Leashing comes to p99.

[Nibblewitz]

Haynar: Added "lazy aggro" behavior for NPCs. If they get too far from their target, they will no longer chase.

Try Phinigel

[Gimp]

Haynar: Added "lazy aggro" behavior for NPCs. If they get too far from their target, they will no longer chase.

Try Phinigel

ToV is about to be the biggest shitshow

[khanable]

Phinigel also has lazy aggro tho

[Nibblewitz]

Phinigel also has lazy aggro tho

Indeed, they're practically the same game now; Phinigel has much more content tho.

[khanable]

Consider red

An autist will sneakfuck you to death before the mob stops chasing

Problem solved

[Baler]

Getting killed by an autist. What does that say about you? lol

[khanable]

I mean if you're on red you're already somewhere on the spectrum

If that answers your question

[burkemi5]

I'm more excited to see how the sneak/ FD nerf plays out. About time!

[Phantasm]

I don't think its a nerf if the mechanic is broken? Isn't it a fix then? Either way, time for people to learn how to monk again. WTS Resurrection 100p

[dafier]

FTE! ... oh, nvm

[kotton05]

It's not a nerf

[arsenalpow]

Technically it is compared to how things operated pre-patch.

[Erati]

has anyone tested the 10 min de-aggro if you are within chase distance or the 30 sec de-aggro when you leave distance ?

[skarlorn]

Haynar: Added "lazy aggro" behavior for NPCs. If they get too far from their target, they will no longer chase.

Try Phinigel

phinigel is not a place you wanna be seen.

[Papa]

is this a classic change or not, which is the only thing that matters

[nyclin]

is this a classic change or not, which is the only thing that matters

depends on which 17 year old internet forums posts you look at, but evidence seems to point towards it being A Thing, details are pretty fuzzy though so in all likelihood we have a very non-classic implementation of the mechanic

[Izmael]

It breaks a fundamental attribute of classic EQ and makes me very sad.

[bigjerry]

the mechanic existed on live in era but it was restricted to specific zones -- mostly large outdoor kunark zones.

It may actually have been an unintended thing resulting from a pathing issue, as when the mobs hit leash distance they would sprint off at full speed into the ether, not return to patrol spot. Definitely not a remotely classic implementation if it works in every zone and as described.

[khanable]

It breaks a fundamental attribute of classic EQ and makes me very sad.

This poster is retarded please ignore him

[Nibblewitz]

Good point! Let's focus on the emergent gameplay of leashing of dragons.

(Try Phinigel)

[Izmael]

This poster is retarded please ignore him

You seem to get mad easily on the internets.

[bigjerry]

You seem to get mad easily on the internets.

mad

[Izmael]

mad

Who ar.. nevermind,

woh r u

[bigjerry]

Who ar.. nevermind,

woh r u

im an exponent your a number less than 1

[Pokesan]

Idk why you nerds are surprised. This server is further from classic than live

this little fellow is permarustled from his ban 3 years ago

[Izmael]

im an exponent your a number less than 1

Lol... what?

You're literally a waste of bandwidth and server resources.

[sirelothar]

Just chiming in to say hello from Bastion of Thunder (A cool zone where the mighty Agnarr resides, something P99 players just wouldn't understand!!)

http://i.imgur.com/DtSNB2e.jpg

[Tankdan]

Does this mean NTOV dragons will take longer to clear?

If so I'm all for it, might make some people rethink life decisions and such.

[bigjerry]

Lol... what?

You're literally a waste of bandwidth and server resources.

every time u reply to me u continue approach to limit of zero

[Nibblewitz]

I remember my first year of calculus...

[bigjerry]

I remember my first year of calculus...

integrate this quart of nut into ur digestive tract four eyes

[Legday]

Bye casuals in NToV.

We hardly knew ye.

[Nibblewitz]

Whoa, equalize your hormones and slink back to off-topic. This thread is about everqueste.

[dafier]

Just chiming in to say hello from Bastion of Thunder (A cool zone where the mighty Agnarr resides, something P99 players just wouldn't understand!!)

http://i.imgur.com/DtSNB2e.jpg

Are mages able to charm those Lesser elements, or did they nerf it already?

[Erati]

Are mages able to charm those Lesser elements, or did they nerf it already?

you need the lvl 6whatever charm spell to charm them.

[dafier]

you need the lvl 6whatever charm spell to charm them.

Oh I know. But during live (WAY back in the day) I would go in there and solo everything with those. I don't recall the time frame but they nerfed it. That level 65 or 64 charm was only for lvl 59 or less elementals after the nerf. The nerf was stupid.

[skarlorn]

This thread is about everqueste.

best typo i've ever seen u make my whole life

[Nibblewitz]

I've learned that if there is no typo, it falls on deaf, tranny ears.

[Daldaen]

Are mages able to charm those Lesser elements, or did they nerf it already?

The 65 magician spell lets them charm up to level 60 Elementals. Each of the wings has two Elemental models. Lessers are 46 and can be dire charmed, normals are level 60.

So magicians can charm the normal Elementals, weaponize them, burnout and frenzied burnout them and they plow through most content.

Basically though that spell was designed exclusively for BoT. Not many other zones with 60 or lower summoned mobs.

[dafier]

HERP DLKSDRJEI FSLKDJIIII NOS>A LIK DIK

[dafier]

OK cool. That's what I was talking about. I would charm the norms near where the names spawn and 'plow' as you put it through everything including the nameds. Ez pz

[GinnasP99]

HERP DLKSDRJEI FSLKDJIIII NOS>A LIK DIK

i know what you mean

[Gimp]

Bye casuals in NToV.

We hardly knew ye.

Is it that bad?

[Legday]

Is it that bad?

Probably not. Just trying to Rustle folks.

I haven't even been on, but as I understand it there is essentially no way to perform train ups and pulls the way that we were all doing them without far more bodies being well coordinated with one another. Strats still being worked on.

[maskedmelon]

Yeah, I don't see how this is bad for casuals. I'm sure A/A will adapt wITB a new strat, but until then, this basically forces some clearing. More of a boon for casuals until new start is adopted.

[Gimp]

Probably not. Just trying to Rustle folks.

I haven't even been on, but as I understand it there is essentially no way to perform train ups and pulls the way that we were all doing them without far more bodies being well coordinated with one another. Strats still being worked on.

I imagined it would be a mess. Probably massive teams of monks and bards training and countertraining while trying to single out the dragon.

Means "casual" guilds will have to resort to attempting to clear up to mobs if they score a FTE. Maybe coth the raid to trips or something. That will go swimmingly, I'm sure.

[Gimp]

Yeah, I don't see how this is bad for casuals. I'm sure A/A will adapt wITB a new strat, but until then, this basically forces some clearing. More of a boon for casuals until new start is adopted.

A/A won't clear to mobs, can guarantee that.

Here's the issue that will come:

All mobs in window, some casual guild scores like a Dagarn or something else low on the A/A priority list. While they're clearing, another dragon pops. The racers train the fuck out of clearing guild and it just becomes a huge fucking mess, like when BDA was trying to kill Eashen (I think) first part of Velious and they got run the fuck over.

[Pokesan]

don't train people its against the rules

[Nibblewitz]

inb4 A/A train leashes onto a guild clearing north

[Kesselring]

is this a classic change or not, which is the only thing that matters

I don't think it happened til luclin tbh. I seem to remember training spectres and tangrin and all sorts of mobs on noobies back in the day and they never reset as long as I was running around. Then in luclin I remember kiting some mobs in the grey and eventually they would reset. I highly doubt it happened before luclin but I don't exactly have the best memory in the world either, its a good memory, but not best.

[maskedmelon]

I don't think it happened til luclin tbh. I seem to remember training spectres and tangrin and all sorts of mobs on noobies back in the day and they never reset as long as I was running around. Then in luclin I remember kiting some mobs in the grey and eventually they would reset. I highly doubt it happened before luclin but I don't exactly have the best memory in the world either, its a good memory, but not best.

my memory is terrible. nevertheless I concur with this less than stellar memory. don't think it was classic ^^

[Ravager]

Would have been more fun if they ninja-patched this. Missed opportunity, Haynar.

[khanable]

Yes, it is classic. I don't remember it but it certainly appears to have been classic given the posts from the time period about it.

[Danth]

my memory is terrible. nevertheless I concur with this less than stellar memory. don't think it was classic ^^

It's not strictly a classic feature; it's a Kunark feature. I cannot recollect whether it was retroactively applied to old-world zones since, being a Paladin, outrunning trains wasn't my thing.


Danth

[bigjerry]

It's not strictly a classic feature; it's a Kunark feature. I cannot recollect whether it was retroactively applied to old-world zones since, being a Paladin, outrunning trains wasn't my thing.


Danth

didn't apply retroactively.

in fact, I don't think it applied in velious zones.

[Lazie]

I don't think it happened til luclin tbh. I seem to remember training spectres and tangrin and all sorts of mobs on noobies back in the day and they never reset as long as I was running around. Then in luclin I remember kiting some mobs in the grey and eventually they would reset. I highly doubt it happened before luclin but I don't exactly have the best memory in the world either, its a good memory, but not best.

Leash never happened in classic zones is why you remember the Spectres. In Kunark and Velious they did.

[Lazie]

didn't apply retroactively.

in fact, I don't think it applied in velious zones.

Actually Velious expanded the leash range. In Kunark it was just 200.

[bigjerry]

Actually Velious expanded the leash range. In Kunark it was just 200.

I could buy it -- my real point is that it was applied differently across different zones (not as a universal change)

[Lazie]

You guys are lucky Mobs not loitering isn't getting added to ToV. Makes the zone funner and a bit more of a challenge to split. But for what you guys do it would make a few things a pain.

[Daldaen]

I could buy it -- my real point is that it was applied differently across different zones (not as a universal change)

Correct. But they went with a more generalized fix for the time being until someone else wants to go through and figure out what the exact distances are per zone (if anyone ever wants to do this).

Need to get the base work in before you fine tune it.

[Skew]

A/A won't clear to mobs, can guarantee that.

Here's the issue that will come:

All mobs in window, some casual guild scores like a Dagarn or something else low on the A/A priority list. While they're clearing, another dragon pops. The racers train the fuck out of clearing guild and it just becomes a huge fucking mess, like when BDA was trying to kill Eashen (I think) first part of Velious and they got run the fuck over.

You mean when BDA got in over their heads and trained 3 other guilds repeatedly at Eashan steps.

[Freakish]

I do not miss those steps. Or the hall right next to ikitair. No matter what, someone trained you.

[Haynar]

don't train people its against the rules

You guys are lucky Mobs not loitering isn't getting added to ToV. Makes the zone funner and a bit more of a challenge to split. But for what you guys do it would make a few things a pain.

No loitering in ToV?

Because I am changing loitering mechanics.

H

[Sallan]

Classic ntov crawl days are coming. Bring back the arry pit pulls :)

[Lazie]

No loitering in ToV?

Because I am changing loitering mechanics.

H

I can confirm when it was put in because there just aren't that many sources for loitering. I know they didn't Loiter in Luclin and PoP.

[Lazie]

can't* ^^

[Kawazu]

Who ar.. nevermind,

woh r u

im an exponent your a number less than 1

Literally destroyed.

[Zekayy]

You all act like this is something new lol, they had this mechanic on live nothing new. although this will make things a clusterfuck now. esp for guilds like Casual shit Guild. they will clear and runners will run and they will loose and complain some moar qq less more pew pew.

[kotton05]

That's assuming it isn't going to change. Trust me it will change.

Can you imagine clearing for 3 hours to kill 1 mob each ntov pop. Hello rotations imo

[Dolalin]

You all act like this is something new lol, they had this mechanic on live nothing new. although this will make things a clusterfuck now. esp for guilds like Casual shit Guild. they will clear and runners will run and they will loose and complain some moar qq less more pew pew.

Have you considered a mind enema?

[Ravager]

That's assuming it isn't going to change. Trust me it will change.

Can you imagine clearing for 3 hours to kill 1 mob each ntov pop. Hello rotations imo

Oh noes! No more logging in for five minutes for loot pinatas? What'll you do now that you have to play a video game?

[Swish]

Oh noes! No more logging in for five minutes for loot pinatas? What'll you do now that you have to play a video game?

Weren't you in the 80-90 man BDA Trakanon/VS/etc raids where you zerged stuff down in 5 seconds? Just checking.

[khanable]

I do not miss those steps. Or the hall right next to ikitair. No matter what, someone trained you.

place is a death trap

WIHVURNS

[Ravager]

Nope. 70 was the most there ever was, and that was on a rotation, during a prime time spawn, so yeah, turn out will be high to kill the one raid mob in those zones. Then after the loot pinatas, we'd go raid planes for several hours, since playing the game is fun. Not that you care about facts, you just like to stalk me.

[Swish]

Nope. 70 was the most there ever was, and that was on a rotation, during a prime time spawn, so yeah, turn out will be high to kill the one raid mob in those zones.

That isn't true, or you're just misinformed because you weren't there when BDA had over 80 at the zone in for a Trakanon that was at the end of a variance window.

I think that was the same Trakanon where everyone crowded around it at the end and someone said in guild chat "dont forget to take a screenshot for the website!" :o

[derpcake]

That's assuming it isn't going to change. Trust me it will change.

Can you imagine clearing for 3 hours to kill 1 mob each ntov pop. Hello rotations imo

can you imagine doing Ntov like it was done in classic?

i guess not

[NecroP99]

Weren't you in the 80-90 man BDA Trakanon/VS/etc raids where you zerged stuff down in 5 seconds? Just checking.

My first P99 raid was a Dracohlie in PoF (back when he had even sh!ttier loot) and there were 300+ people in Ferrot waiting for him to spawn because nothing else was in window. 300 people waiting for a Dracohile to spawn on a Tuesday night. The silver lining was I finally got Bro Z dead

[Ravager]

Swish lies, can't back up lies. Still obsessed with BDA. Nothing new.

[Erati]

what is loitering ?

[Muggens]

what is loitering ?

Just hanging around kicking dirt outside the liquor store

[kotton05]

what is loitering ?

Going all jay and silent monk

[Papa]

Weren't you in the 80-90 man BDA Trakanon/VS/etc raids where you zerged stuff down in 5 seconds? Just checking.

thread has nothing to do with bda

posts about bda

:o

[Papa]

totally mind-cucked by bda

[Mead]

Are you obsessed with saying I'm obsessed with BDA?

That isn't true, or you're just misinformed because you weren't there when BDA had over 80 at the zone in for a Trakanon that was at the end of a variance window.

[arsenalpow]

Consider red guys

http://i.imgur.com/Wi9WZxY.jpg

[AshurFoH]

Just chiming in to say hello from Bastion of Thunder (A cool zone where the mighty Agnarr resides, something P99 players just wouldn't understand!!)

http://i.imgur.com/DtSNB2e.jpg

On Live we killed Karana after we saved him. Tell Agnarr to suck it.

[Mead]

good god what did BDA do to swish??????????

That's the million dollar question lol. They touched him in places he had never been touched before.

[bigjerry]

bothunder has a dope soundtrack tho

[arsenalpow]

I'm pretty sure I somehow broke my music permanently. I tried turning it on the other day and got nothing. Apparently HoH has some door chimes.