EverMQuest

[Shaun]

Before i Start: Nite this is a Rant of my frustration, And no Matter what i rant about i Do-not see it being game breaking or changing,

Troll if you like what ever ....

I played 16 years ago and played the game, never did i MQ: a dam thing, maybe because back then there was so much more content.. or so much little mini bos's so contested ... i had a different gaming "everguest" experiencing then i am having her now.

i Personally Hate mq's i think it defeats the game. and cusses a lot of problems we are seeing to day with the top guild able to camp these kills with less the numbers one would need... with there gear they have from the upper game and are now unseeing this gear advantage to 5-3 man things others would need full groups to do , as well as well as blocking the lower guilds and lower lvled players from doing there quest and forced to buy the things from them or go some times year before getting a quest done they would love to finish.

i refer to this game now as EverMQuest:

thats what it has come to MQ: i see is an Exploit . should have been fixed on live should be fixed Here.. :mad: on the grounds as a Exploit..

if MQ's where fixed here on Classic i see less BS we are having now with ... and less work load on the GM's just a thought @GM's

but who am i . just an old bastard who like's to play games as intended ... with out the bullshit

but what ever that was my rant i had to get off my chest

[Kaight]

Before I start, this is a rant of my frustration, and no matter what I rant about, I do not see it being game breaking or changing. Troll if you like. Whatever.

I played 16 years ago and when I did, I never multiquested a damn thing. Maybe because back then there was so much more content, or so many little mini bosses not as contested. I had a different gaming experience than I am having now.

I personally hate multiquesting. I think it defeats the purpose of the game. It's the cause of a lot of problems we see today with the top guilds being able to camp these kills with less numbers than it should take, because of their gear they have from the end game. They are able to 3-man things that should take a full group. They block lower guilds and lower level players from doing a quest and are thus forced to buy things from them, or wait forever before completing a quest.

This is why I refer to the game as EverMQuest.

That's what it has come to. I see MQing as an exploit. It should have been fixed on live and should be fixed here, on the grounds that it is an exploit.

If the MQ's were fixed here on p99, I think there'd be less bullshit than we are having now and less work for the GM's (just a thought for you, GM's.)

But who am I? Just an old bastard who likes to play games as intended, without the bullshit.

But whatever. That was my rant. I had to get it off my chest.

[LostCause]

gotta say it but



































































































SHITS CLASSIC

[Shaun]

what Kaight said sorry my spelling sucks and grammar sucks

[Cecily]

MQs let people complete quests from content they'd likely never. I don't know about you, but I've never heard a Phinny kill group say they're looking for a rogue. On live, my Robe of the Kedge was MQed to me for my Ragebringer. On live, my Drusella / Trak pieces were MQed to me for my Spirit Wracked Cord. Both MQs were free of charge and from content I never did and never would have done.

Here, MQs play a vital part of our economy. It's something valuable that will sell, unlike perhaps Thick Banded Belt #15607. MQs allow raiding guilds to defer a loot decision instead of having to award a high end epic drop on the spot. And above all else, they give bored level 60 players something to do on a server that allows no alternate advancement. It's good thing they exist and you'd realize real quick how much things would suck without that option, key word option, being on the table.

[Daldaen]

It's classic but... Honestly, why do people think this is an exploit? Quests where you're intended to kill dragons and bring back scales, why would the quest NPC care if one Rogue turns in all the quest pieces or the Rogue returns with his Ranger friend and they each hand the quest NPC an item.

The NPC surely knows you aren't soloing these dragons, and you had help to slay them. Why does it matter that the items they requested come from two different individuals, so long as they receive everything they requested. It makes logical sense for MQing to work.

[entruil]

law of unnintendo'd console quizzes...

glad i read more than none... will save the RTS for another day

[Lulz|Sect]

i am on deadline too busy to respond to this thread

got it

[t3kn34k]

Let me know when you want your cleric epic ;)

[maskedmelon]

MQs were fixed. They were added, because they are classic, whether good or not. That is why we have them now ^^

[mickmoranis]

heres what I suggest, start your own classic server and do whatever the fuck you think is classic

then nilbog can play for free for years and post angry face shit on your forums

[Lammy]

Such a cpmpelling rant that I changed my stance on MQs. I like them now.

[paroxysmal]

Braknar vs Sgtmorris in chardok the other night
https://imgur.com/McyKVEY

[Shaun]

http://global3.memecdn.com/kiss-my-ass_o_1334899.jpg
qANI TO bRAKNAR

[Shaun]

but this nothing to do about that shit qani

[Woest]

OP should end it all

[Gumbo]

Why does the OP make it sound like everything in the game is MQ'ed?

I know epics can be MQ'ed and the JBoots can be MQ'ed but what else can be MQ'ed that people actually MQ?

[t3kn34k]

Why does the OP make it sound like everything in the game is MQ'ed?

I know epics can be MQ'ed and the JBoots can be MQ'ed but what else can be MQ'ed that people actually MQ?

Serious reply, these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head that are not Jboot or Epic.

Chardok goodies (coming soon)
VP keys
BFGs
Literally Every Velious Faction Armor Quest Ever
Ring War quest (multiple parts)
DOZEKAR?! yes.
SOULFIRES $$$

bunch of random other stuff too, I'm sure. I agree, however that it is a necessary evil, and also a classic one.

[TheDuck]

i think what he's getting at is, MQ's while classic, allows the RMTers to farm and sell the items to him for plat instead of getting a fair shot on it like on live.


during live, RMTers had multiple servers to share. you come to blue and there is an RMTer camping every important spot cock blocking. its not a joke its real lol i tried playing here. im not even joking go to orc 1 in WC and you will find a lvl 60 druid selling invites to the group. and they never leave. so i have to pick, grind on snakes that are anoying and non static spawns or somehow come up with 5k at lvl 8 to pay the guy.


This is like repeated every step of the way on this server its horrible experience. lol. but i do applaud the project creators its as close to classic as its going to get without a huge CS staff.

[TheDuck]

servers to old, its stale, its allowed a top heavy RMT economy to totally monopolize the entire server. i remember when it was just the important things like jboots you had to "pay plat for", quil cloaks, and fungi's and COF's and shit.

Now it is paying to join an exp group.

[Computer Man]

Joining the king group bro? You gotta pay to play

[TheDuck]

remember the good ole days when the only pay to play group was chardok? ever since the AE nerf EVERY single decent camp is now monopolized by pay to play. its seriously out of hand. and they are playing by the play nice policy. so the guides hands are tied. And there are simply to many people doing it for anyone with any real power to get around to it.

so thats what we got, make the best of it.

[Computer Man]

remember the good ole days when the only pay to play group was chardok? ever since the AE nerf EVERY single decent camp is now monopolized by pay to play. its seriously out of hand. and they are playing by the play nice policy. so the guides hands are tied. And there are simply to many people doing it for anyone with any real power to get around to it.

so thats what we got, make the best of it.

Amen, people gotta be the change they want to see in the world (of Norrath)

[Gumbo]

Serious reply, these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head that are not Jboot or Epic.

Chardok goodies (coming soon)
VP keys
BFGs
Literally Every Velious Faction Armor Quest Ever
Ring War quest (multiple parts)
DOZEKAR?! yes.
SOULFIRES $$$

bunch of random other stuff too, I'm sure. I agree, however that it is a necessary evil, and also a classic one.

Besides the Chardok, until it got changed, I never seen any of these being offered as MQ.

[Teako]

Besides the Chardok, until it got changed, I never seen any of these being offered as MQ.

Glowing Hilt mq is often available.

Trak Tooth MQs for your guild VP keys

Ring 7 MQ in tunnel every night 10-12k

HoT mini orbs are usually looted and MQ'd to people who win tears

Vel armor MQs are sold by the thousands every day


What sucking ferver do you play on?

[Gumbo]

Glowing Hilt mq is often available.

Trak Tooth MQs for your guild VP keys

Ring 7 MQ in tunnel every night 10-12k

HoT mini orbs are usually looted and MQ'd to people who win tears

Vel armor MQs are sold by the thousands every day


What sucking ferver do you play on?

Goes to show how much I pay attention to items being MQ'ed. Only MQ I mainly see in the tunnel are for JBoots.

[Maner]

i think what he's getting at is, MQ's while classic, allows the RMTers to farm and sell the items to him for plat instead of getting a fair shot on it like on live.


during live, RMTers had multiple servers to share. you come to blue and there is an RMTer camping every important spot cock blocking. its not a joke its real lol i tried playing here. im not even joking go to orc 1 in WC and you will find a lvl 60 druid selling invites to the group. and they never leave. so i have to pick, grind on snakes that are anoying and non static spawns or somehow come up with 5k at lvl 8 to pay the guy.


This is like repeated every step of the way on this server its horrible experience. lol. but i do applaud the project creators its as close to classic as its going to get without a huge CS staff.

Orc 1 is in EC you are full of shit and dismissed

[Maner]

Before i Start: Nite this is a Rant of my frustration, And no Matter what i rant about i Do-not see it being game breaking or changing,

Troll if you like what ever ....

I played 16 years ago and played the game, never did i MQ: a dam thing, maybe because back then there was so much more content.. or so much little mini bos's so contested ... i had a different gaming "everguest" experiencing then i am having her now.

i Personally Hate mq's i think it defeats the game. and cusses a lot of problems we are seeing to day with the top guild able to camp these kills with less the numbers one would need... with there gear they have from the upper game and are now unseeing this gear advantage to 5-3 man things others would need full groups to do , as well as well as blocking the lower guilds and lower lvled players from doing there quest and forced to buy the things from them or go some times year before getting a quest done they would love to finish.

i refer to this game now as EverMQuest:

thats what it has come to MQ: i see is an Exploit . should have been fixed on live should be fixed Here.. :mad: on the grounds as a Exploit..

if MQ's where fixed here on Classic i see less BS we are having now with ... and less work load on the GM's just a thought @GM's

but who am i . just an old bastard who like's to play games as intended ... with out the bullshit

but what ever that was my rant i had to get off my chest

Why do all these idiots think it has anything to do with the gear they have? Maybe they are just better at the game and playing smarter than you. Judging by this post, that wouldn't be hard to do.

[Whirled]

So, today I finished the reports, printed them out, and handed them to another worker. The other worker gave them to the boss. I did this before hailing the boss. Another worker got credit for my hand in. MQ's don't work all the time. Next time I'm just gonna camp the bosses office better.

[paulgiamatti]

It's classic but... Honestly, why do people think this is an exploit? Quests where you're intended to kill dragons and bring back scales, why would the quest NPC care if one Rogue turns in all the quest pieces or the Rogue returns with his Ranger friend and they each hand the quest NPC an item.

The NPC surely knows you aren't soloing these dragons, and you had help to slay them. Why does it matter that the items they requested come from two different individuals, so long as they receive everything they requested. It makes logical sense for MQing to work.

No it doesn't. It makes absolutely no logical sense that both parties need appropriate faction in many cases - if multiquesting was intended, only the receiving party would need to be factioned. It makes absolutely no logical sense that when quest items are given in the wrong order, the wrong person will receive the item regardless of whether they can even use it. It makes absolutely no logical sense that there isn't a single quest in the game featuring dialogue that reflects or even references the possibility of multiple parties turning in items for a single quest.

I would bet my life that you could ask Brad McQuaid if multiquesting was intentional and he would confirm it wasn't. Whether they intentionally left it in the game after they realized their oversight is a completely different question, but I'd still argue the case that they didn't purposefully ignore it.

MQs were fixed. They were added, because they are classic, whether good or not. That is why we have them now ^^

Correct. But so other people don't get confused - and judging by the OP it seems like this is a troubling given - this is only true on P99. Multiquesting was never consciously added to the original game in any way, even during its original conception. It was simply an oversight in development that may or may not have been ignored, and if it was then that may or may not have been intentional.

I love multiquesting. For reasons already elucidated it makes the game better in countless ways - it is a happy, useful mistake.

[brasoff]

Not really. When you say 'this server' which one do you mean? red? blue? beta?

Personally on blue 99 I started with nothing a week ago and now i'm almost a 30 warrior, I approached it with the self-perception I was going to enjoy the game and have fun regardless of other people and their actions or opinions. When you're able to handle any situation with a certain level of awareness it doesn't really matter if people are RMT'ing MQ'ing within the game. I had people openly offer to sell me plat so I could buy gear and refused. You don't let it effect You.

[Priceline]

I was going to enjoy the game and have fun regardless of other people and their actions or opinions.

https://i.imgur.com/dhMeAzK.gif

[BrianK0220]

With pay to play the server will eventually die, also classic.

[Sirban]

Didnt read. pls post tldr version

[maskedmelon]

Feign death wasn't intended as a splitting mechanic either, but people did it. Gnomes were not intended to see through walls, but they did. Dropped items weren't intended to function as compasses, but they did. Lots of things that the developers never intended to happen ^^, but they are classic.

The real issue though is that the idea of "No Drop" items is just plain ridiculous. It's a mechanic akin to instancing that descocializes aspects of the game by forcing players out of an immersive world and into a linear story with pre-determined outcomes.

[maskedmelon]

Didnt read. pls post tldr version

Here's an audio excerpt that should help sum it up:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds

[paulgiamatti]

i think what he's getting at is, MQ's while classic, allows the RMTers to farm and sell the items to him for plat instead of getting a fair shot on it like on live.


during live, RMTers had multiple servers to share. you come to blue and there is an RMTer camping every important spot cock blocking. its not a joke its real lol i tried playing here. im not even joking go to orc 1 in WC and you will find a lvl 60 druid selling invites to the group. and they never leave. so i have to pick, grind on snakes that are anoying and non static spawns or somehow come up with 5k at lvl 8 to pay the guy.


This is like repeated every step of the way on this server its horrible experience. lol. but i do applaud the project creators its as close to classic as its going to get without a huge CS staff.

servers to old, its stale, its allowed a top heavy RMT economy to totally monopolize the entire server. i remember when it was just the important things like jboots you had to "pay plat for", quil cloaks, and fungi's and COF's and shit.

Now it is paying to join an exp group.

remember the good ole days when the only pay to play group was chardok? ever since the AE nerf EVERY single decent camp is now monopolized by pay to play. its seriously out of hand. and they are playing by the play nice policy. so the guides hands are tied. And there are simply to many people doing it for anyone with any real power to get around to it.

so thats what we got, make the best of it.

Also just wanted to point out that none of this is even remotely true. This is more than likely a case of a sour, disgruntled player who developed some personal beef with the server and now seeks retribution in the form of hugely exaggerated if not completely fabricated posts. The few remaining rogue RMTers have a completely negligible impact the server. You don't have to pay anyone anything to get a group at orc 1. The game is still more or less exactly how it's always been: top-heavy, but there's always something to do with loot and experience to be gained at every level. Anyone who tells you otherwise either isn't challenging himself or is simply bullshitting you about the state of the server for petty, vindictive reasons.

[paulgiamatti]

Also, this thread has a remarkably good title despite the illegible post. It's amazing that he was able to correctly type "EverMQuest", proper capitalization and all, and then proceed to projectile vomit all over the keyboard.