookoo about in 2016. he's claimed that.

not true?

It's both a shill farm and "news" source.

Reddit's politics subreddit even allows it, even though it's a well known propaganda operation run by David Brock.

[AenorVZ]

It was plastered all over billboards.

All 48 words? Where?

[Wonkie]

It's both a shill farm and "news" source.

Reddit's politics subreddit even allows it, even though it's a well known propaganda operation run by David Brock.

found it

LOL so cry about it on 20 year old elf sim forum. I'm sure that will make a difference.

https://i.imgur.com/F6ri2of.jpg

[AenorVZ]

Aenor is one of them shareblue guys, if that was real, or at least that's what he claimed.

Never heard of Shareblue. Link to substantiate your claim?

Edit: Actblue is a payment portal. Get your facts straight.

[DMN]

Never heard of Shareblue. Link to substantiate your claim?

Edit: Actblue is a payment portal. Get your facts straight.


Never heard of Shariablue? Hrmmmmmmmmmm.

[Jaxon]

It's both a shill farm and "news" source.

Reddit's politics subreddit even allows it, even though it's a well known propaganda operation run by David Brock.

This is fake news.

r/Politics - Announcement: ShareBlue has been removed from the whitelist for violation of our media disclosure policies.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7szc5h/announcement_shareblue_has_been_removed_from_the/)
They banned it a year ago, but only because ShareBlue was caught breaking the sub's rules against posting their own articles without identifying their affiliation, not because of ShareBlue's partisan leaning.

[Wonkie]

Never heard of Shareblue. Link to substantiate your claim?

Edit: Actblue is a payment portal. Get your facts straight.

how bout more quotes bitch? you heavily implied they were paying you

Judging by those g's that keep rolling in, somebody must agree with me.

all kinds of people agree with you, on tumblr and babe.com.

And actblue.com and paypal.com

yea u name a cucked up website, and you got friends!

ban the shill

[DinoTriz2]

This is fake news.

r/Politics - Announcement: ShareBlue has been removed from the whitelist for violation of our media disclosure policies.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7szc5h/announcement_shareblue_has_been_removed_from_the/)
They banned it a year ago, but only because ShareBlue was caught breaking the sub's rules against posting their own articles without identifying their affiliation, not because of ShareBlue's partisan leaning.

I love how all the top comments are about conspiracies that right wingers got ShareBlue banned lol

[DinoTriz2]

how bout more quotes bitch? you heavily implied they were paying you

It makes sense.

His avatar is of an elephant crying.

He only posts in this thread and talks to no one else.

Open and shut case.

[AenorVZ]

https://i.imgur.com/wpAEzqJ.png

[AenorVZ]

how bout more quotes bitch? you heavily implied they were paying you

Never accepted a dime. I facilitated the collection of right at $250,000 in 2018 for messaging in flippable congressional districts and I did it all on a volunteer basis. You don't have to pay me to be a patriot.

[DinoTriz2]

Never accepted a dime. I facilitated the collection of right at $250,000 in 2018 for messaging in flippable congressional districts and I did it all on a volunteer basis. You don't have to pay me to be a patriot.

Even prostitutes get paid...

Patriots don't take part in dishonest propaganda operations.

Fucking scum.

[AenorVZ]

Sociopaths can't comprehend action in the interest of preserving democracy rather than self interest.

Edit: Although preserving democracy is in my interest.

[DinoTriz2]

Sociopaths can't comprehend action in the interest of preserving democracy rather than self interest.

Edit: Although preserving democracy is in my interest.

You're preverting democracy, not preserving it.

[AenorVZ]

You're too stupid to comprehend democracy.

[Thorondor]

Who is John Galt?

[Wonkie]

Who is John Galt?

a fictional character

[DinoTriz2]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/greg-craig-ex-obama-white-house-counsel-indicted-on-making-false-statements-to-doj.amp)

[Wonkie]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/greg-craig-ex-obama-white-house-counsel-indicted-on-making-false-statements-to-doj.amp)

no new indictments eh? :rolleyes:

[DinoTriz2]

no new indictments eh? :rolleyes:

It's probably from Barr's investigation to be honest.

Gotta love it though, not only do you not get Trump, a Democrat gets arrested lol

[Wonkie]

It's probably from Barr's investigation to be honest.

Gotta love it though, not only do you not get Trump, a Democrat gets arrested lol

After the initial inquiry into Craig and Skadden was opened by Mueller, Craig's case was referred to federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York and then again to prosecutors in the US Attorney's office for the District of Columbia.

liar

[feniin]

“I know nothing about Wikileaks. It’s not my thing,” he said, claiming that he knew little about the detention of Mr Assange.

The president’s comments were striking given the number of times he voiced admiration for Wikileaks in 2016, praising it for revealing embarrassing details about his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

Mr Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr was also in contact with the organisation for several months as it sought his help in promoting the dissemination of that information.

“This just came out,” Trump told an audience in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on October 16 2016. “WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks.”

[DinoTriz2]

After the initial inquiry into Craig and Skadden was opened by Mueller, Craig's case was referred to federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York and then again to prosecutors in the US Attorney's office for the District of Columbia.

liar

Do you know what the word 'probably' means?

[DinoTriz2]

“I know nothing about Wikileaks. It’s not my thing,” he said, claiming that he knew little about the detention of Mr Assange.

The president’s comments were striking given the number of times he voiced admiration for Wikileaks in 2016, praising it for revealing embarrassing details about his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

Mr Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr was also in contact with the organisation for several months as it sought his help in promoting the dissemination of that information.

“This just came out,” Trump told an audience in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on October 16 2016. “WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks.”

OMG LOCK TRUMP UP! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM.

IT'S MUELLER TIME

[Wonkie]

Do you know what the word 'probably' means?

https://i.imgur.com/ZPJrgpG.gif

[feniin]

OMG LOCK TRUMP UP! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM.

IT'S MUELLER TIME

You believe everything that orange buffoon tells you and he lies about EVERYTHING.

[DinoTriz2]

You believe everything that orange buffoon tells you and he lies about EVERYTHING.

If Trump farted the wrong way, you'd think it would be impeachable.

[clevergirl]

Obama is a Kenyan. /report me

[feniin]

If Trump farted the wrong way, you'd think it would be impeachable.

You're the one saying impeachment. I just said he's a verifiable liar and you believe every word he says because you're a simpleminded sheep.

[DMN]

You're the one saying impeachment. I just said he's a verifiable liar and you believe every word he says because you're a simpleminded sheep.

So is virtually every democrat for the last 30-40 years. You should love him. Baaaaaaaaahhhh!

[DinoTriz2]

You're the one saying impeachment. I just said he's a verifiable liar and you believe every word he says because you're a simpleminded sheep.

Oh please, when you shared that news snippet you had an impeachment boner because you had blue balls for weeks.

[feniin]

Oh please, when you shared that news snippet you had an impeachment boner because you had blue balls for weeks.

Are you a psychic too? Explains why you align yourself with charlatans and low-grade carnies.

[America]

It's bad optics to use the word "sheep" during a political argument. Word's cashed out

[DinoTriz2]

Are you a psychic too? Explains why you align yourself with charlatans and low-grade carnies.

Nope. I just know you.

[feniin]

Stay mad and stay poor Feniin

Ill keep winning

Yeah, I bet you are. :rolleyes:

[Raev]

Feniin, I see you are still babbling incoherently about Trump. You are completely missing the point as usual: there is a real chance the inner workings of the Deep State will be revealed.

Is this not immensely thrilling? These people have controlled the entire globe for hundreds if not thousands of years. They must have immense amounts of knowledge that we lack: surely psychology and political science, likely natural sciences, and perhaps even mystic abilities. We can't rule anything out at this point! Will we have to rewrite history as one long banker false flag? How far do they go back? What have they preserved about the origins of the human race? Are aliens already on the planet? Nothing is off the table!

[Wonkie]

Feniin, I see you are still babbling incoherently about Trump.


and perhaps even mystic abilities.

At long last, Raev believes elf magic is real.

[JurisDictum]

Feniin, I see you are still babbling incoherently about Trump. You are completely missing the point as usual: there is a real chance the inner workings of the Deep State will be revealed.

Is this not immensely thrilling? These people have controlled the entire globe for hundreds if not thousands of years. They must have immense amounts of knowledge that we lack: surely psychology and political science, likely natural sciences, and perhaps even mystic abilities. We can't rule anything out at this point! Will we have to rewrite history as one long banker false flag? How far do they go back? What have they preserved about the origins of the human race? Are aliens already on the planet? Nothing is off the table!

I really hope this is a troll you don't actually think Fox News is going to unearth some secret deep state plot.

[feniin]

Basically, Raev and friends want a political purge they can say is the 'deep state' like this is Stalin's USSR. Blame political murder on some fake shadow government to justify it.

It's easier to believe that, even though they control the Executive, Judicial, and half of the Legislature, there is some cabal running things outside of the control of the GOP. It couldn't be that they have no idea how to govern and have installed a mentally compromised con-man as their wanna-be dictator...

[AenorVZ]

Soooo .... Barr testified before Congress that Mueller and the IC are performing the redactions ... which means all of the redactions are related to ongoing cases ... and there are expected to be A LOT of redactions ... which means there are A LOT of ongoing cases. Barr wouldn't perjure himself before Congress.

Get ready for one hell of a week. Fortunately we have our fantasy worlds to escape to when the news cycle gets to be a bit much. For some of us that's EQ. For most of the respondents to this thread it's called FoxNewsQuest. I'm sure when all three Trump traitor tots are indicted along with Jared Kushner we'll hear all about how Trump was 100% exonerated.

[DinoTriz2]

Soooo .... Barr testified before Congress that Mueller and the IC are performing the redactions ... which means all of the redactions are related to ongoing cases ... and there are expected to be A LOT of redactions ... which means there are A LOT of ongoing cases. Barr wouldn't perjure himself before Congress.

Get ready for one hell of a week. Fortunately we have our fantasy worlds to escape to when the news cycle gets to be a bit much. For some of us that's EQ. For most of the respondents to this thread it's called FoxNewsQuest. I'm sure when all three Trump traitor tots are indicted along with Jared Kushner we'll hear all about how Trump was 100% exonerated.

Are you retarded?

Seriously, are you?

You know why they redact information, right?

Hint: It's not because there's still an ongoing investigation.

Jesus Christ, the mental gymnastics you do to convince yourself it's not over...

Seek help. Seriously. You're mentally fucked in the head.

[DinoTriz2]

https://youtu.be/T1XgFsitnQw

[Wonkie]

Are you retarded?

Seriously, are you?

You know why they redact information, right?

Hint: It's not because there's still an ongoing investigation.

Jesus Christ, the mental gymnastics you do to convince yourself it's not over...

Seek help. Seriously. You're mentally fucked in the head.

nice gaslighting champ

[DinoTriz2]

nice gaslighting champ

No, I'm actually being serious.

Either he doesn't understand how or why they redact information or he's seriously mentally unhinged.

If a book fell off my nightstand and I got really excited about it because I honestly felt that was a sign I was going to win the lottery, there would be something wrong with me mentally.

[Wonkie]

No, I'm actually being serious.

Either he doesn't understand how or why they redact information or he's seriously mentally unhinged.

If a book fell off my nightstand and I got really excited about it because I honestly felt that was a sign I was going to win the lottery, there would be something wrong with me mentally.

im not sure more gaslighting is the sterling rebuttal you think it is

[DinoTriz2]

im not sure more gaslighting is the sterling rebuttal you think it is

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's ignorant, not insane.

But ya know, sometimes people do go crazy. It's not gaslighting when it's true.

People have had this narrative crammed down their throat every day for the past few years, from organizations they felt they could trust.

Only to be left with nothing and the story bullshit.

That isn't exactly healthy for someone's mental state.

[Wonkie]

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's ignorant, not insane.

But ya know, sometimes people do go crazy. It's not gaslighting when it's true.

People have had this narrative crammed down their throat every day for the past few years, from organizations they felt they could trust.

Only to be left with nothing and the story bullshit.

That isn't exactly healthy for someone's mental state.

did you forget aenor is on the take? pretty sure he knows dude

[DinoTriz2]

did you forget aenor is on the take? pretty sure he knows dude

It would make sense.

He only sporadically comments in this one thread and then vanishes for awhile, not engaging with anyone.

I hope he's actually a dedicated troll.

If so, he got me good. I'd bow down to his talents.

[AenorVZ]

Are you retarded?

You're preverting democracy, not preserving it.

"Preverting" is not a word.

Move to resolved.

[DinoTriz2]

"Preverting" is not a word.

Move to resolved.

The ol' Grammar Nazi strategy...

Looks like he's run out of legitimate arguments.

Poor guy is just flailing around now, trying to hang onto any little bit of victory he can muster.

Sad.

[FatherSioux]

I'm trying to use more mustard instead of ketchup.

[DinoTriz2]

I'm trying to use more mustard instead of ketchup.

muster some more mustard

[DinoTriz2]

Mueller Report was released to the public today.

CNN is trying to say Trump colluded with Russia because they enjoyed the fact that Clinton's emails were hacked.

I guess 60 million+ citizens then also colluded with Russia?

CNN most likely pulled a muscle with that stretch.

[Wonkie]

this is pretty damning

[DinoTriz2]

this is pretty damning

Lol nice try, CNN

[Wonkie]

McGahn resigned to prevent the firing of Mueller :)

The Saturday Night Attempted Massacre

[DinoTriz2]

McGahn resigned to prevent the firing of Mueller :)

The Saturday Night Attempted Massacre

No, and even McGahn himself said that wasn't accurate.

Good job falling for bullshit though.

[feniin]

No, and even McGahn himself said that wasn't accurate.

Good job falling for bullshit though.

It's in the report. Are you saying the report is all lies? You can't have it both ways.

[DinoTriz2]

It's in the report. Are you saying the report is all lies? You can't have it both ways.

No, The theory is in the report.

They didn't prove that Trump said that to McGahn.

It's essentially the same thing that happened with Cohen.

McGahn interpreted Trump in a way he thought was a command to fire Mueller. McGahn also admitted Trump didn't even mention Mueller by name.

[feniin]

The theory is in the report.

They didn't prove that Trump said that to McGahn.

It's essentially the same thing that happened with Cohen.

McGahn interpreted Trump in a way he thought was a command to fire Mueller. McGahn also admitted Trump didn't even mention Mueller by name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5j9RHCBpM

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5j9RHCBpM

Nice feelings about the scenario. Maybe Mueller should've hired your feelings to carry out the investigation?

Talk about semi-sentient shitposting...

[feniin]

Nice feelings about the scenario. Maybe Mueller should've hired your feelings to carry out the investigation?

Talk about semi-sentient shitposting...

Your defense of Trump and his bullshit is the most ridiculous thing. You are so absolutely certain that a millionaire conman from New York is the most honest person in politics despite the years of evidence tying him to racist sentiment, shady business dealings, close criminal friends/associates, and outright, verifiable lies.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that he would act as wanna-be mob boss? It's everything he wants - unquestionable loyalty, unchecked power, money, and the belief that he has all his business in order to the outside world.

[maskedmelon]

^mad

[DinoTriz2]

Your defense of Trump and his bullshit is the most ridiculous thing. You are so absolutely certain that a millionaire conman from New York is the most honest person in politics despite the years of evidence tying him to racist sentiment, shady business dealings, close criminal friends/associates, and outright, verifiable lies.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that he would act as wanna-be mob boss? It's everything he wants - unquestionable loyalty, unchecked power, money, and the belief that he has all his business in order to the outside world.

Why is it so hard? Because there's no evidence.

I don't let confirmation bias control my life.

If I don't have absolute proof, I don't do something as destructive as support impeachment.

Law and due process exists for a reason.

It keeps emotional people with an agenda from ruining people's lives.

I like that system. We should continue to abide by it.

The fact that you spent the last two years+ being lied to about collusion should bother you, but it doesn't.

That's how broken people like you have become.

That doesn't make you think at all?

You just learned someone lied to you for two years straight and you brush it away like nothing and continue to consume their information.

It's really sad.

[feniin]

Why is it so hard? Because there's no evidence.

I don't let confirmation bias control my life.

If I don't have absolute proof, I don't do something as destructive as support impeachment.

Law and due process exists for a reason.

It keeps emotional people with an agenda from ruining people's lives.

I like that system. We should continue to abide by it.

The fact that you spent the last two years+ being lied to about collusion should bother you, but it doesn't.

That's how broken people like you have become.

That doesn't make you think at all?

You just learned someone lied to you for two years straight and you brush it away like nothing and continue to consume their information.

It's really sad.

Nope. When the dust settles, Trump will be remembered for selling out the country for profit and lying at every step of the way. Hope you're ready to work on your denials of supporting him along the way.

[DinoTriz2]

Nope. When the dust settles, Trump will be remembered for selling out the country for profit and lying at every step of the way. Hope you're ready to work on your denials of supporting him along the way.

So your rebuttal is "Nope".

lol alright, bud.

He will be remembered that way by hyper partisans who will think that no matter what happens to Trump.

[maskedmelon]

Nope. When the dust settles, Trump will be remembered for selling out the country for profit and lying at every step of the way. Hope you're ready to work on your denials of supporting him along the way.

but what if that doesn't happen though? how dumb will you feel for making such assertions and how much based language will you spew in frustration?

[DinoTriz2]

but what if that doesn't happen though? how dumb will you feel for making such assertions and how much based language will you spew in frustration?

Leftists don't know what "self reflection" is.

[AenorVZ]

did you forget aenor is on the take? pretty sure he knows dude

There's big money in propagandizing the smattering of dimwits on these forums. I'm posting this from a beach in Tahiti.

[Thorondor]

Nope. When the dust settles, Trump will be remembered for selling out the country for profit and lying at every step of the way. Hope you're ready to work on your denials of supporting him along the way.


And Philippe will be remebered for covering up the erasure of his country's cultural heritage whilst being ran over roughshod by an invading force.

Or wait....he will be erased from the annals of history as well once the initial deed is accomplished.

Europe following in the footsteps of the Library of Alexandria

[Wonkie]

There's big money in propagandizing the smattering of dimwits on these forums. I'm posting this from a beach in Tahiti.

*clicks Submit*

[DinoTriz2]

There's big money in propagandizing the smattering of dimwits on these forums. I'm posting this from a beach in Tahiti.

David Brock: "Get Aenor on the phone. NOW! We have an emergency on the 20 year old elf simulator forums!"

Aenor: "I'm on it!"

Aenor descends from the sky at an alarming rate, re-entry flames surround his trench coat. His Sketchers slam the asphalt, cracking the pavement like a spiderweb, he lands on one knee like a total badass. Dust settles as he slowly looks up while lightly grasping his fedora. With a cocky grin, he says:

Aenor: "I'm in, Boss."

[AenorVZ]

Are you retarded?

Hint: It's not because there's still an ongoing investigation.

Jesus Christ, the mental gymnastics you do to convince yourself it's not over...

"Harm to ongoing matter."

Thanks for the comic relief.

[DinoTriz2]

"Harm to ongoing matter."

Thanks for the comic relief.

So Mueller had access to the redacted information.

But still decided not to recommend to indict Trump or his family.

Soooo, what's your explanation for that?

[Wonkie]

On October 30, 2016, Michael Cohen received a text from Russian businessman Giorgi Rtskhiladze that said, “Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there’s anything else. Just so you know...” Rtskhiladze said “tapes” referred to compromising tapes of Trump rumored to be held by persons associated with the Russian real estate conglomerate Crocus Group, which had helped host the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Russia.

[DinoTriz2]

So receiving a random text message from someone constitutes collusion?

Why did Mueller say there was no collusion?

[Wonkie]

So receiving a random text message from someone constitutes collusion?

Why did Mueller say there was no collusion?

it's real you saw it

[DinoTriz2]

A great legal debunk of Trump's obstruction of justice arguments (https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1118643987487887361)

[AenorVZ]

So Mueller had access to the redacted information.

But still decided not to recommend to indict Trump or his family.

Soooo, what's your explanation for that?

Appendix D: Dozens of redactions due to harm to ongoing matters:

https://www.scribd.com/document/406727673/Searchable-Mueller-Report-It-was-OCRed-by-Quartz-using-Adobe-Acrobat#from_embed

Really? Mueller had access to redacted information that he was appointed to oversee the production of?

[AenorVZ]

*clicks Submit*

Reported for sarcasm? You might need to stay off the mean streets of elf sim forum snowflake.

[JurisDictum]

The ongoing obsession with Mueller among Republicans continues.

10822

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/YTv04RG.jpg

[maskedmelon]

what if Barr was being honest and objective though?

[Wonkie]

what if Barr was being honest and objective though?

if i had wheels i'd be a wagon

[DinoTriz2]

what if Barr was being honest and objective though?

[DinoTriz2]

Appendix D: Dozens of redactions due to harm to ongoing matters:

https://www.scribd.com/document/406727673/Searchable-Mueller-Report-It-was-OCRed-by-Quartz-using-Adobe-Acrobat#from_embed

Really? Mueller had access to redacted information that he was appointed to oversee the production of?

Yeah, so if that redacted information is damning (like you're implying) and Mueller had access to that information then why didn't Mueller recommend indictments?

[maskedmelon]

if i had wheels i'd be a wagon

what if your wheels were many and nestled in treads though? surely you'd not be a wagon!

[DinoTriz2]

And what if your wagon was telling the truth about the Mueller Report?

[America]

if my ratings wheel were turning I would conserve its momentum

[DinoTriz2]

I think it's funny that the report omits that Greenberg was an FBI informant on page 69.

[AenorVZ]

Mueller likely decided that it was up to Congress to pursue impeachment if it found sufficient grounds in his findings. Again, I'll spell it out for you. There are dozens of sealed indictments. Just because there will be no "further" indictments from the SCO does not mean it has concluded its work. The report shows dozens of redactions due to ongoing matters. It appears that Jr. IS INDICTED. Impeachment proceedings will take care of the rest, don't you worry.

[DinoTriz2]

Mueller likely decided that it was up to Congress to pursue impeachment if it found sufficient grounds in his findings. Again, I'll spell it out for you. There are dozens of sealed indictments. Just because there will be no "further" indictments from the SCO does not mean it has concluded its work. The report shows dozens of redactions due to ongoing matters. It appears that Jr. IS INDICTED. Impeachment proceedings will take care of the rest, don't you worry.

Mueller specifically said he doesn't recommend indictments for collusion.

Why would he say that if he was leaving it to Congress?

[AenorVZ]

Collusion is not a part of the criminal code. There is no crime of collusion. You can't indict for collusion.

FoxNewsQuest.

[DinoTriz2]

Collusion is not a part of the criminal code. There is no crime of collusion. You can't indict for collusion.

FoxNewsQuest.

Cool, so conspiracy then.

Trump didn't conspire with Russia.

Mueller said so.

[DinoTriz2]

Open and shut case...

https://i.imgur.com/YMWHmMz_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[maskedmelon]

you know for all the hate it gets, Fox News has some pretty hawt presentation graphics. liek the color scheme and how they lay it all out and stuff.

also, Tucker Carlson is fun to watch.

[DinoTriz2]

Yeah Tucker is awesome

[maskedmelon]

Yeah Tucker is awesome

[DinoTriz2]

As the report is out, we're finding out that news stories the media pushed are confirmed fake, like the Buzzfeed News story about Cohen. They even doubled down when Mueller refuted their story (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/robert-mueller-report-refutes-buzzfeed-claim-that-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress/)

[DinoTriz2]

HAHAHAHA (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/15/admit-it-fox-news-has-been-right-all-along/)

[Wonkie]

HAHAHAHA (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/15/admit-it-fox-news-has-been-right-all-along/)

Opinions

[America]

Tucker's a great showman. he's the only thing I use hotel TVs for other than room service. Loved Bill O'Reilly too, RIP (his podcast thing is kinda sad; he's sort of doing this Andy Rooney thing now and he does it well but it's still sad)

[AenorVZ]

Mueller said so.

Link?

[JurisDictum]

10823

[DinoTriz2]

Link?

Apparently you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks... (https://www.lifezette.com/2019/03/mueller-submits-his-report-is-not-recommending-any-further-indictments/)

[DinoTriz2]

10823

O'Reilly is apex boomer.

Also, what is this? 10 years old?

[JurisDictum]

O'Reilly is apex boomer.

Also, what is this? 10 years old?

O'Reilly is old.

[DinoTriz2]

O'Reilly is old.

Nah, he's a teenager I believe

[JurisDictum]

Nah, he's a teenager I believe

Old political commentators with old propaganda protecting old money.

Maybe you are just getting old Dino.

According to Nielsen TV data through mid-January, the average age of Fox News viewers is 68-years-old.

Opposed to other channels on the dying medium of TV

The average viewers at MSNBC and CNN are 60, and the average is 62-64 for the broadcast networks.

Not only are Fox News viewers old, they're almost all white. Rich points out that only 1.1 per cent of Fox News viewers are black. That's a far lower number than other news networks.

MSNCB has a 25 per cent black audience and CNN has 14 per cent black audience

[Thorondor]

Age is just a social construct. Until the DNA degenerates into the cancerous, and/or the vessel otherwise breaks down.

[Wonkie]

Apparently you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks... (https://www.lifezette.com/2019/03/mueller-submits-his-report-is-not-recommending-any-further-indictments/)

Sealed and/or referred.

720

[AenorVZ]

"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law." - Robert Mueller

[DinoTriz2]

Sealed and/or referred.

720

I hear Clinton can still win as well :D

[DinoTriz2]

"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law." - Robert Mueller

Congress can impeach him for being left handed.

Doesn't mean shit.

[Wonkie]

I hear Clinton can still win as well :D

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-mystery-what-are-12-criminal-referrals-n996166

Over the course of its sprawling 22-month investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, the special counsel's team referred 14 criminal cases to other offices, Mueller's 448-page report revealed.

Only two of those referrals — one involving former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, the other former Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig — are public at this point

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-mystery-what-are-12-criminal-referrals-n996166

Excellent, more opportunities for you to have your hopes crushed.

[Wonkie]

HAHAHAHA (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/15/admit-it-fox-news-has-been-right-all-along/)

Same guy wrote this dreck

At the end of the day, those using this report as political fodder should keep in mind that only the first shoe has dropped. Yet to come is Barr’s probe of how this all began, with what he has said might have been “spying” on the Trump campaign in 2016. Already in the works is a Justice Department inspector general report involving the notorious Christopher Steele dossier. Those who spend the next few weeks making political hay with the Mueller report should keep in mind the other shoe that may well be dropping soon.

[Wonkie]

Excellent, more opportunities for you to have your hopes crushed.

*knock knock* SDNY COME OUT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN

[Wonkie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VjoRqRkRM

[DinoTriz2]

*knock knock* SDNY COME OUT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN

Think about it, Mueller was given access to every resource he wanted, had more than two years to investigate and he still couldn't come up with anything.

What makes you think the SDNY will?

[DinoTriz2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VjoRqRkRM

"We were proven wrong, so let's look at the report and embellish and exaggerate what it says."

[AenorVZ]

The investigation "established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts." - Robert S. Mueller

The investigation didn't conclude that a conspiracy took place but show me where it says "no conspiracy took place."

[Wonkie]

Think about it, Mueller was given access to every resource he wanted, had more than two years to investigate and he still couldn't come up with anything.

What makes you think the SDNY will?

jurisdiction, you idiot.

[Wonkie]

"We were proven wrong, so let's look at the report and embellish and exaggerate what it says."

piss tape is real

[DinoTriz2]

jurisdiction, you idiot.

Cool, so Mueller didn't investigate collusion or obstruction then?

[DinoTriz2]

piss tape is real

Is Tupac alive too?

[Wonkie]

Cool, so Mueller didn't investigate collusion or obstruction then?

some things are legal federally but illegal in a state (8

[DinoTriz2]

some things are legal federally but illegal in a state (8

And yet Mueller didn't mention any evidence of local infractions...

Weird...

[Wonkie]

And yet Mueller didn't mention any evidence of local infractions...

Weird...

[REDACTED]

[DinoTriz2]

[REDACTED]

And also, a state having local laws on colluding with a foreign power

LOL

[Wonkie]

And also, a state having local laws on colluding with a foreign power

LOL

The California Constitution states that "treason against the State consists only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort.

i hope that answers your question

[DinoTriz2]

i hope that answers your question

Cool California law.

We're talking about NY here.

Lemme know when you find a law more strict than the federal lol

[Wonkie]

Cool California law.

We're talking about NY here.

Lemme know when you find a law more strict than the federal lol

have you tried googling it?

[Jaxon]

The investigation "established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts." - Robert S. Mueller

The investigation didn't conclude that a conspiracy took place but show me where it says "no conspiracy took place."

It's not to job of law enforcement to prove that things didn't happen, because that's impossible. All they can do is look at the evidence there is and determine whether or not it's sufficient to prove conspiracy, and it Trump's case it did not. So in the eyes of the law, no conspiracy took place.

Also regarding that quote from the report, there's nothing criminal about Trump figuring out that Democrat emails getting leaked would help him win. Having a standard that low kind of makes everyone a criminal.

[DinoTriz2]

have you tried googling it?

Yep, there's nothing there.

[DinoTriz2]

It's not to job of law enforcement to prove that things didn't happen, because that's impossible. All they can do is look at the evidence there is and determine whether or not it's sufficient to prove conspiracy, and it Trump's case it did not. So in the eyes of the law, no conspiracy took place.

Also regarding that quote from the report, there's nothing criminal about Trump figuring out that Democrat emails getting leaked would help him win. Having a standard that low kind of makes everyone a criminal.

[DinoTriz2]

Link?

Also Page 2 of the Mueller Report he addresses this.

[DinoTriz2]

piss tape is real

"Rtskhiladze later admitted he had been told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen, the report says."

[Wonkie]

"Rtskhiladze later admitted he had been told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen, the report says."

so we're just taking his word for it? :rolleyes:

[Jaxon]

Obviously the tape will stay under wraps as long as Trump decides to play ball with the Russians so you have a nice, neat, self-perpetuating conspiracy going for you there.

[DinoTriz2]

so we're just taking his word for it? :rolleyes:

That's in the report.

So I guess?

[DinoTriz2]

After reading a good chunk of the Report, I’m convinced now that the main goal was not to indict President Trump or his team but rather to sow doubt for the 2020 race and to cover up Hillary’s crimes. Here’s the rundown:

Sowing Doubt:

Mueller’s team complains on Page 10 about lack of evidence and claims it prevented them from reaching a verdict. This is completely baseless. After interviewing hundreds of witnesses and tens thousands of hours of work, no evidence was found. That indicates President Trump and his team are 100% innocent. They know this too, so they are pretending the goal was to prove innocence. That is never how a prosecution works.

There is no legal reason for Mueller to include the phrase on Page 78, “This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency.” That’s hearsay as it came from someone else and there is no legal justification for its inclusion in the document when the goal was to determine whether a crime was committed or not. It’s a salacious quote for the media and Democrats.

(incidentally, if you want to know how we know Trump’s team did NOT collude with the Russians, check out page 145 where Hope Hicks and Jared Kushner try rather ineptly and humorously to verify an email and phone call from Russian officials. We’re supposed to believe they were secretly colluding behind closed doors with the country? Give me a break).

Cover up:

On Page 36 the Report insists that the DNC was hacked by the GRU. There is no indication that Mueller or his team personally reviewed the physical DNC server or what kind of investigation was conducted. The DNC refused to show the FBI their server upon request. To date, the only people who are known to have had access to the server is a private company called CrowdStrike.

On Page 48 Mueller insists that Seth Rich is not the source of the emails but fails to produce any reason why Seth Rich is not the source. It was a mere namedrop.

Seymour Hersh is not mentioned at all. Hersh is a NYTimes reporter who named Seth Rich as the source of the Wikileaks emails.

On Page 25 Mueller’s team played up the influence of alleged Russian Facebook and Twitter ads while downplaying their pro-Hillary posts.

On Page 152, Mueller claimed Russian government officials and businessmen immediately went about to work with Trump after he won. What Mueller doesn’t appear to mention is that alleged Russian accounts worked against Trump as soon as he won. In fact, they were promoting Mueller and the Russian investigation (imagine that!). You can see evidence of the tweets here and here.

There’s not a single mention of Tony Podesta or Podesta Group

The Steele dossier appears to be mentioned only in passing. No detailed investigation into the veracity or origins. Remember this is supposedly a dossier with a source directly from the Kremlin. Seems relevant.

No apparent mention in the entire document about the State Department emails that were hacked in 2016. It seriously appears that Russia did hack those (the official who was hacked was tasked with studying Russia). Why no mention of this very real hack?

There you have it. I know this report vindicates Trump, but it’s also a massive coverup. They want to bury Seth Rich for good and they want to cement in the minds of every American that Russia hacked the election to help Trump while downplaying the anti-Trump activities of these other alleged Russian accounts.

[AenorVZ]

It's not to job of law enforcement to prove that things didn't happen, because that's impossible. All they can do is look at the evidence there is and determine whether or not it's sufficient to prove conspiracy.

Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.

[Wonkie]

Obviously the tape will stay under wraps as long as Trump decides to play ball with the Russians so you have a nice, neat, self-perpetuating conspiracy going for you there.

:)

[AenorVZ]

After reading a good chunk of the Report, I’m convinced now that the main goal was not to indict President Trump or his team but rather to sow doubt for the 2020 race and to cover up Hillary’s crimes.

LMAO nobody cares. Hillary isn't running for anything. If you coulda, you woulda. Impotence.

[DinoTriz2]

Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.

Read Page 2 of the Report.

It proves you wrong.

[DMN]

Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.

Congress doesn't have any prosecutorial powers, you fuckng retard.

[AenorVZ]

Read Page 2 of the Report.

"A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts." - Page 2

[AenorVZ]

Congress doesn't have any prosecutorial powers, you fuckng retard.

This is what I mean when I say smattering of dimwits. This vegetable apparently skipped school they day civics class talked about impeachment.

[Jaxon]

Law enforcement doesn't prove conspiracy. Law enforcement investigates and determines if there is sufficient evidence to recommend the case to a prosecutorial body for potential charges where the charges will then be proven or disproven in the appropriate venue. In this case, the venue is Congress. Haven't you ever watched Law & Order? As per the quote in my previous post, Mueller left it to the discretion of Congress to pursue it further, just as any decent investigator would.

Mueller's report was made to the AG, not congress. The AG is the prosecutorial body. It was the AG's decision on whether or not to prosecute, and he isn't because the evidence isn't there. If he had decided to prosecute it would be his job to prove it happened. The only thing that Congress can do is impeach, which isn't going to happen.

[Mead]

who's winning so far?

[DMN]

This is what I mean when I say smattering of dimwits. This vegetable apparently skipped school they day civics class talked about impeachment.

Dear dipshit, impeachment can only occur when the president has been found guilty of a crime via the executive branch.

[Jaxon]

Dear dipshit, impeachment can only occur when the president has been found guilty of a crime via the executive branch.

No, that's wrong.

[DinoTriz2]

"A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts." - Page 2

So you didn't read page 2 then lol

[America]

who's winning so far?

:D;):cool:

mead is COOL yall are lame

[AenorVZ]

Mueller's report was made to the AG, not congress. The AG is the prosecutorial body. It was the AG's decision on whether or not to prosecute, and he isn't because the evidence isn't there. If he had decided to prosecute it would be his job to prove it happened. The only thing that Congress can do is impeach, which isn't going to happen.

The Attorney General is the chief LAW ENFORCEMENT officer. So the SCO is like the detectives in an episode of Law and Order. They investigate and then present their findings to the prosecutors, who then decide if charges will be filed. How many of the dozens of indictments produced by the SCO did the AG prosecute? None, because that's not his role. Impeach isn't the only thing Congress can do. It can also investigate, and since the composition of the House was changed during the midterms, the Intelligence Committee can look at basically whatever it wants.

We're all aware that Republicans control the Senate and would never vote to convict Trump on impeachment charges forwarded by the House. That's why I've recommended to my colleagues to wait until the close of session just before the next election to recommend articles of impeachment to the Senate so that the current Senate doesn't have time to conduct the impeachment. The entire election then becomes a referendum on Trump. Do you want to re-elect a lame duck president who could face impeachment by a Democrat-controlled Senate after the election? Oh, and we'll also be impeaching the rapist supreme court justice. He doesn't have anything like the immunity of a president.

[AenorVZ]

So you didn't read page 2 then lol

Yep. Read it. Have posted excerpts. If you think there's a specific section that proves anything, post away.

[AenorVZ]

Dear dipshit, impeachment can only occur when the president has been found guilty of a crime via the executive branch.

Holy shit you're fucking stupid.

[DMN]

No, that's wrong.

No it's not. You can't charge a sitting president with a crime. You have to demonstrate the crime was committed and is qualified under the articles of impeachment.

[Wonkie]

No it's not. You can't charge a sitting president with a crime. You have to demonstrate the crime was committed and is qualified under the articles of impeachment.

Impeachment is just a vote. As is conviction.

Neither is "via the executive branch" like you dumbly said.

[DinoTriz2]

Yep. Read it. Have posted excerpts. If you think there's a specific section that proves anything, post away.

Doesn't appear that you have based on your previous comment.

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/p2HDnnt_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[DMN]

Holy shit you're fucking stupid.

Well, i am apparently dumb enough to respond to a person who seems to be an experiment in artificial stupidity, so perhaps there is some truth there somewhere.

[DMN]

Impeachment is just a vote. As is conviction.

Neither is "via the executive branch" like you dumbly said.

You aren't "convicted" in impeachment. You are simply removed from office.

[Wonkie]

You aren't "convicted" in impeachment. You are simply removed from office.

That is incorrect.

[DMN]

That is incorrect.

no, you are just a fucking moron. A presidet cannot be convicted of a crime while in office. This is like second grade civics.

[DinoTriz2]

That is incorrect.

No, he's right. It doesn't remove someone from office.

[Wonkie]

no, you are just a fucking moron. A presidet cannot be convicted of a crime while in office. This is like second grade civics.

Yes, yes it is.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Senate_Impeachment_Role.htm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

The Senate becomes jury and judge, except in the case of presidential impeachment trials when the chief justice of the United States presides. The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official is removal from office. In some cases, disqualification from holding future offices is also imposed. There is no appeal.

[DMN]

Yes, yes it is.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Senate_Impeachment_Role.htm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

The Senate becomes jury and judge, except in the case of presidential impeachment trials when the chief justice of the United States presides. The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official is removal from office. In some cases, disqualification from holding future offices is also imposed. There is no appeal.

Of impeachment, which is not a cimre, fuckboy.

[DinoTriz2]

Yes, yes it is.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Senate_Impeachment_Role.htm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus

The Senate becomes jury and judge, except in the case of presidential impeachment trials when the chief justice of the United States presides. The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official is removal from office. In some cases, disqualification from holding future offices is also imposed. There is no appeal.

No, no it is not.

"Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. It does not mean removal from office; it is only a statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law."

[Wonkie]

No, no it is not.

"Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. It does not mean removal from office; it is only a statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law."

The first step in the process and the successful process are both called 'impeachment'.

[DinoTriz2]

The first step in the process and the successful process are both called 'impeachment'.

Wut?

No, don't try to bullshit your way out of this because you just got dunked on.

[Wonkie]

Dear dipshit, impeachment can only occur when the president has been found guilty of a crime via the executive branch.

No it's not. You can't charge a sitting president with a crime. You have to demonstrate the crime was committed and is qualified under the articles of impeachment.

You aren't "convicted" in impeachment. You are simply removed from office.

no, you are just a fucking moron. A presidet cannot be convicted of a crime while in office. This is like second grade civics.

Of impeachment, which is not a cimre, fuckboy.

This is me getting dunked, apparently?

[DinoTriz2]

The first step in the process and the successful process are both called 'impeachment'.

"Once an individual is impeached, he or she must then face the possibility of conviction by a legislative vote, which judgment entails removal from office."

First step is impeachment, second is conviction.

[Wonkie]

"Once an individual is impeached, he or she must then face the possibility of conviction by a legislative vote, which judgment entails removal from office."

First step is impeachment, second is conviction.

You aren't "convicted" in impeachment. You are simply removed from office.

[DinoTriz2]

We're not talking about him.

We're talking about you being wrong.

[DMN]

:D you are delightfully stupid :D

Good argument. So there must be a president who was convicted of a crime that you can cite, right?

[Wonkie]

Good argument. So there must be a president who was convicted of a crime that you can cite, right?

Of impeachment, which is not a cimre, fuckboy.

[DMN]

Impeachment is not a crime you dumb fucking moron.

[Wonkie]

Impeachment is not a crime you dumb fucking moron.

Then why is it prosecuted?

[feniin]

Barr lied today about multiple aspects of the Mueller report and mischaracterized it in his summary.

Today he said that Mueller did not reach a decision about indictment based on the OLC opinion. The Mueller report explicitly States that as the reason he didn't make a decision.

Barr said he didn't know if Mueller intended for Congress to receive the information. The report states clearly that they didn't want to interfere with Constitutional means of dealing with Presidential misconduct. The Constitution grants all of those powers to the legislative branch explicitly.

Barr stated that we don't open grand jury investigations for the purpose of giving information to Congress, ignoring the fact that both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton had grand jury information used by Congress to force Nixon out and impeach Clinton.

Barr implied that in his summary that Mueller didn't make a decision on obstruction because the decision was too difficult and that there was evidence that exonerated Trump of obstruction. I see nothing exculpatory in Mueller's report on obstruction and they are very clear and firm as to why they didn't indict or decline to indict on obstruction.

Barr's only statements and actions with regards to the Mueller report have been riddled with misinformation and outright lies designed to mislead the public about the nature and extent of the investigation.

One of Nixon's articles of impeachment contained exactly that charge. He lied to the American people about the nature and extent of the investigation while also falsely claiming that it had all but been completed. Both Trump and Barr have done this, publicly as Nixon did, and should both be removed from office.

Barr's only purpose with regards to the Mueller investigation has been to deceive and mislead the American people and Congress.

[Wonkie]

Dear dipshit, impeachment can only occur when the president has been found guilty of a crime via the executive branch.

[DMN]

The definition of prosecutorial :

relating to the institution and conducting of legal proceedings against someone in respect of a criminal charge.

What is the criminal charge and where is the indictment?

[Wonkie]

The definition of prosecutorial :

relating to the institution and conducting of legal proceedings against someone in respect of a criminal charge.

What is the criminal charge and where is the indictment?

The impeachment is the indictment. Trump is a criminal.

[DMN]

The impeachment is the indictment. Trump is a criminal.

AKA there is no indictment and no criminal charge.

[Jaxon]

Words.

All these guys are telling you you're wrong, maybe you should listen.


The Attorney General is the chief LAW ENFORCEMENT officer. So the SCO is like the detectives in an episode of Law and Order. They investigate and then present their findings to the prosecutors, who then decide if charges will be filed. How many of the dozens of indictments produced by the SCO did the AG prosecute? None, because that's not his role.

Ultimately the decision about whether or not to prosecute lies with the AG because he's the head of the Department of Justice and oversees all the US Attorneys including the SCO and Mueller. Normally prosecutors are left to do their own thing but the AG can direct them and countermand their decisions should he choose. With regards to Trump, Mueller declined to prosecute on collusion and asked Barr to decide on obstruction, and Barr declined to prosecute.


Impeach isn't the only thing Congress can do. It can also investigate, and since the composition of the House was changed during the midterms, the Intelligence Committee can look at basically whatever it wants.

We're all aware that Republicans control the Senate and would never vote to convict Trump on impeachment charges forwarded by the House. That's why I've recommended to my colleagues to wait until the close of session just before the next election to recommend articles of impeachment to the Senate so that the current Senate doesn't have time to conduct the impeachment. The entire election then becomes a referendum on Trump. Do you want to re-elect a lame duck president who could face impeachment by a Democrat-controlled Senate after the election? Oh, and we'll also be impeaching the rapist supreme court justice. He doesn't have anything like the immunity of a president.

This is a fantasy too and is not going to happen. You do know there's ~2 months between the election and the new congress taking office, right? In any case, if the House wants to try to slam dunk an impeachment Trump can reconvene congress and the Senate's trial will last no longer than it takes to cast a vote.

Congress can investigate all it wants but no one will care because they're not credible like the DOJ is.

[AenorVZ]

Doesn't appear that you have based on your previous comment.

So site the section you wish to discuss. You're not exactly pwning the libs rn.

[AenorVZ]

In any case, if the House wants to try to slam dunk an impeachment Trump can reconvene congress and the Senate's trial will last no longer than it takes to cast a vote.

Congress can investigate all it wants but no one will care because they're not credible like the DOJ is.

This is exactly the outcome I'm hoping for. If the Senate clears trump without performing any due diligence, that will help us flip the Senate.

[Wonkie]

he's already discredited as a russian stooge in the minds of the laiety

operation muller successful

[DinoTriz2]

So site the section you wish to discuss. You're not exactly pwning the libs rn.

It's the entire 2nd page.

As long as you're continuing to be retarded, I won't have to pwn the libs because you're doing a great job pwning yourself.

[DinoTriz2]

Barr lied today about multiple aspects of the Mueller report and mischaracterized it in his summary.

Today he said that Mueller did not reach a decision about indictment based on the OLC opinion. The Mueller report explicitly States that as the reason he didn't make a decision.

Barr said he didn't know if Mueller intended for Congress to receive the information. The report states clearly that they didn't want to interfere with Constitutional means of dealing with Presidential misconduct. The Constitution grants all of those powers to the legislative branch explicitly.

Barr stated that we don't open grand jury investigations for the purpose of giving information to Congress, ignoring the fact that both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton had grand jury information used by Congress to force Nixon out and impeach Clinton.

Barr implied that in his summary that Mueller didn't make a decision on obstruction because the decision was too difficult and that there was evidence that exonerated Trump of obstruction. I see nothing exculpatory in Mueller's report on obstruction and they are very clear and firm as to why they didn't indict or decline to indict on obstruction.

Barr's only statements and actions with regards to the Mueller report have been riddled with misinformation and outright lies designed to mislead the public about the nature and extent of the investigation.

One of Nixon's articles of impeachment contained exactly that charge. He lied to the American people about the nature and extent of the investigation while also falsely claiming that it had all but been completed. Both Trump and Barr have done this, publicly as Nixon did, and should both be removed from office.

Barr's only purpose with regards to the Mueller investigation has been to deceive and mislead the American people and Congress.

Whoever wrote this (not you) is stretching beyond belief.

[Jaxon]

This is exactly the outcome I'm hoping for. If the Senate clears trump without performing any due diligence, that will help us flip the Senate.

It would be viewed as a proportional and appropriate response to playing games; if the House isn't going to take impeachment seriously, why should the Senate? It would be a really bad move for the Democrats I hope they take you up on your suggestion.

[feniin]

Whoever wrote this (not you) is stretching beyond belief.

reddit copy pasta - explain where they're stretching? seems like a reasonable conclusion to anyone with eyes, ears, and a functioning brain.

[DMN]

This is exactly the outcome I'm hoping for. If the Senate clears trump without performing any due diligence, that will help us flip the Senate.

Worked real well for the republicans impeaching rapist/serial killer Clinton.

[feniin]

Over the weekend, Republicans for the Rule of Law will air an advertisement on Fox News urging GOP lawmakers to hold Trump accountable for “lying” and “obstructing justice,” like Republicans had done with former Democratic President Bill Clinton more than 20 years ago, when a GOP-led House succesfully impeached Clinton on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. Clinton was subsequently acquitted on all charges after a trial in the Senate.

“The Mueller Report revealed multiple instances of President Trump lying and obstructing justice. Twenty years ago, Republicans denounced a Democratic president for lying and obstructing justice,” the 34-second advertisement’s opening reads, before cutting to old clips of GOP lawmakers condemning Clinton on Capitol Hill. “Republicans stood for the rule of law then. We should stand for the rule of law now,” it concludes.

The advertisement’s goal, according to Longwell, is to “encourage speaking up from Republicans."

[DinoTriz2]

reddit copy pasta - explain where they're stretching? seems like a reasonable conclusion to anyone with eyes, ears, and a functioning brain.

Let me guess, you got it from /r/politics?

Lol well first of all, no one is calling for Trump's and Barr's removal. So ya know, that idea is fringe.

[feniin]

Let me guess, you got it from /r/politics?

Lol well first of all, no one is calling for Trump's and Barr's removal. So ya know, that idea is fringe.

Uh, what?

Of course there's a shit ton of people calling for both. You must live in one weird, secluded echo chamber.

[DinoTriz2]

I seriously hope Democrats waste their time trying to investigate and/or impeach.

Pelosi already said she wouldn't allow impeachment.

Oh, and CNN found out embarrassingly that 0% of people in their poll felt as if the Russian investigation was the most important issue. (https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/26/cnn-poll-voters-russia/)

So please shoot yourselves in the foot again. I swear the Democrats are on the verge of lolcow status.

[DinoTriz2]

Uh, what?

Of course there's a shit ton of people calling for both. You must live in one weird, secluded echo chamber.

I haven't heard it from CNN or MSNBC.

[feniin]

Let me guess, you got it from /r/politics?

Lol well first of all, no one is calling for Trump's and Barr's removal. So ya know, that idea is fringe.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/william-barr-resign-mueller-report.html

https://theweek.com/articles/836101/president-must-impeached

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/impeach-attorney-general-william-barr.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439536-swalwell-calls-for-barr-to-resign

[feniin]

I haven't heard it from CNN or MSNBC.

You don't watch either. They won't show you that on FoxNews.

[DinoTriz2]

LOL swallwell and chait... Oh and Slate, some of the worst Anti-Trump voices in the country.

They were calling for impeachment every day before the report was released.

Anyone halfway normal?

[DinoTriz2]

You don't watch either. They won't show you that on FoxNews.

I watched both today.

None were calling for impeachment.

[DMN]

Over the weekend, Republicans for the Rule of Neocons

LOL. Moron. How's Cheney's dick taste?

[feniin]

LOL. Moron. How's Cheney's dick taste?

just copy pasta - don't let me upset you, poor little snowflake.

[Jaxon]

Over the weekend, Republicans for the Rule of Law will air an advertisement on Fox News urging GOP lawmakers to hold Trump accountable for “lying” and “obstructing justice,” like Republicans had done with former Democratic President Bill Clinton more than 20 years ago, when a GOP-led House succesfully impeached Clinton on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. Clinton was subsequently acquitted on all charges after a trial in the Senate.

“The Mueller Report revealed multiple instances of President Trump lying and obstructing justice. Twenty years ago, Republicans denounced a Democratic president for lying and obstructing justice,” the 34-second advertisement’s opening reads, before cutting to old clips of GOP lawmakers condemning Clinton on Capitol Hill. “Republicans stood for the rule of law then. We should stand for the rule of law now,” it concludes.

The advertisement’s goal, according to Longwell, is to “encourage speaking up from Republicans."
I can forgive Trump telling thousands of lies because he told the truth when it mattered: no collusion.

[feniin]

I haven't heard it from CNN or MSNBC.

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/chris-matthews-congress-should-consider-their-constitutional-duty-of-impeachment-1499259971823

[feniin]

I can forgive Trump telling thousands of lies because he told the truth when it mattered: no collusion.

:confused:even a broken clock is right twice a day - guess that's all it takes to win your loyalty?

[Jaxon]

I wonder how he managed to be right when everyone on the TV said he was wrong. I guess he's just one lucky guy.

[feniin]

John Dean, the former White House counsel for President Nixon, said Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller's report was "more damning" than the Watergate report.

“I looked on my shelf for the Senate Watergate Committee report, I looked at the Iran Contra report. I also looked at the Ken Starr report,” Dean said on CNN’s “The Lead.”

“In 400 words, this report from the special counsel is more damning than all those reports about a president, this is really a devastating report.”


The Department of Justice on Thursday released a redacted copy of Mueller's report on his investigation into possible collusion between President Trump's campaign and Russia.

The report did not uncover evidence to conclude that Trump's 2016 campaign coordinated with Russia in efforts to interfere in the presidential election.

Mueller was also unable to “conclusively determine” that no criminal conduct occurred in regard to obstruction of justice.

"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,” the report states.

While the Justice Department concluded that the evidence in the report was insufficient to establish obstruction of justice, Dean said Thursday that he thought the violation was clear.

“As far as obstruction goes, this is clear obstruction," Dean said. "The obstruction statute is an endeavor statute … if you endeavor to obstruct you’ve violated the obstruction statute.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/439622-ex-nixon-white-house-counsel-mueller-report-more-damning-than

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/NcQCQO6.png
When interviewed by investigators, Sanders said her claim was a “slip of the tongue.”

“She also recalled that her statement in a separate press interview that rank-and-file FBI agents had lost confidence in Comey was a comment she made ‘in the heat of the moment’ that was not founded on anything,” Mueller wrote.

[password]

I've read a good deal of the report.

Slam dunk on obstruction of justice.

The Russia conspiracy stuff is murkier but it's scary how he had his hand in it and it should concern every American that the presidents' best and only trait is his ability to maintain plausible deniability.

[Thorondor]

Corrupting the Youth, it is. On with the Hemlock.

[DMN]

I've read a good deal of the report.

Slam dunk on obstruction of justice.

The Russia conspiracy stuff is murkier but it's scary how he had his hand in it and it should concern every American that the presidents' best and only trait is his ability to maintain plausible deniability.

Hurr durr, durr durr? Durr durr hurr.

[DMN]

just copy pasta - don't let me upset you, poor little snowflake.

You can't upset something you can't even comprehend, copy pasta bitch.

[AenorVZ]

It would be viewed as a proportional and appropriate response to playing games; if the House isn't going to take impeachment seriously, why should the Senate? It would be a really bad move for the Democrats I hope they take you up on your suggestion.

Impeaching Clinton really worked out poorly for the Republicans ... oh wait.

[AenorVZ]

I've read a good deal of the report.

Slam dunk on obstruction of justice.

The Russia conspiracy stuff is murkier but it's scary how he had his hand in it and it should concern every American that the presidents' best and only trait is his ability to maintain plausible deniability.

[feniin]

You can't upset something you can't even comprehend, copy pasta bitch.

You sound mad.

[DMN]

Impeaching Clinton really worked out poorly for the Republicans ... oh wait.

"oh wait" what? Do you really fail this bad at the internet in 2019?

[America]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfseRtS62Ho

[DMN]

You sound mad.

Tired, as I know my tax dollars went into producing your dipshittery.

[clevergirl]

Gawd those bois are retarded lol. None of them make any sense.

At all.

But the DoJ isn't supposed to protect the president. It's supposed to execute the laws to which we duely elected them, by appointment, through the president. So, their duty is to the people.

Trump is divisive. Ya'll either get your Republican wet dreamz cum true and u are free to run internment camps in your house while u rape ur wives under Christian Sharia. Or U get a whippin backlach from guyz like that really big grey haired cottonball. (there's a lot of angry bros with cottonball hair and prison records)

I feel like MSNBC paid those ppl to get on there and sound retarded tho. DEEP STATE is tryin to protect the turd who's tryin to shit on ppl with twitter shitposts.

Here's the thing tho, ya'll are makin way more violence than Pewdiepie by protecting Trump in the establishment. Republicans need a libertarian wing that aint a buch of sticks with cuckoldry to Melania.

Cauze eventually ppl are going to get tired of the oldmangrumpyfarthateface from the fuckin base and from the Tweeterbro. Cuz it really is damaging the fuck out of our union enabling and legitimizing the weirdbros with purplegreyhairfishmouths.

Liek. I don't want ppl to switch over to the FSM party, but that is liek what is happening more and more with the popular vote and u cant cheat for ever unless u want to break the law and then have big problems with riots from proleys. Cuz u think it's all good but it's not good guyz. It is not fucking good when 24/7 it's just fuckin a giant hatefuck on little people while the establishment and corporations pilfer the fuck out of us and keep people from sellin food they made in their own homes on their sidewalks.

[clevergirl]

Dont' enable stickpolity by being angry burning sticks and trollin ppl cuz umad about TV and ur websitez. Either of u guyz. But that grey hair is gonna ignite he can't be a welder.

[clevergirl]

Robots could do better reporting than that. also. Yikes. Like I could program a thing that just grepped a bunch of links and wrote articles better than what I just saw and I fucking suck horribly badly at even writing english legibly, with like truetype font available.

That anyone ackchuuallyyy watches that shit and feeeelz something beyond "WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE GROWN MEN DOING (ALL OF THEM)" i don't know.

I didn't watch that until somebody linked it here and it made me feel really dysphoric that is what I look like when I post. Chubby with mad grey hair like I was hit by lightening for being an apex coonery performer.

That show is embarrising

also bar is allowed to be a stickbundle, it's a free cuntry, don't make a bitch rite tho. Those other guys are also retards. This whole situation is just like fucking retarded.

If u people actchually bother to kill eachother cuz of either the mueller report or billy barrz bullshit ya'll are some dumb fuckers and u playin into the hands of the people who are laughing at trump and ya'll right neow while they run away with all the fucking dope and hoes.

[clevergirl]

^manhoes2 thats a gender newteral term.

[feniin]

Tired, as I know my tax dollars went into producing your dipshittery.

Wish you weren't so mad. Maybe you should stop being such a little bitch.

[clevergirl]

U should spend ur tax dollars on hookers instead for sure

[DinoTriz2]

I read a lot of the report and there's nothing to collusion or obstruction.

Mueller agrees with me.

[DinoTriz2]

Wish you weren't so mad. Maybe you should stop being such a little bitch.

^ performative coonery

[AenorVZ]

You're about to see how the Balls Deep State operates.

[DinoTriz2]

You're about to see how the Balls Deep State operates.

You're about to be disappointed for the 5643rd time.

[AenorVZ]

^ performative coonery

I guess this explains why you love having the son of a Klansman for a president.

[maskedmelon]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-mystery-what-are-12-criminal-referrals-n996166

this is interesting. so, given that half of the known referrals are associated with improper conduct in the Obama whitehouse, what if more of the 12 are also associated with that?

[AenorVZ]

this is interesting. so, given that half of the known referrals are associated with improper conduct in the Obama whitehouse, what if more of the 12 are also associated with that?

Then more criminals are about to be in a cell wishing they had some Grecian Formula like Paul Manafort.

[Jaxon]

I guess this explains why you love having the son of a Klansman for a president.

You know even if that's true, that doesn't make Trump a klansman or a supporter of the KKK.

[DinoTriz2]

I guess this explains why you love having the son of a Klansman for a president.

I agree, whoever says 'performative coonery' certainly is a racist... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfseRtS62Ho)

You walked right into that one, you dumb bitch lol

[Jaxon]

I agree, whoever says 'performative coonery' certainly is a racist... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfseRtS62Ho)

You walked right into that one, you dumb bitch lol

Is this real life? I thought I was watching a SNL skit.

[Wonkie]

this is interesting. so, given that half of the known referrals are associated with improper conduct in the Obama whitehouse, what if more of the 12 are also associated with that?

Good troll.

[maskedmelon]

Good troll.

it's true though, 1 of 2 known referrals were for obama's attorney. how do we know this rabbit hole don't turn nasty? so far trump is squeaky clean. what if the obama-clinton machines collaborated to frame Trump? would be a funny turn of events if not deeply disturbing.

[Wonkie]

it's true though, 1 of 2 known referrals were for obama's attorney. how do we know this rabbit hole don't turn nasty? so far trump is squeaky clean. what if the obama-clinton machines collaborated to frame Trump? would be a funny turn of events if not deeply disturbing.

it is technically true, that's why it's a good troll.

[DinoTriz2]

Can't argue with facts and logic, Libturdz®

If the media says it, it's true.

https://i.imgur.com/JOoTFT1_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[feniin]

Can't argue with facts and logic, Libturdz®

If the media says it, it's true.

https://i.imgur.com/JOoTFT1_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

https://i.imgur.com/jvq0IZU.jpg

[AenorVZ]

You know even if that's true, that doesn't make Trump a klansman or a supporter of the KKK.

No but Trump made his white supremacist worldview clear with his comments about Charlottesville.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

[AenorVZ]

You're about to be disappointed for the 5643rd time.

I haven't been this disappointed since the midterms.

[Jaxon]

No but Trump made his white supremacist worldview clear with his comments about Charlottesville.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

What comments were those?

[feniin]

No but Trump made his white supremacist worldview clear with his comments about Charlottesville.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

https://i.imgur.com/qlRTQDy.jpg

[AenorVZ]

I agree, whoever says 'performative coonery' certainly is a racist... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfseRtS62Ho)

You walked right into that one, you dumb bitch lol

Walk into the hood and recite some rap lyrics that include the N word. It will never happen because you know you don't get to say certain things in the presence of certain people, much as you may love using that language in other company.

Also, you would never walk into the hood because you're a coward. You support a pathetic sniveling draft dodger president whose father had one of his tenants diagnose him with bone spurs so he could get out of serving in Vietnam. I'm a third generation U.S. Army veteran and I know how to use a gun but I've never owned one. You own guns because you're afraid. All the time.

[AenorVZ]

What comments were those?

Google is your friend fuckboy.

[Jaxon]

I didn't see him say anything supporting white supremacy, quite the contrary in fact. He condemned them.