Naturia <Just a Phase>

[Mizard]

Naturia purposely trained me in Velks on Thanksgiving day, causing me to die and lose my level. Now, every time I see him I /rude him and he calls me a fag. It's like a permanent reminder that people can do evil things on P99 and walk freely among our society with zero consequences. I petitioned what he did to the P99 Staff but nothing happened. Without video evidence, nothing can be done, even though my screenshots clearly show his intentions (via tell).

Norrath is the new Russia, where every player needs a dash cam to prove what happened. Anyway, I want to let you all know what kind of person Naturia can be...and yes, when he trained me I actually got the extra mobs under control, but then charm broke at the same time and I died. This wouldn't have happened if he didn't introduce a train. Velks is a pretty easy zone, especially for chanters at the frenzy camp.

I really hate Naturia. It sucks to continuously run into this guy everywhere I go.

http://i.imgur.com/bkJ4QUu.jpg (http://imgur.com/bkJ4QUu)

http://i.imgur.com/UDtgoKT.jpg (http://imgur.com/UDtgoKT)

[burkemi5]

train him back!

[Swish]

TIL training is legal as long as the person you train isnt running fraps

Also I hear <Clue> are scouting him for their guild following this poat ;)

[FatMice]

Frenzy is two camps. Top and Bottom. I have a screenshot from a GM telling me this. Sorry Rilex =/

[FatMice]

It doesn't justifying training someone tho.

[Mizard]

I know Frenzy is 2 camps. If this guy wanted upper, he could have had it without even saying a word to me. All I wanted was lower, which I had until he arrived to train me because he was upset that I had the camp and he didn't.

[Whirled]

TIL training is legal as long as the person you train isnt running fraps

Also I hear <Clue> are scouting him for their guild following this poat ;)

J.a.P. has been around for years. Hard to believe someone who has played for so long could be so sloppy; unless it was on purpose. Any chance on getting the other side of the story of this ?

[Mizard]

lol

[Kindadar]

I don't get involved in RNF however, I feel the need to speak up on this. OP - stuff happens. Accidental trains happen. If you feel the need to give someone the finger every time you see them, does it make you feel better about yourself in RL? I've been trained before accidentally, and I've trained others in the same manner. Obviously what he said after wasn't the nicest thing, but time heals all wounds in most cases.

Bottom line - this was over a month ago. Get over it.

[Mizard]

I can understand if it was an accidental train, but this was obviously on purpose.

Giving him the /rude every time I see him is because I want him to know his actions are not forgotten. It doesn't change the fact that he trained me.

Posting the proof of what he did here in RnF is like a form of closure for me. At least some of the server knows who he really is, and that's all that really matters in the end.

[maskedmelon]

I would like to applaud Mizas for having the courage to come forward with his story. Not a lot to of people are willing to put themselves out there like he's done, whether it's 'cause they ashamed or afraid or just too sad to talk about it. Mizas is very clearly a strong person and I've no doubt he will rise above this misfortune. Good luck Mizas! ^^v

[derpcake]

wuldn't happen on red

no rly, wuldn't

[derpcake]

i don't know by who all but the guy that ninjaed my IGS was griefed off red

pretty funny how that works

[Sirban]

get rekt fgt

[Danth]

I have seen this type of behavior in Velks many many times.

It's fairly common for someone doing the upper frenzy to accidentally train lower. That's partly why I don't like treating them as separate camps. An Enchanter's illusion fading at an inopportune time is a fairly novel (but not unheard of) cause, but there are numerous spots on the very uppermost level where spiders tend to want to fall off, resulting in some impressive trains.

Danth

[Teako]

The server state ATM unfortunately completely blind eyes any violation that doesn't involve a 35 minute long fraps with soft R&B backdrops. It's unfortunate that it's true.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

I didn't see anything here to indicate that it was intentional training. Have you considered for even a moment OP that it is possible to accidentally train someone while at the same time being rude to them instead of unapologetic? It seems like you are using his attitude as some kind of evidence lol.

[Mizard]

How do you explain the tells he sent me then?

[nectarprime]

The few tells you posted are not proof of anything, and there seems to be some missing.

[Mizard]

So Naturia saying "Happy Thanksgiving I'm coming back and taking half your camp now" and "GM's will make you share" doesn't strike you as the type of thingsomeone who just trained you would say?

[nectarprime]

lmao that doesn't mean he trained you on purpose. His first tell says such. Why not post all the tells?

[Mizard]

Those are all the tells. I didn't need more than 2 screenshots to capture our entire conversation.

[maskedmelon]

So Naturia saying "Happy Thanksgiving I'm coming back and taking half your camp now" and "GM's will make you share" doesn't strike you as the type of thingsomeone who just trained you would say?

Tbh it could just be a snooty reply if you were being nasty to him. Most people don't like being wrong and many do not respond well to criticism, ESPECIALLY if it was an accident. Most of those with any sort of confidence will just reply with a FUK U, like that, but that was more polite and dismissive. 10/10 response if you started off being a turd :/

[Mizard]

Nah, all I did was send him a tell that said 'camped' and then he trained me. That's not a 'turd' or 'snooty' response at all.

The people on this forum who are defending Naturia are the same people who think training players is okay. I'll be recording video from now on so I can do my part to rid this server of scumbags like Naturia.

[Phantasm]

Let it go. Let Cazic Thule do the sorting

[Baebae]

hope OP is not a grown man. This much crying over elf world is sickening.

[Danth]

I'm strongly reminded of the time I stumbled into a high-end guild's recharge breadline and immediately found myself bombarded with aggressive tells along the lines of "go away!" and "petitioned!" and "enjoy your ban!".....for doing nothing more than walking around in the vicinity. How funny. Of course nothing came of it, but it illustrates the mindset of some folks who succumb to paranoia and always assume the worst of everyone. I shrugged my case off as dorks being dorks and went on with my business, but some folks might not feel like shrugging it off. Some folks might decide to tweak a raging guy and see if he rages himself into a stroke.

Maybe, just maybe, a guide with a long queue might skip over a petition where everyone involved was behaving like a twit.

Danth

[Ravager]

I'm strongly reminded of the time I stumbled into a high-end guild's recharge breadline and immediately found myself bombarded with aggressive tells along the lines of "go away!" and "petitioned!" and "enjoy your ban!".....for doing nothing more than walking around in the vicinity. How funny. Of course nothing came of it, but it illustrates the mindset of some folks who succumb to paranoia and always assume the worst of everyone. I shrugged my case off as dorks being dorks and went on with my business, but some folks might not feel like shrugging it off. Some folks might decide to tweak a raging guy and see if he rages himself into a stroke.

Maybe, just maybe, a guide with a long queue might skip over a petition where everyone involved was behaving like a twit.

Danth
I'm reminded of this: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85776&highlight=rages+Larrikan%27s+Mask

[Zekayy]

Fraps it or it didnt happen

[Mizard]

lol

[Ravager]

you don't really need fraps. All you have to do is document every moment of your character's existence using screenshots and narrative devices...
You can only get away with that if you use mise-en-scène, contrived plot devices and some spectacles of nudery.

[Swish]

Try Phinigel, you can play Planes of Power and hide from trainers/shitscamped in instances.

and lets not forget hiding from guilds that are better than everquest

[Swish]

Someone called me out for training black reavers in City of Mist last week, except I was running for my life from that train...turned out the trainer was from <Clue> and did the usual temple jump screw up.

Best part is when people try to hide their guild names as if /guildstatus Soandso is going to stop anyone knowing. That's a hot tip for red server too, always check who they're with.

[Turdler]

lol @ this shit

[Jimjam]

Someone called me out for training black reavers in City of Mist last week, except I was running for my life from that train...turned out the trainer was from <Clue> and did the usual temple jump screw up.

Best part is when people try to hide their guild names as if /guildstatus Soandso is going to stop anyone knowing. That's a hot tip for red server too, always check who they're with.

That actually might have been me. Recently I fell off the top TLing someone and gated out myself to (try) make sure I didn't pick up any aggro or cause a train. Thought I made a clean get away, but if this event occurred when I was there I suggest it was probably me! Sorry!

[Jimjam]

I'm strongly reminded of the time I stumbled into a high-end guild's recharge breadline and immediately found myself bombarded with aggressive tells along the lines of "go away!" and "petitioned!" and "enjoy your ban!".....for doing nothing more than walking around in the vicinity. How funny. Of course nothing came of it, but it illustrates the mindset of some folks who succumb to paranoia and always assume the worst of everyone. I shrugged my case off as dorks being dorks and went on with my business, but some folks might not feel like shrugging it off. Some folks might decide to tweak a raging guy and see if he rages himself into a stroke.

Maybe, just maybe, a guide with a long queue might skip over a petition where everyone involved was behaving like a twit.

Danth

Don't sweat it. I've failed at a drop transfer before. I assumed the item just ground rotted, so made my bi annual petition to see if I could get it back. Apparently it was actually taken by another player. Once another player takes control of an item that was dropped/given to an npc/sold to vendor it becomes that new players property, so can the original owner cannot be reimbursed.

Despite being stung by this ruling I think it is fair enough. NPC vendors are not safe deposit boxes. They are there to buy and sell goods.

[Danth]

I think you misunderstood jimjam--I didn't buy their crap. I don't want their crap. I did nothing in my case except walk past the aforementioned breadline--simply being in the vicinity was sufficient to elicit threats and anger. It was simply an example of the pointless paranoia and aggression harbored by a portion of the population here which this thread happened to remind me of.

Danth

[Mizard]

If you have ever farmed in velks as a chanter you will know exactly why this thread was made. It's not out of paranoia, it's because the majority of the time I have mobs stolen from me, even if I am sitting on top of them as they spawn. There are few players in Velks who respect a camp. especially at Frenzy and BM.

Until you have experienced it first hand, you would never know what it's like.

[wwoneo]

It doesn't justifying training someone tho.

FYI I have a screenshot of a GM telling me that the camp is one single camp, if you were there first because you are at a vantage point where you can see all of the mob spawns from one location.

A camp is any location where you can see the mobs from one single vantage point.

[Mizard]

IF that's true, nobody adheres to that rule.

[wwoneo]

I don't get involved in RNF however, I feel the need to speak up on this. OP - stuff happens. Accidental trains happen. If you feel the need to give someone the finger every time you see them, does it make you feel better about yourself in RL? I've been trained before accidentally, and I've trained others in the same manner. Obviously what he said after wasn't the nicest thing, but time heals all wounds in most cases.

Bottom line - this was over a month ago. Get over it.

FYI, players of p99 are responsible for their mobs. If you train mobs, even by accident, you are supposed to die before you ever train them on someone. This has been declared many times by the staff. However, it's pretty much only enforced if there is video evidence.

[LostCause]

you petition on thanksgiving day and expected them to come running to help you... lol

come on man use that brain.

[Mizard]

I didn't expect anyone to come 'running' to help. I did have high hopes that SOMETHING would be done to Naturia.

Come on man, use that brain.

[rollin5k]

you guys should fight IRL over this. i'm imagining alot of tears and slapping/scratching

[Jimjam]

I think you misunderstood jimjam--I didn't buy their crap. I don't want their crap. I did nothing in my case except walk past the aforementioned breadline--simply being in the vicinity was sufficient to elicit threats and anger. It was simply an example of the pointless paranoia and aggression harbored by a portion of the population here which this thread happened to remind me of.

Danth

Don't worry, I understood completely. I was merely pointing out that even if you did do anything there would be little chance of retribution against you. They would have just been advised to be less careless in vendoring their important items next time (and no doubt would have brought a massive whine thread to the forums).

It is funny when you are just hanging out near some 'serious' players and they go banana thinking you are going to steal their mobs, train/wipe them, etc. Sadly, even in crushbone this happens.

[Mizard]

That's because 9 times out of 10, that's exactly what someone does. People are cautious of each other for a reason. A lot of the players on P99 have zero morals or respect for anything or anyone.

[odiecat99]

wuldn't happen on red

no rly, wuldn't

yeah cause only 30 people play on red and the other 10 rmt. /micdrop

[odiecat99]

irony tho

[Jimjam]

Once I logged in to see an enchanter die while pet charming. He seemed to quit while zoning to his bind point.

It was unlucky as I could have rezzed him right there and then (was on my static's cleric). I think he rage quit as he lost all his -mr gear that was on his pet. I carried that stuff around on me for weeks, even after his corpse apparently rotted. Never seen him online again so I gave it to a druid that SoWd me as I figured it would help their charm.

Another time I found a WC cap, fully charged in Sol Ro temple. Waited around for a while, but no one came to collect it so I took it to for my own recharges, mwahahah. Eventually gave my own charged cap away to someone stuck without an escape rope... they kindly gave me an uncharged and 200pp in return which I thought was pretty kind.

I'll try and think of more 'taking theirs, but not theirs' item stories. Jimjam frequently borrows gobo earrings... maybe one day I won't give it back?!

Jimjam is a Halfling. It can't be helped if he has a loose sense or property ;).

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[Swish]

Once I logged in to see an enchanter die while pet charming. He seemed to quit while zoning to his bind point.

It was unlucky as I could have rezzed him right there and then (was on my static's cleric). I think he rage quit as he lost all his -mr gear that was on his pet. I carried that stuff around on me for weeks, even after his corpse apparently rotted. Never seen him online again so I gave it to a druid that SoWd me as I figured it would help their charm.

Another time I found a WC cap, fully charged in Sol Ro temple. Waited around for a while, but no one came to collect it so I took it to for my own recharges, mwahahah. Eventually gave my own charged cap away to someone stuck without an escape rope... they kindly gave me an uncharged and 200pp in return which I thought was pretty kind.

I'll try and think of more 'taking theirs, but not theirs' item stories. Jimjam frequently borrows gobo earrings... maybe one day I won't give it back?!

Jimjam is a Halfling. It can't be helped if he has a loose sense or property ;).

Proof that the spirit of classic EQ isn't dead.. its just a bit harder to find than on live servers of the same time :p

[Danth]

That's because 9 times out of 10, that's exactly what someone does.

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.[1] Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory, or beliefs of conspiracy concerning a perceived threat towards oneself (e.g. "Everyone is out to get me"). Paranoia is distinct from phobias, which also involve irrational fear, but usually no blame. Making false accusations and the general distrust of others also frequently accompany paranoia. For example, an incident most people would view as an accident or coincidence, a paranoid person might believe was intentional.

(italicized comment courtesy of websearch cut-and-paste)

Danth

[Mizard]

Bully

"use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants."

If you get bullied enough, you start fighting back. Confusing this with Paranoia is sad.

[nectarprime]

you're getting bullied so hard right now

[icando5pushups]

Rilex is the biggest cuck frenzy farmer on the server. Thats the only camp he can half handle. I have seen him die to Crystal eyes twice in a row. I have also seen This twat run down to bm, pop 15 traps and cap, making the place unbreakable. Then when he has the camp will use gate the second root breaks, lose the camp, run back down to you with more trap spiders and gate or cap, also seem him calm a group of hunters, then cast allure twice in a row get his stun resisted and two shotted , then directly after, yell at you the camp is his(keep in mind hes 57 and cant hold the camp in the first place) then do his funny little trap trick, fuck this guy. Its super funny Looking at his postS, when hes guilty of everything hes crying about😂😂😂😂😂king of the cucks that boy is🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[Mizard]

you're saltier than a pretzel

[Sarl]

He's full of himself. He's speak about salt when he's the one with the bigest level of sodium in his blood i ever encountered on p99 after GG ofc.

[goldlush]

My boo would _never_ do something like that! *long, deep, passionate chili burp*

[Kedina]

It's funny how many of you are razzing Mizard for getting upset about something that every one of us has had happen. We've all been there and had a similar reaction, some probably worse.

Giving the guy /rude forever? Meh, it IS the best emote in the game IMO.

[Swish]

Warcraft took it to a new low with the /spit emote... you can literally spam that at your opposite faction.

[jarlerop]

So many good times from playing my shaman in velks and running in to Rilex. Always friendly, showing me around the zone and teaching me a few tricks in there.
Trolls on troll accounts trolling you. Don't bite :)
Forbanna

[Swish]

Are any of the leveling guilds looking to break into the raid scene? JaP raiding could be interesting.

[maerilith]

I remember being told to leave Mistimoore repeatedly one night after attempting to pull from inside castle to CE camp several times with massive trains.

I thought people where just mean.

Little did I know it was totally feasible to pull the castle. I was just terrible at the game.

I did eventually learn to pull MM without training. But that didn't happen until years later.

Oh, the memories.