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[Mead]

Pretty sure you misread that horribly. He was explaining that people in every single MMORPG try to gain advantage over each other and that people did so inside P99 and P99 was fine. He very plainly didn't state that P99 somehow, with ~1200 people, was trying to "get a leg up on other mmorpg's in the market", that obviously would make no sense.

Thank you.

[Squabbles123]

Sounds like you have an excuse for everything to back your argument. The facts still remain regardless of whether you care or not.

Sounds like you can't take the fact your paying for a broken product....

Its incredibly likely that whatever issue on p99 you're talking about, those involved aren't even here playing anymore, its been YEARS after all, so its very much possible.

Also, I actually have more faith in the devs for p99 than I do for Daybreaks.

[Maner]

Pretty sure you misread that horribly. He was explaining that people in every single MMORPG try to gain advantage over each other and that people did so inside P99 and P99 was fine. He very plainly didn't state that P99 somehow, with ~1200 people, was trying to "get a leg up on other mmorpg's in the market", that obviously would make no sense.

Which is also irrelevant in regards to daybreak releasing a buggy as hell server that people actually pay to play on... the ease at which people were able to dupe items was utterly ridiculous.

[Beastagoog]

Oh wow.

Some people dupped some 40 slot bags and got some extra xp pots.

Meanwhile the 99.7% of the other pop are obliviously enjoying their time because they don't care and arent stupid enough to spend 30usd on a 40 slot bag in the first place.

[nhdjoseywales]

The only fact that matters is you pay to play on Agnarr so why should you have to deal with any bugs at all?

Why do products have recalls, why does software need patches? Don't act stupid.

[BallzDeep]

It isn't the 40 slot bags or the exp pots from the $30 bundle. It's basically anything in the cash shop, you can dupe. Not from the stupid sit at the zoneline with an item in your cursor bug but one where I can literally put in an order for 30 EXP pots (given I have the station cash) and do something so it puts the 30 pots in my inventory and does not charge me the DBC. Essentially as many group EXP pots as I want without paying a dime. Those sell for platinum and in effect, gives a major advantage by this weekend.

[BallzDeep]

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Sorry. I should have seen that.

You realize I've been on this server for like 5 years and one of the original players here. My original form account got banned when I posted a picture of me at the shooting range for some ungodly reason. Sorry you only see black and white.

[BallzDeep]

And you obviously probably never played on Fippy.... Lol. I was in Citizen from the start, I was there for all the harm touch wars that plagued the server. TLP's are fun but always full of issues and problems. I was just hoping for a balanced release this time since this is like the 8th? TLP that's been released under the Everquest franchise.

[Maner]

Why do products have recalls, why does software need patches? Don't act stupid.

Maybe for a product being released for the first time, not on the 4th release of the same product... people can't even admit daybreak fucked up since they already gave them their money...

[Squabbles123]

Why do products have recalls, why does software need patches? Don't act stupid.

So its totally normal for a 18 year old game, launching a new server, for the 4th time or something...to STILL be totally broken?

No, thats just total incompetence. Thats Trump level incompetence.

[Kich867]

Which is also irrelevant in regards to daybreak releasing a buggy as hell server that people actually pay to play on... the ease at which people were able to dupe items was utterly ridiculous.

I'm not defending them for the bug, it's a deplorable bug that seems pretty god damn excessive, but the fact you pay to play on it is entirely meaningless.

Literally all MMO's, every game, every server, everything, has always had bugs, always will have bugs, will never cease having bugs, they will never go away because it's genuinely impossible to stop it from happening.

So the bug aside, right, the wait times / lag, this is all expected and we can't really complain about that. I mean you can, that's up to you, but it's like complaining that rush-hour traffic exists and aren't able to understand why everyone is on the road around ~5pm when everyone gets off of work, you know? Could the state resolve rush-hour traffic by making highways 30 lanes wide? Maybe, but wtf do you do after that? You could remove all the lanes, but that can be expensive as well. In the same vein, designing a server architecture / application to handle your day 1 population boom at all times is much more costly when you know, in reality, you'll only experience that load for 24-48 hours.

EverQuest, World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy MMOs, Ragnarok Online, every big MMO ever has always had a shitshow of an opening day and you should always expect it to unfortunately.

The reality is that these populations on the server won't ever occur again. In any online game's release, I'd advise not bothering to do anything the first day, it's inevitably going to be the worst day. I agree that blows. In the future, maybe, we'll see this sort of thing be resolved when turning up and down your server's beefiness is just a simple dial that you can do for a day, bite the cost of a smooth day 1 (astronomically more expensive) then turn it down as avg pop declines, but unlikely for now.

Services like Amazon Web Services (AWS) are going to be pretty key to that, I'm familiar with a lot of the options, but honestly I don't know how easy it is on AWS to turn up / down your server specs on the fly...it can always spin up additional servers on the fly, that's not a problem, but you'll always have some kind of bottleneck (most likely) on your database and the speed at which it can handle the incoming requests (which, if Daybreak was actually throttling the speed at which people can create characters, this may be a real concern).

Just my 2c.

[Squabbles123]

EverQuest, World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy MMOs, Ragnarok Online, every big MMO ever has always had a shitshow of an opening day and you should always expect it to unfortunately.


That excuse simply does not apply to a game that has been running for 18 years.

If this was March 16th 1999, you'd be 100% correct. But its May 25th 2017.

"Opening Day" is when the game launches, not when a new server pops up.

[Izmael]

I have no idea how they manage to suck as much as they do when it comes to absorbing traffic / load spikes.

Creating an everquest character isn't exactly a complex task in terms of computing power. It is actually a very trivial task if your database is designed and maintained by even a mediocre database administrator.

Given the today's processing power of computers, speed of storage and low memory cost, they should be able to absorb spikes of thousands of characters created every second without blinking an eye, on a single entry-level $400 computer.

[Nirgon]

lemme get a bag of them duped group xp pots bruh

[AzzarTheGod]

lmao let me get a group full of them leet hacker boyz

[Maner]

I'm pretty sure we all know they fucked up. No need to admit anything when facts are showing Whats what.

I think you are confusing people not caring about a few neckbeards being able to neckbeard faster, with defending daybreak.

And it's not like these guys making early plat selling group exp pots is gonna break the economy to the extent that 5 years of the same expansion has done on p99. So it's still nice not caring about this silly shit and just enjoying EQ on a fresh server.

If you dont think people being able to dupe 9999 krono in the first 2 hours the server was up will ruin the servers economy forever, unless they roll back, then you're nuts.

[nhdjoseywales]

So its totally normal for a 18 year old game, launching a new server, for the 4th time or something...to STILL be totally broken?

No, thats just total incompetence. Thats Trump level incompetence.

Ford has built cars for a hundred years. Still have recalls.

Windows, Mac, and some flavors of Linux are ten versions deep. Still have bugs. Shits hard, get the fuck over it

[BallzDeep]

Games also fail because of bad bugs - See WoW emu servers, Vanguard, lots of other games. The initial hype is what makes these games most profitable and a smooth launch ensures players will stay. I'm not saying bugs don't happen but the amount of bugs, the problems with the queue, and all the other shit made the experience kinda shitty the first day. Most companies stress test the system first and over-estimate the amount of traffic they will be getting. I don't think they even attempted this one time.

[BallzDeep]

Lol TBH I have 23 25% Exp pots, 4 Group pots and 6 14 slot bags that are in my inventory for free. My friend and I actually benefitted from the bugs and I still think the launch was shitty.

[Squabbles123]

Ford has built cars for a hundred years. Still have recalls.

Windows, Mac, and some flavors of Linux are ten versions deep. Still have bugs. Shits hard, get the fuck over it

New cars.

New versions of OS'es with NEW CODE.

Daybreak are fucking incompetent morons, get over it.

[Mead]

You realize I've been on this server for like 5 years and one of the original players here. My original form account got banned when I posted a picture of me at the shooting range for some ungodly reason. Sorry you only see black and white.

Lol TBH I have 23 25% Exp pots, 4 Group pots and 6 14 slot bags that are in my inventory for free. My friend and I actually benefitted from the bugs and I still think the launch was shitty.

Your original account got banned for some ungodly reason? I can't with this guy. You probably don't see anything wrong with the past and present choices you continue to make. You and your buddy are the trash that ruin games.

[Phenyo]

Lol TBH I have 23 25% Exp pots, 4 Group pots and 6 14 slot bags that are in my inventory for free. My friend and I actually benefitted from the bugs and I still think the launch was shitty.

how

[AzzarTheGod]

Games also fail because of bad bugs - See WoW emu servers, Vanguard, lots of other games. The initial hype is what makes these games most profitable and a smooth launch ensures players will stay. I'm not saying bugs don't happen but the amount of bugs, the problems with the queue, and all the other shit made the experience kinda shitty the first day. Most companies stress test the system first and over-estimate the amount of traffic they will be getting. I don't think they even attempted this one time.

This is true. Vanguard had a mail dupe that involved the trade window. Same dupe that EQ had in 1999. very shoddy permission code.

Made a decent 10k or so in rl bucks selling to a china distro. GMs deleted our mailbox and didnt bother to ban any of our accounts lmao I guess they took the blame for being such shit ass coders (we were like wtf this game is dead go away fucker)

Then the game died and I was sad.

[AzzarTheGod]

ill be duping in pantheon with the Quaalude coders they hired

cant w8 to make a nice 5 figure check again

[BallzDeep]

Your original account got banned for some ungodly reason? I can't with this guy. You probably don't see anything wrong with the past and present choices you continue to make. You and your buddy are the trash that ruin games.


My original forum account got banned has something to do with my in-game account? Stop trying to defend yourself for being stupid. Accounts are banned for saying homophobic slurs but under your logic, that person also ruined a game.

I'm actually the one who figured out about the dupe and was standoffish about releasing the information since I don't know what the outcome might be. There is no friend. I'm also the one releasing the information and telling people it's not a good thing. Of course, when I place an order for an item in game via the DB store and it comes in and didn't charge me, I'm going to investigate and keep trying it to see what the hell was going on. I reported the bug but still have all the items and nothings been done.

I'll oblige for how the dupe worked - On the server release everything was extremely laggy. Zone denials were common and group invites took forever. Store purchases were doing the same thing. If you had the DBC, selected the items you wanted and cancelled out while it was still in the processing effect, it would give you the items and not charge you DBC. You had to be in an extremely populated zone such as Nek. Something would happen with the communication between the store and charging you for the transaction. The items would pop up in your inventory but you weren't charged. This would only happen if you cancelled out of the DB store mid transaction. I did it a few times and haven't tried it since. I don't know how many people figured it out but all in all it worked for 6 bags, 25 EXP pots, 4 Group ones.

Not my fault you're too dense to see that they want to sweep these issues under the rug to avoid a rollback.

[Mead]

My original forum account got banned has something to do with my in-game account? Stop trying to defend yourself for being stupid. Accounts are banned for saying homophobic slurs but under your logic, that person also ruined a game.

I'm actually the one who figured out about the dupe and was standoffish about releasing the information since I don't know what the outcome might be. There is no friend. I'm also the one releasing the information and telling people it's not a good thing. Of course, when I place an order for an item in game via the DB store and it comes in and didn't charge me, I'm going to investigate and keep trying it to see what the hell was going on. I reported the bug but still have all the items and nothings been done.

I'll oblige for how the dupe worked - On the server release everything was extremely laggy. Zone denials were common and group invites took forever. Store purchases were doing the same thing. If you had the DBC, selected the items you wanted and cancelled out while it was still in the processing effect, it would give you the items and not charge you DBC. You had to be in an extremely populated zone such as Nek. Something would happen with the communication between the store and charging you for the transaction. The items would pop up in your inventory but you weren't charged. This would only happen if you cancelled out of the DB store mid transaction. I did it a few times and haven't tried it since. I don't know how many people figured it out but all in all it worked for 6 bags, 25 EXP pots, 4 Group ones.

Not my fault you're too dense to see that they want to sweep these issues under the rug to avoid a rollback.

You openly admit finding a bug, continue to exploit it, and I'm the dense one? What realm of crazy have I warped into? Just stop while you aren't ahead. You're using Caiu logic here. We all know how that turned out. If you missed it you can go back and read the posts in that thread.

[Maner]

Right. So now it's krono duping by the tens of thousands.

Hyperbole at it's finest.

All it took was having it on your courser and having another person log in next to you to dupe an item. You really think its those elite hackers or just a couple people doing it? There were multiple posts from people who were at the bank and had an item duped on accident asking not to get banned. Those posts were being deleted by Daybreak almost as soon as they came up in order to keep the appearance that it wasn't happening as much as it was.

Unless they actively go through and ban not only the people who duped but everyone who has one of the duped items, the economy will never recover.

[Lune]

lvl 5 ranger now running from gfay to qeynos

[BallzDeep]

You openly admit finding a bug, continue to exploit it, and I'm the dense one? What realm of crazy have I warped into? Just stop while you aren't ahead. You're using Caiu logic here. We all know how that turned out. If you missed it you can go back and read the posts in that thread.

Are you seriously that dumb and have that bad of reading comprehension? Or are you just so driven to prove your point you ignore facts all together?

If you didn't read, I reported the bug. Nothing was done. I also only have 4 group pots, don't you think I would exploit that to the point of 100 if I was going to continue exploiting? No one can even comprehend your logic because there isn't anything out there that stupid yet. You've reached a new level. I was purchasing the pots in bulk 7 per time so after 4 times of me being like WTF is it not charging me? I ended up with 25(a few I had previously)

[Beastagoog]

Lol lotta nerds upset they ruined their own experience by using a dupe bug. Now crying they hate it and bored and it sucks.

Similar people play games like GTA with god mode on then cry its boring.

(Almost level 8 now and besides the initial rocky launch none of the said things have affected me nor the people I am playing with)

[AzzarTheGod]

Lol lotta nerds upset they ruined their own experience by using a dupe bug. Now crying they hate it and bored and it sucks.

Similar people play games like GTA with god mode on then cry its boring.

(Almost level 8 now and besides the initial rocky launch none of the said things have affected me nor the people I am playing with)

Well said.

You make your own game experience. This isn't WoW or Vanguard where the auction house dictates the quality of your experience.

This is about your own world adventure with a fully populated server jam packed like its 2000 again.

Breathe and enjoy poindexters.

[BallzDeep]

Lol lotta nerds upset they ruined their own experience by using a dupe bug. Now crying they hate it and bored and it sucks.

Similar people play games like GTA with god mode on then cry its boring.

(Almost level 8 now and besides the initial rocky launch none of the said things have affected me nor the people I am playing with)

Spoken like a true Australian. Don't you think if people were upset they ruined their own experience they could........ like.......just not use them?

None of the things really affect anyone on the surface directly unless you are abusing it but it does change the economy(for better or for worse?) based on a big influx of krono/exp pots and krono being the main source of payment in today's Everquest. You won't see it right away anyways, the economy hasn't been formed yet.

I'm still playing the server but I've played on every TLP on launch day and this was definitely one of the worst. Sleeper and Fippy launch were even smoother.

[Beastagoog]

You're over complicating matters.
Maybe you should consider why you're even playing the server.

Y'know chewing broken glass isn't fun.

Besides I see alot of people enjoying themselves and a few people crying in the corner, guess which one you are.

[BallzDeep]

You're over complicating matters.
Maybe you should consider why you're even playing the server.

Y'know chewing broken glass isn't fun.

Besides I see alot of people enjoying themselves and a few people crying in the corner, guess which one you are.

I guess the real question is then, why do you continue to post in red when everyone universally hates your posting? And it's not just a few people, its everyone.

I guess you're the type of Australian that says if its broke, don't fix it. I'm playing the game because I enjoy it, but I'm also going to point out bugs and things that need to be fixed because I enjoy it. Maybe you should question why you're playing the game?

[Beastagoog]

P.s I have 0 xp pots and 3x 8 slot bags, 2 of which you start with.

Just because some no-lifer has 6x 40 slot bags and 100x 25% xp pots doesnt mean jack 2 me nor 99.7% of the server either.
Hope they get to 50 within 3 days get bored then quit and write 10 page novels about Agnarr on eliteeq.org.

You should try find some pals 2 play eq with and grind it while joking about instead of finding some bug and crying from one side of the world wide web to the otherside about it.

[BallzDeep]

Oh so let me guess, you'd only care if something directly affected you right?

[BallzDeep]

That's how good games are made btw.

[Maner]

The only posts I saw mentioned the bags and exp pots. Not krono. The only mention of it in game was bags and exp pot duping, Not krono.

Even if it is true, 10k krono is still hyperbole.

On a side note, I just purchased a 40 slot bag because I felt like enjoying a lazy form of EQ this time around using an enchanter. Will this make you mad while I have fun? Judging by this thread, yes.

You think daybreak wants to advertise losing over $190,000 in potential income from each case of krono duping? because of a glitch they failed to find with their new server. there was a streamer duping on stream even for like 5min before he was banned from both twitch and EQ. It was exponential, you dupe one it becomes 2 dupe 2 it becomes 4 and the max stack of krono is 9999.

They were playing cover up all day yesterday AND today, deleting threads 30seconds after they were posted, using scripts looking for and flagging threads with dupe and krono in the the title or the content.

Keep denying it happened i guess if it makes you feel better. Bragging that you threw your money back at them after the bullshit they tried to push off as a release just proves you cant be honest with us or yourself.

[Beastagoog]

I guess the real question is then, why do you continue to post in red when everyone universally hates your posting? And it's not just a few people, its everyone.

I guess you're the type of Australian that says if its broke, don't fix it. I'm playing the game because I enjoy it, but I'm also going to point out bugs and things that need to be fixed because I enjoy it. Maybe you should question why you're playing the game?

Because red99 is a joke and the people there trying donating 50 hrs a week of their lives on a 100 pop box have a sickness beyond help. I enjoy posting for the 10-20 mins a day I do.

Sorry you're not happy with your life, dont take it out on me tho.

[BallzDeep]

Posts on board where you are universally hated, still decides to post 10-20 minutes a day EVERY day, says I'm unhappy with my life. Good one.

[Beastagoog]

Posts on board where you are universally hated, still decides to post 10-20 minutes a day EVERY day, says I'm unhappy with my life. Good one.

Jeez dude.
You're triggered hard.

I am sorry someone somewhere in the world duped a 40x digital bag on a new server.

It's obviously making you miserable.

Seek help.

[Pokesan]

imagine getting trolled by farzo

that's dark

[BallzDeep]

I don't think its possible. He's from Australia.

[Lune]

What the fuck have they done with highpass

those fuckers

[AzzarTheGod]

What the fuck have they done with highpass

those fuckers

lmao dat revamp highpass

so many people getting shellshocked

[Maner]

I would imagine they wouldn't like that and censor it. The only flaw in your assumption was that I wasnt on the forums since launch, since my attempts to log in failed and I wanted answers. I saw multiple threads about duping the bags and pots. Not a single one about krono. That's all I'm saying. You may have been there, I don't know. But I was and I didn't see what you are claiming.

Not denying it happened. I'm just skeptical about some random person who clearly dislikes DBG making a claim on a different forum that's contrary to what I've seen myself. Word of mouth is meaningless when it comes from someone who is biased towards a subject.

If that much krono got injected into the game, I guarantee they would have rolled back the servers, and they didnt. Which leads me to believe this "krono duping" either didn't happen, or it happened on a small enough scale for them not to feel it made a difference.

I say guarantee, because when Phinny opened new expansion that provided the tutorial, with defiant gear included, they rolled back the server like 3 times to fix the issue of people selling them. That was not a hyperbolic 190k worth of money, yet they rolled it back. Multiple times. You think they wouldn't roll back the server to save 190k of hyperbolic profit

And I was bragging about the bag. Just thought it would be numerous to let you know that your bullshit doesn't stop anyone from spending money to have fun. Keep up your illogical, semi ignorant rants though. It's also quite fun.

I don't dislike DB, i just dislike them expecting people to pay for something that clearly wasn't ready to be released or launched yet. I personally know people with 30+ personal and group EXP pots due to the shoddy testing from DB. The duping is actually still happening and it wasn't just the courser issue. People were and are able to get items from the DB store without ever paying for them.

[Lune]

http://i.imgur.com/bAGP401.jpg

Fifield you boxing little bitch, why didn't you give me a sow

[Beastagoog]

What the fuck have they done with highpass

those fuckers

Yah revamped zones suck donkeys dicks

[Lhancelot]

When you ask people why they're doing the TLP thing...

http://i.imgur.com/abHIbYg.png


Okay then :rolleyes:

Why do you care so much what others enjoy or dislike? Not everyone plays EQ for nostalgic reasons as you clearly do.

This is like some sort of never-ending rumination of a severely warped mind, you just can't seem to let it go.

It's like BDA finally escaped your brain after years of mental torture, and now Agnarr has taken it's place.

[Sadiki]

Swish is the only person that says it. It's like he wants to troll people, they don't bite, so he trolls back and forth with himself in the corner.

[Mead]

Why do you care so much what others enjoy or dislike? Not everyone plays EQ for nostalgic reasons as you clearly do.

This is like some sort of never-ending rumination of a severely warped mind, you just can't seem to let it go.

It's like BDA finally escaped your brain after years of mental torture, and now Agnarr has taken it's place.

I honestly feel bad for Swish sometimes, but then he posts again.

[Gimp]

Level 5 full cloth beast enchanter checking in.

Don't give two fucks if other people have bags or pots that I don't, having a blast on Agnarr. Wish I wasn't going out of town this weekend and could play, but 'tis the casual life for me.

[nicemace]

just waiting for the initial frenzy to die down before i log my 12 mages in.

[Lhancelot]

Nice parroting of other generic RNF replies, people love to run with the "why do you care?" thing. I did say earlier in the thread it's okay to give it a try, why not? You must have missed that and got mad at the picture.

I just think people on the nostalgia train will have been shocked already by all the "updated" (downgraded) zones they put in over the years...hopefully we'll see some TLP refugees here who want a more classic 1999 experience.

Add in the item duping or whatever happened combined with an awful launch which saw many unable to login straightaway.... how's that fresh server going for you? lol

I find the picture humorous actually, but the joke is based on a false premise that every person playing on a TLP server is doing so for nostalgic reasons.

If you spend 1 second on one of these servers you realize immediately it's a whole different game altogether if you compare it to true "classic" Everquest in 1999 or even the early 2000s.

As for an awful launch, it struggled for 3-4 hours. Anyone that is honestly angry or surprised by this either is unfamiliar with MMOs and the initial launch or lack the maturity and patience of a sensible adult.

I grouped with a guy who by chance I was familiar with on Sullon Zek, and I met a guy in that same group who is married who plays on p99 even now with his wife.

Fact of the matter is you have an unnatural obsession with Agnarr now, and can't grasp the concept that just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad. It's just bad for you.

As for how it's going for me, it's a nice change of pace. I find it fun being untwinked, grouping and killing stuff with rusty weapons and patchwork armors, and meeting new people.

None of the things you cry about being on Agnarr have not had any negative effects on me.

[originalman]

I find the picture humorous actually, but the joke is based on a false premise that every person playing on a TLP server is doing so for nostalgic reasons.

If you spend 1 second on one of these servers you realize immediately it's a whole different game altogether if you compare it to true "classic" Everquest in 1999 or even the early 2000s.

As for an awful launch, it struggled for 3-4 hours. Anyone that is honestly angry or surprised by this either is unfamiliar with MMOs and the initial launch or lack the maturity and patience of a sensible adult.

I grouped with a guy who by chance I was familiar with on Sullon Zek, and I met a guy in that same group who is married who plays on p99 even now with his wife.

Fact of the matter is you have an unnatural obsession with Agnarr now, and can't grasp the concept that just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad. It's just bad for you.

As for how it's going for me, it's a nice change of pace. I find it fun being untwinked, grouping and killing stuff with rusty weapons and patchwork armors, and meeting new people.

None of the things you cry about being on Agnarr have not had any negative effects on me.

imagine reading something like this. spooky right?

now imagine writing it.

[Mockba1980]

I tested Agnarr during couple hours and my feedback is simple :

http://i.imgur.com/b0HKkTT.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

I find the picture humorous actually, but the joke is based on a false premise that every person playing on a TLP server is doing so for nostalgic reasons.

If you spend 1 second on one of these servers you realize immediately it's a whole different game altogether if you compare it to true "classic" Everquest in 1999 or even the early 2000s.

As for an awful launch, it struggled for 3-4 hours. Anyone that is honestly angry or surprised by this either is unfamiliar with MMOs and the initial launch or lack the maturity and patience of a sensible adult.

I grouped with a guy who by chance I was familiar with on Sullon Zek, and I met a guy in that same group who is married who plays on p99 even now with his wife.

Fact of the matter is you have an unnatural obsession with Agnarr now, and can't grasp the concept that just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad. It's just bad for you.

As for how it's going for me, it's a nice change of pace. I find it fun being untwinked, grouping and killing stuff with rusty weapons and patchwork armors, and meeting new people.

None of the things you cry about being on Agnarr have not had any negative effects on me.


*squeezes trigger on Super 8 very hard*

Not quite Sadre but since I'm unable to locate him right now you'll have to do.

[Phatso]

people boxing here? i cant get hyper v to work

[Andos]

awful launch which saw many unable to login straightaway.... how's that fresh server going for you? lol

Oh noes the launch was awful and cost some people hours of their day, and to think they coulda been sitting around waiting to race for ToV mobs.

[Sadiki]

A few hours of minor trouble sure is going to ruin the other 400+ days these thousands of people are going to keep playing. Personally, I'm not sure if I can enjoy killing a skeleton if some dude has more bag space.

[coki]

just saw a level 40 enchanter....crazy

[Beastagoog]

So hit 13 and 11 on my toons.
Game is picking up speed as more spells/skills. Great fun.

Double xp weekend coming up this weekend so hoping to break the 20s. Pop is booming, was about 250 people in Oasis today alone.

(P.s still yet 2 find anyone who cares that some people duped xp pots/40 slot bags)

[Fenna]

nobody killed dragons yet? they musta really nerfed mage pets cause before the one guild did it with 20s and 30s, 37 highest.

[nhdjoseywales]

people boxing here? i cant get hyper v to work

true box server, no vm's allowed. 1 pc per toon

[Daldaen]

nobody killed dragons yet? they musta really nerfed mage pets cause before the one guild did it with 20s and 30s, 37 highest.

Raid NPCs from Classic-PoP have a mighty buff on them.

This prevents pets from being their target, joins the pet and masters hatelist so the master will get summoned, mitigates a varying amount of Melee/spell damage based on the era (40% in classic), increases mob hitpoints and DB, and has an aura that reduces all players Resists as well as reducing pet effectiveness if more than X pets are present at the fight.

Basically it changes Nagafen from a 32k dragon with 225 max hit to a 100-120k dragon with a 550 max hit. Really makes raids in classic feel more classic, will be like 40+ people on the first Nagafen and Vox kill.

[nhdjoseywales]

nobody killed dragons yet? they musta really nerfed mage pets cause before the one guild did it with 20s and 30s, 37 highest.

look up mark of the mighty and mark of the old ways for explanation of why naggy isnt dead yet

[nhdjoseywales]

i am curious how spell crafting works on agnarr

i think on phinny research got nerfed so you can only make spells for 2 xpacs back or some crap i

[zanderklocke]

Agnarr is not classic, but it's kind of fun. I like the aesthetics of Project 1999 much better, but it's sort of fun to try something new.

[BallzDeep]

So hit 13 and 11 on my toons.
Game is picking up speed as more spells/skills. Great fun.

Double xp weekend coming up this weekend so hoping to break the 20s. Pop is booming, was about 250 people in Oasis today alone.

(P.s still yet 2 find anyone who cares that some people duped xp pots/40 slot bags)

That's because Australian's don't understand economy. You probably don't read reddit or the progression forums.

Although I know you are trying to troll, you just annoy me like you do everyone else since your trolling is around the level of a 6 year old.

*Say something you actually semi believe and keep repeating it* HILAROUS. Australian humor for you.

[Zal22]

^ Long live Murica! The place that created the neckbeard.

[Zal22]

Also USA is stupid because they refuse to adopt the metric system.

I can attack America because BallzDeep is stupid and he represents the entire country.

Beastagoog represents all off Australians so attack Australia.

[Pokesan]

Also USA is stupid because they refuse to adopt the metric system.

I can attack America because BallzDeep is stupid and he represents the entire country.

Beastagoog represents all off Australians so attack Australia.

oi mate we got us an angry dingo blokes

[Zal22]

I'll eat your baby!

I concede i was wrong.

All off BallzDeep posts have an attack relating to Beastagoog being Australian. Carry on sirs but leave the country of origin out of it maybe?

[Zal22]

*Of
FFS twice now

[Squabbles123]

So hit 13 and 11 on my toons.
Game is picking up speed as more spells/skills. Great fun.

Double xp weekend coming up this weekend so hoping to break the 20s. Pop is booming, was about 250 people in Oasis today alone.

(P.s still yet 2 find anyone who cares that some people duped xp pots/40 slot bags)

250 people in Oasis?

Wow that must suck, given that the crocs only support about 20 people or so, Highway can support another 12-18 or so. Maybe another 10-20 randoms in running around the dunes killing whats still available...

Sounds like 76% of the zone is unable to find much to kill for exp.

[Gimp]

250 people in Oasis?

Wow that must suck, given that the crocs only support about 20 people or so, Highway can support another 12-18 or so. Maybe another 10-20 randoms in running around the dunes killing whats still available...

Sounds like 76% of the zone is unable to find much to kill for exp.

Those 250 are spread over several instances.

[nhdjoseywales]

250 people in Oasis?

Wow that must suck, given that the crocs only support about 20 people or so, Highway can support another 12-18 or so. Maybe another 10-20 randoms in running around the dunes killing whats still available...

Sounds like 76% of the zone is unable to find much to kill for exp.

Magnets, instanced zones. Potato potahto.

[Daldaen]

Pickzones are an incredible feature. Love me some Agnarr and Phinigel.

Got to level 10, cast SoW on myself and ran from Qeynos Hills to North Karana where a hill Giant owned me as I ran over a hill. Logged off last night laughing my ass off. What a classic experience. Intending to travel across Norrath only for some roaming deep red hill Giant to obliterate me in two swings. I was fully immersed. How long has it been since you got immersed? Or do you just ask everyone for ports and not run anywhere??

[Caiu]

haven't been around a launch for awhile and forgot how much of the chaos can be bent to your whims. made a few krono just looking through innothule swamp merchants and reselling the magic gloves to monks. enjoy the bonus xp soon.

[Skew]

Pickzones are an incredible feature. Love me some Agnarr and Phinigel.

Got to level 10, cast SoW on myself and ran from Qeynos Hills to North Karana where a hill Giant owned me as I ran over a hill. Logged off last night laughing my ass off. What a classic experience. Intending to travel across Norrath only for some roaming deep red hill Giant to obliterate me in two swings. I was fully immersed. How long has it been since you got immersed? Or do you just ask everyone for ports and not run anywhere??

That sounds incredible. Do you have a guild yet?

[Lhancelot]

Aha, a double negative (https://youtu.be/PKo7Ivssqfk?t=16s) - which has led to proof positive, you just gave yourself away and what I spoke of has had an effect.

Inspector Swish closes another case. It's okay though, I'm sure you'll tough it out.

I just want to say you succeed at trolling, it's not really hard especially when you simply attack a subject that others are passionate about. You do this well though.

You also do other ignoble things like snitch on forum posters to the admin here that you initiate fights with, and to me this is lame.

It's sound to say they are partially to blame for their bans, because had they just avoided interaction with you, they would have avoided trouble.

I seen you wrote guides in the past, you used to actually try to help the community, and you were nice to people. What happened?

I recall you already had one lengthy suspension. Maybe you should remember that before it happens again.

At this rate you are going to crash and burn. Again. :(

[Beastagoog]

Goog 2 see lot's of peeps enjoying Agnarr.

Will I log in today? Yes.

Will I enjoy my time? Yes.

Will I get a level or two? Yes.

Will I buy a 40 slot bag? No.

Will my Bronze 2hs (9-47) be swung at many a mob? Yes.

Will my Lockjaw Tunic be replaced? Not right now.

Will I eventually explore and group in Runnyeye? Of course.

Will I log in to p99 to a dragon hasted, fungied twink? No.

Will I continue to have fun on Agnarr for the next 2 years? Probably yes.

Will I make dick jokes in global chat? Of course.

[BallzDeep]

I'll eat your baby!

I concede i was wrong.

All off BallzDeep posts have an attack relating to Beastagoog being Australian. Carry on sirs but leave the country of origin out of it maybe?

You probably don't realize it's more of red99 inside joke since Farzo (Beastagoog) constantly tries to make troll posts on why Australia is better than the US, typically to get shut down fairly quickly.

Swish, you're too possessive (see what I did there) about punctuation, double negatives and spelling over the internet. I'll expect an essay from you after this post.

[Beastagoog]

You probably don't realize it's more of red99 inside joke since Farzo (Beastagoog) constantly tries to make troll posts on why Australia is better than the US, typically to get shut down fairly quickly.

Swish, you're too possessive (see what I did there) about punctuation, double negatives and spelling over the internet. I'll expect an essay from you after this post.

Get shut down? Lol USA is 20 trillion in debt, a gdp of over 110%.
If you have 10 peso's in your pocket your richer than the USA atm

Sorry you voted for Hillary and have being angry every since she lost.

God dayum I would hate to see if any relevent mishap happened in your life. You crying over some people duping 40 slot bags and xp pots when duping has being going on in eq from 1999 due to it's shitty game design.

Did you know in luclin era people could still crash simple trades over and over and eventually the systems failsafe would work in their favor and both toons would end up with the items?

[Squabbles123]

Goog 2 see lot's of peeps enjoying Agnarr.

Will I log in today? Yes.

Will I enjoy my time? Yes.

Will I get a level or two? Yes.

Will I buy a 40 slot bag? No.

Will my Bronze 2hs (9-47) be swung at many a mob? Yes.

Will my Lockjaw Tunic be replaced? Not right now.

Will I eventually explore and group in Runnyeye? Of course.

Will I log in to p99 to a dragon hasted, fungied twink? No.

Will I continue to have fun on Agnarr for the next 2 years? Probably yes.

Will I make dick jokes in global chat? Of course.


Will you continue to post in the p99 forums even though you just said you no longer play here and play on Agnarr instead? Probably yes.

[Beastagoog]

Will you continue to post in the p99 forums even though you just said you no longer play here and play on Agnarr instead? Probably yes.

Can confirm, yes.

[BallzDeep]

Get shut down? Lol USA is 20 trillion in debt, a gdp of over 110%.
If you have 10 peso's in your pocket your richer than the USA atm

Sorry you voted for Hillary and have being angry every since she lost.

God dayum I would hate to see if any relevent mishap happened in your life. You crying over some people duping 40 slot bags and xp pots when duping has being going on in eq from 1999 due to it's shitty game design.

Did you know in luclin era people could still crash simple trades over and over and eventually the systems failsafe would work in their favor and both toons would end up with the items?

Sorry you're new to live. Sorry you weren't there for Fippy and Ragefire launches. I've played these servers before, sorry you haven't. I already said I benefitted from the bug, it doesn't bother me. I'm making the simple observation from every server I've played on the launch was worse than any previous.

I don't vote for a system that is already setup to fail but if I did, I'm more of a Donald person since I'm a major advocate for the second amendment. Debt doesn't mean anything with you have the most buying power, you can basically change the market how you please.

Sorry you think you're trolling by typing a whole paragraph but I'll let you on a secret...I don't care, if you end up learning that you aren't good at it.

[Lune]

Goog 2 see lot's of peeps enjoying Agnarr.

Will I log in today? Yes.

Will I enjoy my time? Yes.

Will I get a level or two? Yes.

Will I buy a 40 slot bag? No.

Will my Bronze 2hs (9-47) be swung at many a mob? Yes.

Will my Lockjaw Tunic be replaced? Not right now.

Will I eventually explore and group in Runnyeye? Of course.

Will I log in to p99 to a dragon hasted, fungied twink? No.

Will I continue to have fun on Agnarr for the next 2 years? Probably yes.

Will I make dick jokes in global chat? Of course.

I'll never buy the bag but it's starting to fuck me over not having it.

I fill my bags and/or get encumbered within 30 minutes of grouping and for the rest of the session I can't make money. Pretty shitty.

[Valura]

agnarr will be dead in a year

[Phenyo]

I'll never buy the bag but it's starting to fuck me over not having it.

I fill my bags and/or get encumbered within 30 minutes of grouping and for the rest of the session I can't make money. Pretty shitty.

How is this any different to p99?

[mickmoranis]

it is fresh, once recycle 99 there will be no reason to play eq anywhere else, unless you're a lesser quality human that prefers post velious everquest

[AzzarTheGod]

i get real in depth with the 40 slot if yall boys really real enough

[Lune]

How is this any different to p99?

On P99 I'm not competing in an economy full of people who can loot and sell to their heart's content.

ie, if there's more plat floating around, prices tend to be higher.

[Daldaen]

19 different pick zones of Unrest right now with 14-45 characters in each pick.

Confirmed dead server.

[Rivera]

Paying for EQ in 2017.
Instanced EQ in 2017.

[Mead]

Sorry you're new to live. Sorry you weren't there for Fippy and Ragefire launches. I've played these servers before, sorry you haven't. I already said I benefitted from the bug, it doesn't bother me. I'm making the simple observation from every server I've played on the launch was worse than any previous.

I don't vote for a system that is already setup to fail but if I did, I'm more of a Donald person since I'm a major advocate for the second amendment. Debt doesn't mean anything with you have the most buying power, you can basically change the market how you please.

Sorry you think you're trolling by typing a whole paragraph but I'll let you on a secret...I don't care, if you end up learning that you aren't good at it.

Just because you say don't care what others think and you are open about exploiting a bug doesn't make you any less of a piece of shit. You sure do put a lot of effort in for not caring tho. I can't wait for the response of how much you still don't care.

[Beastagoog]

Lotta mad nerds hatin on Agnarr.

Double ding 20 on both toons.

Coming along real good.

Had a ball today in upper guk.

Sorry you voted hillary and havent recovered from being emotionally attached to some women winning office.

Welp back 2 it here.

[BallzDeep]

Just because you say don't care what others think and you are open about exploiting a bug doesn't make you any less of a piece of shit. You sure do put a lot of effort in for not caring tho. I can't wait for the response of how much you still don't care.

Thanks for the post about caring so much about me caring.

[BallzDeep]

PS I'm already 29 with 25 EXP pots, hope that doesn't bother you too.

[NachtMystium]

Had a speedball today in upper guk.

fixt that for you.

[Beastagoog]

=)

just got 8 hours sleep.

woke up to alot of mad nerds in this thread still.

[zanderklocke]

Lol at people already level 50.

[skarlorn]

what's worse than posting in p99 RNF in 2017?

playing agnarr

i will admit i was tempted today in the pit of a depression

[Beastagoog]

Lol at people already level 50.

yah it's pretty redic, but then again P99 had/has bard swarming so people will find a way to min/max.

It's the nature of EQ.

I think a casual 10-20 hour per week player would take a good 2 months to get to 50.

[Beastagoog]

the bulk of the pop is 10-20 range now.

[Tankdan]

what's worse than posting in p99 RNF in 2017?

Playing P99 / Responding to batphones

[Beastagoog]

so with the xp bonus and lots of groups going on, heading towards 25 on both toons.

welp. hope you smoked meth to stay up for your 16 hour FTE on Gozzrem.

[Mead]

so with the xp bonus and lots of groups going on, heading towards 25 on both toons.

welp. hope you smoked meth to stay up for your 16 hour FTE on Gozzrem.

One guy I leveled with on Phinny did lots of blow to stay up an entire exp weekend. Then he logged out and never returned. Good times.

[kotton05]

so with the xp bonus and lots of groups going on, heading towards 25 on both toons.

welp. hope you smoked meth to stay up for your 16 hour FTE on Gozzrem.

Are performance enhancing drugs allowed on p99

[Tecmos Deception]

the bulk of the pop is 10-20 range now.

I used to think I was pretty harcore about leveling in MMOs. Apparently I'm not anymore though, cause my characters are at 8 and 6 and I'm not going to be home from camping until the xp bonus is almost over :(

[Phistt]

level 15... damn it feels good bein a filthy casual.

[Bruno]

I used to think I was pretty harcore about leveling in MMOs. Apparently I'm not anymore though, cause my characters are at 8 and 6 and I'm not going to be home from camping until the xp bonus is almost over :(

All my toons are level 1. I have all of my names in case I decide to play. I might tool around here and there. There's plenty of time to enjoy the server without having to rush or let it impact your real life.

[ziffiz]

All my toons are level 1. I have all of my names in case I decide to play. I might tool around here and there. There's plenty of time to enjoy the server without having to rush or let it impact your real life.

Ive done the exact same. Im avoiding the rush and playing P1999 but I might play around some on Agnarr as well. I just cant stand to compete with 15 people rushing to kill every newbie mob just as it spawns.

Ive thought alot about Agnarr and P1999 the last few weeks and the ive come down to one big distinction for me. Travel. Pop forever changed travel. Anyone can get almost anywhere quickly with Pop. Convenient but changed the game too much for me. I could handle everything else about PoP.

[raato]

All my toons are level 1. I have all of my names in case I decide to play. I might tool around here and there. There's plenty of time to enjoy the server without having to rush or let it impact your real life.

I reserved all toxic players names so hopefully they will consider twice before starting at Agnarr.

[Beastagoog]

There were 55 Unrest's up at some point today which was basically the entire population of the emulated community in 1 zone on Agnarr.

This server's being really successful, but only time will tell if it endures.

(in before someone crying about someone else who dupped a 40 slot bag so its ruined the server)

[raato]

"This has really been successful - we should do another one!" - Daybreak (May 2017)

"OKAY GUYS - NEW SERVER COMING OCTOBER 2017, ITS LIKE AGNARR BUT WITH 1 THING CHANGED!" - Daybreak (June 2017)

(Agnarr pop nosedives, everyone gets excited for that FRESH server feel again - who will *win* this time? So exciting...)

Even if it nosedives, it will never get as low as red pop :>

[Andos]

I reserved all toxic players names so hopefully they will consider twice before starting at Agnarr.

That's a lot of accounts...

[BallzDeep]

This message is hidden because Beastagoog is on your ignore list.

[Beastagoog]

Lol Ballzdeep so upset about 40 slot bags being dupped that he added me to ignore.

Rofl.

Well done.

[Uuruk]

"This has really been successful - we should do another one!" - Daybreak (May 2017)

"OKAY GUYS - NEW SERVER COMING OCTOBER 2017, ITS LIKE AGNARR BUT WITH 1 THING CHANGED!" - Daybreak (June 2017)

(Agnarr pop nosedives, everyone gets excited for that FRESH server feel again - who will *win* this time? So exciting...)

Worked 4 times now. Sorry your server is dying and your country sucks.

[Mead]

swish in full meltdown mode

[Gimp]

I reserved all toxic players names so hopefully they will consider twice before starting at Agnarr.

Someone took Gimpster :(

[Murri]

http://i.imgur.com/SYhguWK.png

[Soandso]

Server is pay to win trash.

[Izmael]

Agnarr is pretty fun to fool around on. Ez mode EQ.

Not pay to win though.

[Tecmos Deception]

Not pay to win though.

To me, pay to win means "you can spend real life money to acquire an ingame advantage over players who do not spend real life money."

By that definition, Agnarr is very pay to win. XP potions, that tinkerer's bag on steroids, buying Kronos with real money and using it as a currency so that you never need to farm your own droppable gear or platinum, etc. The fact that multiboxing is a big advantage even if all you do with it is have a druid to port and PL your new alts or something, but that you have to shell out money for extra computers to do so?

That's pretty pure pay to win.

[Beastagoog]

To me, pay to win means "you can spend real life money to acquire an ingame advantage over players who do not spend real life money."

By that definition, Agnarr is very pay to win. XP potions, that tinkerer's bag on steroids, buying Kronos with real money and using it as a currency so that you never need to farm your own droppable gear or platinum, etc. The fact that multiboxing is a big advantage even if all you do with it is have a druid to port and PL your new alts or something, but that you have to shell out money for extra computers to do so?

That's pretty pure pay to win.

You can get:

Krono, weapon looks that make thrm magic, xp potions, and bags from the shops.

Those kronos can be sold for ingame currency that needs to be farmed, or items that also need to be farmed.

Pay to win is buying 10,000 platnium, or buying a level 50 toon, or buying armor/weapons.

You can level 1-50 without ever touching the store.

Btw I am level 31x on both my toons and have farmed enough plat to buy a krono and half considerijg it because its a free month of play. (Krono going for 700pp atm).

So yah it's a decent system, but def not pay 2 win persay. Pay to have an easier start for sure if you're willing to splurge the krono but why bother?

[Lhancelot]

To me, pay to win means "you can spend real life money to acquire an ingame advantage over players who do not spend real life money."

By that definition, Agnarr is very pay to win. XP potions, that tinkerer's bag on steroids, buying Kronos with real money and using it as a currency so that you never need to farm your own droppable gear or platinum, etc. The fact that multiboxing is a big advantage even if all you do with it is have a druid to port and PL your new alts or something, but that you have to shell out money for extra computers to do so?

That's pretty pure pay to win.

I do agree with this, after witnessing Agnarr first hand.

That being said, the server gameplay is so easy and laid back even without such luxuries leveling is a piece of cake.

If someone doesn't want any of the pay to win amenities, they can easily participate, group, level up, etc., and the hindrance is minimal.

Agnarr doesn't offer a classic EQ experience, in fact it offers an EQ game that's much further advanced with many nice QOL details I have to admit that are quite nice and make playing fun.

Some of the benefits of the server or differences though, I am not so fond of.

It's just a change of pace, but really it feels like a totally different game if you compare Agnarr EQ to p99 EQ.

[Beastagoog]

I do agree with this, after witnessing Agnarr first hand.

That being said, the server gameplay is so easy and laid back even without such luxuries leveling is a piece of cake.

If someone doesn't want any of the pay to win amenities, they can easily participate, group, level up, etc., and the hindrance is minimal.

Agnarr doesn't offer a classic EQ experience, in fact it offers an EQ game that's much further advanced with many nice QOL details I have to admit that are quite nice and make playing fun.

Some of the benefits of the server or differences though, I am not so fond of.

It's just a change of pace, but really it feels like a totally different game if you compare Agnarr EQ to p99 EQ.

Yah agro is weird. It is fun tho, enjoying it alot.

Getting 2-3 levels a night in a static group and that seems to be fairly consistent as we have progressed.

[Maner]

You can get:

Krono, weapon looks that make thrm magic, xp potions, and bags from the shops.

Those kronos can be sold for ingame currency that needs to be farmed, or items that also need to be farmed.

Pay to win is buying 10,000 platnium, or buying a level 50 toon, or buying armor/weapons.

You can level 1-50 without ever touching the store.

Btw I am level 31x on both my toons and have farmed enough plat to buy a krono and half considerijg it because its a free month of play. (Krono going for 700pp atm).

So yah it's a decent system, but def not pay 2 win persay. Pay to have an easier start for sure if you're willing to splurge the krono but why bother?

Buying krono is the exact SAME thing as buying platinum or buying weapons and armor.... the system is obviously pay to win you just don't comprehend what it means.

[AzzarTheGod]

To me, pay to win means "you can spend real life money to acquire an ingame advantage over players who do not spend real life money."

By that definition, Agnarr is very pay to win. XP potions, that tinkerer's bag on steroids, buying Kronos with real money and using it as a currency so that you never need to farm your own droppable gear or platinum, etc. The fact that multiboxing is a big advantage even if all you do with it is have a druid to port and PL your new alts or something, but that you have to shell out money for extra computers to do so?

That's pretty pure pay to win.

so you have to pay for the right to box on Agnarr?

First ive heard of this

[Uuruk]

Tecmos knows all about pay to win. Ask him about what happened to him on p99

[coki]

as of last night i think all raid targets are down, the "Faceless Order" with their strict must be leveling 18+hours per day in our groups to join guild has done it boizzzz

[Lhancelot]

Tecmos knows all about pay to win. Ask him about what happened to him on p99

Really? and he's complaining about pay to win on Agnarr? Aint that rich.

[Uuruk]

Really? and he's complaining about pay to win on Agnarr? Aint that rich.

Here ya go!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

[Lhancelot]

Here ya go!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

He's reformed and rehabilitated though, I am sure.

He learned his lesson and is flying the straight and narrow, that's why he is so against Agnarr having anything at all resembling "pay to win."

Right?

[mickmoranis]

Tecmos knows all about pay to win. Ask him about what happened to him on p99

http://i.imgur.com/gdj4C0h.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

Here ya go!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

holy shit

[mickmoranis]

Sounds like he has some ragrets.

https://youtu.be/R7wJTpzFE3M?t=55

[Lune]

29 ranger, camped a dragoon dirk yesterday, saved a group of newbs who were eating shit, sold fletched bows to people for 10pp each, sold about 10 of em, crafted a forged longsword for somebody

shit was somewhat classic

[kotton05]

as of last night i think all raid targets are down, the "Faceless Order" with their strict must be leveling 18+hours per day in our groups to join guild has done it boizzzz

Was in TFO once. They're really good at using methods that power game. One I remember was three zerker warriors just running around being boxed annihilating seb.

[mickmoranis]

Can I get some screen shots of what this abomination looks like?

[Lune]

doin unrest basement w/ elf homies

http://i.imgur.com/cSE5W8U.jpg

[mickmoranis]

not bad, those spell effects are sad tho.

[Lune]

not bad, those spell effects are sad tho.

Lightning one is legit the only one i like, prefer it to the red stars

all the other ones are vomit tho

[Pokesan]

Here ya go!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

this is very embarassing

[Beastagoog]

Buying krono is the exact SAME thing as buying platinum or buying weapons and armor.... the system is obviously pay to win you just don't comprehend what it means.

Naw its not direct pay2win. You just can't see the subtle differences between it.

It's a player driven buy in system. A pay 2 win systems is like this: buy 10,000 pp from the cash shop that gets generated at sale point. If you buy 2 krono, you then trade that for shit players in the game gathered up. Huuuuuge difference my man.

All items, plat that people trade krono's for were farmed in game.

[Beastagoog]

I have enough plat now that i have farmed up along the way to buy a Krono in game. Meaning I can get 1 month sub for free on one of my accounts just by the mere fact someone wants to trade a krono for my plat.

[originalman]

doin unrest basement w/ elf homies

http://i.imgur.com/cSE5W8U.jpg

named after baldere????

[zanderklocke]

http://i.imgur.com/vBjcsjD.jpg

This is the only thing that has really bugged me thus far. Otherwise, I'm having a lot of fun. I definitely prefer the old zones that aren't revamped though.

[Tecmos Deception]

yuck

That shit was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, seeing some ridiculous-looking, enormous weapon wielded by an old EQ model in an old EQ zone killing a burly gnoll. Fuck that.

That and, as I said before, the pay to win. I understand that it's not "direct" pay to win. I've been playing Eve for over a decade; I know what a system like Krono is and how it works. But the bottom line on "pay to win" is that if you can use official channels to pay real life money to obtain an advantage over players who pay none (or less)... then it's pay to win.

More power to the people having fun on Agnarr. Kinda wish I could get into it more, cause I WOULD like to grind AAs and play Luclin and PoP. But nope. I'll be here for my EQ fixes until every form of EQ is dead.

[Uuruk]

That shit was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, seeing some ridiculous-looking, enormous weapon wielded by an old EQ model in an old EQ zone killing a burly gnoll. Fuck that.

That and, as I said before, the pay to win. I understand that it's not "direct" pay to win. I've been playing Eve for over a decade; I know what a system like Krono is and how it works. But the bottom line on "pay to win" is that if you can use official channels to pay real life money to obtain an advantage over players who pay none (or less)... then it's pay to win.

More power to the people having fun on Agnarr. Kinda wish I could get into it more, cause I WOULD like to grind AAs and play Luclin and PoP. But nope. I'll be here for my EQ fixes until every form of EQ is dead.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

[Tecmos Deception]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202660

I'm not sure if this is ad hominem or ignoratio elenchi or tu quoque... but one way or the other, you dumb.


There isn't any PvP in this game, so you can't by definition "pay to win".

There's no one to "win" against.

But keep vomiting nonsense if it makes you feel better about not having fun.

Oh relax. I'm not trying to justify myself to anyone. Kudos for being so edgy that you don't believe "pay to win" is possible except in direct PVP contexts though. You sound like a hard man.

[kotton05]

It's totally pay to win with the option to not pay to win... also give tecmos a break at least he came clean, no amount of spinning Shit onto him will change the fact agnar is pay to win.

[Utmost]

Putting aug in weapon to change appearance can make it magic weapon. Kill the wisps.

[Uuruk]

It's totally pay to win with the option to not pay to win... also give tecmos a break at least he came clean, no amount of spinning Shit onto him will change the fact agnar is pay to win.

He came clean because he got fucking caught dumbass. Some real mental retardation going down in this thread.

[Lhancelot]

That shit was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, seeing some ridiculous-looking, enormous weapon wielded by an old EQ model in an old EQ zone killing a burly gnoll. Fuck that.

That and, as I said before, the pay to win. I understand that it's not "direct" pay to win. I've been playing Eve for over a decade; I know what a system like Krono is and how it works. But the bottom line on "pay to win" is that if you can use official channels to pay real life money to obtain an advantage over players who pay none (or less)... then it's pay to win.

More power to the people having fun on Agnarr. Kinda wish I could get into it more, cause I WOULD like to grind AAs and play Luclin and PoP. But nope. I'll be here for my EQ fixes until every form of EQ is dead.

Many of Tecmos points I agree with. I find the huge, WOW-style weapons off-putting on old models (which I prefer using.)

I do not like the majority of the new spell particle effects.

Shaman Cannibalize has big floating cartoon bones around the shaman after every cast... Really? I HATE the sound Cannibalize makes on p99, but damn, I rather it than see cartoon bones float up and around my shaman after every cast.

The updated zones aren't awful, I do prefer the old style look. Might be because old models I prefer using do not mesh that well with new model zone graphics.

I do like how you have a shared bank slot.

I do like how you can adjust the group window and UI to really fit your customized preference.

I think some of the technical changes regarding the UI and the QOL changes added with new EQ were decent.

Where new EQ failed was trying to create art on top of the old art.

It's like taking a Picasso and then years later adding on to the canvas an "improved" addition of colors and forms to the painting.

Obviously altering a Picasso in anyway would ruin it, and in some ways I feel this is what happened to EQ when they decided to update it's zones and character models.

They took a really artistic and beautiful game in it's own right then defiled it by trying to improve upon it. It's almost like they deliberately ruined it out of pure malice or envy, the way so much of the charm of old EQ was altered and changed.

Michael's Shenanigans highlights just how creative and crazy the original devs were in their game design, they added art details the common player never noticed or if they did, had no idea the reason behind it! This to me is really neat.

Old EQ truly has real mysteries behind its art work, and new EQ took a spray paint can and completely wrecked it, leaving it in a state you can't even begin to appreciate what was created by the original artists of the game. I think this is too bad.

Essentially I find new EQ great for casual players who don't care about the finer details and art of the game, who are more interested in progressing a toon and getting as much high end gears as possible, while also having a fairly fast paced fun group experience while leveling.

For me, I enjoy the nuances of old EQ, the art work really appeals to me and I rather play the old original style of EQ over the new glossy EQ.

The old EQ also adds a dimension of grit that the new one lacks, as leveling is so easy on new EQ you feel as though you are hardly accomplishing anything because it truly is that easy.

Thanks to P99 - Rogean, Sirken, Nilbog, Llandris, and all the other guides, devs, etc., that have been involved in creating P99 and keeping it going all these years. They have given gamers of the past and new gamers a true opportunity to see just how beautiful the original Everquest still is when kept in it's most original form.

I have no animosity to those who enjoy new EQ, but for my tastes it falls short. I wish it wasn't so, as I think it offers a decent experience in gaming, it just lacks the artistic flavor and magic of the original EQ and that ruins it for me.


TL;DR

I respect new EQ and those who enjoy it, but for me it lacks too much of the magic that makes old EQ so mysteriously fun and entertaining. I am sticking with P99.

[Daldaen]

Got to level 42 this weekend, got a Guise and a few Wisdom items and focus items.

Spents $0 on ornaments to make my weapons look stupid, on exp potions or on any other stupid cash shop shit. A P99 pal did use a group EXP Potion for my group in Unrest one evening, the next day I repaid him by giving him a Ring of the Ancients, gotta love porting into SRo and ancient cyclops being on track!

If you want to let people's choice to spend money on shit be your reason to not play there that's fine. But it's certainly not a requirement by any means. You can faceroll through some content with characters in rags and have a good time doing it regardless of whether your rolling in EXP potions or can't figure out how to open up the marketplace window.

I think at its peak I saw 20 picks of about 30 people in each LGuk instance. Good fun was had by all. Got trained a few times, got revenge a few times and lost a few named mobs to kill stealers. Didn't have to go to a GM to resolve any issues I had, just figure it out myself. Felt good.

[raato]

I do like the fact that people keep crying about pay to win on server that

a.) is not PVP
b.) has instanced raiding

Please do enlighten me how does it affect your gameplay that someone pays for clarity potions or similar on PVE server?

[Tecmos Deception]

How many of you guys would go play a friendly, casual round of golf with 3 of your pals, and then when one guy insists on playing off the women's tee and talking about how he's shooting a few strokes better than everyone else... how many of you would not make fun of that stupid fucker mercilessly for the rest of his life?

That's what Agnarr is imo :)

[Mead]

The RMTer and friend's account stealer (on an elf sim) is talking about making fun of someone mercilessly for the rest of his life? aight

[raato]

How many of you guys would go play a friendly, casual round of golf with 3 of your pals, and then when one guy insists on playing off the women's tee and talking about how he's shooting a few strokes better than everyone else... how many of you would not make fun of that stupid fucker mercilessly for the rest of his life?

That's what Agnarr is imo :)

You do realize that you don't have to play with those guys? :>

[Tecmos Deception]

I'd probably push him into the nearest water hazard too.

[Maner]

Naw its not direct pay2win. You just can't see the subtle differences between it.

It's a player driven buy in system. A pay 2 win systems is like this: buy 10,000 pp from the cash shop that gets generated at sale point. If you buy 2 krono, you then trade that for shit players in the game gathered up. Huuuuuge difference my man.

All items, plat that people trade krono's for were farmed in game.

You pay real money for something of value in game that you can then use as currency to buy in game items. That is pay to win. It also has nothing to do with pvp like some other people are trying to claim. Many P2W mmos don't have pvp

[kotton05]

I do like the fact that people keep crying about pay to win on server that

a.) is not PVP
b.) has instanced raiding

Please do enlighten me how does it affect your gameplay that someone pays for clarity potions or similar on PVE server?

It's viable to not pay to win. I commend those who choose that route.

[Tecmos Deception]

You do realize that you don't have to play with those guys? :>

You mean kinda like I am doing right now? :rolleyes:

What are you trying to get at here? It's not like I told Daybreak their server sucks and that they should change it. I haven't told anyone else that they shouldn't enjoy themselves on Agnarr. I haven't told anyone not to spend all the RL cash they possibly can on Kronos if that's how they get their rocks off. I simply stated what I think about Agnarr and why I don't like it as much as I like my other options.

You're the one posting because you can't seem to handle another person having fun a different way than you do.

[zanderklocke]

Putting aug in weapon to change appearance can make it magic weapon. Kill the wisps.

Where do you get these in classic?

[Pokesan]

this RMT guy surely has no agenda trashing a server he has no assets on

[Mead]

this RMT guy surely has no agenda trashing a server he has no assets on

lol

[Tecmos Deception]

Okay, so who am I winning against?

I'm not in any competition with the other 3000 people playing.

Am I winning against mobs? Nope, my 40 slot bag deals zero damage.

It doesn't sound like you're winning against anyone or anything, anywhere ;)

[Spyder73]

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[Lune]

Okay, so who am I winning against?

I'm not in any competition with the other 3000 people playing.

Am I winning against mobs? Nope, my 40 slot bag deals zero damage.

Well in reality you're just paying to cheat yourself out of progression because you can't delay gratification.

But you're using a overly narrow definition of 'win'. If you want to know what kind of damage the krono economy causes, consider that being able to buy into the economy with real money pits you against legit players, and creates purchasing power that wouldn't otherwise be there, affecting demand and therefore prices.

Consider the price of torpor here on P99. Every shaman wants it. Few shamans can afford it. Yet over the period of 2013-2015 the price doubled as eligible shamans increased.

Also that 40 slot bag severely impacts newb cash flow. I know for a fact my ranger can't stuff my backpacks with fine steel weapons until I can't move, and I can't go vendor every 30 mins if I want to keep my spot in a good group at the bottom of Guk.

[HippoNipple]

How many of you guys would go play a friendly, casual round of golf with 3 of your pals, and then when one guy insists on playing off the women's tee and talking about how he's shooting a few strokes better than everyone else... how many of you would not make fun of that stupid fucker mercilessly for the rest of his life?

That's what Agnarr is imo :)

Golf is PvP.

Project 1999 is also pay to win, you were a part of it. Every MMO is pay to win to some extent unless all items are no drop.

[Maner]

I'm using the definition of win, as opposed to changing the meaning of a word or phrase to suit my agend. And if the injection of krono makes a fungi tunic worth 5k instead of the 25k it has been for years on p99, I'm fine with that deal. P99s economy is full of people who have neckbearded for years, amassed a substantial sum of plat and proceed to turn it into the shitshow it is currently.

So because I spent money to shorten the amount of trips I had to vendor, it means I'm paying to win? in that context anything you do in EQ to shorten the time it takes to accomplish an objective is paying to win, regardless of the currency. Instead of paying to win using a druid when traveling around, take the boat. Instead of paying to win with that fungi tunic, level up with a patchwork chest.

Yea, sounds pretty ridiculous.

No, because any other currency you used, you got by playing the game not by just paying more money. Honestly what a stupid argument...

[Lune]

I'm using the definition of win, as opposed to changing the meaning of a word or phrase to suit my agend. And if the injection of krono makes a fungi tunic worth 5k instead of the 25k it has been for years on p99, I'm fine with that deal. P99s economy is full of people who have neckbearded for years, amassed a substantial sum of plat and proceed to turn it into the shitshow it is currently.

So because I spent money to shorten the amount of trips I had to vendor, it means I'm paying to win? in that context anything you do in EQ to shorten the time it takes to accomplish an objective is paying to win, regardless of the currency. Instead of paying to win using a druid when traveling around, take the boat. Instead of paying to win with that fungi tunic, level up with a patchwork chest.

Yea, sounds pretty ridiculous.

holocaust levels of denial

[nhdjoseywales]

No, because any other currency you used, you got by playing the game not by just paying more money. Honestly what a stupid argument...

I'm pretty sure the people making the pay to win argument over a bag are the stupid ones. In any event, don't play on real servers, you aren't welcome and we are tired of you idiots clogging the real forums whining about people boxing. The world is a sadder place because you exist.

[mickmoranis]

That shit was the straw that broke the camel's back for me

Ive been constnatly asking about revamped zones and stuff cus I knew that no matter what, anyone who was a fan of p99 would not be able to handle that garbage collection they call a game now haha

[Tecmos Deception]

Golf is PvP.

Project 1999 is also pay to win, you were a part of it. Every MMO is pay to win to some extent unless all items are no drop.

If a "friendly" and "casual" game of golf with "pals" is PVP, then everything is, including EQ. If it isn't, then you have no point.

P1999 is NOT pay to win because you get yourself fucking banned if you buy via RMT.

And saying that everything is p2w because if you don't at least spend some money/time/effort on things, then you won't have a computer to play on or time to type in your password on the login screen or whatever. But that's pretty asinine.


If paying real money for a quadra-tink bag, when actual tink bags are out of reach for plat ingame for all except the .1%... if buying kronos with real money and using them as currency instead of farming plat or farming items directly... if that shit isn't pay two win... then what the hell do you guys think pay to win is? Literally paying money to be awarded a 1st place ribbon via mail and the server being closed down because one person bought victory?

[originalman]

If a "friendly" and "casual" game of golf with "pals" is PVP, then everything is, including EQ. If it isn't, then you have no point.

P1999 is NOT pay to win because you get yourself fucking banned if you buy via RMT.

And saying that everything is p2w because if you don't at least spend some money/time/effort on things, then you won't have a computer to play on or time to type in your password on the login screen or whatever. But that's pretty asinine.


If paying real money for a quadra-tink bag, when actual tink bags are out of reach for plat ingame for all except the .1%... if buying kronos with real money and using them as currency instead of farming plat or farming items directly... if that shit isn't pay two win... then what the hell do you guys think pay to win is? Literally paying money to be awarded a 1st place ribbon via mail and the server being closed down because one person bought victory?

i remember seeing some thread of yours about "coming clean" about something (didn't read, obviously) that was like 10000 words linked recently. just letting u know u have no cred here and should really roll a new forum account to compartmentalize ur past embarrassments. until u put it behind u ur still that person.

free advice u don't have to take.

[Lune]

Good post. Sadly the shelf life on these TLPs doesn't really make the grind worthwhile anyway...bought bags or not, if Daybreak's next creation is "Agnarr with a twist" you know over half the pop is going onto the next one.... onto the next one...

What does shelf life matter? EQ is about the journey.

I won't be able to play even 5 weeks from now because im starting grad school, doesn't stop me enjoying experiencing """classic""" progression on my ranger.

[Lhancelot]

i remember seeing some thread of yours about "coming clean" about something (didn't read, obviously) that was like 10000 words linked recently. just letting u know u have no cred here and should really roll a new forum account to compartmentalize ur past embarrassments. until u put it behind u ur still that person.

free advice u don't have to take.

Tecmos. Bad advice there. ^

You should deal with the pain you caused the server and other players for the rest of your life. All suffering you experience is deserved and righteous.

Do not run from your past, but embrace it and let it be your motivation to be a better person now and forever.

People always try to run and hide from themselves, they never get far.

No one will forget your past transgressions, least of all you. As it should be.

That being said, this pain will only strengthen you.

Let the pain motivate you to become a good, righteous man unlike that man you once were selling your soul for pixels and money.

I believe in you, and feel you will rise above this shadow of a filthy past you have hovering over you. In time it will fade, as long as you continue being truly reformed and showing honest regret.

[Tecmos Deception]

Good Lord.

[originalman]

Tecmos. Bad advice there. ^

You should deal with the pain you caused the server and other players for the rest of your life. All suffering you experience is deserved and righteous.

Do not run from your past, but embrace it and let it be your motivation to be a better person now and forever.

People always try to run and hide from themselves, they never get far.

No one will forget your past transgressions, least of all you. As it should be.

That being said, this pain will only strengthen you.

Let the pain motivate you to become a good, righteous man unlike that man you once were selling your soul for pixels and money.

I believe in you, and feel you will rise above this shadow of a filthy past you have hovering over you. In time it will fade, as long as you continue being truly reformed and showing honest regret.

confirmed this guy reads pixel drama posts. hitchcock shit

[Lhancelot]

confirmed this guy reads pixel drama posts. hitchcock shit

Who on these forums doesn't?

[originalman]

Who on these forums doesn't?

good point.


lovecraft shit

[nostalgiaquest]

stealing shit, RMT, and backstabbing is all part of the classic experience. Tecmos is doing it right.

Super lol about forum cred.

[Beastagoog]

Y'all are fools if you think p99 is vlassic.

It's so far from vlassic:

-modified files
-modified ui's
-modified game mechanics
-modfied spell mechanics
- 50,000 prenerf CoS
- everyone has jboots
-everyone has levi cloaks
-everyone has fungi's
-everyone has dragon haste
-modified monk pulling mechanics
-modfied NtoV zone mobs
-everyone that raids uses audio triggers, ch rotation triggers, buff time triggers
-quick swap slots with multible bars to drag items on to
-everyone has 4+clickies
-everyone has soulfires
-everyone has calimony pots
-everyone has ot hammers (fucking barely anyone had ot hammers in vlassic but the classes with faction or could charm)
-everyone has puppet strings
-everyone has nets for roots they recharge
-everyone min/maxes
-everyone has a rogue alt to down raid targets
-mobs arent tanked like they were in classic where you had to let the tank get agro and if he lost agro it was a pita because half the raid would wipe to him. Here every warrior and tank class has intant clicky agro in the form of mallets.

This list goes on and on...

People talk about "vlassic" EQ but project1999 is so far from classic. It's a skinned and modfied version that resembles a mirror image of classic...but every mod con possible is used, and abused.

[Beastagoog]

Forgot to add:

-everyone has epics
-everyone has resist gear sets
-everyone has a port bot
-everyone has a cleric bot
-everyone has a farm toon
-everyone has 5 level 60s to back up the raids
-server is full of neckbeards that kill raid targets withing 15 mins of popping

[Tecmos Deception]

stealing shit, RMT, and backstabbing is all part of the classic experience. Tecmos is doing it right.

Super lol about forum cred.

I only duped in actual classic. I think my time in Eve Online has had an impact on my EQ personality though somewhere between 2004 and 2010ish when I found P99.

[Beastagoog]

Example of modfied ui+game triggers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VmmCSnb87lc

Very classic.

[Tankdan]

Example of modfied ui+game triggers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VmmCSnb87lc

Very classic.

Thanks for the example dude we all had no clue what you were talking about.

[Maner]

Y'all are fools if you think p99 is vlassic.

It's so far from vlassic:

-modified files
-modified ui's
-modified game mechanics
-modfied spell mechanics
- 50,000 prenerf CoS
- everyone has jboots
-everyone has levi cloaks
-everyone has fungi's
-everyone has dragon haste
-modified monk pulling mechanics
-modfied NtoV zone mobs
-everyone that raids uses audio triggers, ch rotation triggers, buff time triggers
-quick swap slots with multible bars to drag items on to
-everyone has 4+clickies
-everyone has soulfires
-everyone has calimony pots
-everyone has ot hammers (fucking barely anyone had ot hammers in vlassic but the classes with faction or could charm)
-everyone has puppet strings
-everyone has nets for roots they recharge
-everyone min/maxes
-everyone has a rogue alt to down raid targets
-mobs arent tanked like they were in classic where you had to let the tank get agro and if he lost agro it was a pita because half the raid would wipe to him. Here every warrior and tank class has intant clicky agro in the form of mallets.

This list goes on and on...

People talk about "vlassic" EQ but project1999 is so far from classic. It's a skinned and modfied version that resembles a mirror image of classic...but every mod con possible is used, and abused.

90% of those things would happen to any server that was around, at different stages of classic, as p99 was. A majority of people don't have puppet strings, rogue alts, soulfires, 4+ clickies, Levi cloaks, or have fungi tunics. The amount of assumptions you have to make should alert you to the fact that you're probably wrong.

What is modified about the ntov dragons right now?

[Beastagoog]

90% of those things would happen to any server that was around, at different stages of classic, as p99 was. A majority of people don't have puppet strings, rogue alts, soulfires, 4+ clickies, Levi cloaks, or have fungi tunics. The amount of assumptions you have to make should alert you to the fact that you're probably wrong.

What is modified about the ntov dragons right now?

Luclin era drakes in game.

Also very few people had jboots/levi cloak on live.
Because no one leaked the info on how to pop him.
And ancient cyclops didnt have a flat spawn rate in south ro meaning every week tons of jboota flood the market.
Again....very classic server.

Also most neckbeards have the things I listed.

So again p99 is a poor reflection on what was classic.......very poor.

If you think classic eq is running around at level 40 with jboots+levi cloak and 150 mr with a fungi and dragon haste then you never played classic eq. Classic eq was bronze till 40-50 begging for sows.

You cannot claim p99 is classic when game breaking buffs are so freely available (levi and jboots).

[Scailed]

so what you're sayin is this is how classic would have been if the player base had more knowledge?

[originalman]

begging for sows.

ironically this is also how the few of u who lost ur virginity accomplished such

[Soandso]

Playing just before. Saw a dude selling a yak for 1 krono, no platinum offers. I can now pay real money to own a yak at level 1 on a new server with doing literally NOTHING...pay to win is a hard concept:eek:

[Beastagoog]

so what you're sayin is this is how classic would have been if the player base had more knowledge?

Nope. For a server that every1 claims is classic and dont play x server coz its not classic.

Look at this video and tell if at anytime during classic era did someone have a highly modified ui like this, with audio triggers/game triggers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuXyehAuWss

If people on p99 wanted a classic experience they'd be on takp where such modification arent highly available.

P99ers live in a dream that they are playing classic EQ lol.

[Beastagoog]

Playing just before. Saw a dude selling a yak for 1 krono, no platinum offers. I can now pay real money to own a yak at level 1 on a new server with doing literally NOTHING...pay to win is a hard concept:eek:

You'd be an idiot to buy it. Yaks wil be 200 pp in a few weeks.

I hope people buy it out of stupidity and desperation.

[waltjig]

one of the biggest mysteries to me is how people like Beastagoog shit so hard on P99 but still justify coming to the P99 forums to do it. go post in the agnarr forums?

[Andos]

What is modified about the ntov dragons right now?

The number of items they drop...

[LostCause]

Probably but nothing will look classic because of idiotic ornaments

you know you can turn that off right?












NEXT

[Beastagoog]

one of the biggest mysteries to me is how people like Beastagoog shit so hard on P99 but still justify coming to the P99 forums to do it. go post in the agnarr forums?

This is an Agnarr thread and people are comparing the two games.

Grow a set of balls if you cant hack it.

[Tecmos Deception]

This is an Agnarr thread and people are comparing the two games.

That's the key.

Nobody really believes p99 is some perfect recreation of both the mechanics and the overall experience that was classic eq.

But the mechanics are closer than anything else (by a long shot), and the experience generally is too. And they'll only get better as things get polished, and we hopefully someday get a new server with the right timeline.

[heyokah]

^^^ Max level is 50 dumdum

[Rivera]

Paying real money for a server that will be dead by the end of the year, lol.

[Spyder73]

There are way more poor people on P99 than rich people. There are some super wealthy individuals but I would not say that's the norm. You are completely discounting that people routinely leave P99 and its an ever revolving door.

[nhdjoseywales]

Paying real money for a server that will be dead by the end of the year, lol.

disposable income, what a concept.

[Uuruk]

I have 473 krono. 1 going to put a dent for sure.

[Lune]

Runnyeye is totally inundated with afk-farming mages/necros using 3rd party programs to have their pets KS the zone.

Once a destroyer spawns anywhere on the bottom floor a mage pet shows up out of nowhere and kills it.

And of course DBG, as a holding company trying to wring EQ for all its worth, isn't going to invest in CSR, so there's no recourse. Can't even train them because there's not enough high lvl shit in the zone to kill them.

[nhdjoseywales]

Report them, they will go away if they are using third party programs. However, /target name_of_mob /pet attack isn't a third party program so good luck with that.

[originalman]

Runnyeye is totally inundated with afk-farming mages/necros using 3rd party programs to have their pets KS the zone.

Once a destroyer spawns anywhere on the bottom floor a mage pet shows up out of nowhere and kills it.

And of course DBG, as a holding company trying to wring EQ for all its worth, isn't going to invest in CSR, so there's no recourse. Can't even train them because there's not enough high lvl shit in the zone to kill them.

breaking news live eq is gay

[Uuruk]

Report them, they will go away if they are using third party programs. However, /target name_of_mob /pet attack isn't a third party program so good luck with that.

Automated programs to run them is though. Good one dipshit.

[Man0warr]

Runnyeye is totally inundated with afk-farming mages/necros using 3rd party programs to have their pets KS the zone.

Once a destroyer spawns anywhere on the bottom floor a mage pet shows up out of nowhere and kills it.

And of course DBG, as a holding company trying to wring EQ for all its worth, isn't going to invest in CSR, so there's no recourse. Can't even train them because there's not enough high lvl shit in the zone to kill them.

Happened on Phinny too. Good thing about no CSR is you can retaliate how you see fit.

[Maner]

Luclin era drakes in game.

Also very few people had jboots/levi cloak on live.
Because no one leaked the info on how to pop him.
And ancient cyclops didnt have a flat spawn rate in south ro meaning every week tons of jboota flood the market.
Again....very classic server.

Also most neckbeards have the things I listed.

So again p99 is a poor reflection on what was classic.......very poor.

If you think classic eq is running around at level 40 with jboots+levi cloak and 150 mr with a fungi and dragon haste then you never played classic eq. Classic eq was bronze till 40-50 begging for sows.

You cannot claim p99 is classic when game breaking buffs are so freely available (levi and jboots).

Luclin drakes have nothing to do with the dragons in tov. The AC doesn't have a set spawn time as he doesn't always spawn. Jboots and lev cloaks are really what you're bitching about? Have to be pretty dumb to be upset that p99 isn't classic because people know more about the game 15 years later. How many years has this server been going kiddo? Bitching because there are more jboots than in love is pretty dumb...

[Maner]

Nope. For a server that every1 claims is classic and dont play x server coz its not classic.

Look at this video and tell if at anytime during classic era did someone have a highly modified ui like this, with audio triggers/game triggers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuXyehAuWss

If people on p99 wanted a classic experience they'd be on takp where such modification arent highly available.

P99ers live in a dream that they are playing classic EQ lol.

Because reading your log file with a 3rd party program has anything to do with the server you play on. Damn kid, you just blame p99 for everything huh?

[Soandso]

lol bronze in your 40s. How bad must you be to still be in bronze in the 40s?

[Izmael]

lol bronze in your 40s. How bad must you be to still be in bronze in the 40s?

They were referring to the actual classic EQ back in 1999-2000.

Achieving level 50 and still having some bronze pieces was quite common because the game was orders of magnitude harder (mainly due to less readily available knowledge).

[Beastagoog]

Luclin drakes have nothing to do with the dragons in tov. The AC doesn't have a set spawn time as he doesn't always spawn. Jboots and lev cloaks are really what you're bitching about? Have to be pretty dumb to be upset that p99 isn't classic because people know more about the game 15 years later. How many years has this server been going kiddo? Bitching because there are more jboots than in love is pretty dumb...

Lol you're clueless and this post shows it.

If you're trying to compare classicness than yah you havent thr slightest clue what I was eveb talking about.

Not respond after this post because you dont know what you're talking about.

[dafier]

They were referring to the actual classic EQ back in 1999-2000.

Achieving level 50 and still having some bronze pieces was quite common because the game was orders of magnitude harder (mainly due to less readily available knowledge).

In 1999 I had a Pally friend (why he chose pally is beyond me) at level 41 sell enough crap to buy Steel Plate from the vendor in Kelethin. High Elf Pally.

I'll tell you something though. Seeing a 'tank' class wearing something other than that crappy orange looked pretty damn sweet.

[Maner]

Lol you're clueless and this post shows it.

If you're trying to compare classicness than yah you havent thr slightest clue what I was eveb talking about.

Not respond after this post because you dont know what you're talking about.

You claimed the tov dragons weren't classic, your defense was the drakes which have nothing to do with the actual dragons. You bitch about there being more jboots or lev cloaks than on live, the server has been in this era 10x longer than it was on live... not to mention that the vast majority of jboots comes from the AC camp not SRo.

How to spawn quilmane is very well known now unlike back in era, which means that of course there are going to be more cloaks floating around. The fact that this is somehow proof and non classic to you is just stupidity.

"Not respond after this" you're the only one here who doesn't understand why all your complaints are idiotic. Your entire list was just a pathetic attempt to prove that p99 is nothing like classic. Classic was 15+ years ago, so no shit Sherlock. However it is closer to classic than that bastardized agnarr server will ever be with idiots like you and RMT on it. Honestly, either proof read or turn on auto correct.

[Pokesan]

jesus maner

[Lhancelot]

jesus maner

Don't call him that he might take it as a compliment. :D

[Maner]

jesus maner

im not a mexican

[Lhancelot]

im not a mexican

Are you french? I could see your name pronounced as, "Ma-nay."

[Maner]

Are you french? I could see your name pronounced as, "Ma-nay."

Nah, pretty much can only be called an american. My name was due to the random name generator on live 15+ years ago.

[Lhancelot]

Nah, pretty much can only be called an american. My name was due to the random name generator on live 15+ years ago.

Sometimes that thing works out well for some people. I never found a name generated that I liked, personally. I tried thousands of names too, heheh.

[Maner]

Sometimes that thing works out well for some people. I never found a name generated that I liked, personally. I tried thousands of names too, heheh.

The name generator gave me Maneranae lol, Maner is just what i ended up getting called because even i didnt know how to pronounce the other.

[Lhancelot]

The name generator gave me Maneranae lol, Maner is just what i ended up getting called because even i didnt know how to pronounce the other.

had to be a female woodelf with that kind of name. :D

[Maner]

had to be a female woodelf with that kind of name. :D

Male high elf actually...

[originalman]

playing female character is gay playing male character is hard gay

[HippoNipple]

If a "friendly" and "casual" game of golf with "pals" is PVP, then everything is, including EQ. If it isn't, then you have no point.

P1999 is NOT pay to win because you get yourself fucking banned if you buy via RMT.

And saying that everything is p2w because if you don't at least spend some money/time/effort on things, then you won't have a computer to play on or time to type in your password on the login screen or whatever. But that's pretty asinine.


If paying real money for a quadra-tink bag, when actual tink bags are out of reach for plat ingame for all except the .1%... if buying kronos with real money and using them as currency instead of farming plat or farming items directly... if that shit isn't pay two win... then what the hell do you guys think pay to win is? Literally paying money to be awarded a 1st place ribbon via mail and the server being closed down because one person bought victory?

Golf is PvP because it is a sport you play against other people whether or not you are playing casually or professionally.

I said EQ is pay to win because whether you are buying Krono or plat on a 3rd party website you still buy the same crap with it in game. You are saying RMT is bannable as a person who was caught selling. Most of the people participating in RMT are buyers and most of them are not caught. There are only a few big sellers and they keep selling until they eventually get caught. The buyers are the players you would say are paying to win.

[Soandso]

/pickzone is ridiculous that it doesnt put you at zone in. Been using the main instances and running down to where i need to be, then /pick, without any fight cuz everything is down in the main instances.

[Ahldagor]

Anyone else enjoyed multiple versions of eq?

[Soandso]

I have to say, having the lfg and group looking for players system actually working is nice.

[Bubbles]

The economy of Agnarr is fascinating to me, like the subplot in a movie thats actually the most entertaining part to you.... Which is funny, because even as someone with a BS in Economics, i always found EC on p99 dull.. The Valueation of the krono vs platinum in a present tense and projecting it in the future is almost like playing the market or gambling system in an RPG instead of grinding monsters outside the city ad naseum.

I made the call to stop levelling entirely after scoring my 48 spec pet and just immediately farmed plat to turn into krono. Something about seeing SMRs for 3 krono where in a month they will be 10 SMRs for 1 krono makes me giggle. But the timing advantage of having something early can be good.. For example, new pets and liches for a necro would be incredibly advantageous at the time and probably worth a quick krono investment, since having the spells would net you the power to grind 3 krono tomorrow instead of 1.... etc..

Then they announced the 50% bonus weekend. And anyone who cared was 50 by Monday lol. Which totally throws the economy in flux.. Since like a SSB went from a BiS must have to so flooded on the market (think 20 lowerguk picks going at all times all week...) that the homeless were scooping water out of the town well with them by Monday. So something i was getting 1kr for on day 3 was worth pretty much 9copper on day ten... Where those 3 krono went from 1200 in value to almost 4500pp in value..

Meh, just a silly example. It's a fascinating subplot.. It's like if p99 was a TV Show the editors would do all the actual dragon killing in a one min montage at the end of the episode, because if you were trying to film it Conan The Barbarian style, everyone would focus on the squabbling of the diff sets of 'heroes' competing to slay the gods!... Translation : Lawyerquest, the Reality TV of p99, would overtake the actual 'adventure' just like Agnar's "Kronos and Kash Homiez!" would be far more exciting than watching 75% of the server level in Upper/Lower Guk and Sol A/B.

Agnar is a progression server on live. It is not even trying to appeal to the p99 crowd in its entirety. It is not classic and has put as little effort into 'classic whitewashing' as humanly possible. And the ppl that wanted it, got it, which is why this thread is the same half dozen angry blowhards quibbling back and forth, like morning talk show political radio shows. :)

[Beastagoog]

/pickzone is ridiculous that it doesnt put you at zone in. Been using the main instances and running down to where i need to be, then /pick, without any fight cuz everything is down in the main instances.

Lol me too.

Great minds think alike ;)

[Beastagoog]

I have to say, having the lfg and group looking for players system actually working is nice.

Yes. As a tank I get a group within 5 mins most of the time. Lack of tanks atm.

I solely level my druid in the static group now because they are harder to get groups on.

[welly321]

/pickzone is ridiculous that it doesnt put you at zone in. Been using the main instances and running down to where i need to be, then /pick, without any fight cuz everything is down in the main instances.

So glad I decided not to play on this server

[Lhancelot]

So glad I decided not to play on this server

It was fun for about 4 days when everything was starting and new, everyone grouping and all the lively activity was nice too.

The ruination of so many things I like on the old game did it in for me though.

Some of the QOL features are nice.

The "updated" zones and alterations to the actual artwork of the original game just irked me too much to continue on Agnarr.

[Valakut]

impossible to post a short substantive piece on why one server is better than another. they all have their strengths and weaknesses. as someone who thought shards of dalaya was the best everquest server after 2004 I would advise to pick your horse for pantheon. if you think any of this eq servers will be alive in 2 years then you are max betting on a pantheon flop. the harder you hold on the faster it will slip away.

tl;dr quit playing video games and go do some mushrooms in the woods

[Bardalicious]

The economy of Agnarr is fascinating to me, like the subplot in a movie thats actually the most entertaining part to you.... Which is funny, because even as someone with a BS in Economics, i always found EC on p99 dull.. The Valueation of the krono vs platinum in a present tense and projecting it in the future is almost like playing the market or gambling system in an RPG instead of grinding monsters outside the city ad naseum.

I made the call to stop levelling entirely after scoring my 48 spec pet and just immediately farmed plat to turn into krono. Something about seeing SMRs for 3 krono where in a month they will be 10 SMRs for 1 krono makes me giggle. But the timing advantage of having something early can be good.. For example, new pets and liches for a necro would be incredibly advantageous at the time and probably worth a quick krono investment, since having the spells would net you the power to grind 3 krono tomorrow instead of 1.... etc..

Then they announced the 50% bonus weekend. And anyone who cared was 50 by Monday lol. Which totally throws the economy in flux.. Since like a SSB went from a BiS must have to so flooded on the market (think 20 lowerguk picks going at all times all week...) that the homeless were scooping water out of the town well with them by Monday. So something i was getting 1kr for on day 3 was worth pretty much 9copper on day ten... Where those 3 krono went from 1200 in value to almost 4500pp in value..

Meh, just a silly example. It's a fascinating subplot.. It's like if p99 was a TV Show the editors would do all the actual dragon killing in a one min montage at the end of the episode, because if you were trying to film it Conan The Barbarian style, everyone would focus on the squabbling of the diff sets of 'heroes' competing to slay the gods!... Translation : Lawyerquest, the Reality TV of p99, would overtake the actual 'adventure' just like Agnar's "Kronos and Kash Homiez!" would be far more exciting than watching 75% of the server level in Upper/Lower Guk and Sol A/B.

Agnar is a progression server on live. It is not even trying to appeal to the p99 crowd in its entirety. It is not classic and has put as little effort into 'classic whitewashing' as humanly possible. And the ppl that wanted it, got it, which is why this thread is the same half dozen angry blowhards quibbling back and forth, like morning talk show political radio shows. :)


Made my characters to reserve names over the weekend but didn't get to play yet due to family matters. Still torn on solo or duo boxing and what to play. Thinking Clr/War for grouping effectiveness. That or maybe mage/chanter or nec/shm. Would like a DE mask on at least 1 toon on this server. End goal is to gear out a monk or rogue though probably.

Any insider trading-style tips? Knowing that /pick doesn't send you to zone in is $$$!

[Izmael]

Have to admit, the new Freeport and commonlands are case studies illustrating the concept of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[JurisDictum]

The economy of Agnarr is fascinating to me, like the subplot in a movie thats actually the most entertaining part to you.... Which is funny, because even as someone with a BS in Economics, i always found EC on p99 dull.. The Valueation of the krono vs platinum in a present tense and projecting it in the future is almost like playing the market or gambling system in an RPG instead of grinding monsters outside the city ad naseum.

I made the call to stop levelling entirely after scoring my 48 spec pet and just immediately farmed plat to turn into krono. Something about seeing SMRs for 3 krono where in a month they will be 10 SMRs for 1 krono makes me giggle. But the timing advantage of having something early can be good.. For example, new pets and liches for a necro would be incredibly advantageous at the time and probably worth a quick krono investment, since having the spells would net you the power to grind 3 krono tomorrow instead of 1.... etc..

Then they announced the 50% bonus weekend. And anyone who cared was 50 by Monday lol. Which totally throws the economy in flux.. Since like a SSB went from a BiS must have to so flooded on the market (think 20 lowerguk picks going at all times all week...) that the homeless were scooping water out of the town well with them by Monday. So something i was getting 1kr for on day 3 was worth pretty much 9copper on day ten... Where those 3 krono went from 1200 in value to almost 4500pp in value..

Meh, just a silly example. It's a fascinating subplot.. It's like if p99 was a TV Show the editors would do all the actual dragon killing in a one min montage at the end of the episode, because if you were trying to film it Conan The Barbarian style, everyone would focus on the squabbling of the diff sets of 'heroes' competing to slay the gods!... Translation : Lawyerquest, the Reality TV of p99, would overtake the actual 'adventure' just like Agnar's "Kronos and Kash Homiez!" would be far more exciting than watching 75% of the server level in Upper/Lower Guk and Sol A/B.

Agnar is a progression server on live. It is not even trying to appeal to the p99 crowd in its entirety. It is not classic and has put as little effort into 'classic whitewashing' as humanly possible. And the ppl that wanted it, got it, which is why this thread is the same half dozen angry blowhards quibbling back and forth, like morning talk show political radio shows. :)

I have a very similar situation myself. I'm a 49 necromancer as of just now, and I've been using him the past day or so exclusively to farm Platinum of Cyclops in OoT. You can buy a Krono for about 1k as of now (maybe more like 1.1k). So basically you can turn a good 3k plat from farming Cyclops into 3 krono that will almost certainly be worth x10 that amount eventually.

Krono is basically the T-Bill of Everquest on Agnarr ATM. Unless the whole god damn thing falls apart, the cost of Krono will rise. But it will be a slow curve, unlike what others are saying.

It might not be classic, but its fun to be able to have such a concrete valuation of your everquest wealth as Krono.

[JurisDictum]

Have to admit, the new Freeport and commonlands are case studies illustrating the concept of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

The only part of the game that is truly stupid, is the remake of Commonlands, Lavastorm, and Freeport. Ro is not that bad, but some throw that in the list too. But is just an asthetic.

I came here for the PoP and Cats on the Moon anyway. p99 gave me the classic experience already.

[Beastagoog]

The only part of the game that is truly stupid, is the remake of Commonlands, Lavastorm, and Freeport. Ro is not that bad, but some throw that in the list too. But is just an asthetic.

I came here for the PoP and Cats on the Moon anyway. p99 gave me the classic experience already.

Another good comment.
Pretty much what is the appeal of Agnarr is Pop and Luclin lock.

Also heard you can do NToV with 3-4 groups once geared so you dont need to sit in a Discord/Teamspeak with drugged out fucks splurting whatever comes to their mind. (think red99).

[Uuruk]

Another good comment.
Pretty much what is the appeal of Agnarr is Pop and Luclin lock.

Also heard you can do NToV with 3-4 groups once geared so you dont need to sit in a Discord/Teamspeak with drugged out fucks splurting whatever comes to their mind. (think red99).

Do you think people will berg out over monster summoning spells in ToV?

[nilzark]

After playing P99 for many years - never got very far because casual scum I am. I have had my fix. EQ Live is ok for casual scum. Stick with P99 for hard-core mode. I like P99 for grouping - EQ Live for soloing or playing with my kids.

tl:dr P99 and EQ Live both have their goods and bads.

[Uuruk]

After playing P99 for many years - never got very far because casual scum I am. I have had my fix. EQ Live is ok for casual scum. Stick with P99 for hard-core mode. I like P99 for grouping - EQ Live for soloing or playing with my kids.

tl:dr P99 and EQ Live both have their goods and bads.

Eqlive is more cutt throat than p99

[nilzark]

Yea maybe. I did try to solo nagafen's lair and got my ass handed to me. That was refreshing and felt classic.

[Lune]

PK'd somebody today

Some enchanter tried to steal my group's ghoul cavalier so I cancel magicked his dar and he died

The total lack of customer service on behalf of DBG sucks hard but the wild west aspect does have its moments.