Given the toxicity of the raid scene, there's one important decision to make in 2017

[Swish]

Firstly, there's no firm announcement on a new server so you're left with 2 choices...



http://i.imgur.com/wdjC4Rs.gif



If you picked RED, you could be in for an exciting time of pixel gains in a warm and welcoming community. It'll also make you harder/better/faster/stronger at EverQuest.


If you picked BLUE, well... see you in RNF real soon complaining about overpopulation (which is all the raid scene is really an argument about, and its not going away).






Who'll be the first guild in 2017 to jump? Think about it, no more waiting in line and ring rolls...



http://i.imgur.com/iv9tDgz.jpg


Think about it :cool:

[Teako]

Can we ban you again please? The forums are much better off without braindead morons spamming how awesome Red is every 3 seconds.

Red is trash. The player base is toxic. The entire server needs to be deleted because it's not worth maintaining. Just stop.

[Swish]

Not going to be baited, this is just a thought for people who want to enjoy P99 in a better end game environment. Give it some thought <3

[Detoxx]

Red is terrible. Cant even kill Zlandicar on there lol

[andrewrusher1986]

I'm on red...I refuse to play blue it's over crowded never touched it..but you are right..they are noobs here..they can't even kill Tunare...all they do is jerk off and gank new players to keep the red server their own little elitist community of pricks who talk shit and try to keep the population down. They have no skill...more of the blue need to switch over and teach them a lesson..they aren't hard to pvp they don't know how to actually play the game. You'll easily take over if you do.

[Phenyo]

Firstly, there's no firm announcement on a new server so you're left with 2 choices...



http://i.imgur.com/wdjC4Rs.gif



If you picked RED, you could be in for an exciting time of pixel gains in a warm and welcoming community. It'll also make you harder/better/faster/stronger at EverQuest.


If you picked BLUE, well... see you in RNF real soon complaining about overpopulation (which is all the raid scene is really an argument about, and its not going away).






Who'll be the first guild in 2017 to jump? Think about it, no more waiting in line and ring rolls...



http://i.imgur.com/iv9tDgz.jpg


Think about it :cool:

If we went red we'd end up playing with you and that's a fate worse than death. Reds the containment server, please stop leaking.

[Swish]

Everyone who's ever grouped with me has enjoyed the experience. Also I've never had negative eBay feedback in my life.

[Swish]

Yes I've raided, its sad seeing the state of it in 2017, and sadder still that theres a good alternative out there that isnt regularly considered. I think red needs more love and it'll be a better place for everyone.

Raiding can be fun under the right circumstances :)

[Mead]

have you ever even raided in EQ at all swish? why do you care?

anyone who knows how to enjoy EQ long ago realized the fun is NOT in the raiding

He doesn't currently that's for sure. Any time you ask him for any proof, he isn't able to produce any. He is very much out of touch with anything that is going on. You can tell that all of his experiences and references are from years ago. Just full of shit trying to remain relevant.

[nilzark]

Didn't read - ah fuk who cares

[Swish]

He doesn't currently that's for sure. Any time you ask him for any proof, he isn't able to produce any. He is very much out of touch with anything that is going on. You can tell that all of his experiences and references are from years ago. Just full of shit trying to remain relevant.

Here's a picture of me soloing Gorenaire, happy? (will add to the solo artist thread later)

The things I do to keep the critics off my back. First the medal proving I ran the half marathon, now this, smh.


http://i.imgur.com/KqoV5yf.jpg

[Mead]

Here's a picture of me soloing Gorenaire, happy? (will add to the solo artist thread later)

The things I do to keep the critics off my back. First the medal proving I ran the half marathon, now this, smh.


http://i.imgur.com/KqoV5yf.jpg

My point exactly.

[Ivah]

Red is terrible. Cant even kill Zlandicar on there lol

Red kills Zlandi with rat adds, heard y'all have a hard timer with that

[Teako]

Red kills Zlandi with rat adds, heard y'all have a hard timer with that

Yeah, cause there is no other guild on the server to train your casters with low hp agro on their AFK wizards.

[Swish]

My point exactly.

I think your new year's resolution should be to lighten up, an injection of fun once a day/every day should cure you. Try something new this year <3

[Ivah]

You obviously have no idea what the atmosphere on red is like. Just another Prima Donna forum queen.

[Swish]

sup Ivah, you still got that beard? <3

[burkemi5]

Killing gore in 2017 and claiming you raid... Lol

[Swish]

Killing gore in 2017 and claiming you raid... Lol

Look at all these toxic blue nerds descending. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Free yourselves of people like this.

Also when did Gore become less than a raid target? Just curious, last I checked she was still a raid matter.

[Ivah]

sup Ivah, you still got that beard? <3

Full blown Leonidas atm Bruh

[Porky]

Look at all these toxic blue nerds descending. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Free yourselves of people like this.

Also when did Gore become less than a raid target? Just curious, last I checked she was still a raid matter.

Killed her with 16 in Kunark while being PvP'd...

[Mead]

I think your new year's resolution should be to lighten up, an injection of fun once a day/every day should cure you. Try something new this year <3

Says the guy who has half the posts in a 630 page thread nut hugging bda because they touched your special area without permission.

[punkbythebook12]

You do know red is just bullshit, always monks in ST gear de lvld to beat the shit out of you, what fun is that if u cant play the game to be able to PVP ?

[LostCause]

FULLLLLLLY ST geared LUL

[Swish]

Says the guy who has half the posts in a 630 page thread nut hugging bda because they touched your special area without permission.

You know why they didn't roll on red? They didn't want to get run off a second server :o

Nice safe instanced EQ with guaranteed pixels, it's perfect for the below par guild who can't cut the mustard on a competitive server - glad they're having fun.

...and I'm not denying red server is difficult. Everyone is so used to twinking alts to the teeth, imagine starting from scratch completely? It's not for everyone but the challenge is fun.

Some of the replies people are putting here are interesting, as if they tried red and saw fully ST geared deleveled monks coming to YOUR leveling zone to kill YOU. Put the pipe down you guys lol

[jakerees]

I got on red to have a change and took a character to like 24 or 25. Never had anyone kill/grief me. In fact, often had help from people moving through zones. In fact, I think my guy still has clarity and other buffs on him and is parked in South Karana from the last time I was on there. Don't know what all the horror stories are about, but it is definitely a very empty place...

[wwoneo]

Firstly, there's no firm announcement on a new server so you're left with 2 choices...



http://i.imgur.com/wdjC4Rs.gif



If you picked RED, you could be in for an exciting time of pixel gains in a warm and welcoming community. It'll also make you harder/better/faster/stronger at EverQuest.


If you picked BLUE, well... see you in RNF real soon complaining about overpopulation (which is all the raid scene is really an argument about, and its not going away).






Who'll be the first guild in 2017 to jump? Think about it, no more waiting in line and ring rolls...



http://i.imgur.com/iv9tDgz.jpg


Think about it :cool:

I have a better idea. Join P2002. AA levels, more pop than red, fun raiding, great / non-toxic community with friendly GMs who are always online and actually actively participate in making the server great in any way they can.

[Swish]

I have a better idea. Join P2002. AA levels, more pop than red, fun raiding, great / non-toxic community with friendly GMs who are always online and actually actively participate in making the server great in any way they can.

You can't compare populations with a server that promotes boxing.

If I was rolling on one of those servers I'd go Tak Project. Also you can't say non-toxic with a still salty grocer over there :p

[wwoneo]

You can't compare populations with a server that promotes boxing.

If I was rolling on one of those servers I'd go Tak Project. Also you can't say non-toxic with a still salty grocer over there :p

Lmao. I swear I can't make a single post without someone mentioning GG. I know you were all supposed to be his prom date and he stood you up, but I think it's time to move on. BTW, GG hasn't done anything to me personally. In fact, I saw him in the game the other day. The guy just randomly ran by me in Oasis, said hi, then buffed me and left. Hmmm sounds no different from any other nice player that i've met on P2002. Also, I dont have problems finding groups on that server. I also don't have problems finding camps that I want because its not overflowing with population like P99, especially at the higher levels. The titanium client switch is great.

I hate to say it, but P2002 is pretty much like P99, but in PoP era with a better sized population. There's non-toxic raiding, lots of helpful people with global ooc. OOC is pretty much dedicated to people helping each other figure stuff out and attempts to improve the game. And, active GMs who make themselves available and present all day/night long if you need assistance.

To anyone who's reading, try it out. You'll enjoy it.

[wwoneo]

P.S. I don't want to get into another GG bashing discussion. This is a legit post about the P02 server. I don't like confrontation or drama, so if you do desire continue to bash GG it just stands to show the community who is actually more toxic.

[Swish]

To bash a server when I'm promoting a server would be hypocritical... I think its great that there's enough interest in emulated EQ that dozens of servers can run and people can enjoy them.

Unfortunately the grocer is your biggest reason people here know about p2002, and for many after what happened here with the staff getting doxxed and stuff it's hard to see the server in a positive light (for me at least).

Will TAKP/P02 put up a vanilla/Kunark era pvp server do you think?

[jakerees]

What is this greengrocer stuff that comes up sometimes?

[wwoneo]

To bash a server when I'm promoting a server would be hypocritical... I think its great that there's enough interest in emulated EQ that dozens of servers can run and people can enjoy them.

Unfortunately the grocer is your biggest reason people here know about p2002, and for many after what happened here with the staff getting doxxed and stuff it's hard to see the server in a positive light (for me at least).

Will TAKP/P02 put up a vanilla/Kunark era pvp server do you think?

I like that you're promoting red. I think red server is actually better in some ways than blue. However, I don't think its fair to come to the conclusion that P02 is a bad server because there is a player on that server you don't like. That would also be hypocritical. Are you saying that there is not one single person on p99 that you dislike because if there is then you shouldn't be promoting that server either then.

[Swish]

For me it's a cocktail of reasons. Mainly I never liked boxing on live, thought it watered down the spriit of EQ (co-operation with strangers, grouping, making friends, etc)...to play on a boxing server would take a lot for me to enjoy. Maybe a high pop server could do it.

After that it's little things, yeah I get that it's just 1 player, but first impressions count. Plus hasn't there been some in-fighting between the staff of p02 and TAKP? There was a big thread in off topic here a while back...might have been just players not staff, I wasn't really motivated to read through it all.

For me the P99 banner is a hallmark of quality, so to play on a server without all the raid lawyering is appealing - red just needs more players and some TLC :p

[wwoneo]

by all means play p2002 if you enjoy psychos like greengrocer and copypasted peq content

I will. The server is actually nice. As I stated, GMs are always around and very helpful, the community is hospitable, and the server all around is very much like p99 (except that it goes up to PoP era with AAs and other great features). Also, the entire time I've been there, I haven't heard from anyone bashing on anyone or anything including people saying things such as, "By all means play p2002 if you enjoy psychos like greengrocer and copypasted peq content".

[Teako]

other great features.

Does it come with other great features such as forums? That you could go talk to people who share your interest in the community on?

You know, maybe like a website? That isn't this one? That'd be a great feature for you to recommend, so you'd kindly go the fuck away.

[wwoneo]

Does it come with other great features such as forums? That you could go talk to people who share your interest in the community on?

You know, maybe like a website? That isn't this one? That'd be a great feature for you to recommend, so you'd kindly go the fuck away.

Comments like this is why I've decided to leave. I came here for the p99, I left due to the community. Have fun bud.

[derpcake]

Some of the replies people are putting here are interesting, as if they tried red and saw fully ST geared deleveled monks coming to YOUR leveling zone to kill YOU. Put the pipe down you guys lol

blue players are great at taunting, its unfortunate their defensive skills are not up to par

when TMO proclaimed they would take over the server, they couldn't even field 1 respectable pvp group

of course it was impossible for TMO to actually learn pvp, as they believed they knew everything about EQ from blue, pumice being a waste of bag slots and all that

blues best, thanks for trying anyway

[Phenyo]

just a friendly fyi vulak has been up more then 2 months on red and has probably been killed less then 5 times total since velious launched

a decent guild could come to red and power everyone to 60 in 2 weeks or less and enjoy uncontested raiding with no bullshit and whining

sorry most of you are so afraid of pvp

If there's no competition there's no point. All the pixels in the world wont make the server enjoyable if theres no population.

[Swish]

...and therein lies the purpose of the thread. Embrace the idea of a fresh start on the other P99 server. You can still send messages to each other (encouraging friends to come too etc) across servers <3

[Ravager]

Great, can't even escape Swish when you play on a different server...

[Swish]

Great, can't even escape Swish when you play on a different server...

I knew before I looked at this comment that it would be an angry one. I don't think red is for you Ravager, you'd break a keyboard :(

[Nilstoniakrath]

Sad to say, but Swish is right. Red is better than Blue. Blue raid scene is absolute cr@p.

[Symbioticforks]

I just pulled 10 people off blue this week and they will forever now play on RED99.

-Camps are open
-People are friendly
-Items more abundant


Red has all the nostalgia and pixels of classic everquest, minus the variance and first to engage footrace nonsense that will keep you locked inside your house for years trying to obtain the best items. PvP is essentially additional content / depth that blue just can't provide. It helps you make friends and also enemies to compete with. What do you do on blue to resolve conflict? Stare at each other pointlessly until one of you gets bored and tabs out to watch porn, like seriously.

[jwargod]

I just pulled 10 people off blue this week and they will forever now play on RED99.

-Camps are open
-People are friendly
-Items more abundant


Red has all the nostalgia and pixels of classic everquest, minus the variance and first to engage footrace nonsense that will keep you locked inside your house for years trying to obtain the best items. PvP is essentially additional content / depth that blue just can't provide. It helps you make friends and also enemies to compete with. What do you do on blue to resolve conflict? Stare at each other pointlessly until one of you gets bored and tabs out to watch porn, like seriously.

I tried Red over a year ago and there was some guy who kept camping my groups that happened in EC and Crush. After some persistence/he couldn't stay up all the time, me and others would level and he would come back on another appropiately leveled character to terrorize us.

Then there's all the insane banter in the world chat. and I think the pop hit 400 before the current population today, with even the GMs during a stream saying that one guild has pretty much turned the red server into the private playground and several guides have long since given up on that server.

Then I think there was an earlier attempt at some smaller guild trying to make their place on the server when the top guild decided to kill them en masse whenever they tried something, most notably a fear wipe at one point, all while smileing and doing a "GG guys you were sports about this!"


If you can promise me all that has changed, I might try red.

[Symbioticforks]

I mean the guys I was helping only encountered hostility ONCE, and are all around level 30 now. Simply told them to make friends with everyone, and your enemies will find you. You level faster on Red99, which negates the delays caused by PvP in my mind.

The same guys I brought over were amused by OOC more than anything else. It's not hard to /ignore the very few people you find annoying. Buying and Selling is made much easier on Red99 with global OOC at least.

Not sure what smaller guild you're talking about exactly, as it stands the top raiding guild on RED99 is very friendly - even in pvp - just so long as your guild doesn't employ underhanded tactics to contest content. i.e. training, dispelling mobs with out of range characters, and the like. We don't try to run anyone off, and we make up the majority of the server.

[jwargod]

I mean the guys I was helping only encountered hostility ONCE, and are all around level 30 now. Simply told them to make friends with everyone, and your enemies will find you. You level faster on Red99, which negates the delays caused by PvP in my mind.

The same guys I brought over were amused by OOC more than anything else. It's not hard to /ignore the very few people you find annoying. Buying and Selling is made much easier on Red99 with global OOC at least.

Not sure what smaller guild you're talking about exactly, as it stands the top raiding guild on RED99 is very friendly - even in pvp - just so long as your guild doesn't employ underhanded tactics to contest content. i.e. training, dispelling mobs with out of range characters, and the like. We don't try to run anyone off, and we make up the majority of the server.

Oh fuck off. That's all I needed to hear

[Symbioticforks]

The idea of a top raiding guild gives you a whiskey dick? Hate to break it to ya, but you'll find one of those in almost any MMO.

The other guilds on Red99 do NOT have the leadership / desire / player base / infrastructure in place to put Temple of Veeshan on lockdown. That's not my fault.

I could care less what guild anyone joining from blue decides upon.

If going AFK in EC tunnel half the day selling Spider Silk is your thing though, by all means stay on blue and enjoy yourself.

[Swish]

Went down to the wire on my cleric when he was leveling through Kurn's tower...beat this wizard but not by much.

Was he salty? No
Did I give him shit for trying to beat me? No

The community isn't as bad as the forums might suggest <3

http://i.imgur.com/L1Qcvwh.png

[Cave Troll]

people try blue for a classic experience and the people there are anything but classic

sadly the people are nicer on red and theres much less crying / fighting

red is more classic then blue, try it and see

[Swish]

It's true

[Kushie]

Can we ban you again please? The forums are much better off without braindead morons spamming how awesome Red is every 3 seconds.

Red is trash. The player base is toxic. The entire server needs to be deleted because it's not worth maintaining. Just stop.

[Swish]

Sorry that this thread doesn't meet with your approval. Also that quoted message is full of hypocrisy...Teako in another thread getting toxic about Aftermath's suspension.

I'd love to type more in this message but if I don't quickly post I won't meet my "every 3 seconds" quota :(

[Champion_Standing]

Wish I could rate 6 stars

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/Ejstsdl.png

[booter]

2nd panel should say "the raid scene doesn't exist" though!

[Swish]

2nd panel should say "the raid scene doesn't exist" though!

If you looked into it you'd see that there is a raid scene, I wouldn't want to post inaccuracies.

[Kushie]

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