Dawn Believers

[Novoselic]

are the biggest pieces of shit i've ever come across, don't trust any of them and stay the fuck away from them. they're all just a bunch of fat trolls jerking off in their mother's basement

[Sarl]

Yes they are ... yesterday i join a group (2 dawn shittiers in it) with my shaman full buff them, 2 min after a warrior Kelvinn(warrior level 50) join the group and ask me for full buff. i do. i get Resist slow on one mob and they kick me off the group cause i was " to low level" ...

I was so disapointed in there attitude and oh boy i let them know ...

[Porky]

I was in a group with 4 dawn believers, they decided they wanted to go to com and I asked if I could come. one of them said he would switch to his druid and port us. Allio showed up ported the 3 other dawn believers to ej and then said he accidentally forgot to invite mt othe port group and he'd come back.

well he did c ome back but then he ported me to skyfire and plugged. (tell was queued and then didn't go through)

I was level 40 and of course died instantly.
I tried sending tells to the people in group, thinking he just casted the wrong port and his game crashed, but they all ignored me for the rest of the day. had to get some help from a druid in ec to get my gear back.

[fan D]

Dawn Believers is the real deal, a great guild full of some of the nicest and most helpful players i've met in Norrath

there are no guilds i'd rather be in, i've enjoyed every minute of my time in this guild,

u hating for no reason sorry u lost

[fan D]

Yes they are ... yesterday i join a group (2 dawn shittiers in it) with my shaman full buff them, 2 min after a warrior Kelvinn(warrior level 50) join the group and ask me for full buff. i do. i get Resist slow on one mob and they kick me off the group cause i was " to low level" ...

I was so disapointed in there attitude and oh boy i let them know ...

lol so you are mad you didn' get a written, formal apology with 2 weeks notice and a full explanation + a future reference ? did you want a severence pixel package too ?

I was in a group with 4 dawn believers, they decided they wanted to go to com and I asked if I could come. one of them said he would switch to his druid and port us. Allio showed up ported the 3 other dawn believers to ej and then said he accidentally forgot to invite mt othe port group and he'd come back.

well he did c ome back but then he ported me to skyfire and plugged. (tell was queued and then didn't go through)

I was level 40 and of course died instantly.
I tried sending tells to the people in group, thinking he just casted the wrong port and his game crashed, but they all ignored me for the rest of the day. had to get some help from a druid in ec to get my gear back.

you're mad some of these players are new to the game, instead of let them be noobies you have to disparage and insult them because they haven't been playing p99 as long as you ?

I was there and this guy was talking shit to our group the whole time, he was being toxic and threatened to train our group because we didn't just give him an item that dropped, we rolled on it, to be fair. He was so mad he didn't get the item because it was an 'upgrade' and he went on and on about blocking us from raiding or joining a raiding guild when we were level 60

enjoy the corpse run, maybe next time don't be such an immature ass

[rollin5k]

Dawn Believers is the sign that p99 is coming to an end formally. Sickest bunch of idiots I've ever seen.

[teai]

Ive been trained and killed 3 times by the department of fun while leveling with no recourse.

I've been rezzed for free, buffed, and grouped with DB and its just a big guild with loose recruiting.

[Lucille]

lol

I was actually in the group (the 6th person and too low to go to com because I was 37)

dunno who you are but the group was very friendly and I can't speak for what happened after they started porting away, but no items dropped at all we were in the ce pulling mobs up from the pit.

[debuilder]

I was actually in the group (the 6th person and too low to go to com because I was 37)

dunno who you are but the group was very friendly and I can't speak for what happened after they started porting away, but no items dropped at all we were in the ce pulling mobs up from the pit.

probably another one of allio's accounts

[Sarl]

Dawn Believers is the real deal, a great guild full of some of the nicest and most helpful players i've met in Norrath

there are no guilds i'd rather be in, i've enjoyed every minute of my time in this guild,

u hating for no reason sorry u lost

it's not a great guild, we are not hating for no reasons.

I guess you have a great time in this guild making fun of random you guys are screwing up. Scumbags!

[Doctor Jeff]

it's not a great guild, we are not hating for no reasons.

I guess you have a great time in this guild making fun of random you guys are screwing up. Scumbags!

that guy doesn't even play on blue

[Sarl]

that guy doesn't even play on blue

He's still a scumbag! =)

[welly321]

I like dawn believers. I was grouping with a very friendly Shaman named Shamsade in MM. We were pulling to the pond. SK and Shaman duo was going very well. Shamsade even offered to log onto his druid, Allio, to buff me. Dawn Believers is alright in my book.

[Pokesan]

I like dawn believers. I was grouping with a very friendly Shaman named Shamsade in MM. We were pulling to the pond. SK and Shaman duo was going very well. Shamsade even offered to log onto his druid, Allio, to buff me. Dawn Believers is alright in my book.

hi dingo

[Novoselic]

Yes they are ... yesterday i join a group (2 dawn shittiers in it) with my shaman full buff them, 2 min after a warrior Kelvinn(warrior level 50) join the group and ask me for full buff. i do. i get Resist slow on one mob and they kick me off the group cause i was " to low level" ...

I was so disapointed in there attitude and oh boy i let them know ...

these assholes train me while i was afk on the ramp in OT and instead of a simple sorry they start talking shit like the internet pussies they are

[Novoselic]

Dawn Believers is the real deal, a great guild full of some of the nicest and most helpful players i've met in Norrath

there are no guilds i'd rather be in, i've enjoyed every minute of my time in this guild,

u hating for no reason sorry u lost

obviously a spy, gtfo my thread pls

[Swish]

So are we saying this guild is the new Clue?

[Novoselic]

Yes they are ... yesterday i join a group (2 dawn shittiers in it) with my shaman full buff them, 2 min after a warrior Kelvinn(warrior level 50) join the group and ask me for full buff. i do. i get Resist slow on one mob and they kick me off the group cause i was " to low level" ...

I was so disapointed in there attitude and oh boy i let them know ...

I was in a group with 4 dawn believers, they decided they wanted to go to com and I asked if I could come. one of them said he would switch to his druid and port us. Allio showed up ported the 3 other dawn believers to ej and then said he accidentally forgot to invite mt othe port group and he'd come back.

well he did c ome back but then he ported me to skyfire and plugged. (tell was queued and then didn't go through)

I was level 40 and of course died instantly.
I tried sending tells to the people in group, thinking he just casted the wrong port and his game crashed, but they all ignored me for the rest of the day. had to get some help from a druid in ec to get my gear back.

this is the kind of shit im talking about, i'm not the only one whos dealt with their bullshit. i plead with all bluebies, stay the fuck away from them. do not interact with them or socialize or even look at them, they are the cancer that is atrociously scourging our great lands

[Dronuspk]

So are we saying this guild is the new Clue?

[Draulius]

I've been in this guild since I was level 10 and they've been nothing but friendly and helpful so far. Helped gear me up either for free or with major discounts. Chat is always interesting to read as well, nothing bad in it so far. I think you're all getting the wrong impression from the Shamshade thread who in fact WASN'T Allio's alt.

[rollin5k]

Isn't the guild leader Rmt'd character who's never played EQ before?

[oracle333]

Allio here. I'll indulge in the troll fest for one time. Then if anyone makes another one of these (clearly) trolling posts I'll copy/paste what I said here into new ones...or I just won't bother =P

I stayed away from the forums for almost all of my p99 life. I was always told it was just full of blatant trolls and bored, old men. That reputation is living up to its name here.

Firstly, to the guy who said I ported people to EJ - 100% lie. I never did that. In fact I was off most of this week playing Bioshock on my ps4. I bought the 3-game bundle version, awesome game btw.

Next, to anyone who has a problem with one of our members, just do /who all Dawn and ask for an officer to help resolve the issue. It's truly that simple. From there I would just say don't judge an entire guild on the actions of a few people.

To the rumor that I'm Shamsade:

I'm not. Plain and simple.

Allio is a 56 druid. I've done countless jboot mq's. Even more seafuries. I have zero need to steal shit from people. And I'd be a truly special kind of stupid to put a toon in my guild with the name SHAMsade just to rob people.

Everything I have on p99 was earned through hours and hours of playing time. End of that story.

Any "story" you people read on these forums about me logging from Shamsade to Allio or me porting people or anything lame is 100% lies.

I go out of my way to help people. I refuse any port tip under 50p. I have one of every class, fully twinked, including a 34 TROLL shaman lol, not a Barbarian like Shamsade.

Look, we're all grown men and women here, right? We all have jobs, families, wives, kids, hobbies, etc.

Are you all so bored with life that this is your only form of entertainment? Making up stories, bashing good, innocent people, trying to defame complete strangers? What do you get out of it?

Be better than that. I'm a good person. My members are good people. Anything on these forums about us being <insert insult and/or fabrication here> is 100% false.

90% of all p99 is full of good, kind people. 9% are neutral. Only 1% are truly douche bags. That's because p99 is full of grown men and women who are mature and just want to have fun playing a game they grew up with.

So get off the forums, stop trolling, find more fulfilling ways to entertain yourselves and have fun guys, but not at other people's expense.

For the record I flat out refuse to reply to any troll comment. If you want to discuss things with me like mature adults I'm down to let people get to know me so they see I'm not an ass hat.

But again - I will not respond to a single troll comment. You can try, but it won't happen lol. By making this statement I already violated my number one rule about not feeding trolls. I won't keep breaking it <3

[oracle333]

For the record:

If anyone wants to know what the REAL Dawn Believers are go to this link:

www.about.me/dawnbelievers

It'll take you less than 3 minutes to read.

It's a short history on the real life secret society I was born into.

You can take every letter in Dawn Believer and rewrite it as "evil be warned."

This anagram is something I couldn't have made up. It is what it is. We follow a way of life that is about self-mastery and acts of kindness.

RMT, scamming people, KS'ing, or any other made up story about me or my members in-game goes against what I stand for as a whole.

Let's all get off the forums and go play EQ, ya? Have fun, be nice to people, and definitely give up the whole troll thing.

[oracle333]

Unfortunately my friend said that link won't work if you just click it.

Type it in and don't be lazy lol =P

Just type in www.about.me/dawnbelievers, you'll see it.

I hope y'all have a good day. Genuinely and without sarcasm. I wish you all the best and I really hope this thing about bashing us can finally die down.

[Sarl]

@Oracle333

You're so wrong ... you cant denied what happen and just say it's a conspiracy from forum trolls. People reporting thoses events have less than 60 forum posts.
I'll sugest you to reread the thread and ignore people with more than 300-500post if you want to dodge the Trolls.

Anyway this big piece of shit of Kelvinn left Dawn Belivers to join Paradox. Still there was 2 others Dawn Belivers that didnt rise a finger or/and helped him to get rid of me in the group.

So i ll suggest to speak with your mates and make sure that type of bullshit dont happen again and not put your head in the sand blaming the forum Trolls.

[welly321]

And I'd be a truly special kind of stupid to put a toon in my guild with the name SHAMsade just to rob people.


So you calling yourself stupid for having a toon named SHAMsade in your guild that robs people?

[nvidor]

To be fair to base a scammer off their name alone i have seen a lot more people with far worse names who i may think would scam or does. You can not judge a book by its cover or first few pages you must dig deep into the story and understand. Every single guild on this server has its dicks and trolls who will train get ports not tip tell you to fk off etc if we made a post about every single person we run into who we have bad dealings with then the forums would be over loaded. If you have a issue with someone you send a officer a tell and have it dealt with if that dont work you petition and if gm's agree with you then it is taken care of.

[Sarl]

To be fair to base a scammer off their name alone i have seen a lot more people with far worse names who i may think would scam or does. You can not judge a book by its cover or first few pages you must dig deep into the story and understand. Every single guild on this server has its dicks and trolls who will train get ports not tip tell you to fk off etc if we made a post about every single person we run into who we have bad dealings with then the forums would be over loaded. If you have a issue with someone you send a officer a tell and have it dealt with if that dont work you petition and if gm's agree with you then it is taken care of.

Yeah ... that doesnt work. I prefere the Name & Shame Tactics.

Kelvinn you're a scumbag!

[nvidor]

Hey to each their own but to be fairs its a virtual video game people should not get their feelings hurt so easily and bothered so much by a game. LoL

[Pokesan]

dingo is harassing DB via forum alts

snickasaurus was right

[nvidor]

I just smoke a bowl and read the drama its fun and entertaining. haha

[Novoselic]

Hey to each their own but to be fairs its a virtual video game people should not get their feelings hurt so easily and bothered so much by a game. LoL

the pixels are virtual, but the people are real. we the people must band together to combat the atrocity known as the DBs

[spanky_kc]

Damn, I just gave one of these guys a free item from Mistmoore! O NO!

[oracle333]

dingo is harassing DB via forum alts

snickasaurus was right

Makes all the sense in the world.

[oracle333]

@Oracle333

You're so wrong ... you cant denied what happen and just say it's a conspiracy from forum trolls. People reporting thoses events have less than 60 forum posts.
I'll sugest you to reread the thread and ignore people with more than 300-500post if you want to dodge the Trolls.

Anyway this big piece of shit of Kelvinn left Dawn Belivers to join Paradox. Still there was 2 others Dawn Belivers that didnt rise a finger or/and helped him to get rid of me in the group.

So i ll suggest to speak with your mates and make sure that type of bullshit dont happen again and not put your head in the sand blaming the forum Trolls.

Kelvinn isn't even with us anymore so that solves one issue, doesn't it?

Secondly, it's your word versus theirs my dude. You could be a forum troll, and anyone with 300 forum posts obviously hangs out in here a LOT - which could also be grounds for being a troll.

The point here is it's "he said" "she said" and without screenshots you can't go on one sided stories. I'm not saying you're wrong or you're lying - I'm saying I don't know if you're wrong, lying, right or truthful. Only screenshots would sway me.

If anyone has any problem with a DB member you just /who all Dawn and ask for an officer or ME, Allio. I'm usually on in some form (as I said, I have one of every class).

So really it comes down to being a mature adult, handling the situation with an officer, AND being smart enough not to judge an entire guild of 60+ people because of one or two mishaps that aren't verified or backed up with evidence (screenshots, logs, etc.).

[Porky]

When 15+ people are saying something and your only defense is, "they're all trolls," you start to lose credibility

[Sarl]

Kelvinn isn't even with us anymore so that solves one issue, doesn't it?

Secondly, it's your word versus theirs my dude. You could be a forum troll, and anyone with 300 forum posts obviously hangs out in here a LOT - which could also be grounds for being a troll.

The point here is it's "he said" "she said" and without screenshots you can't go on one sided stories. I'm not saying you're wrong or you're lying - I'm saying I don't know if you're wrong, lying, right or truthful. Only screenshots would sway me.

If anyone has any problem with a DB member you just /who all Dawn and ask for an officer or ME, Allio. I'm usually on in some form (as I said, I have one of every class).

So really it comes down to being a mature adult, handling the situation with an officer, AND being smart enough not to judge an entire guild of 60+ people because of one or two mishaps that aren't verified or backed up with evidence (screenshots, logs, etc.).

You make some good points. If anything happen in the future i ll make sure to take ss & logs.
Have a good day.

Dont forget guys Kelvinn is a scumbags & if you follow what a scumbag tell you to do (just to have some xp) you're a scumbag too! dont be a Sheep!

[Swish]

Clue has survived worse forum bashing. How is this best achieved? Don't fan the flames in RNF.

[oracle333]

When 15+ people are saying something and your only defense is, "they're all trolls," you start to lose credibility

Nah

15+ people may be saying "something" but that doesn't mean it has substance.

You've got poorly written stories with zero evidence, zero proof, zero logs, zero screenshots.

You've got a really dumb and ultimately baseless accusation that I'm Shamsade, which is ridiculous for all kinds of reasons (go back and read what I said if you forgot).

So nah, my dude. This is what it is: trolls, with one or two people who may have had some run-ins with someone who booted them from a group or something. But as the guy realized - every story has two sides so without screenshots and logs it's useless to talk about.

This'll be my last reply lol. The entire thing is absurd from top to bottom.

A guild with 60-100 people isn't 100% going out there with the intention of messing with the p99 community lol. Y'all relax with that stuff. Shamsade is gone. The group we have now is full of good people.

And as I said and will say for a final time: if anyone has any issue with one of my members just find me or an officer with a /who all dawn. That's it.

Other than that have a good one guys.


....last, last thing:

Please don't come back here in a week or two with some contrived, manipulated set up where one of you jokers tries to goad one of my members into a situation then presents one-sided screenshots as "proof"

It'll be too fishy and foul to be believable.

But if something DOES go down, and it's genuine and legit, not a problem - that member will be booted asap. I'm building something special with this guild and I flat out won't tolerate immaturity or shenanigans lol

Again - have a good one. All the best to y'all

[oracle333]

Clue has survived worse forum bashing. How is this best achieved? Don't fan the flames in RNF.

True. And that's why I'm done here lol. Anything I add from this point forward is just gonna become circular. I said what I needed to say. The rest is up to people themselves to be intelligent to realize this legitimately is a troll job.

[Doctor Jeff]

Nah

Please don't come back here in a week or two with screenshots

wow

[fan D]

that guy doesn't even play on blue

http://i.imgur.com/uVwv9Mm.png

http://i.imgur.com/5S2XdIx.png

he he thanks for speaking for me random nobody ;-)

[oracle333]

wow

I'm a massive NBA fan. I know how sports reporters can take an out of context quote by a player to make a headline. And my guy, that's what you did here =)

If someone posts LEGITIMATE screenshots - by all means. I don't want dbags in my guild.

What I won't have is some troll turd deciding he wants to bait one of my members into some one-sided situation lol. It would be a waste of everybody's time.

Hope that clears things up! Be great Dr. Jeff <3

I know I keep saying this, but I truly am done. The problem with these kinds of forums is you keep getting sucked back into the underworld to deal with every misquoted comment and next thing you know you're down here forever =P

So I'm out. All the best to you guys. Don't bother replying - I won't be back. You can reach me in-game on:

Allio, Godlife, Vinico, Kiffin or Royle.

As I've said before I have one of every class so it's hard to play them all. Those are the main ones currently.

[Pokesan]

write a petition on fandango and it'll stop

[Skinned]

Been seeing these dudes grouping in every low dungeon I visit lately. Nice seeing people in the old world dungeons.

[branamil]

only Dawn Believers encounters I had were nice, average ppl. One ported me for free for a tricky Corpse Retrieval.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

http://i.imgur.com/uVwv9Mm.png

http://i.imgur.com/5S2XdIx.png

he he thanks for speaking for me random nobody ;-)

This guy has a tiny wiener and uses it to jerk off to hentai.

[Swish]

Fandango is good people

[LostCause]

these assholes train me while i was afk on the ramp in OT and instead of a simple sorry they start talking shit like the internet pussies they are

you afk at a zone in and expect to live?

SHITS CLASSIC

[jakerees]

Confirmed Allio is in an evil cult RL and brings that shit in game (scamming people on Shamshade and porting lowbies to high end zones to get them killed)

[Red_Psyphon]

Good to see the mentally stable from red spilling over to blue now that their crap server is officially dead.

[Swish]

Good to see the mentally stable from red spilling over to blue now that their crap server is officially dead.

Stable as in enjoying start lines for raids and trying to get other guilds raid banned?

pvp is a better solution, turn it on in blue server's raid zones.