Dial - a - Port Clean Up effort

[bclements87]

:rolleyes: Okay lets break this down.
*Tip is required
*Long trip how much you paying
*I'm busy how much you paying
*That tip sucked
*Thanks for ripping me off
*Where is my tip
*That cost extra
*Can't ignore you when their tag is up.

All things by guild rules that are not aloud to be said. Never being able to have a set price its all about how much you want to tip. Any member of dial being doing any of them things can be report to an officer and kicked from guild.

Also here is their guild website. I'm sure its hard to keep up with who is a douche bag in this guild for the leadership due to the many people invited daily. I promise you that they are breaking rules when they do this.
-Disclaimer-
*Not a member of DaP anymore only when i was a baby druid.
*GUILD MASTER don't put up with peoples stupid b/s
*Not at all endorsed by anyone form DaP just a public service message.
*Always have proof like a screen shot or something to that nature.

[Bubbles]

I have never had an issue giving plat to dial a port member and them porting me.

Its the most simple system you would ever encounter.

If you can't feasibly afford a port, you aren't entitled to a service.

[Baler]

disband Dial a Port
Send tells to any of the other druids or wizards online
???
profit

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DaP was a good idea with bad execution.

[Dronuspk]

DAP is terrible. Not every member is shit, but enough of them to warrant hate.

[Kesselring]

I dont see what people are posting about dial a port for. What did they do now? Everyone talks shit who cares. I've never had a problem with them. People really need to level up their 'Not give a shit' level.

[shtampy]

I think it has to do with how DaP used to be better, and members followed the rules - didn't ask for tips or act like bitches if they didn't 'get enough' and only had their tag up if they were free to port instantly, not with a wait list 5 people deep and then making you wait on mana when they finally get to you.

In theory DaP is great, but in practice shit members are giving it a shit name.

[Cecily]

Sig

[Lhancelot]

:rolleyes: Okay lets break this down.
*Tip is required
*Long trip how much you paying
*I'm busy how much you paying
*That tip sucked
*Thanks for ripping me off
*Where is my tip
*That cost extra
*Can't ignore you when their tag is up.

All things by guild rules that are not aloud to be said. Never being able to have a set price its all about how much you want to tip. Any member of dial being doing any of them things can be report to an officer and kicked from guild.

Also here is their guild website. I'm sure its hard to keep up with who is a douche bag in this guild for the leadership due to the many people invited daily. I promise you that they are breaking rules when they do this.
-Disclaimer-
*Not a member of DaP anymore only when i was a baby druid.
*GUILD MASTER don't put up with peoples stupid b/s
*Not at all endorsed by anyone form DaP just a public service message.
*Always have proof like a screen shot or something to that nature.

Bad porters is serious business. :rolleyes:

If I hate McDonalds because they serve extra greasy food that I despise, I stay away from McDonalds. I don't waste my time writing my feels out proclaiming how much I hate McDonalds and why McDonalds is so awful and what everyone needs to do when they have a bad experience at McDonalds. Stop going to McDonalds if it's so bad.

Honestly anyone that gets a SS of a bad interaction with a porter because the porter said "your tip was shit" should grow some thicker skin.

Btw, only time I have ever seen a porter ask about their tip is when /split was used. Sometimes this goes unnoticed and the porter may have missed it. Really this isn't
a big deal.

The porters that are jerks are not jerks because they are in DaP, if they were unguided they would be just the same and behave no differently.

I do agree that DaP openly recruits too easily though. I think they should have a little more discretion when it comes to who they invite.

I also don't understand why they allow non-porting classes or low level wizards/Druids in the guild when it is supposed to be a porting guild. The problem is some of these non-porting classes will actually have their tags up sometimes and this can add some confusion to people in a hurry who simply want to find a name and send a tell for a fast port.

I also have seen where some of the newer porters have inappropriate advertisements up, and I have even sent tells to them telling them they need to have their guild advertised in their message, as per their own guilds rules. Obviously whoever zerg invited them did not explain the very basic guild rules to them.

Anyway, it's not a perfect guild, but I personally have never had a bad experience with any of their porters, and I have gotten dozens of free ports via CRs or moving a brand new toon to a new area in Norrath.

Many of them do it quite happily, for instance Asmodean has helped me twice on brand new toons for free, porting them from Gfay to WC. The guy was polite and showed no indication of annoyance I had nothing to give him for his help.

[Tru]

New back in Norrath am I and /who all dial is my friend. Never had a problem; grateful to be able to tap into DaP instead of bugging random dru and wiz throughout the land. Thanks for guild; random crankiness (have Not encountered any) would be no surprise and who cares.

[Jimwise]

I have used DaP many many times and have never had any problem with them.

[Expediency]

Dap should go on strike for a week. People take it for granted

[NegaStoat]

I agree with the going on strike idea but scabs and alts would rise to the occasion. Personally, I've never had an issue with DaP although I use boats and the Firepot room far more than a druid port. Every time I have used a teleport though, I cough up 1pp/level with a 50pp cap or a 25pp minimum if the character is >25. They're out to make a profit, I'm out to save time, and I have a farming character.

[Jimjam]

I think to often have problems with Dial a Port, you are either using them very frequently (so thru sheer numbers you are going to find a few bad eggs) or you have to look at the common denominator that isn't Dial a Port.

I think I've caused them more problems than they've caused me!

[Whirled]

Dap should go on strike for a week. People take it for granted

^This is a good idea. Probably better to go the full march and shut servers down for 1 week, 1 month, or whatever length of time, for the same reasoning.

[Lhancelot]

The worst I have had happen is either blatantly ignored even though their tag is up, or a rather curt "I am too busy" when I have asked for a free port on a brand new alt. I don't feel entitled here though. I simply send tell to another of their members and every time, I have found one willing to port me for FREE.

I have never had a DAP member be rude, obnoxious, or asinine.

I think people also forget that sometimes these guys literally have 4-10 tells coming in, guild chat running, questions about possible ports, etc., so when they get to you to port you, often times they are responding and trying to keep your port in mind as well as others who need a port.

They might not be overly friednly or talkative but it's not because they are rude. It's because they are simply in multi-communications with people other than you.

I think people offended by not having a friendly porter simply lack the empathy to understand that there's more going on than just them and their personal interactions with the porter.

[Ravager]

People are saying that DaP is the reason we can't bind at Firepots any more and we won't be getting Luclin or PoP because the Nexus and Books would kill their cartel. This server has been corrupted by DaP at the highest levels.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Dap should go on strike for life

[Lhancelot]

People are saying that DaP is the reason we can't bind at Firepots any more and we won't be getting Luclin or PoP because the Nexus and Books would kill their cartel. This server has been corrupted by DaP at the highest levels.

After reading this, I have thought of some other ways DaP could be harming the server's raid scene.

Obviously when the socks need to be ported en masse, they always call on DaP.

Thanks to DaP always being on stand by, this makes mobilizing a raid force even easier granting rich socks even more opportunity to keep the spawning raid mobs on lock down.

Poorer socks that can't afford DaP's immense tip charges are forced to sit and watch the rich socks port nearly instantly to any raid location DaP has to offer.

Totally unfair!

[maskedmelonpai]

all these arbitrary "reasonable" donations are super silly ^^ if you feel bad for offering less than you "think" is "right" you dumb and if you get rustled that someone offer less than what you "think" is "right" you dumb too. there a super simple solution if someone unhappy with an offer and nobody need be upset. it called saying, "no." don't have to be a turd about neither. just ask if it enough and if not, thank them for they time. conversely if you a porter, just decline and thank them for considering you. it not all that hard and don't have to be all "omgosh that person such "D!"" kinda thing. jus communicate and be friendly with one another ^^

[Jaxon]

People are saying that DaP is the reason we can't bind at Firepots any more and we won't be getting Luclin or PoP because the Nexus and Books would kill their cartel. This server has been corrupted by DaP at the highest levels.

You can still bind at firepots but you have to compensate DaP for the lost business and pay them a large weekly fee. Also they don't let just anyone do it; you need references, proof of credit and someone to give you a personal introduction to Tupakk. You would know this if you were more in the know, but you're not so I can't really say any more about it.

[Baler]

Dap should go on strike for a week. People take it for granted

LMFAO, please do this DaP.

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I'll made a video every day, every hour of those days finding a druid or wizard to port me where ever I want.

It's just someone porting, it's not like they're filling a role in a raid. a severely mentally handicapped person could do it for goodness sake.

druids are a dime a dozen. wizards are a bit more rare but there are enough.

[Baler]

The problem is that DaP leadership has zero control over it's members. There is nothing to keep their members in line or held to a standard of excellence. It's just a pub nub guild of porters who are trying to make plat off other people's laziness.

So even if they did strike,. some of their members would still port people. It's not like they have a code of honor or ethics.

[indiscriminate_hater]

druids are a dime a dozen. wizards are a bit more rare but there are enough.

[Lhancelot]

all these arbitrary "reasonable" donations are super silly ^^ if you feel bad for offering less than you "think" is "right" you dumb and if you get rustled that someone offer less than what you "think" is "right" you dumb too. there a super simple solution if someone unhappy with an offer and nobody need be upset. it called saying, "no." don't have to be a turd about neither. just ask if it enough and if not, thank them for they time. conversely if you a porter, just decline and thank them for considering you. it not all that hard and don't have to be all "omgosh that person such "D!"" kinda thing. jus communicate and be friendly with one another ^^

Yes. I have often times sent tell to a porter and I tell them up front what I am paying for a port from A to B.

Just as I tell them up front when I need a port for free, I tell them up front my lvl 1 lowbie butt is stuck in Steamfont and I would like to make my way to the FP area, please port me I have nothing to tip.

I have been blatantly ignored after such tells too, but usually they respond and even port me happily.

Asmodean, props to him he has helped me move a lowbie twice already. :)

[Lhancelot]

The problem is that DaP leadership has zero control over it's members. There is nothing to keep their members in line or held to a standard of excellence. It's just a pub nub guild of porters who are trying to make plat off other people's laziness.

So even if they did strike,. some of their members would still port people. It's not like they have a code of honor or ethics.

There's some truth to this, but you underestimate the people in the guild. There is some structure, and some higher ranked members are frequently in guild chat offering advice or instruction.

If the guild leadership told people no porting, 99% of them would abide by this. You might have one retard that decides not to listen.

People outside the guild like to say the guild is full of losers who can't do anything else but port (and barely manage that.) This is not true.

When I was in DaP one guy was a raid geared druid, who dropped tons of info on people working their epics, or who just needed info regarding other facets of the game. He wasn't the only one either.

The guild has a really strange mixture of different types of players.

Some are passing through and only want to use the DaP tag to make plats, while others end up there after raiding and simply join for the guild chat atmosphere and fun of porting people around for the hell of it.

Some people join because the guild really does have a lot of seasoned players that can supply a lot of knowledge and not just stuff about porting.

Also the chat is usually light hearted and fun, and it never revolves around raiding mobs and "competing" for raid mobs. I think a lot of people who dislike raiding or are tired of raiding join DaP with their porters.

[Dronuspk]

There's some truth to this, but you underestimate the people in the guild. There is some structure, and some higher ranked members are frequently in guild chat offering advice or instruction.

If the guild leadership told people no porting, 99% of them would abide by this. You might have one retard that decides not to listen.

People outside the guild like to say the guild is full of losers who can't do anything else but port (and barely manage that.) This is not true.

When I was in DaP one guy was a raid geared druid, who dropped tons of info on people working their epics, or who just needed info regarding other facets of the game. He wasn't the only one either.

The guild has a really strange mixture of different types of players.

Some are passing through and only want to use the DaP tag to make plats, while others end up there after raiding and simply join for the guild chat atmosphere and fun of porting people around for the hell of it.

Some people join because the guild really does have a lot of seasoned players that can supply a lot of knowledge and not just stuff about porting.

Also the chat is usually light hearted and fun, and it never revolves around raiding mobs and "competing" for raid mobs. I think a lot of people who dislike raiding or are tired of raiding join DaP with their porters.

Lmao wow. Lhancelot you sure do devote a lot of time writing up novels about how you enjoy DAP's collective dicks in your mouth, tbh.

[Lhancelot]

Lmao wow. Lhancelot you sure do devote a lot of time writing up novels about how you enjoy DAP's collective dicks in your mouth, tbh.

I been in the guild and they have some very good people in it. I like to add some objectivity to the topic. tbh.

[dafier]

Just wipe the server clean. That will fix stupid ass DaP!

[FreshPrinceOfP99]

Asmodean is the coolest mofo wizard in DaP.

[Lhancelot]

Asmodean is the coolest mofo wizard in DaP.

I agree that's why I had to mention him a couple times earlier.

Long live DaP!

[Gumbo]

Just wipe the server clean. That will fix stupid ass DaP!

This is a thread about DAP and not wiping the server clean.

Go to the other thread if you want to whine and cry about wiping the server clean!

[jackd104]

I have used DaP many many times and have never had any problem with them.


Ditto. Used at least 50 times. Not one bad experience.

[nectarprime]

I thought the assholes got removed, like whats his name that ported a noob to Iceclad because he didn't magically know the going rate for ports?

[jakerees]

I thought the assholes got removed, like whats his name that ported a noob to Iceclad because he didn't magically know the going rate for ports?

That's standard operating procedure for DaP though, they only boot people for doing that when people actually call them out on it, but most of the time newer toons who may not give up a lot for ports don't think to come here and talk about it happening to them.

[jackd104]

I like Dial a Port. I've used them many times and always had good experiences. But I do think there are some issues and reasons why conflicts arise that DaP may be able to improve with rethinking pricing structure.
DaP serves two different customer bases - established players with plenty of PP, and newer players who are poor. If you have a tipping model, you must be willing to accept a big different in tips between these two customers. Also, the 1pp per level rule does not apply well to the new player, as PP gain is not linear. 30PP is a LOT more money to a lvl 30 than 50pp is to a lvl 50.

I feel like if you have a tips only model, you should accept the shortcomings above, and accept whatever tip is given. And be understanding to the new players (remember, someday they will be rich, and they will still be your customers then, too!) Either that, or set a pricing model that is clear to everyone and charge specific rates. To not do the latter, but yet complain about the former, is not fair to your customers.

[Vandil]

Real men take the boats.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Real men take the boats.

Lol but there aren't any real men on the server

[ZiggyTheMuss]

You can still bind at firepots but you have to compensate DaP for the lost business and pay them a large weekly fee. Also they don't let just anyone do it; you need references, proof of credit and someone to give you a personal introduction to Tupakk. You would know this if you were more in the know, but you're not so I can't really say any more about it.

I like Dial a Port. I've used them many times and always had good experiences. But I do think there are some issues and reasons why conflicts arise that DaP may be able to improve with rethinking pricing structure.
DaP serves two different customer bases - established players with plenty of PP, and newer players who are poor. If you have a tipping model, you must be willing to accept a big different in tips between these two customers. Also, the 1pp per level rule does not apply well to the new player, as PP gain is not linear. 30PP is a LOT more money to a lvl 30 than 50pp is to a lvl 50.

I feel like if you have a tips only model, you should accept the shortcomings above, and accept whatever tip is given. And be understanding to the new players (remember, someday they will be rich, and they will still be your customers then, too!) Either that, or set a pricing model that is clear to everyone and charge specific rates. To not do the latter, but yet complain about the former, is not fair to your customers.

This.

When I started I would use DaP sparingly as I could not afford to port everywhere constantly. I believe even at level 10ish I would tip 30 plat just because I remember that being pretty standard on live.

If DaP had set prices specified they could avoid all this shit they are getting. It is dishonest to say "donations accepted" and then refuse to port the person/blacklist them afterwards if their donation didn't meet the minimum amount the porter actually had in mind.

DaP is what it is though. You invite any porter with a pulse and you are bound to get a LOT of bad seeds.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Whoa I don't know how the first quote in my post got there, just meant to quote the second one!

[aaezil]

Nobody in DAP has ever asked me how much I'm going to tip or demanded payment. Always been good service. Prob 100+ ports so far from them.

If somebody countered my polite question about a port with How much u payin? i would just put them on ignore and ask someone else...

(i usually tip 40-60pp+ depending on location)

[Ravendawn]

When I first played on p99th there was no DaP. After returning I have had nothing but great experience from them and a couple are on my friends list from being so awesome. I've yet to have something but an awesome experience. I say keep it up.

[Ael]

I have nothing bad whatsoever to say about dial a port. They have been very helpful to me even as a noob with little to no plats, declining what meager tips i offered them. A wizard even came and rescued my baby barb shaman after she got dragged to kunark and stranded there with nothing but one plat and an iksar targ shield to her name.

Another time, a friendly Dial a port wizard came and helped safely escort a level 4 erudite i was helping with a CR in the gorge get safely to freeport free of charge. Now that i am in mid levels, i am tipping appropriate to my level and funds (or trying to) and consider ports a luxury and a convenience. Yes, they are expensive, but my time is valuable and so is the person's who is porting me.

I usually travel by foot and use boats and only request ports when its important that i get to a location quickly. I think if more ppl used common sense and didnt feel entitled to free ports anytime they please, just b/c because they are noobs, alts or otherwise, there would be less issue. I for one would be very bummed as a melee if DAP did not exist or went on strike. Please do not do that. And i do plan on tipping more, as i acquiremore plats in gratitide for the help that was freely given to me when i had little to no plats.

[Vandil]

Lol but there aren't any real men on the server

I guess we're all electrons online.

My play style is a bit different. I play a Dark Elf Shadowknight who solos almost exclusively, and has no intentions to raid. When I play, it's a combination of fun and relaxation. I'll hop on the boat(s) to from Antonica to Kunark and drink an adult beverage and mellow out.

[Zekayy]

Dont care

[meadtj]

Half of DaP has mains in every one of your guilds. Its basically a guild of alts

What does that mean? Thats right...say it with me boys...

WE ARE NEGAN

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[fastboy21]

DAP always been good to me.

Not sure why so many folks seem to have issues. Fake news?

[Crawdad]

Before DaP:
/who all druid 29 49
/tell randomdruid00: Porting? -> "Sorry not right now"
/tell randomdruid01: Porting? -> "Sorry not right now"
/tell randomdruid02: Porting? -> "Sorry not right now"
/tell randomdruid03: Porting? -> "Sorry not right now"
etc

After DaP:
/who all dial
/tell DaP'er00: Porting? -> "Sure, one minute" or "I can't, but I just asked guildchat for someone to come get you"

Seems like an easy choice.

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Also, I get a kick out of people saying we have some sort of guild dialogue about who to port first or some kind of guild-wide retribution thing going on. Guildchat is made up of at most four things: 1) Druid leveling banter 2) Requesting a pick-up/port for someone you can't get 3) Bragging/complaining about port payments 4) government/alien/wolfman-hybrid conspiracy theories.

[Lhancelot]

4) government/alien/wolfman-hybrid conspiracy theories.

rofl I know exactly who you talking about. :D

[Muggens]

Agenda driven threads? Have yet to see a competitor show up.
Will continue to use DaP, also remember Tupakk helping random folks getting Seb keyed a while back.

[Tru]

Oooh. Based on #4 it's time for me to level up my little druid and join the guild!