set respawn times/locations for highly contested targets

[EQBallzz]

Why is this even a thing? On a server that is so overcrowded at the end game why make it this easy for a few people to lock down targets like minis in Hate? Set them to spawn at random times and let them spawn randomly at any of the mini spawn points so people don't just show up minutes before the spawn time and squat on the spawn location to kill them..locking out everyone else from the content...even when they are already clearing the damn zone.

Or even better just tie the spawns to random trash mobs so you have to actually clear the damn zone to get them to spawn. Killing a trash mob has some % chance to spawn a mini near where the mob died (or at the nearest mini spawn location or something). That would be closer to what was intended anyway. This whole locking down minis thing and cockblocking people from their epics then selling the MQ back to them for ludicrous sums of plat is ridiculous.

You want/need a mini you should have to clear the zone or join a raid/group that is clearing the zone. The game shouldn't cater to people who just want to MQ all items they can get their greedy mitts on.

[branamil]

That doesn't sound very classic to me

[EQBallzz]

That doesn't sound very classic to me

I knew that comment was coming. It may not be technically classic but the end result is more classic. Lots of things are different here than live in an attempt to recreate a classic experience.

[indiscriminate_hater]

filed under: not vlassic

[Maner]

Why is this even a thing? On a server that is so overcrowded at the end game why make it this easy for a few people to lock down targets like minis in Hate? Set them to spawn at random times and let them spawn randomly at any of the mini spawn points so people don't just show up minutes before the spawn time and squat on the spawn location to kill them..locking out everyone else from the content...even when they are already clearing the damn zone.

Or even better just tie the spawns to random trash mobs so you have to actually clear the damn zone to get them to spawn. Killing a trash mob has some % chance to spawn a mini near where the mob died (or at the nearest mini spawn location or something). That would be closer to what was intended anyway. This whole locking down minis thing and cockblocking people from their epics then selling the MQ back to them for ludicrous sums of plat is ridiculous.

You want/need a mini you should have to clear the zone or join a raid/group that is clearing the zone. The game shouldn't cater to people who just want to MQ all items they can get their greedy mitts on.

Or you can just do exactly the same thing they do and get the timers and log in to kill the minis. The quest item you're talking about is also extremely rare.

[Lowako]

If we're going with non classic solutions, why not a fun one? Currently. some of the hate mini's can be solo'd by a monk. Why not give them 100k+ HP, let them flurry, rampage, banish, grav flux. charm people etc. You've now eliminated the ability to solo/duo farm them for platinum, and made raiding them a lot more interesting and entertaining.

[Tetsuo]

I think it would be all kinds of funny, working on fear break in and BAM mini in your face.

However extremely erratic respawn times wouldn't be so bad imo why make people wait for less than 4 days strait on possible pops

[skarlorn]

filed under: not vlassic

Put this in the pickle jar

[Mead]

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented and nobody gives a fuck about.

[Swish]

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented

Ever been so mad you ragequit P99 for your own instanced vend-a-mob raiding?

[EQBallzz]

Or you can just do exactly the same thing they do and get the timers and log in to kill the minis. The quest item you're talking about is also extremely rare.

Except that most don't let their lives revolve around monster spawn timers in a 17 year old MMO. That's the whole point. Stop making it so easy for people who can log in at all hours of the day or night to control the spawn timers of highly contested targets.

If we're going with non classic solutions, why not a fun one? Currently. some of the hate mini's can be solo'd by a monk. Why not give them 100k+ HP, let them flurry, rampage, banish, grav flux. charm people etc. You've now eliminated the ability to solo/duo farm them for platinum, and made raiding them a lot more interesting and entertaining.

I would have no problem with that but even with that..if you have set timers you would still have people sitting on spawn points at the exact time they will spawn to control them. They need to be randomized in some way and if possible tie it to the original intent of actually raiding the zone (IMO). Any raid that is clearing the bulk of the zone should have a reasonable chance for catching some of the mini bosses like was intended.

Sweet another thread about suggestions for spawns on p99 that aren't going to get implemented and nobody gives a fuck about.

I will acknowledge that you are probably right that nothing will get implemented but I disagree that nobody gives a fuck. Also, it's not inconceivable that something could change (even if unlikely). Other things have changed here over time for better or worse.

[kotton05]

filed under: not vlassic

Theses noobs trying to stop my classic immersion xD

As it stands currently most are 16 hour Windows. 3 to 7 day spawns.

Long ago the windows used to be 96 hours.... would of loved to see your post in kunark with the extended Windows. We would get like one sev every two weeks. As it stands now is the best it's been.

[Daldaen]

Servers timeline is almost done. Once it's done throw a 2 hour respawn on everything. If you want something you should be able to get a group of pals and try for it.

[Spyder73]

People getting upset that neckbeards are f#cking up their pixel-quest is about the most classic thing I can think of.

EQ is a game of exclusion and superiority

[Spyder73]

Servers timeline is almost done. Once it's done throw a 2 hour respawn on everything. If you want something you should be able to get a group of pals and try for it.

Incorrect! If pixels were freely available to the masses P99 would die and I think the devs know this

[Phenyo]

Incorrect! If pixels were freely available to the masses P99 would die and I think the devs know this

This. The lust for pixels is what keeps the wheels turning, if you just start handing them out to any weekend warrior that logs on for 30 minutes the server would dry up faster than a woman in her 40s.

There has to be a neckbeard occupation that keeps the casual shitters in check.

[Syrie]

If/when another Blue server goes live after this one finishes the current beta/timeline, what if Blue #2 server was an instanced raid content server, and Blue #1 stays exactly as-is?
Wouldn't that essentially "fix" a lot of current issues?

[Phenyo]

If/when another Blue server goes live after this one finishes the current beta/timeline, what if Blue #2 server was an instanced raid content server, and Blue #1 stays exactly as-is?
Wouldn't that essentially "fix" a lot of current issues?

Daybreak provides many of these safe spaces

[Rang]

You just dont understand the life of a norrathian aristocrat. Growing up I attended the best private schools in freeport and spent summer at my family's winery on the shores of Lake Rathe. It was a charmed life, but I'll neer forget the day my father, the viscount of freeport, sat me down and told me our pixel wealth came at a cost. As p99 nobility, it was our sworn duty to maintain the natural order. All those carefree days playing polo on the plains of karana, or sailing our yachts in the ocean of tears, were compensation for the service we provided ensuring the pixel economy remained in balance.

As an outsider all you see is our BiS loot and rare vanity items, but you don't consider the stress and responsibility that comes with ruining the playing experience of others. Ensuring casuals are empty husks, ever striving for those pixels we dangle just beyond their grasp, isn't something we do for ourselves - we do it to protect casuals from knowing what it is like at the top. We can't all be the 1%, and it is cruel to allow a taste of the a pixel filled life you simply cannot understand. Its like when red necks win the lottery, blow all their money, and then say they wished they'd never won all that money because it ruined their lives.

So, your welcome.

git gud fte concede l2p gg

[maskedmelon]

combat non-classic adaptations with more precisely emulated classic environments: begin throttling bandwidth to 28.8k and introduce random zone and server crashes.

[trite]

If/when another Blue server goes live after this one finishes the current beta/timeline, what if Blue #2 server was an instanced raid content server, and Blue #1 stays exactly as-is?
Wouldn't that essentially "fix" a lot of current issues?

this guy doesn't get it.

[maskedmelonpai]

this guy doesn't get it.

it true

[Amyas]

That doesn't sound very classic to me

Not being able to get fear golems wasn't a thing in classic for a guild much smaller than the one I am currently in...

[Maner]

Except that most don't let their lives revolve around monster spawn timers in a 17 year old MMO. That's the whole point. Stop making it so easy for people who can log in at all hours of the day or night to control the spawn timers of highly contested targets.

Then perhaps you don't deserve to get your epic if you aren't willing to put in the time necessary to acquire the drops. There are enough people on this server that if you aren't willing to camp the tough spawns you aren't going to get them. The hate minis are on 8 hour timers, you don't have to make every spawn in order to have a basic idea of when they are due. No one is going to hold your hand and give you something just because you complained about it.

if logging in once every 8 hours for 20min to clear minis or PHs is too demanding of your schedule, then just like on live, you aren't the type of player who should expect to get your epic

[Rygar]

Servers timeline is almost done. Once it's done throw a 2 hour respawn on everything. If you want something you should be able to get a group of pals and try for it.

Come to think of it, if you were GM with this as you want to be, and NToV dragons killed in their wing, I'm curious if a single guild or even two would ever drop Vulak due to Dragon repop.

Fun to think it would require cooperation for top tier loot. Maybe same with Tunare, make growth a 2hr respawn.

I'm against it for the record, just a fun thought experiment

[EQBallzz]

Then perhaps you don't deserve to get your epic if you aren't willing to put in the time necessary to acquire the drops. There are enough people on this server that if you aren't willing to camp the tough spawns you aren't going to get them. The hate minis are on 8 hour timers, you don't have to make every spawn in order to have a basic idea of when they are due. No one is going to hold your hand and give you something just because you complained about it.

if logging in once every 8 hours for 20min to clear minis or PHs is too demanding of your schedule, then just like on live, you aren't the type of player who should expect to get your epic

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

[Maner]

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

You form a raid and clear the zone if the mob you are after is up, not on the hope that maybe they will spawn midway through your clear. Not to mention that the fact you are clearing a zone doesn't mean you should get rare spawns automatically. And yes on live people who were willing to put in more time than others got their epics while they were still relevant rather than 2 expansions later. Its called an epic for a reason, this server is already way over how many epics were ever on a live server even remotely close to era, and now you're bitching because you want more. If you already have your epic and it doesn't concern you then why are you complaining? are you upset that others are making plat and you're not? are you upset that no one wants to invite you to their farm groups? perhaps you just need to stop being a bitch, make some friends, and actually play the game

You seem to refer to everyone with more play time than you as a neckbeard. Perhaps your personal opinion does matter in the slightest as your singular experience is irrelevant.

You keep using this "clear through mobs" which just reinforces how little you actually comprehend the game. random spawns would just mean one of those people with more time than you will just check a tracker. When the mini pops they will then log in, pull it to their camp and kill it. They will do all of this while people like you don't even know that the mini spawned, or they discover it spawned and are still trying to get people together to go up and "clear the zone" while it dies. Your idea wont change anything in regards to players such as yourself getting anything.

I dont think you even tried live in era with the crap you're claiming. I know on xev there were single groups that camped shit like zlandi, PoH minis, and even doze so that they had a monopoly on it. Just because you never played in era or never dealt with it doesn't mean it didn't happen, another example of your opinion falling short of relevance.

[Maner]

I have my epic so this isn't about me. It's not even really about epics. I just assume the people farming this stuff are hunting for epic pieces they can MQ for silly amounts of plat.

Your argument is not valid because what happens here is not what happened on live. I'm not suggesting people are handed items without working for it. In classic EQ people formed raids and cleared the zone to get epic (and other) items in Hate (and other places). That's all I'm suggesting. Make changes that result in people having to do what was actually intended (clear/raid the zone) instead of allowing a few neckbeards to dominate everything by locking down the timers of the desirable mobs. What you are defending is some shitty P99 bastardization that only benefits MQ'ers and loot hoarders.

I can turn your argument around and say they should randomize timers and spawn locations and if you aren't willing to clear through the mobs to get a shot at your epic mob (or whatever) to spawn then maybe you don't deserve your epic (or whatever).

Not to mention that you have 5 toons, 0 are level 60 and you're bitching about end game content.

[EQBallzz]

Not to mention that you have 5 toons, 0 are level 60 and you're bitching about end game content.

Since when do you need 60 to do PoHate? You sure are defensive about suggestions to change the status quo..gee I wonder why? I'm sure it's not self serving or anything.

[AzzarTheGod]

cringing hard at this thread.

[Maner]

Since when do you need 60 to do PoHate? You sure are defensive about suggestions to change the status quo..gee I wonder why? I'm sure it's not self serving or anything.

I haven't been in plane of hate in probably year. You can ask meek since he was part of the group I was with. So no it isn't self serving but thanks for the uninformed assumption. It just gets old listening to people like you bitch about the same things over and over again while you do nothing to contest the spawns. No one cares that a group has timers for the minis in hate and you can't get them. You aren't even putting in an effort to get them. You just want to have everything sitting up so you can casually walk in and get it, there is a server for that kiddo, it's called phinny.

Probably help to get those hate minis if you actually had a lvl 60 rather than bitching that you are losing the race to a handful of lvl 60s...

[Pokesan]

I haven't been in plane of hate in probably year. You can ask meek since he was part of the group I was with. So no it isn't self serving but thanks for the uninformed assumption. It just gets old listening to people like you bitch about the same things over and over again while you do nothing to contest the spawns. No one cares that a group has timers for the minis in hate and you can't get them. You aren't even putting in an effort to get them. You just want to have everything sitting up so you can casually walk in and get it, there is a server for that kiddo, it's called phinny.

Probably help to get those hate minis if you actually had a lvl 60 rather than bitching that you are losing the race to a handful of lvl 60s...

would have*

[stonez138]

but...but... herp derp welfare pixels! Get better! (quit your job. don't go outside!)

[stonez138]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the people that bitch the most about welfare pixels and "loot vending machines" are the ones that usually come off sounding like the most self entitled pricks on the forums/server?

[Ravager]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the people that bitch the most about welfare pixels and "loot vending machines" are the ones that usually come off sounding like the most self entitled pricks on the forums/server?
Enjoy your free server pixels you self entitled prick.

[Mythanor]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the people that bitch the most about welfare pixels and "loot vending machines" are the ones that usually come off sounding like the most self entitled pricks on the forums/server?

[EQBallzz]

I haven't been in plane of hate in probably year. You can ask meek since he was part of the group I was with. So no it isn't self serving but thanks for the uninformed assumption. It just gets old listening to people like you bitch about the same things over and over again while you do nothing to contest the spawns. No one cares that a group has timers for the minis in hate and you can't get them. You aren't even putting in an effort to get them. You just want to have everything sitting up so you can casually walk in and get it, there is a server for that kiddo, it's called phinny.

Probably help to get those hate minis if you actually had a lvl 60 rather than bitching that you are losing the race to a handful of lvl 60s...

I never suggested that minis should just be up for people to casually walk in and get. I said it should be changed so that it's more *random* so it's not so feasible to squat on spawn points. Most other contested content has a random element to when or where it spawns (or both) so it's not so much of a stretch that minis in Hate would follow the same logic.

Raid zones were meant to be raided so why not make changes that encourage the intended behavior..not cater to a handful of greedy players who want to have easy MQ items. That's really what this is about "kiddo". It's all about greedy people MQ'ing items. It's not about making the game better or more fun or even more classic. Just pixel greed.

[LostCause]

That doesn't sound very classic to me

to be honest alot about this server isn't classic so don't think some changes would matter imo

[sezaru]

Why is this even a thing? On a server that is so overcrowded at the end game why make it this easy for a few people to lock down targets like minis in Hate? Set them to spawn at random times and let them spawn randomly at any of the mini spawn points so people don't just show up minutes before the spawn time and squat on the spawn location to kill them..locking out everyone else from the content...even when they are already clearing the damn zone.


Don't ever bother posting again.Your opinion will never, ever matter here.

Or even better just tie the spawns to random trash mobs so you have to actually clear the damn zone to get them to spawn. Killing a trash mob has some % chance to spawn a mini near where the mob died (or at the nearest mini spawn location or something). That would be closer to what was intended anyway. This whole locking down minis thing and cockblocking people from their epics then selling the MQ back to them for ludicrous sums of plat is ridiculous.

You want/need a mini you should have to clear the zone or join a raid/group that is clearing the zone. The game shouldn't cater to people who just want to MQ all items they can get their greedy mitts on.

[Mistle]

Am I the only one who has noticed that the people that bitch the most about welfare pixels and "loot vending machines" are the ones that usually come off sounding like the most self entitled pricks on the forums/server?

Gets worse when you realize Maner doesn't actually do anything to earn those pixels he is trying to hoard himself. He neither tracks nor FTEs, just answers batphones, no different than 99% of the people in the endgame. He just floats by on the backs of those who do. He's just a warm body, and proud of it, lol.

So why does he deserve pixels more than other people? God only knows... it's not a rational mind we are dealing with here.

[Lhancelot]

Gets worse when you realize Maner doesn't actually do anything to earn those pixels he is trying to hoard himself. He neither tracks nor FTEs, just answers batphones, no different than 99% of the people in the endgame. He just floats by on the backs of those who do. He's just a warm body, and proud of it, lol.

So why does he deserve pixels more than other people? God only knows... it's not a rational mind we are dealing with here.

I remember on EQ2, I was in a PVP guild. It was great. We had a really close-knit fun guild, and we really only had one guild that competed against us.

To make a long story even longer, we accrued PVP gears very fast because all we did was PVP, and we became even stronger than ever with these uber PVP gears on.

Not long after we had been dominating people hard, we were all chatting in guild chat etc., and I said something regarding skill and others in our guild, and it came off very egotistical and when I had said it, I didn't even realize it. It wasn't until the GL who was a good pal of mine said something along the lines of, "huh, now that you got all those uber gears you sure sound full of yourself."

I then took a step back, looked at how I was talking to my own guild, and realized that he was right. I was sounding like some conceited, uppity prick and prior to this point I never thought and acted like that.

This really struck me profoundly tbh. I understood then how INGAME pixellated items and notoriety really can influence and alter a gamer's perspective of not just themselves but even other people.

Ever since then, I always tried to put things in proper perspective as best as I could.

I just think guy's like Maner have lost the ability to do this, they truly have lost sight of the big picture, and even of themselves. Their brains really are floating in pixels and it has altered their perspectives and not in a good way.

[Maner]

Gets worse when you realize Maner doesn't actually do anything to earn those pixels he is trying to hoard himself. He neither tracks nor FTEs, just answers batphones, no different than 99% of the people in the endgame. He just floats by on the backs of those who do. He's just a warm body, and proud of it, lol.

So why does he deserve pixels more than other people? God only knows... it's not a rational mind we are dealing with here.

Would help if you bothered to read before posting. I never said I deserved anything over other people. I used to track when it was instant pulls, but these racing rules took the fun out of it so I just respond to batphones when I can. Perhaps the real problem is that you seem to think you deserve something for doing nothing. I am a member of AM and I have been since it was formed. The fact that you're so focused on me just proves you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who is the irrational one though? The kid who keeps posting even though he doesn't play here? Or the person who has hoarded 9 items in over 2 years? Lmfao you're a joke not to mention terrible at trolling. Spend some tome on Reddit and learn how to actually troll people.

[Maner]

I remember on EQ2, I was in a PVP guild. It was great. We had a really close-knit fun guild, and we really only had one guild that competed against us.

To make a long story even longer, we accrued PVP gears very fast because all we did was PVP, and we became even stronger than ever with these uber PVP gears on.

Not long after we had been dominating people hard, we were all chatting in guild chat etc., and I said something regarding skill and others in our guild, and it came off very egotistical and when I had said it, I didn't even realize it. It wasn't until the GL who was a good pal of mine said something along the lines of, "huh, now that you got all those uber gears you sure sound full of yourself."

I then took a step back, looked at how I was talking to my own guild, and realized that he was right. I was sounding like some conceited, uppity prick and prior to this point I never thought and acted like that.

This really struck me profoundly tbh. I understood then how INGAME pixellated items and notoriety really can influence and alter a gamer's perspective of not just themselves but even other people.

Ever since then, I always tried to put things in proper perspective as best as I could.

I just think guy's like Maner have lost the ability to do this, they truly have lost sight of the big picture, and even of themselves. Their brains really are floating in pixels and it has altered their perspectives and not in a good way.


If only you knew what you were talking about. I don't have anything close to the best gear and maybe have BIS in one slot but yes, it must be all about the pixels lol. Unlike you though, I'm not so obsessed with a emu server that ihave to stalk its forums when I don't even play there.

Mobile sucks for these forums

[Lhancelot]

If only you knew what you were talking about. I don't have anything close to the best gear and maybe have BIS in one slot but yes, it must be all about the pixels lol. Unlike you though, I'm not so obsessed with a emu server that ihave to stalk its forums when I don't even play there.

Mobile sucks for these forums

Are you mentally challenged? If so, then I apologize.

I honestly think you have some sort of learning disability you always have the same canned responses to people who are critical of what you write, "if you only knew what you were talking about."

FYI, I play on the server.

[Mead]

Voted 1 star

[Maner]

Are you mentally challenged? If so, then I apologize.

I honestly think you have some sort of learning disability you always have the same canned responses to people who are critical of what you write, "if you only knew what you were talking about."

FYI, I play on the server.

Which obviously doesn't qualify you to comment on it as you still don't know what you're talking about.

[Mistle]

Would help if you bothered to read before posting. I never said I deserved anything over other people. I used to track when it was instant pulls, but these racing rules took the fun out of it so I just respond to batphones when I can. Perhaps the real problem is that you seem to think you deserve something for doing nothing. I am a member of AM and I have been since it was formed. The fact that you're so focused on me just proves you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Who is the irrational one though? The kid who keeps posting even though he doesn't play here? Or the person who has hoarded 9 items in over 2 years? Lmfao you're a joke not to mention terrible at trolling. Spend some tome on Reddit and learn how to actually troll people.

You sound young.

And VERY rustled.

[wrighter00]

CT has been popping Monday evening through Tuesday morning with all 3 of us his golems and Draco. They die very quickly to the no lifers. The golems will then spawn again 3 days after that with a 16 hour window. Just go clear Fear and wait for them to spawn. There is nothing that pisses off the no lifers more than when you take their non tier raid mob loot fairly and legitimately.

As for hate minis, they are up every 8 hours. Any clear into Hate could yield some good results. If you run into any no lifers logging in to take the minis just push for the mob anyway. They'll prolly train you because they lack social skills and communication. After enough trains and drama PoHate will be clear for you for a couple weeks.

Such is P99. Good luck, Vita Infiniti.

[Maner]

CT has been popping Monday evening through Tuesday morning with all 3 of us his golems and Draco. They die very quickly to the no lifers. The golems will then spawn again 3 days after that with a 16 hour window. Just go clear Fear and wait for them to spawn. There is nothing that pisses off the no lifers more than when you take their non tier raid mob loot fairly and legitimately.

As for hate minis, they are up every 8 hours. Any clear into Hate could yield some good results. If you run into any no lifers logging in to take the minis just push for the mob anyway. They'll prolly train you because they lack social skills and communication. After enough trains and drama PoHate will be clear for you for a couple weeks.

Such is P99. Good luck, Vita Infiniti.

What you clearly don't understand is that you obviously don't need to sit on the golems spawns as A/A has never contested the golems when CT isn't in window.

[EQBallzz]

CT has been popping Monday evening through Tuesday morning with all 3 of us his golems and Draco. They die very quickly to the no lifers. The golems will then spawn again 3 days after that with a 16 hour window. Just go clear Fear and wait for them to spawn. There is nothing that pisses off the no lifers more than when you take their non tier raid mob loot fairly and legitimately.

As for hate minis, they are up every 8 hours. Any clear into Hate could yield some good results. If you run into any no lifers logging in to take the minis just push for the mob anyway. They'll prolly train you because they lack social skills and communication. After enough trains and drama PoHate will be clear for you for a couple weeks.

Such is P99. Good luck, Vita Infiniti.

Oh we have been. We have gotten a few over the months but not nearly as many as we should have. It's not possible to push for the mob when a group of 3-4 people literally moves to the spawn point minutes before it spawns and engages it the instant it spawns then moves to the next spawn point..over and over.

I'm not even saying people shouldn't be going for them but if the spawn points and/or times had at least *some* random element it would be more feasible to push for it and the MQ'ers might not bother with it as much if they had to actually put forth more effort to clear to them when they spawned.

I will say that they usually shout to the zone to come loot the rotting gear they can't use so that is appreciated but it still just seems greedy and wasteful IMO. A zone designed to be a raid zone should more frequently benefit those that actually raid the zone..not those that have trivialized the content with gear/levels so they can MQ the items.

[wrighter00]

What you clearly don't understand is that you obviously don't need to sit on the golems spawns as A/A has never contested the golems when CT isn't in window.

You must be in Aftermath since Awakened does sometimes. Less since other guilds have started camping them. Aftermath, however, is the root of the train reference, and also more of a presence in the Hate debacle.

[Maner]

You must be in Aftermath since Awakened does sometimes. Less since other guilds have started camping them. Aftermath, however, is the root of the train reference, and also more of a presence in the Hate debacle.

3-5 people in awakened now represent 100+ guild members? Probably shouldn't think this way considering some of the reps FoH has gotten on the server...

[Pokesan]

3-5 people in awakened now represent 100+ guild members? Probably shouldn't think this way considering some of the reps FoH has gotten on the server...

but you said A/A don't contest golems.

Im game for some tortured bullshit excuse for how it doesn't count because ~Maner logic~

[wrighter00]

I just want to note that as an officer of FoH, people sometimes randomly send me tells about something a member did. Things in some far away zone while exping or grouping or something and they expect me to do something about it claiming that it "reflects" on my guild.

TBH, a lot of the stuff that goes on with A/A members would get them kicked out of FoH.

[Sarl]

I just want to note that as an officer of FoH, people sometimes randomly send me tells about something a member did. Things in some far away zone while exping or grouping or something and they expect me to do something about it claiming that it "reflects" on my guild.

TBH, a lot of the stuff that goes on with A/A members would get them kicked out of FoH.

lmao coming from the guild that heberged Lunatic that fucking hilarious bra =)

He was even an officier right? my stomac hurt ...

[Shubah]

That doesn't sound very classic to me

Christ.... Some people.

[Maner]

I just want to note that as an officer of FoH, people sometimes randomly send me tells about something a member did. Things in some far away zone while exping or grouping or something and they expect me to do something about it claiming that it "reflects" on my guild.

TBH, a lot of the stuff that goes on with A/A members would get them kicked out of FoH.

Like what? Contesting golems with a small group of friends would get you kicked out of FoH? But you guys literally sit in fear for 16 hours waiting for them...