What Ruined P99

[Shinko]

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[indiscriminate_hater]

go delevel yourself or something

[Tasslehofp99]

Miss u pal, voted kunark cause 5+ years of it was rough

[Swish]

Seriously, no Bush Towers on another poll...amateurs.

[SantagarBrax]

there is no option "GM's" to select...invalid poll.

[Bones]

it's not just p99, every single server gets ruined by career video gamers that wear it out

[Dronuspk]

Community 100%. 99 Has one of the worst communities on the internet.

[derpcake]

Community 100%. 99 Has one of the worst communities on the internet.

Maybe if the community wasn't expected to deal with issues they don't have the means to resolve in a reasonable way it would be better?

On live solutions were implemented to prevent the kind of poopsocking / rotation / FTE-bullshit we see here.

P1999 basically hands a starving village half a chicken and is like "welp divide it up fairly guys", followed by amazement that people get their heads smashed with rocks over half a dried out leg.

[Swish]

Going to go out on a limb here and say the raid scene might have been better if certain guilds didn't abuse the Kunark rotation the way they did. Oh well though, guess we can't have nice things.

[heartbrand]

Gimmel Mem

[kotton05]

Miss u pal, voted kunark cause 5+ years of it was rough

Could label that under chardok aoe

[Spyder73]

No Bush Tower option so unable to vote =(

However these are my main problems with P99

1) Multiquesting

2) Chardok puppy mill churning out inordinate amounts of level 60 characters

3) No forced rotation for non epic weapon raid targets

4) No custom 'classic' content after 7 years of existence

[kotton05]

Can't agree with you more about chardok. I think the number of people who are 60 who don't deserve it is astronomical. While the aoe change fixed it. I doubt the damage done will ever be reversed. I do miss pulling korocust in their aoe pulls xD.

[Rygar]

Maybe if the community wasn't expected to deal with issues they don't have the means to resolve in a reasonable way it would be better?

On live solutions were implemented to prevent the kind of poopsocking / rotation / FTE-bullshit we see here.

P1999 basically hands a starving village half a chicken and is like "welp divide it up fairly guys", followed by amazement that people get their heads smashed with rocks over half a dried out leg.

Pretty funny and accurate analogy. I chose to be a vegetarian and don't participate much on the raid scene. Having a wonderful p99 experience with that!

[Retticus]

blue only? prob the major overpopulation, camp control, and terrible raid scene

[Pokesan]

blue only? prob the major overpopulation, camp control, and terrible raid scene

if we're talking red, the answer is drugs

[Retticus]

If we're talking red, it's a shitty implementation plan, lack of support staff, and corrupt GM's that have been outted and fired

[dafier]

Cocks and towers?

[Kushie]

Surprised 5 years of Kunark doesn't have more votes. Also the TMO/Foreskin/Aftermath lawyerquesting raid scene on a fleet of pp purchased toons probably contributed.

Let's blame BDA tho, its funny.

[Neetas1320]

Nothing ruined about this game once you take a step out of the circle of nerd ragers holding their arms straight out smacking the piss out of each other.

[Erati]

why wasnt buying/selling of toons a poll option ?!?!

[dafier]

Chest is selling his account?!!?!? I'll...


oh...nvm...I misread and got ahead of....nvm

[Whirled]

Nothing ruined about this game once you take a step out of the circle of nerd ragers holding their arms straight out smacking the piss out of each other.

Too many pickle fuckers ruined the raid scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw_ObCcxnVU

[Ella`Ella]

Shitty/arrogant management.

[Kushie]

BAN BAN BAN

[Legday]

Let's blame BDA tho, its funny.

Not a scientist but I'd have to guess BDA is a joke option there slugger.

[Ella`Ella]

Not a scientist but I'd have to guess BDA is a joke option there slugger.

I think BDA is a legitimate scourge to the server and a leading contributor to the fall of P99.

They are responsible for Class R and C system.
They are responsible for distrust between Class R and Class C.
They are responsible for both the inception and deterioration of rotations.

The list goes on forever.

[AzzarTheGod]

If we're talking red, it's a shitty implementation plan, lack of support staff, and corrupt GM's that have been outted and fired

[Legday]

I think BDA is a legitimate scourge to the server and a leading contributor to the fall of P99.

They are responsible for Class R and C system.
They are responsible for distrust between Class R and Class C.
They are responsible for both the inception and deterioration of rotations.

The list goes on forever.

All of those things are true, but in reality, the only thing BDA ever did was become a giant bunch of hypocrits by cursing hardcore guilds on one side, and then trying to act like the king of the casual guilds on the other side.

Whether they ever existed or not, the balance of hardcore and casual guilds trying to do the content their way was never going to make everybody happy anyways. BDA was just there to play hypocritical middle man.

[Kushie]

BDA caused double raid suspensions and ruined p99 permanently. Also chest miscarried my firstborn and murdered my midget friend named Ted. Rip Ted.

Aftermath delusions

[Detoxx]

Love this kushie fellow. Hell be 63 telling his grandkids about "that darn tmo ruined my life!"

[Kushie]

Please send more godefroi, this thread needs more retardation

[NegaStoat]

I wanted the promised custom Teams PvP server to open.
Daybreak walked over and said 'agree to our special agreement or else'.

No new custom Teams PvP. No new SERVERS of any sort for P1999.

Daybreak Studios ruined P99.

[Tiggles]

GMs stepping into the raid scene and TMO quitting. Once TMO left the power vacuum was filled with subhuman retards who promptly ruined the server.

If the staff let the raid scene self regulate the big dick superstars of TMO and IB would be fair and benevolent rulers.

Honorable mention to

A-Team getting Epics and Chardok allowing every retard to get a level 60 of every class.

[Kagey]

The GM's with their ban/suspend macro clickies ruined this server.

[Ravager]

Nothing ruined about this game once you take a step out of the circle of nerd ragers holding their arms straight out smacking the piss out of each other.

This is true. 95% of the game is fun. Stick to that until you get bored and then go find something else to do.

[Mistle]

Sirken did, for not escalating bans when they continued to happen allowing the top guilds to run wild without any fear of repercussions.

Competent leadership on this server would have forcibly disbanded both A/A months ago and banned all of their leaders. Of course it wouldn't have come to that, the tards would have stopped being assholes the minute they realized punishments escalate. But, like a bad ref, Sirken lost control of the game.

Not hard to see what happens when a ref loses control of the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydbATVriqA

[Kushie]

Competent leadership on this server would have forcibly disbanded both A/A months ago and banned all of their leaders. Of course it wouldn't have come to that, the tards would have stopped being assholes the minute they realized punishments escalate. But, like a bad ref, Sirken lost control of the game.


That's surprisingly accurate for a RnF post. Sorry Sirken

[Sadad]

The first time Transcendence and Inglourious Basterds poopsocked Naggy/Vox for 12 hours, so it's been almost 8 years

[fan D]

it's not just p99, every single server gets ruined by career video gamers that wear it out

who says its not casuals that ruin the server?

[fastboy21]

This is a surprisingly lucid thread for rants and flames...someone get in here with some cat rhomba vids and dumb this conversation up.

[Detoxx]

Sirken did, for not escalating bans when they continued to happen allowing the top guilds to run wild without any fear of repercussions.

Competent leadership on this server would have forcibly disbanded both A/A months ago and banned all of their leaders. Of course it wouldn't have come to that, the tards would have stopped being assholes the minute they realized punishments escalate. But, like a bad ref, Sirken lost control of the game.

Not hard to see what happens when a ref loses control of the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydbATVriqA

Awakened would have just got suspeneded for....160 days if bans were doubled each time. That doesnt include the 7 day suspension from rogean thanks to your rager, Fingerz.

160 days...

[Pokesan]

remove all velious raid content we don't deserve it

[Kushie]

I'm sorry you had to endure such torture from Awakened.

[Detoxx]

I'm sorry you had to endure such torture from Awakened.

Im sorry you had to endure such torture from TMO and pretty much any other guild to exist on P99 since they were all better than BDA

[fastboy21]

Im sorry you had to endure such torture from TMO and pretty much any other guild to exist on P99 since they were all better than BDA

ooooh snap...

[Bubbles]

I remember TMO as that 3rd tier guild who could only lock down Droga upon the release of Kunark.

Thats how far the server goes back... The dead and buried empire long lost was camping Droga an expansion ago.

Cheesing Chardok for 60s? I remember IB refusing to leave Sol A gnomes till they were dinging 50.

All that is just for timeline perspective. Neither guild caused the downfall of p99 at all.

The 8 years we were given to conquer 3 expansions. That is what ruined p99. The top 1% of 20 different servers stuck on one angry server to make raiding ridiculous.. That ruined p99. The toxic forum community ruined p99...

Lots of things 'ruined' what would have been utopia. As it is, it's still a fun way to spend some time.

[Swish]

Chardok AOE is what ruined the server, isolating a zone for RMTers to pay their rent with.

I'm glad the staff took measures to limit people like this from lawyerquesting the zone to themselves <3

http://i.imgur.com/vYoVP68.png

[AzzarTheGod]

^ inb4 delete screenshot too triggering

reminds me of...chardok AOE

[MerkelMacron]

How does CHardok AOE go down?

Anyone care to elaborate?

[Swish]

How does CHardok AOE go down?

Anyone care to elaborate?

In a couple of sentences.... about 10-12 people pull half the zone to the entrance, AOE stun everything continuously with 3 enchanters rotating 3 stun spells, and wizards nuke everything down. There's the XP group, who rake all the XP, but they're paying 2000pp per pull to take it.

[nilzark]

First person to find a better server wins some Rubicite Boots and a Black Lotus Magic Card.

[Swish]

Black Lotus Magic Card.

I heard people pay thousands just to touch one of those :o

[skarlorn]

where is the "Chest" option?

I swear to you BDA vent destroyed the game

[nilzark]

I heard people pay thousands just to touch one of those :o

This is true. Double in Indonesia. And how much do we pay to use this server?

[MaksimMazor]

Aw man that sweet sweet meet

-Gabo

[MaksimMazor]

Lewt* lol

[Spyder73]

I usually don't vote if there is no Bsh/Twr option but I have decided to vote BDA in spirit of Kushie finally get banned (long over due, now get Trollololol)

[katrik]

P99 would be a better place if raiding was removed period.

[Cecily]

No offense but you should attend a raid before you share an opinion on raiding.

[meadtj]

Maybe if the community wasn't expected to deal with issues they don't have the means to resolve in a reasonable way it would be better?

On live solutions were implemented to prevent the kind of poopsocking / rotation / FTE-bullshit we see here.

P1999 basically hands a starving village half a chicken and is like "welp divide it up fairly guys", followed by amazement that people get their heads smashed with rocks over half a dried out leg.

This is great...made me laugh. Oldschool raid mechanics work really well in EQ provided there are not 10 competing guilds that have been playing for 7 years with no new expansions and mob spawn rates are not adjusted to compensate. Its torture to raid on this server at all, and if you enjoy it there is probably something in you that makes you need psychiatric help. If a new server were to launch today on a classic timeline they would probably be finally done with velious patches by the time the server caught up to this one.

[Pokesan]

No offense but you should attend a raid before you share an opinion on raiding.

no gatekeeping

[Mistle]

Here's the thing. Everquest was never meant to be like this. Despite what the dipshits think, Verant/SOE *never* thought EQ was meant to be competitive. Ever. It was not designed for it, and when it ever became so, they actively tried to stop it.

That is classic. Not this shit.

When guilds started fighting over raid bosses, Sony did everything they could think of to get rid of it. They added more servers, but more people made it to end game. They released expansions to add more bosses, the players were able to kill them anyways. They stuffed the expansion full of high hp trash to delay guilds so they would be tied up for long periods of time, the players found ways around it. They keyed zones so that guilds would have time to farm up while others are still keying, those guilds cockblocked the key. They finally made an expansion that was nothing BUT bosses, and it still didn't stop guilds from being asses to each other.

So they instanced everything. Not the best solution, but it ended the problem.

These guilds don't get that. They think it's supposed to be a competition. What can you do. But the problem is Sirken and Rogean do too. There is no excuse for this. They're simply wrong and their mistake means this server will never fix its problems and never get better.

Sony would never, ever, EVER have let a server get to the disgraceful state this one is in. They made changes long before anything came even close. They FIXED things. And THAT is true classic. This is an abomination.

[Tasslehofp99]

Here's the thing. Everquest was never meant to be like this. Despite what the dipshits think, Verant/SOE *never* thought EQ was meant to be competitive. Ever. It was not designed for it, and when it ever became so, they actively tried to stop it.

That is classic. Not this shit.

When guilds started fighting over raid bosses, Sony did everything they could think of to get rid of it. They added more servers, but more people made it to end game. They released expansions to add more bosses, the players were able to kill them anyways. They stuffed the expansion full of high hp trash to delay guilds so they would be tied up for long periods of time, the players found ways around it. They keyed zones so that guilds would have time to farm up while others are still keying, those guilds cockblocked the key. They finally made an expansion that was nothing BUT bosses, and it still didn't stop guilds from being asses to each other.

So they instanced everything. Not the best solution, but it ended the problem.

These guilds don't get that. They think it's supposed to be a competition. What can you do. But the problem is Sirken and Rogean do too. There is no excuse for this. They're simply wrong and their mistake means this server will never fix its problems and never get better.

Sony would never, ever, EVER have let a server get to the disgraceful state this one is in. They made changes long before anything came even close. They FIXED things. And THAT is true classic. This is an abomination.

I mean, EQ started as by far the most unforgiving and grindy MMO games ever.

They only made instanced content because the game was getting old and they had to give newer/casual players alternatives to more competitive players.

Everything you listed as being a countermeasure to competition was just put in place to compete with the newer MMOs that came after EQ. Of course, i could also be totally wrong too.

I personally think WOW was the biggest influence on post-velious/luclin content.

[bktroost]

I did. I ruined p99. Sorry 'bout that.

[Doors]

Staff not bringing the hammer down.

[meadtj]

I mean, EQ started as by far the most unforgiving and grindy MMO games ever.

They only made instanced content because the game was getting old and they had to give newer/casual players alternatives to more competitive players.

Everything you listed as being a countermeasure to competition was just put in place to compete with the newer MMOs that came after EQ. Of course, i could also be totally wrong too.

I personally think WOW was the biggest influence on post-velious/luclin content.

problem is wow was introduced till after LoY, which is technically when instancing started.

[meadtj]

problem is wow was introduced till after LoY, which is technically when instancing started.

was = wasn't

[Aviann]

P99 is still fun. People just forgot how to play it... and it shows on the forums a lot.

[Bones]

P99 is still fun. People just forgot how to play it... and it shows on the forums a lot.

Agreed. If there's one thing that I have found out in my long tenure of playing p99, the less often you play it, the more fun it is when you log in, and more rewarding it feels.

[Aviann]

Agreed. If there's one thing that I have found out in my long tenure of playing p99, the less often you play it, the more fun it is when you log in, and more rewarding it feels.

Very much so. Just got back from a lengthy hiatus and it definitely is great to be back in Norrath. Some people need to take a break from the immersion of these forums and actually play the game.

[katrik]

No offense but you should attend a raid before you share an opinion on raiding.

I think the state of the upper level scene speaks for itself. I've been on 4-5. Something I'd like to forget. But you're correct.

[Supreme]

P1999 basically hands a starving village half a chicken and is like "welp divide it up fairly guys", followed by amazement that people get their heads smashed with rocks over half a dried out leg.

Always found it amusing how so many things change because it wasn't classic..then things are changed that wasn't classic...just because it improved gameplay.

For some reason, on a free to play server, players are continually denied the enjoyment of the legacy experience because to change it would not be classic :confused::confused:

[nilzark]

Classic

[Swish]

P99 is still fun. People just forgot how to play it... and it shows on the forums a lot.